Ethan Klein / h3h3Productions - Opportunistic, two-faced e-celeb sperg with a penchant for hypocrisy and an Oedipus complex; sold out to Susan Wojcicki, the incompetent CEO of YouTube

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Who would win in a fight?

  • Ethan Klein

    Votes: 291 3.9%
  • Sam Hyde

    Votes: 7,172 96.1%

  • Total voters
    7,463
People in this thread pearl clutching over "Oh Kiwifarms is pro-copyright!" lmao
The internet is a circus, taking anything seriously on here is fucking moronic. Ethan is the new ringleader and I'm enjoying sitting back for my show
I feel like a lot of people assume that 100% of Kiwi Farmers views always line up exactly with whatever Null's views are.

I can simoltaniously hold the idea that I don't think you should be able to take someone else's work, slap your name on it, and resell it as your own while also thinking the entire DMCA needs to be completely dismantled and reworked and acknowledge that the current copy right system is absolutely designed and maintained to fuck people over while creating an environment to nickle and dime everyone to death.

Its pretty clear from watching Ethan's video that the three getting sued were intentionally restreaming Kliens work in order to specifically cost him revenue and views. There should be some laws or rules that prevent people from maliciously taking something you put time and effort into making and then stealing it in order to specifically prevent you from getting money, and yes I am aware you "can't steal a video on youtube." but we all know you can release content in such a way as to fuck someone in the algorthym and minimize the views they get which is as close to stealing as you can reasonably get in the video creation game.
 
Just post a Destiny manifesto into the court's docket that doesn't even state a claim properly and the other party will be forced to spend thousands just to handle it and it might take months if not a year or more for them to get the restitution for the damage the frivolous suit caused, if they can get back anything at all.
It's their own dumb bitch fault for not being a True & Honest Kiwi Farmer and not learning the ancient art of pro se Greer Fu.

I feel like a lot of people assume that 100% of Kiwi Farmers views always line up exactly with whatever Null's views are.
This is why I recommend calling him directly and telling Josh just how much you disagree with him.
 
People in this thread pearl clutching over "Oh Kiwifarms is pro-copyright!" lmao
The internet is a circus, taking anything seriously on here is fucking moronic. Ethan is the new ringleader and I'm enjoying sitting back for my show
I ❤️ International Copyright Law and I ❤️ the nation of Israel.
 
Will, I just look up if H3H3 register this as a copy right under the government domain. It look like he register Content Nuke Hasan Piker a few days before the video publish. He also register 2 other video to the library of congress.
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It’s hard for me to buy into the “this will destroy all free use!” Doomers. I would maybe agree if he cast a huge net and also went after people like XQC and Asmongold.

But, the bar he’s established here is extremely high. He is exclusively targeting people that pretty explicitly said “come watch me watch this video so you won’t give H3 views and ad revenue.” You have to be extremely stupid to do this, even XQC is smarter. He’ll spin slots while playing brainrot to keep his ADHD child fanbase mentally stimulated, but he would never admit a malicious intent to deprive the creator of ad revenue.

Like imagine if someone went live on twitch and streamed the entire newest Star Wars movie, beginning and ending the stream with “thanks for watching with me so you aren’t giving Disney any money.” Everyone would expect Disney to immediately unleash their lawyers to assfuck that streamer and they would be permanently banned from Twitch. Everyone already knows this is what would happen, that person already passed the generally understood line of what is currently considered acceptable.

Maybe I don’t know enough about the legal system, but the precedent this lawsuit would set seems to be “don’t be a retard and openly admit you are view sharking with a malicious intent.”
 
People giving Ethan a hard time wasting his money and the court's time with gay lawsuits when that's exactly what you want wealthy jews to be doing.

If they get bored and start going to temple, they're just gonna get all hyped up on jewish supremacy and donate to AIPAC instead. MANY such cases!
 
Denims doesn't just react to the video, she makes political arguments.... which the lawsuit itself tries to debate... proving it's transformative.
That's probably the weakest part of the lawsuit, aside from the 9 pages outlining the Content Nuke for no reason. I expect that to be stricken as irrelevant. But commentary is only 1 factor in fair use analysis, the rest of it goes extremely strongly against Denims.

If you had bothered reading the suit (or any other copyright suit), you might have noticed fair use isn't a binary state, there's four factors that need to be considered:
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Providing commentary alone is not enough to show fair use. It has to be relevant to the "substance or style" of the copied work, and again that's not a binary, it's a sliding factor. You're saying Denims' commentary clears the bar, Klein's lawyers argue it doesn't. The court will make the determination, but it almost doesn't matter, because the other factors are a slam dunk win for Ethan.

Denims, being the vapid retard that she is, explicitly said she was doing it so her viewers don't support Klein through views or ad revenue. She did it on her own stream, which was fully monetized and advertised ways to give her money. That's basically an automatic strike against her because her "use is of a commercial nature".

Factor #3 is a slam dunk for Ethan as well. She intentionally watched the entire Nuke in sequence, no clips or extracts. That weighs against any fair use argument she could make in other factors.

Factor #4 would normally be hard to prove... except that there is a visible, measurable bump in Denims' stream numbers. They are clearly there to avoid watching the source video.

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Keep in mind that these 4 factors are not co-equal. #2 is less important, #3 affects the analysis of #1, and #4 is usually considered "the most important element of fair use" because it cuts to the heart of whether monetary value is actually being stolen.

So Klein could lose entirely on the question of whether Denims provided "enough commentary" to satisfy that factor, but is likely to still win overall because the other factors weigh so heavily in his favor.

Has Ethan ever asked them to stop reacting to his videos? No! I'm pretty sure he spent months demanding Hasan to watch his video on his stream.
Yeah, and now he is not suing Hasan, arguably the streamer he should hate the most. Hasan did the bare minimum needed for actual fair use, Denims did not. Did you even read the thread?

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So it's a very weird thing to twist this into "you're stealing from me without my permission!!!", disingenuous at best, most likely malicious.
I don't know if you're an Ethan a-log or a Denims simp, but one thing you aren't is someone with even a layman's understanding of the laws at question here. Ethan put out a video like normal, Denims stole content like normal, the only shocker is the Jew wants to spend his own money slapping her for it. Consequences following actions is not malicious.

And before you make some other accusation, I'm not a fan of copyright generally. But I hate the lazy ass reaction streamers more. xQc, Asmongold, Denims, Hasan, they're all worthless leeches who deserve to get slapped for being leeches. I don't care if it's a Jew or a Gentile doing it.

"But this will make copyright stronger!" It's already crushingly strong, have you not been paying attention? It already crushes the small guys trying to do real commentary, it's not going to be fixed by allowing the unrepentant leeches to continue. Klein has found one of the rare legitimate applications of current copyright law, and I hope he does accelerate things into destroying the lazy streamer ecosystem.
 
This is why I recommend calling him directly and telling Josh just how much you disagree with him.
I recognize a pointless endeavor when I see it my friend. Josh is nothing if not the essence of not giving a fuck about what other people think about him or his takes, which I actually really respect.
 
but we all know you can release content in such a way as to fuck someone in the algorthym and minimize the views they get which is as close to stealing as you can reasonably get in the video creation game.
I dont think that's even true or at least its incredibly hard to prove, that's the kind of cope people say when their video doesn't perform well.

I cant even name one incident where I've seen this happen that wasn't a blatant excuse to shield themselves from criticism.
 
The people that watch these breadtubers have to be going broke with all the legal defenses they have to crowdfund for them and charities they have to donate to to give Hasan clout.
 
Its pretty clear from watching Ethan's video that the three getting sued were intentionally restreaming Kliens work in order to specifically cost him revenue and views. There should be some laws or rules that prevent people from maliciously taking something you put time and effort into making and then stealing it in order to specifically prevent you from getting money, and yes I am aware you "can't steal a video on youtube." but we all know you can release content in such a way as to fuck someone in the algorthym and minimize the views they get which is as close to stealing as you can reasonably get in the video creation game.
Thanks so much for explaining it like that. Ethan is such a pathetic sperg that he often can't make a coherent argument, even when discussing legal matters. Then when you add the rat's history of false DMCA claims and other stuff, I figured it was just another lolsuit because he's angry that that Hila wanted to peg him while he dresses as a Palestinian boy.

This case may actually have merit.
 

I'm Suing These Three Creators​

(06/19/25)
Original:
Preserve Tube: https://preservetube.com/watch?v=3yAiuEyJF-I
Fuck yes! I'm so sick of react slop content and it's nice to see someone finally sue over it. It would have been nice if he went after Asmongold and xQC but I get why he went after them specifically. Hopefully this sets a persistent and we can be rid of "Chair Reacts" and have a little less slop on the internet.
With Jews, you win!
 
A gentle reminder to all of the kiwis fellating Ethan "Jewish" Klein, that the jewish people have produced some of the greatest monsters of our time. If you can bother to post in this thread, you have time to assist in the crusade against the real jewish threats; unrepentant fiends, such as George Soros, and Joshua Tomar.
 
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