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didnt the whole bo-po movement start with exactly these groups tho? but nobody remembers that bcus fatties stole it like it was an unattended cheeseburger as soon as they got a whiff of it
Fat Acceptance Movement / Fat Girlcows
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You are correct.
In all honesty, I'm even OK with "body positivity" in the sense that we should treat others as we would like to be treated, even if someone is fat. However, these fat women are truly ugly inside and out, so I'm throwing my kindness and patience out the window in regards to these fat activists.
I'm not going to start yelling ugly names at any random fat person I see or anything, but I'll be damned if I participate in the delusion that "health and beauty exist at every size."
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LIZZO is truly a fucking pathetic creature from hell. Is her record company keeping her new songs hostage? Is she not able to jump on anyone’s track and be the hook girl to keep her name out there until her next album drops? I have no idea why she has taken this circus freak route, but I wish it would stop. Her body is gross. Yes, yes, pretty face. Yes, yes, lots of women have the same body type/shape. Look you dumb bitch, not everyone gets to be the highly praised, sought after pretty girl. That’s just how life is. Normal realize this and accept it and/or focus on other aspects of their lives. But Lizzo and all these other social media cows cannot accept that they are ugly and forcibly shoe horn themselves into something they will never be. So sad. So stupid. So obnoxious. So tard. Again “ladies” you’re fat, most people don’t get boners for it. Move on.
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"health at every size" started out as a good idea too. promoting healthier lifestyles for everyone, and not focusing solely on the scale number is brilliant. even if you dont lose any weight, increasing everyday activity and exercise will have a positive impact on your blood pressure and hormonal balance.
it used to mean that everyone can strive to be healthier, regardless of size. not that being a fatass is healthy lmao
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I know Danielle Mcallister is boring as fuck, but just so you know, she’s doing great and still thriving!!!
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Yeah, interesting, too, how fat acceptance twisted HAES into "but health is not a moral imperative," as if gently suggesting that sedentary people should take a brisk walk a few times a week and try to eat more fresh fruit and veg was a fascist diktat. Physiological science--the science they foam at the mouth over when it's related to Covid vaccines and climate change--is now called white supremacy or some such bullshit.
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I've never heard lizzo's music but she doesn't bother me nearly as much as most of the other FA tards. She seems like a modern black female version of Divine, and I love Divine. Even though her fans are obnoxious and insufferable.
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Case in point: Kelly Lenza's autist husband not only married her, but fucked her at least twice, and she has the unfortunate children to prove it. Ditto, Amy Haramadan. At least two guys have dumped enough seed into Tess Holliday to produce offspring, and one married her (albeit as a green card scam).
There's a soyboy who is apparently sticking it into the monstrous and vile Virgie Tovar while stone cold sober (which is a mystery for the ages, as she is no-shit the least attractive woman on the planet). Even the 1000-lb, sisters, the Slatons, have found guys willing to slip them the D.
And let's not forget Chantal, possibly the most foul and disgusting hambeast still on four trotters (until Lord Beetus inevitably takes the hind ones), who has had sex with at least three degenerates, including her cucked ex-boyfriend and current roommate James/Peetz, the stoic African immigrant she lived with for eight years, and, most recently, an Egyptian drug dealer who keeps a separate sex mattress on the floor just for porking fatgirls.
We do have the permavirgins Anna O'Brien/Glitterandlazers and Jude Valentin, and hideous enby thing Elizabeth "Eli" Blodgett, who can only get it on with other female enby things as hideous as herself. We've also got corn-fed, gravel-faced self-proclaimed Fat Bitch Corissa Enneking, who went lesbo after her husband trooned out. But a surprising number of the deathfats we discuss here have not only found men willing to fuck them, but even marry them.
So much for men having unrealistic beauty standards.
She's an addict. Addicts pursue their addiction until they're done with it, and not one moment less.
A lot of addicts are fortunate enough to have an awakening, a moment when it fully crashes down on them just how much they've already lost to their addiction—and that they still have so much more to lose if they keep going. Or maybe it's just as simple as, "Fuck this shit; I can't do this any more. Something has to change." Those are the ones that manage to quit. Maybe not on their first try at cleaning up, but eventually it sticks.
But there are still a lot of addicts for whom there just seems to be no bottom floor; they just keep going down and down, with the consequences getting worse and worse, as everything they've lost to their addiction just keeps piling up. And yet, as painful as their existence becomes, they never have that awakening. They never have that deep, "Fuck this shit," moment that sets them on a stumbling quest to get better.
It's really hard to watch an addict you care about keep destroying themselves. But until they have that moment of awakening, actually want to change, and become willing to do whatever it takes to climb out of Hell, there is nothing you can do. At best, you can keep a bunch of resources on hand so the moment she admits she needs help, you know where to send her. Until then, there will be no "workable solutions" until she decides a solution is needed, and is willing to work it.
It's shitty, but unfortunately that's the sad reality of it.
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Fat fetishisms - together with scat, pee and vomit - is one of those things that I simply cannot understand. How anyone can be attracted to disgusting things is beyond me. I think the main reason these heifers get dates at all is because there are relatively few women left in the US who aren't obese - the average female BMI is sitting at 30 as we speak. If you look at this chart you can see that female attractiveness peaks at a BMI of only 19 and by a BMI of 23 you'll start a long, slow decline in attractiveness. If I read that chart right, by a BMI of 30 the average man will give the woman a score of 2.5 on a scale from 0 to 10. So if you have no-one left to date above 2.5, what the hell are you supposed to do?!? The options are either not to date, to date a bovine or turn gay. If those were my options, I'd rather stay alone to be honest.
Yeah, I've slowly gotten to your conclusion. The woman in question is about 5 years my senior and has all the requirements - proof of high IQ through an actual IQ test, a Ph.D. in a STEM field, and a resume with past employment in Fortune 500 tech companies - to do really well in life. And up to some degree she did, until she became so obese that she wasn't able to work even at a white collar working environment ca. 3 years ago. Since then her weight has gone up even faster than before and her mental health is totally gone. The last time I spoke with my friend and tried to tell her to take her fatty liver and diabetes more serious, and she exploded on me blaming me for her poor health outcomes because I (paraphrasing) "refused to date her decades ago" and "have scared her with healthcare outcomes that stresses her out causing her to eat more", like serious WTF stuff.
What annoys me is that my friend has lost essentially every friend she's ever made, except for me. Even her entire family is avoiding her because of her behavior. I ask her practically every day how she's doing through text and offer her an opportunity to talk to someone (me) on the phone if she'd like to. I've given her every online resource that I can find to help her break from her sugar addiction. I've even lent her $2k (I can afford it, and I honestly don't expect her to ever pay me back) so that she could avoid declaring bankruptcy. What really blew my mind was the day she was diagnosed with T2 diabetes with fasting blood sugars already in the 300 mg/dl level, she outright refused to discuss the matter and didn't consider it a significant problem, worrying instead about her having recently lost her EBT card. I replied by telling her that her fridge is pretty full, since I had been over relatively recently and she countered by saying "yes, but I don't have enough candy". Sorry for bitching, but I'm just really, really frustrated.
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Hearting everything else, but I question sources that a BMI of 19 is the peak attractiveness. That’s just barely over the rating of “clinically underweight.”
This woman, for example, has a bmi of 19:
I would be leery of a chart found on a wikipedia page that is 100% being curated by fat fetishists. It’s in their interest to cherry-pick the one study that supports their “society is brainwashing men into only loving tiny stick figure women!!” party line. I can’t find any info on that chart except that it’s cited in a short article about fat fetishism and I can find no sources on who conducted this survey, how many people in the control group, what country it was conducted in, etc.
The fact remains that if you upped the above-pictured woman’s chest from an A cup to a C and gave her a bit of arse, her bmi would boost up by one or two points immediately, to the so-called “less attractive” bmi of 20.
If men truly are seeking a woman with a bmi of 19, good luck. Most women’s body proportions just can’t support that size without heavy constant restriction. It’s half a point above clinically underweight.
A far more reliable measurement of desirability is the hip to waist ratio. A woman with a ratio of 0.7 is seen as most ideal by straight men.
Let’s also not overlook that fact that when it comes to overweight and mildly obese, men have women beat, at least in Burgerland
Source: https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity
But yes, people in general are getting fatter than ever and doing less about it, instead making excuses and slogans to cover up a massive health crisis. I’m sorry your friend is so absurdly bullheaded about it
you’ve done what you could to help her with resources, but she clearly wants to stick her head in the sand.
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A bmi of 19 is nothing to clutch pearls over anymore than a bmi of 24 (almost overweight!). What inhibits morbidly obese women is partially looks and partially the maladaptive behaviors that lead them to be that size in the first place. And the smell. Past a certain size it becomes difficult to clean oneself properly. That chart is also only rating bmi, not waist-to-hip ratio or symmetry or athleticism, and with a sample size of only 47 men (in the control group). I'd take it with a grain of salt, though I don't doubt that being a healthy weight is attractive to most people.
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Yeah bmi is by itself WILDLY vague sometimes, especially with people who work out and lift, and really meant for a general guideline. If you quibble over 20 vs 21, that’s silly. But if you’re a bmi of 30 and telling yourself that’s basically the same as 24, that’s when you got issues.
I noticed the 47 men in the group were the fat fetishists being tested. The control group size is not even stated, nor who conducted it. A lot of grains of salt required.
I know what you mean, in a way, close friends or family with an eating disorder of any stripe you go between despair and frustration. Eating in moderation- not to starve, not to become huge- doesn't seem hard. But like an anorexic reduced to bones, you cannot just snap them out of it. You oscillate between desperation, grief, frustration. Eating should be easy.
Treatment for anorexia nervosa has become more effective over the years, as more research and study has been invested in it. Sugar and food addiction though? It doesn't seem like there's much beyond Overeaters Anonymous.
Food addiction should be recognised as a pathology needing psychological intervention, first and foremost. We don't approach anorexic patients with a stern talking to after appraising their diet. Why would we assume that tactic would work for chronic food addicts?
I can't give you advice. But I think the closest thing to helping your friend would be to try and glean the pain at the root of where it all started. Obviously the worse the disorder affects her life, the more food is a salve. But what was the beginning of that? Did her family mess her up? Was school socially brutal?
I admire you for sticking with her. I wish there were more resources for overeating addiction. It's weird how it's completely brushed under the rug. You could speculate that the West's rising obesity rate speaks to cope via food, widespread. But the articles about rising obesity and it's accompanying huge social costs go no further than 'well um this is a problem'.
I hope your friend can have that wake up call soon. I know supporting those with eating disorders can be bloody hard, so kudos.
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Awkward Aardvark
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You're right. I was a bit hesitant to post that link, because I suspected some issues with the study as well. On a personal level I think I like women best with a BMI around 21-23, and biologically speaking you should find a strong correlation between attractiveness, fertility and even health - and in fact they are essentially the same curve. That study shows a peak attractiveness around BMI of 20-22, although it has a sample size problem due to it being limited to the Chinese population etc. Overall the results feel more accurate.
I also suspect (but can't affirm) that the study I quoted showed pictures of women to these men and in pictures skinner people tend to be more attractive than they are in real life. I'm also wondering if they ended up showing pictures of models, especially on the lighter side, since it's difficult to find a good sample sizing of women with BMIs below 20 or so. To do that study exactly right, one would almost need to take a woman with a BMI of, say, 25 and then increase/decrease that BMI using a computer that relies on real life data for fat distribution etc. instead of just ballooning/thinning the woman through photoshop techniques. Regardless, the obvious end result is that men really aren't into obese females.
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That's just a really unflattering photo, to be honest. I think this gives a better overview.
BMI is fairly reliable, the vast majority of women do not get enough exercise/ physical labour for the difference in muscle to matter.
God knows what images they were using in that study, but a lot of models will be bmi 19 or even smaller.
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Studies behind a $51 paywall and from the abstract it appears its not even a true study its listed as a "perspective" piece by their own journal.That's just a really unflattering photo, to be honest. I think this gives a better overview.
BMI is fairly reliable, the vast majority of women do not get enough exercise/ physical labour for the difference in muscle to matter.
God knows what images they were using in that study, but a lot of models will be bmi 19 or even smaller.
DumbDude42
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im actually surprised that at the very top of the gigafats there's almost double as many women as menHearting everything else, but I question sources that a BMI of 19 is the peak attractiveness. That’s just barely over the rating of “clinically underweight.”
This woman, for example, has a bmi of 19:View attachment 2329784
I would be leery of a chart found on a wikipedia page that is 100% being curated by fat fetishists. It’s in their interest to cherry-pick the one study that supports their “society is brainwashing men into only loving tiny stick figure women!!” party line. I can’t find any info on that chart except that it’s cited in a short article about fat fetishism and I can find no sources on who conducted this survey, how many people in the control group, what country it was conducted in, etc.
The fact remains that if you upped the above-pictured woman’s chest from an A cup to a C and gave her a bit of arse, her bmi would boost up by one or two points immediately, to the so-called “less attractive” bmi of 20.
If men truly are seeking a woman with a bmi of 19, good luck. Most women’s body proportions just can’t support that size without heavy constant restriction. It’s half a point above clinically underweight.
A far more reliable measurement of desirability is the hip to waist ratio. A woman with a ratio of 0.7 is seen as most ideal by straight men.
Let’s also not overlook that fact that when it comes to overweight and mildly obese, men have women beat, at least in Burgerland
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Source: https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity
But yes, people in general are getting fatter than ever and doing less about it, instead making excuses and slogans to cover up a massive health crisis. I’m sorry your friend is so absurdly bullheaded about it
from my impresisons IRL i would have expected the opposite, whenever i'm outside i see way more super fat men with huge beer guts than i do super fat women
then again i'm not in america so maybe the distribution is just different in different countries
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Saw one of those bariatric chairs at the doctor's office this morning. It's even bigger in person.
