Ethan Klein / h3h3Productions - Opportunistic, two-faced e-celeb sperg with a penchant for hypocrisy and an Oedipus complex; sold out to Susan Wojcicki, the incompetent CEO of YouTube

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Who would win in a fight?

  • Ethan Klein

    Votes: 291 3.9%
  • Sam Hyde

    Votes: 7,174 96.1%

  • Total voters
    7,465
Archiving entire videos is "making transformative works"? Are you retarded? It's LITERALLY exactly what he's suing these people for
You missed the words before that which were "for the purpose of criticism" (which includes commentary)
 
Frogan has no thread but according to the lawsuit, her name is "Morgan Kamal Majed". Frogan's Twitch bio claims that she's a "public health expert / advocate by day", and for fucking AGES I have wanted to fact-check that.
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Doing a cursory Google search for Morgan Majed / Morgan K Majed brings up a bunch of stuff:
She's from Dearborn, Michigan (because of course she is), home to one of America's biggest arab populations who collectively voted for Trump in 2024 after having voted for Biden in 2020 because of the conflict in Palestine.
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Her mom is a nurse who was unfortunately diagnosed with Stage 2 Breast cancer, so she and her club (great CV boosters for undergrads) did a thing where they made little gift baskets to encourage people starting chemo.

She's a graduate with a Masters of Science in Public Health from Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and was part of the executive board of the Women in Medicine club.
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She did her ungrad studies at Wayne State University School of Medicine.
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She helped publish a research paper about womens' reproductive health in the Middle East:

This is her thesis:

This was her original Twitter account (she's been hijabi larping for years despite being an atheist):
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She likes her men as white as freshly fallen snow, seeing as she seems to have been a fangirl of/met every single white teeny bopper boy band musician from the 2010s.
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Her ravenous open lust for white men is something that has still stayed with her even into adulthood. If you're a white male and are looking for your own equivalent to Chantal, here's a pretty "good" option.

Even though my look-through was pretty shallow, she does have the academic credentials to be a "public health expert" but I see none of that "advocacy" in her current life now. She chose to become a Twitch politics streamer instead of finding employment in the field of public health to actually help people and make a difference.

After spending 6 years in college building up a resume focused on the health and wellbeing of Arab/muslim women, all that it has amounted to is virtue signaling and whining about people's plight in besieged places like Palestine on Twitter and Twitch rather than doing any actual work. Pretty fucking shameful.
 
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Don't make me cheer for the jew. I don't give a fuck about any of the girls he's suing; but a feeling I have, something from long ago that I almost forgotten, wants to see Kaceytron suffer. She didn't do anything specific to me, I just never cared for her schtick and how reddit-tier her and her defenders were; about how she's subverting and all that other fart-huffing high IQ shit. She fell off and had the chance to disappear, but because she's a retarded e-whore, she had to jump on the attention bus and is finally getting what she deserves. Fucking suffer whore.
 
What will last longer?

The Iron Dome or this lawsuit?
I think Ethan has the bank to make this last as long as he wants. I found it funny he could only bare to burn a single $1 bill while flexing a gold Petek Philippe watch.
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I don't agree with his politics at all but the dude is a master alog when he has a good target. It makes for a good show.

he only begged hasan to watch the video daily for like 5 months
Ya and he never bit. Turkroach W.
 
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You missed the words before that which were "for the purpose of criticism" (which includes commentary)
Yah but does the standard for Fair Use clarify where the criticism has to be inserted? Going back to the TV show analogy, if some youtuber just played the full episode of a show to Youtube, and then had all of his interjections and criticisms of the show in text form in the description of the video, would that rise to fair use? That's pretty much what uploading an archive of paywalled content in full and embedding it into a post where a poster outlines timestamps and criticisms here is.
 
I'd agree if that was the precedent set, but aren't you being a little naive here thinking it's going to be that surgical and measured? Sure, fuck the E-girls, I'm not here to defend them, but the implications of this have potential to be much broader than them, and I think you're being a little obtuse to pretend that possibility isn't there just because Ethan is going after people you personally dislike.
Not really. Because I actually read the complaints and know something about law. If he wins a motion to dismiss it will be on the basis of what's in his complaints, which will be taken as true as a matter of law. (And I don't see any potential further evidence that could be added for summary judgment, which would lean in his favor as a matter of law anyways.) And what's in his complaints are allegations that Frogan and Denims hosted group watch parties without engaging in any transformation, and explicitly said and acknowledged they were doing so to take away views from the main video. He includes tables of all the time periods of the video in which they are silent or only say incomprehensible grunts.

I don't know what's "naive" about that. Try reading the complaints.
 
I like whenever something like this comes up, it twists up the kikesperging A&Niggers into pretzels because of how much they just can't stand the heckin kikerinos. To any A&Nigger: what Ethan is doing is funny, that's why people are laughing at it or ironically cheering him on. It's really that simple.
As if everbody jerking him off right now aren't the thread tourists.
 
Yah but does the standard for Fair Use clarify where the criticism has to be inserted? Going back to the TV show analogy, if some youtuber just played the full episode of a show to Youtube, and then had all of his interjections and criticisms of the show in text form in the description of the video, would that rise to fair use? That's pretty much what uploading an archive of paywalled content in full and embedding it into a post where a poster outlines timestamps and criticisms here is.
There's an entire scale in the law which depends upon how much it detracts from competing against the original work and some other shit. So uploading an entire star wars movie and just writing under it "it sucks" probably wouldn't qualify. Whereas just a collection of clips might. But I don't think the fair use standard says whether it has to be in the same medium - like you could write a blog post which includes video clips and critical/commentary text under each clip.

And if the work is only 30 seconds long then its kind of unavoidable to clip the entire thing.

The point is there is no clear cut, black/white rule, its supposed to go to court if the DMCA doesn't get honored but the DMCA is just a tool to get shit removed on the internet. There's other forms of lawsuits that are relevant.
 
The reaction shit has always been a house of cards that would never hold up in court anyways. I don't see how anyone could argue in good faith that what shitters like Asmongold does is transformative.
Asmon's a grifter too but he's smart enough to not do chair reacts. He occasionally pauses the video and actually speaks.
 
What a pussy. He should be going after twitch and instead targeted small fry.
Only morons file lawsuits that they actually want to. If he's going with a surgical, precision and elongated strike like Israel does on malnourished children then he'd explore a few angles and pass them by a legal team and see which ones are likely to actually succeed.
 
There's an entire scale in the law which depends upon how much it detracts from competing against the original work and some other shit. So uploading an entire star wars movie and just writing under it "it sucks" probably wouldn't qualify. Whereas just a collection of clips might. But I don't think the fair use standard says whether it has to be in the same medium - like you could write a blog post which includes video clips and critical/commentary text under each clip.

And if the work is only 30 seconds long then its kind of unavoidable to clip the entire thing.

The point is there is no clear cut, black/white rule, its supposed to go to court if the DMCA doesn't get honored but the DMCA is just a tool to get shit removed on the internet. There's other forms of lawsuits that are relevant.
Interesting, I think there's an argument to be made that archival copies of cows paywalled content posted on here for others to laugh at might reach the standard of serving as a replacement, but like I said I'll shut up about it lest it causes problems Josh doesn't need.
 
Ethan is 100% right about the react content abuse on Twitch. If Disney or another major corporation sees that these people do this on Twitch with no repercussions, Jeff Bezos won't like it if his platform gets sued for copyright infringement and heads will fall.
It's crazy how certain behaviors are allowed on Twitch only if the streamers are part of the Hasan circle.

I was very much surprised that he's gonna go after fucking Kaceytron of all people. I didn't even know she was still around, does she still suck ass at League of Legends?
She's fat, smokes weed on camera and calls everybody an incel. That's the absolute state of this woman in 2025.
 
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