I noticed when looking the older messages that this video wasn't archived in this thread. So I'm saving it here. Maybe it could be of some use in the future.
I noticed when looking the older messages that this video wasn't archived in this thread. So I'm saving it here. Maybe it could be of some use in the future.
hey avengers.rar is down on pixeldrain can someone reupload it please on anonfiles com i just came today and missed it, and also is there a archive with all leaked telegram videos? iam new here, hi!
I noticed when looking the older messages that this video wasn't archived in this thread. So I'm saving it here. Maybe it could be of some use in the future.
@Mentally ill slave do you know from when exactly this video is? Looks like third trimester belly. If its older then 3 months, the baby is already born.
Wow, how the heck did you find it? I gave up last night lol
But the month can't be right? It's also my ex bday I would remembered if he uploaded on that day lol
If you have the original unmodified file, maybe you can see when it's created, or at least was downloaded?
@Mentally ill slave do you know from when exactly this video is? Looks like third trimester belly. If its older then 3 months, the baby is already born.
Sighs a breath of relief. Thanks, I thought it was lost. It's evident he deleted it since he wants to distance himself from that telegram channel by removing traces. I guess it's similar to how he blackmailed that Ilyas slave/cuck or subhuman, which someone else here called him, in order to commit a crime for him. I will reupload this to youtube, so everyone can see and be reminded of this that Gatis is the one behind Caroline the great telegram, although most of us know this already, but judging how he's hiding his ridiculous fake hair and other shit by pretending like nothing, it's obvious he'd planned this with the telegram channel too.
Comes to think of it, he also denied the Latvian stabbing during a "debate" with Vegan gains.
Sighs a breath of relief. Thanks, I thought it was lost. It's evident he deleted it since he wants to distance himself from that telegram channel by removing traces. I guess it's similar to how he blackmailed that Ilyas slave/cuck or subhuman, which someone else here called him, in order to commit a crime for him. I will reupload this to youtube, so everyone can see and be reminded of this that Gatis is the one behind Caroline the great telegram, although most of us know this already, but judging how he's hiding his ridiculous fake hair and other shit by pretending like nothing, it's obvious he'd planned this with the telegram channel too.
Comes to think of it, he also denied the Latvian stabbing during a "debate" with Vegan gains.
wait some people think he didnt create the telegram group? he literally announced it on his channel and linked it in the description and kept the video up for a long time, how does this guy get away wish stuff like this? if he lived in the USA he would have been in jail a long time ago
wait some people think he didnt create the telegram group? he literally announced it on his channel and linked it in the description and kept the video up for a long time, how does this guy get away wish stuff like this? if he lived in the USA he would have been in jail a long time ago
To be more specific. He made that video to send people to a telegram channel called "OnlyForMyTrueFans". He pretended that this channel was run by someone else and that they were going to expose something.
On the telegram channel he posted a link to another telegram channel called "Caroline The Great" and then deleted the "OnlyForMyTrueFans" channel and video.
He probably did all these maneuvers just to keep only his slavescribers simps, so he can feel safer when posting all that stuff.
In a now deleted community post I saw on his channel, he was asking what the subscribers wanted him to upload. The most liked comment was something to the effect of "make a video on if hair systems are natural." Sv3rige followers are dumb, but I don't think they're even that stupid to believe that this balding fuck's hairline magically moved down to the top of his forehead instead of the middle of his skull.
In a now deleted community post I saw on his channel, he was asking what the subscribers wanted him to upload. The most liked comment was something to the effect of "make a video on if hair systems are natural." Sv3rige followers are dumb, but I don't think they're even that stupid to believe that this balding fuck's hairline magically moved down to the top of his forehead instead of the middle of his skull.
I noticed when looking the older messages that this video wasn't archived in this thread. So I'm saving it here. Maybe it could be of some use in the future. View attachment 5090938
To be more specific. He made that video to send people to a telegram channel called "OnlyForMyTrueFans". He pretended that this channel was run by someone else and that they were going to expose something.
On the telegram channel he posted a link to another telegram channel called "Caroline The Great" and then deleted the "OnlyForMyTrueFans" channel and video.
He probably did all these maneuvers just to keep only his slavescribers simps, so he can feel safer when posting all that stuff.
It's not the first time he does this, and it appears to be he's plotted something similar in regard to the attacks on Luna. That's why I was worried that the video was gone.
Is 'Ilyas A.' the real name or is it fake to hide the real identity? If it's real then it seems like this person is Arab. Is it likely Belle's ex husband (it says they were husand/wife in one of the articles: https://www.omroepzeeland.nl/amp/nieuws/15537718/verdachte-zuuraanval-ik-werd-bedreigd-het-spijt-me ) would be Arab? I kinda don't see her being in a relationship with one for some reason.
All other details from the news articles are indeed too similar to be a coincidence.
1- Gatis mentioned 'children' in his 'Alex' video (' Really think about it and think about your future, your children, everything.') and the articles mention Ilyas has a 15 year old daughter & other children that were supposedly 'threatened'. Article says: 'The daughter, whom he took because he did not want to leave her alone, is being tried behind closed doors because she is a minor. She allegedly stated that she and her father were paid to attack the woman. According to the suspect, he told her that to protect her and his other children.'
2- Luna does have a 'small child'.
3- Gatis is a 'crackpot' 'vlogger' who makes 'weird movies' that are 'cult' like.
4- Ilyas is from Germany. We know Belle there so makes sense her ex would be from there too.
So on and so forth... there really are loads of similarities.
Another inconsistency is Ilyas only later admitting he was threatened to do the attack.
"You only started declaring about the threats after you told daughter that you would be paid for what you did," she told A. "In doing so, your statements about the threats are rather vague.
Did he pay him for it, or does Gatis really have that kind of incriminating information about him? What could possibly be so bad that you rather risk getting arrested for disfiguring a mother of a little child and even try to kill both of them with arson?
I kinda think that he must have get paid and is just trying to make it look better in court with saying that he was threatened himself.
Exactly. If Gatis blackmailed him into doing the attack what could possibly be worse than doing the acid attack/arson? There is pretty much nothing worse than that unless Ilyas is a truly deranged criminal of some sort.
Or like Sv4head said: there was no blackmail and he was just paid to do it. But why would Belle's ex fall for this. Perhaps he really is deranged or just stupid.
Also, Belle is deranged herself if all of this is true. She made a post about how her ex beat her up and then potentially threatens/pays her abuser with gatis to attack another woman? That makes her truly evil.
Unless, Belle wasn't too involved in this and Gatis used her past situation with her ex to orchestrate this whole thing. Don't really buy this version, though. It's like they both found each other/ came together to unleash evil onto their exes.
If all of this is really true then Belle is as equally fucked up as Gatis and not a poor abused victim in all of this.
Usually Newspapers don't make up names, they just don't announce the full family name and yes Ilyas is a turkish, or arabian name and too be honest I find it more shocking that a woman would decide to be together with Gatis than with just a random turk, or arab.
Perhaps Ilyas has really done something that would make him vulnerable for getting blackmailed. For example he could have really beat up Belle in the past, what would kind explain her nose, but then again it could also be all lies, or not even been posted by Belle herself.
Either way perhaps if Ilyas is a immigrant and has done anything whatsoever, it's possible that Gatis made him afraid of being deported, if he doesn't obey his orders to harm Luna. That would most likely indeed involve that Ilyas isn't the brightest, I guess.
Since it's become evident that Sv3rige appears to have arranged for/paid for the acid and arson attacks on Luna, I've written a summary for any new people given that this information has trickled down and been pieced together over the course of the last few months.
Introduction:
After Gatis received a single Bitcoin donation in 2022, a single mother matching Luna's (Gatis' ex girlfriend) description was attacked with acid near her house in May. In January 2023, the woman's house was burned down, and the suspected arsonists were caught. There were some rumors circulating at the time that the victim was Luna, but it was only in late March 2023 that the rumors were gaining noticeable traction, with YouTubers and acquaintances claiming it as fact. (Discussion of initial articles and claims) Gatis' violent history of being a perpetrator of a mass stabbing in high-school, allegations he beat probably every woman he has ever been with and claims from his ex-girlfriend Jasmine that he wanted to murder Luna in early 2021 made the bizarre story somewhat believable.
It was then discovered that a video Gatis had posted in November 2021 of being chased and beaten by (who he claimed to be) Luna's friend took place a few blocks from where the acid attack and arson took place:
Video posted by Gatis of him being beaten:
Screenshot from video @0:17s vs Google street view a few blocks away the house:
Rotated screenshot from video @0:27s vs Google street view
In mid April, Catherine (Gatis' ex-wife) made a number of videos claiming that Gatis often talked about 'wanting to throw acid in Luna's face [and wanting to] put her house on fire' and confirmed that the articles were about Luna. Catherine also alleges that she, Gatis and YouTuber German Carnivore / Florian Strack (post discussing GC) conspired to kidnap and kill Luna in late 2021. (Original Post)
In between many of the call-out videos Catherine made, she often recanted her allegations or made bizarre claims that Gatis was a good guy which lead many to suspect she was either being blackmailed or was an unreliable witness. Meanwhile, Gatis released a since deleted video where he subtly hinted that he would be releasing revenge pornography of Catherine on a Telegram channel he created.
He's going to release revenge porn or worse of Catherine ("Car-o-line" 0:19). Same thing he did to Luna a while back. "Only" for my true "Fans" - "OnlyFans". When Catherine initially left him and Sv3rige made that CathyTheGreat channel, he replied to a comment hinting that he'd release revenge porn of her soon.
He eventually does, releasing an archive including nudes and miscellaneous videos of Catherine, her full dox and a scan of her driver's license. (Original Post)
Contents of Avengers.rar
Included in Important Info.txt is Catherine's full dox including messages encouraging his followers to pay her family members a 'lovely visit' at their home address and their places of employment. The final paragraph encourages his suicidal followers who feel their life is 'genetically' failed to buy a ticket to Canada to pay Gatis 'respect. True natural respect.'
Preliminary Hearing Commences and Public Details Emerge:
Meanwhile, in late April, the preliminary hearing for the suspected arsonists (a 33-year-old German man identified as Ilyas A. and his 15-year-old daughter) commenced. Articles published explain that Ilyas claimed that he was threatened by Luna's ex boyfriend (Obviously Gatis, but he is not named in the articles) who he describes as an 'avid vlogger.' Ilyas explains that his own ex ("Primal Belle", also not named in articles because of EU privacy) is currently dating Gatis. Earlier, Belle announced her pregnancy in January but then went dark on social media, her final Instagram post being a day before the arson attack.
Suspect of acid attack and arson in Burgh-Haamstede: 'I was threatened'
Attacking the mother of a small child is something 34-year-old Ilyas A. would normally never have done. But under pressure from others it came to pass anyway, the German told the judge in Middelburg on Tuesday. ''I was threatened myself and I regret it.''
According to the prosecution, it was A. who poured a caustic, chemical liquid over the occupant of a house on Sluispad in Burgh-Haamstede last May. And it was also A. who in January this year set fire to the corner house where nobody was home at the time. The terraced house was badly destroyed. That same night, A. was arrested along with his 15-year-old daughter on the A58 near Kapelle.
Ilyas A. maintains that he made a terrible mistake under pressure from others. He did not know the victim personally. ''Until what happened, I led a normal and boring life. I am ashamed and sorry,'' he said at a preliminary hearing.
According to the German living in Lahr, the threats came from the former partner of the victim from Burgh-Haamstede. That man, an avid vlogger, is now in a relationship with A's ex. Through her phone, A. was told what to do in Burgh-Haamstede. Why he had to attack the woman in Zeeland and set her house on fire, A. did not tell the judge. The prosecutor described A's ex-wife and her new boyfriend as "crackpot" and said they engaged in "weird movies" and belong to a cult. Where the two are currently staying is unknown.
'Declaring late about the threats'
Lawyer Roeland Aerts asked the judge if he could hear three witnesses to clarify why A. proceeded to commit a crime. He was referring to A's ex, her vlogging partner and the victim from Burgh-Haamstede. The judge rejected that request because the woman from Burgh-Haamstede stated that she did not know A. The judge also felt that hearing the other two would not add anything at this point. "You only started declaring about the threats after you told daughter that you would be paid for what you did," she told A. "In doing so, your statements about the threats are rather vague.
Counsel wants the bottom line to come out. ''This is about finding the truth. You can't tell me that you just get into your car in Germany and drive to Burgh-Haamstede to attack someone. There must be something behind that."
(Original Post)
The motive for the attacks has not been fully established as of this post. Another article alleges that Ilyas' daughter claims they were paid to attack Luna while Ilyas claims this was a cover story he told her and that he was threatened.
The man suspected of dousing a woman with acid in Burgh-Haamstede last year says he did so because he was threatened. Today he was in court for the first time, at a preliminary hearing.
The 33-year-old man, who lives in Germany, has remained silent during the interrogations with the police. In the end, he stated during his last interrogation and in court that he would have been pressured by the victim's ex to attack the woman. That man is now in a relationship with the ex-wife of the suspect.
Daughter
The suspect has been to Burgh-Haamstede twice. Last year he injured the victim by dousing her with an acidic liquid. In January of this year, he set fire to her house. In both cases, he took his daughter with him, who is also suspected.
The public prosecutor said at the hearing that it is clear: all the evidence points to the man and his daughter. According to the Public Prosecution Service, the investigation can be closed and the suspects can be tried.
Finding the truth
Roeland Aerts, the man's lawyer sees it differently. He wants people to be heard who can tell more about the threat. "It's about finding the truth," he said. "I think the bottom stone must come up." Aerts thinks that the Public Prosecution Service should have done better research, especially in Germany.
According to the officer, the witnesses will not tell anything new, if they can be found at all. "Those people are crazy. They're in some cult. What does it matter to this case?"
Safehouse
Incidentally, not only are the possible witnesses lost, the victim has also disappeared. "She would be in England, or in a safe house. She has no contact with the OM," said the officer.
The court rejected the lawyer's request to hear witnesses. He will still be given the opportunity to submit research wishes if the Public Prosecution Service will soon have completed the investigation.
Regret
After all, the suspect said that it was not his intention to hurt the victim. "Because of the threat, I did what they asked," said the suspect. "I've always had good contact with my ex. I'm ashamed, I don't want to hurt anyone, I'm sorry. I would never attack a woman with a small child."
The daughter, whom he took because he did not want to leave her alone, is being tried behind closed doors because she is a minor. She allegedly stated that she and her father were paid to attack the woman. According to the suspect, he told her that to protect her and his other children. The ex of the victim from Burgh-Haamstede, who would have ordered the attack, would have threatened the other children of the suspect.
The case continues in July.
(Original Post)
Pieces Click Into Place:
In light of recent articles, some suspect that a video posted by Gatis in February 2022 (Original Post) addressed to Belle's ex may contain a coded message to invoke the attacks on Luna.
Translated from German by sk8ordie said:
"OK, so I really have to say something (about it).
what you allegedly did was all for her own good. But I am 100% sure that you would never do something like that. I know that. That's why what you did instead and how you did it is even worse for her. Really think about it and think about your future, your children, everything."
"Okay, also ich muss echt was dazu sagen.
Das, was du jetzt angeblich gemacht hast, war ja alles für ihr Wohl. Aber ich bin mir 100% sicher, dass du so etwas niemals tun würdest. Ich weiß das. Deshalb ist das, was du anstatt gemacht hast und wie du es gemacht hast, noch viel schlimmer für sie. Denk doch echt darüber nach und denk über deine Zukunft nach, deine Kinder, alles."
Gatis has been known do this in the past, such as how he announced the revenge porn plot on Catherine. Catherine recently explained that 'going to Norway' was the code used for the first murder attempt on Luna. This phrase was uttered in October 2021, a month before the video Gatis posted of him getting his ass beat in Luna's neighborhood.
Some posters suspect that Ilyas may have been blackmailed into doing the attack. Shortly after Gatis' message to Ilyas, Belle has posted a since deleted Instagram post claiming that the reason why she had a nose job was because her ex destroyed her nose bridge:
Conclusion:
Whatever the story is, both Belle and Gatis' whereabouts are currently unknown. Catherine claims that Gatis recently encouraged Catherine to buy a plane ticket to Thailand so they could meet up. A recent article also claims that Luna's whereabouts are also unknown which could be a result of her being put in a witness protection program. Gatis continues to Livestream on YouTube to this day, and made a recent video claiming that he is very close to owning a house. Gatis continues to receive generous donations from his subscribers including some more (plural) bitcoin.
Recent articles explain that the prosecutor believes that there is more to the story that Ilyas is not revealing, but a request to subpoena Belle and Gatis for testimony was denied by the judge. The next hearing for Ilyas' trial is scheduled for July 13.
Usually Newspapers don't make up names, they just don't announce the full family name and yes Ilyas is a turkish, or arabian name and too be honest I find it more shocking that a woman would decide to be together with Gatis than with just a random turk, or arab.
Perhaps Ilyas has really done something that would make him vulnerable for getting blackmailed. For example he could have really beat up Belle in the past, what would kind explain her nose, but then again it could also be all lies, or not even been posted by Belle herself.
Either way perhaps if Ilyas is a immigrant and has done anything whatsoever, it's possible that Gatis made him afraid of being deported, if he doesn't obey his orders to harm Luna. That would most likely indeed involve that Ilyas isn't the brightest, I guess.
Depends, if he's Turkish he might as well be a third or fourth-generation migrant since Turks have been in Germany for a long while. After reading these articles and the long post above, there are no hints so far that they are searching for Gatis, which is disturbing imo.
Also, not many here have been sympathetic to Belle. Just by looking at that plastic face, and you obviously know something is wrong with her too.
Worse than an arson attack would be murder, but a murder attempt is a serious offense in most countries, I don't think Germany is any different in that regard, or at least I hope.
Wasn't Gatis before sympathetic to white nationalism? He talked about how he would feel more at home in Ukraine because it was whiter, and then blamed Luna's beaten up face on Afghan migrants. So what is he doing dating a Turk's ex? This is just getting more and more ridiculous the more I learn about him. I believe he's been sympathetic to Varg Vikernes too, which funnily enough, they have many similarities: stabbing, weird cults, mentally deranged, bald, preaching about living on welfare and so on. Varg seems to have gotten his life back though. I'm not sure if Gatis ever will.
I want to reply to the post below me, but can't. I'm new here does anyone know what's up? Either way, you should contact the german police and show them that. At least in Sweden they appreciate when witnesses and such bring information to the police. I figure German authorities shouldn't be much different.
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