Facebook post, 27 September: Megan.

[Holdek]

About 8 years ago, when I started University, I met a guy in Fresher's week from across the hall. We shared a love of soccer and drinking. But the one thing that tickled me about him in the early days was that he refused to get an eBay account and always used mine. Part of that reason now that I think about it was that he didn't bring a laptop to uni, so he'd come round mine and use my eBay account, whilst we drank or donged around on Goldeneye. He always paid me back, and I guess it was one of many things that made us friends. Now, 8 years later, we're still best friends.

The point is it maybe wasn't that strange for Megan to 'use' Chris like this, they helped each other and shared a little social interaction. A strange one maybe, but not unique.

The distinction I would make is that Megan continued this eBay stuff after she had complained about him being a perv.

Megan didn't even have a boyfriend, as far as we know. It was never mentioned in the Lucas and Mimms Q&A. She did, however, sit on the lap of her gay friend. Even if she did have a BF, she doesn't seen to be the type to be smoochin' in a card shop in front of little kids and their parents.

Chris would call it "making out" if he saw her give a guy so much as an innocent peck on the cheek.

"In other words, GET A ROOM."

I'm really late to the party, so someone has probably brought this up. Still, I had to comment, as this jumped out at me right away:

Chris complains about Mimms and Lucas (?) "taking his picture without permission" after he draws himself fingering Megan and spreads it across the internet for everyone to see.

I don't think he's in any position to complain about pictures ruining someone's reputation...

"This was AFTER her hateful trolling!" ( )

 

[Lady Houligan]

About 8 years ago, when I started University, I met a guy in Fresher's week from across the hall. We shared a love of soccer and drinking. But the one thing that tickled me about him in the early days was that he refused to get an eBay account and always used mine. Part of that reason now that I think about it was that he didn't bring a laptop to uni, so he'd come round mine and use my eBay account, whilst we drank or donged around on Goldeneye. He always paid me back, and I guess it was one of many things that made us friends. Now, 8 years later, we're still best friends.

The point is it maybe wasn't that strange for Megan to 'use' Chris like this, they helped each other and shared a little social interaction. A strange one maybe, but not unique.

The distinction I would make is that Megan continued this eBay stuff after she had complained about him being a perv.

I don't know that it was so much that she was complaining. Remember, her brother has some mental issues, so she would be used to dealing with someone who doesn't understand a request the first time. So she was probably trying to reinforce her boundaries to him. It's not like she was still asking him to make eBay purchases after getting pissed at him for shecameforcwc...

 

[Holdek]

Yes. He also kissed Kacey on the cheek and she got an infection from an allergic reaction that was quite painful for her.

Jeez! I didn't realize that . . . he kissed her on the cheek, and she got an infection? Wow, that says a lot about Chris's hygiene right there.

Now think about the poor Hooker and what she may have gone through.

Occupational hazard. Plus bent .

 

[CatParty]

^^ I can imagine the booker being the one taking a "Crying Game" shower.

 

[Holdek]

Well age is playing a part here too, but, when he was younger he looked like he was encased in grease, now he seems to bath more regulary because of tomgirlism.

I don't think Meg was even really 'using' him, either. She asked him to get some stuff for her on eBay but wasn't she always willing to pay him back, essentially just needing him to make the online transaction?

Nah, she was using him, and was leading him on too.

The point is that drawing porn of her and uploading it was completely disproportionate in terms of damage.

And the stuff about her conspiring with Mimms, Lucas, and Snyder is insane.

but how much was she leading him on? wasn't she just being nice to him because of her experiences with her brother?

IDK, I think she knew Chris liked her more than platonically. He was doing favors for her, buying her shit on eBay, and the way he talks to her in in his e-mails it seems pretty obvious.

 

[Globe]

^I'm of the opinion that Chris' "cleanliness" when PCA saw him was just a fluke. IIRC the majority of field agent accounts say he's pretty gross.

 

[A-№1]

Talking garbage about someone behind their back, online or not, is free speech.

Not if it's written, about a private person, untrue, and malicious. Which is all exactly what Chris is doing.

Libel is not free speech and is not protected.

 

[MetroidJunkie]

Not if it's written, about a private person, untrue, and malicious. Which is all exactly what Chris is doing.

Libel is not free speech and is not protected.

If that were true, social networking sites would be full of people vulnerable to arrest/lawsuit.

 

[Cwckifan]

Literally; I really liked her pretty face and cute bod. But she turned out to be a totally unappreciative bitch.

He whines and whines and whines about unrequited loyalty and being manipulated and all this is other shit, then caps it off by acknowledging that his interest in her was purely shallow and superficial. But still, he somehow wants to be angry at her for not "appreciating" that.

Honestly, every new rant Chris puts on facebook makes it more and more obvious that he's completely deserving of the miserable, bleak life he's leading right now.

Chris doesn't rate people's personalities with any depth if at all. To him, women are things for him to admire and paw at while they giggle like some anime girl. He is incredibly simple-minded and has only the narrowest understanding of social interaction. Untreated autism and Hoardzilla's personality have made him 100% Chris-centric, where only his own horny child desires matter. Following Chris is like watching a train climb a very tall mountain, fly off the tracks, crash in the valley, and then slowly start climbing up the same mountain again.

So, Sisyphus? Yeah, that seems like a fair comparison

 

[Holdek]

He can list dates, shit about card games and video games yet not once during the rant did he say what exactly Megan was overheard saying to Snyder.

Why is Anna playing dumb? She knows who Megan is and most likely has read the e-mail exchange where Megan told him to back off.

She wants to stay in his inner circle ( ) in order to keep goading him into doing lulzy stuff and getting inside drama and lulz.

Anna drives trolls and Christorians crazy because she's doing all this stuff to benefit herself while posturing as a legit white knight. Really I think once one accepts Anna for what she really is, and if anything this over-the-top "you go tom girl!" should make it obvious, one stops getting worked up about her.

She ass pats for the same reason any other troll would.

I don't know about that. I don't know if I can believe that Anna is trolling. Like, I guess if she really is trying to troll, she's really bad at it.

I mean, consider her posts about Megan. It's not like anyone is going to believe Chris' retarded beliefs about Megan. So with her posts encouraging Chris' Megan bullshit, she's not achieving anything.

She doesn't asspat for the same reason other trolls would. Other trolls actually achieve something.

She's achieving Chris embracing his delusions and making crazier/funnier posts. The difference with other trolls is she does it for her own amusement instead of for the crowd.

 

[A-№1]

Not if it's written, about a private person, untrue, and malicious. Which is all exactly what Chris is doing.

Libel is not free speech and is not protected.

If that were true, social networking sites would be full of people vulnerable to arrest/lawsuit.

Not vulnerable to arrest; this is a civil matter. Definitely vulnerable to lawsuit, though. But it doesn't happen much because most people are like Megan and don't want the hassle of pressing a lawsuit and just want to ignore it and get on with their lives. Also most of the perpetrators are even more judgement proof than Chris. Sure you'd win the case, but they don't have anything for you to collect.

 

[Holdek]

I'll keep saying it, she's a white knight AND an . If only I had a buck every time someone says Anna is Chris's biggest troll.

I've thought for a while that's what's going on. Anna isn't trolling Chris - she's trying to troll us. Or, you know, the people that follow him. If all of us dropped off the face of the planet, if Null packed up bags and went home and the cwciki vanished into the ether, I highly doubt that Anna would talk to Chris much if at all.

She vacillates between enabling him in public forums for people in the forum to froth with anger over, or she outright mocks him (the pictures in his moms underweat, the crazy pacer, etc). She just wants attention, and if Chris (and her by proxy) stopped getting it, I doubt she'd associate with him.

Eh, I don't know if I'd say she's trolling us either. Again, the same problem with the "Anna's trolling us" theory is the same problem with the "Anna's trolling Chris" theory. The problem is that, ultimately, she's not getting any content. What people claim is trolling on her part isn't achieving any amusing troll material. With Chris, she's just asspatting him, but that asspatting isn't getting Chris to do anything funny and it's not having any significant effects. And with her trying to fuck with us, she's not really getting serious results either. I think people occasionally talk about how she's a dipshit, but it's not like she's really seriously pissing many people off.

Honestly, it seems to me like she's just a dumbass. If she is trying to troll, she's really bad at it.

I never said she was particularly good troll.

The best example of this is in the video where he explains the shecameforcwc picture

This video shows Chris in the immediate aftermath of the Megan fiasco. Eventually he would soften his tone and yes, admit fault. In 2010 he would say, "When I started getting too close, she started to feel uncomfortable, My Bad." Of course now his story has changed once more since he's discovered that Megan was an evil troll, but the point is that he realized he made a mistake. Chris has admitted to lots of mistakes, but usually "mistake" is defined as something which discourages other people from treating him like a deity.

Chris is one of the few people I know of that manages to unlearn the right lesson.

 

[Vasilisa]

^I'm of the opinion that Chris' "cleanliness" when PCA saw him was just a fluke. IIRC the majority of field agent accounts say he's pretty gross.

He had probably just taken his monthly shower when PCA met him.

 

[Holdek]

Chris didn't do anything illegal, Megan isn't in real danger.

Sort of this.

If Megan really wanted to stop this sort of bullshit from Chris (and make him miserable at the same time), all she'd have to do is pay some lawyer about $100 to draft up a C&D letter for libel to send to Chris. But Megan, as the only wronged party here, is the only one who can do that. All any of us would accomplish is annoying the police or whoever.

Since Megan hasn't bothered dealing with Chris' libel, for her sake we shouldn't really get involved in her stead. Doubtless Megan simply wants to forget Chris, ignore Chris, have nothing to do with Chris one way or the other, and get on with her Chris-free life.

And of course Chris would angrily make a big deal about receiving the C&D and not accepting it blah blah blah so really it require some substantial time and energy on Megan's part, maybe even going to court since Chris is already unsatisfied with his lawyer's lack of wussiness.

 

[QI 541]

Not if it's written, about a private person, untrue, and malicious. Which is all exactly what Chris is doing.

Libel is not free speech and is not protected.

If that were true, social networking sites would be full of people vulnerable to arrest/lawsuit.

Not vulnerable to arrest; this is a civil matter. Definitely vulnerable to lawsuit, though.

Tell that to Chris.

"Report ALL the Trolls to the Police for SLANDERING my Good Name and Dragging my reputation through Muck, Mud, and bodily fluids!"

 

[MetroidJunkie]

Libel isn't protected under the First Amendment.

Even so, as it was stated before, Megan wouldn't actually push for it. She wants nothing to do with him for the most part and probably doesn't care that he's talking crap about her. It's not like anyone believes Chris' story, aside from the very small minority who just tell him what he wants to hear. If anyone's looking bad from this, it's Chris because he still can't let her go or admit it was his fault for being a terrible friend.

 

[A-№1]

And of course Chris would angrily make a big deal about receiving the C&D and not accepting it blah blah blah.

And it would be glorious.

Worst case (or would that be best case): Megan gets a C&D letter for about $100 and pays the extra $150 to the Greene County Sheriff to have a deputy serve it to him so he can't pretend he didn't get it and ignore it. Chris ignores it anyways and goes absolutely apey on facebook. Megan screencaps that, pays her attorney about $2k on retainer, and sues Chris. Chris doesn't even bother to show up for the initial hearing, and the judge takes one look at the screen caps and immediately puts Chris under a court order to immediately cease etc. Chris goes even more insane on facebook about that, only this time he's going directly against a judge, and they don't take too kindly to that. So now he's looking at contempt, fees, and probably having to pay Megan's legal fees as well. In short, Chris gets soundly fucked by the civil courts because he doesn't know when to stop digging his hole.

Total cost to Megan to completely fuck Chris' life: about $5k tops (which she may well recoup from the court garnishing his tugboat)

But she doesn't bother, because once again Chris is fortunate in not being worth the trouble. And Megan is probably too nice a person as well.

And that's another thing about Chris: all the "trolls" he attacks online have, on average, been rather kind, forgiving people and quite the opposite of how he tries to portray them. If any of them were the bad people he claims (or just a little vindictive), they would have wrecked his shit six ways to sunday long since. And rightly so.

Tell that to Chris.

"Report ALL the Trolls to the Police for SLANDERING my Good Name and Dragging my reputation through Muck, Mud, and bodily fluids!"

It doesn't work when everything the "trolls" are saying is true.

Even so, as it was stated before, Megan wouldn't actually push for it. She wants nothing to do with it and probably doesn't care that he's talking crap about her. It's not like anyone believes Chris' story, aside from the very small minority who just tell him what he wants to hear.

But that was my original point. Megan can go after Chris for libel and nail him in the civil courts, but she's one of the only people who can. People here who try to sic the law on Chris are just flapping their gums.

 

[MetroidJunkie]

But that was my original point. Megan can go after Chris for libel and nail him in the civil courts, but she's one of the only people who can. People here who try to sic the law on Chris are just flapping their gums.

Fair enough. I agree, though, Meg's probably far too nice to do it anyway. If she isn't going to file sexual harassment charges against him when he was inappropriately touching her and drawing porno of her, she isn't going to file for this.

 

[homerbeoulve]

But that was my original point. Megan can go after Chris for libel and nail him in the civil courts, but she's one of the only people who can. People here who try to sic the law on Chris are just flapping their gums.

Fair enough. I agree, though, Meg's probably far too nice to do it anyway. If she isn't going to file sexual harassment charges against him when he was inappropriately touching her and drawing porno of her, she isn't going to file for this.

And a permanent protection order.

 

[A-№1]

But that was my original point. Megan can go after Chris for libel and nail him in the civil courts, but she's one of the only people who can. People here who try to sic the law on Chris are just flapping their gums.

Fair enough. I agree, though, Meg's probably far too nice to do it anyway. If she isn't going to file sexual harassment charges against him when he was inappropriately touching her and drawing porno of her, she isn't going to file for this.

We can only hope that one day Chris tries his shit with a Complete Bastard and they turn around and rape his life teach him some hard deserved lessons for it.