General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Jeff Gerstmann]

LOL, well, the inter-hate among Asians - particularly in the SEA area can be pretty consistent. You'll notice there's usually strong racial overtones too, particularly from the older generations that lived or continues to live in the "old world" away from western media.

I have lived in the American South and people stereotype them as racist as shit but I've honestly never met a more racist bunch of people than Asians. But honestly, I get some of it. What Japan did to China alone in WW2 is enough.

 

[Girlboy69]

Melody is back to streaming later. I don't watch Twitch so if anyone does, clip if she addresses the Nux shit. She's the one people seem to be waiting on to say something.

 

[Jeff Gerstmann]

Bashing babies against a tree is not considered civilized??

Depends on how many points you get for doing it.

 

[Girlboy69]

VS management told her not to talk about it

I didn't know they HAD management. They should've stopped them from starting the shitstorm to begin with.

E: Is Nyanners still considered the one who started the shit storm? If so, she should probably be in trouble or something.

 

[VTuber Bob Dole]

To be fair, all of these recently got remakes in the last 5 years I believe

I mean Im 24 and I beat the shit out of electronics that refuse to work. Not trying to make excuses, but there's kids today who do this stuff so Im not quick to assume.

Well it's Japan. America can't make a scary film to save its life.

I'd argue late millennials and after are almost as bad as boomers with tech, at least with fixing it. Boomers grew up without it and were too old to really absorb the knowledge by the time it was integral to daily life (also the get off my lawn/don't need it mentality). Late millenials have just had ubiquitous tech handed to them now with no idea how it works internally. To them it is a black box, fully integrated. You can't built from scratch phone, tablets, or even most laptops anymore, so to them it is just a single entity like a toaster they use to connect to the internet. They just know the latest iPhone is the best, but probably not why. They are of course better than boomers at accepting the tech, but if anything goes wrong with it they are lost as well.

I'd think GenX through early millennials were peak with computers and tech (maybe I'm biased bc I fall within this range). They had to spec out and build their own computers frequently, so know what the components mean and do. It was a big deal to get more memory or a new CPU because there was actually a difference that you could tell. Now there isn't much change, and even less so noticeable by a normal person, year to year and with each new generation. Also had to live through the growing pains of DOS to Windows as it was developed, so know the ins and outs of fixing/troubleshooting the software side too.

Of course there are exceptions both ways, but in general that's the way it seems to me.

And there we have it. . . our in house MV creator and Live2D rigger.

Edit: Ah, I see she studied at the Senchou School of Maringrish.

Edit_2: Lol:
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So Iroha is a rigger? Maybe they have her working on/fixing EN's new stuff and that is why they are delayed! Anybody but Gura's (and they did Anya too, iirc) has got to be better right? No more paper plates please!

https://twitter.com/keffiy/status/1465673046467887111

Her live2d can walk

Starts straight away with the thighs/ZR... I approb! Also the wind effect is pretty cool. Can she do that whenever she wants or did she demonstrate it during her debut? (Need to catch up and watch it.)

I'm surprised she didn't do her own stuff if she's a rigger though. Maybe that just shows that the characters are made and rigged before the girls are even chosen or assigned, otherwise I'd think it would have made more sense for her to do her own to show her work.

I know for a fact that some escort sites also just steal images from various other sources, including social media accounts and the like. I saw a few 'escort ads' using casual photos of a few amateur/OF girls I recognize, so it's not outside of the realm of possibility Keeki's pictures were just grabbed because they exist.

Yep I agree that is a good possibility, so only said it was speculation. It could very well just have been stealing her picture to use for it.

 

[Girlboy69]

Lol, Watching this Flam shit and I decided to look up "silvervale blocked" on Twitter and I guess she just goes on blocking rampages.

What a fragile fatass.

 

[Nolan Crush]

Ok I'm gonna do my best to parse what is frankly disastrous coverage of Mouseys statement from Flamenco

First a Note to flamenco since he said he did go here to get news on the drama i enjoyed your first two streams covering this but this one was bad man

If you are gonna watch a livestream for news coverage/statements you should be aware that muting and pausing an unpausable stream is going to create lack of context and miscommunication so I'll clear up the biggest couple

1. Mousey never intended to let her VOD live from what i gathered in the comments of your vid. She wanted to move on but felt she owed her audience a slightly more detailed explanation of her side of the events. Then she was gonna nuke the VOD because VS management told her not to talk about it (so much for creator freedom but I'll get to that later) so it is understandable she get upset someone was recording her. Not saying you shouldn't have just explaining her side.

2. Mousey never said you said she was faking sick she said someone who she did not specify sent her that accusation in addition to the death threats she was getting

That said here is my gatherings on what her statement included

1. According to a comment at some point before Flam tuned in she reiterated a danger to the VS talents stemming from the Swatter the comment didn't elaborate so idk if she did

2. VS management tells the girls NOT to make a statement about the swatter when the talents were informed this on top of the existence of the swatter understandably majorly fucked with Mouse's and the others mental health. Citing sleepless nights etc...
So seems VS' talent first motto is out the window because Mousey feared for her place in the company should she speak out

Again Flam is muting and pausing to add his own commentary so the next thing i heard was mousey saying

3. Mousey says that she had a falling out with Nux that has since been resolved months ago. She didn't elaborate but whatever it was caused her to distance herself from him and not talk for those months in the hopes he would continue to flourish and make more friends without her. She said she didn't hate him or anything and that she believes he is a good person

(but whatever it was was bad enough to not necessarily end the friendship but drift apart i guess and just stop talking)
When Nux dropped the video someone told her "you gotta talk to him. Its gotta be you." Presumably because they didn't know Mouse wasn't on speaking terms with him

To be continued i gotta go back to work

I mentioned the back and forth last night, didn't know about the stuff before having issues. And the back and forth made everything worse, with her chat lying about him and his chat lying about her and it just spiraled out of control.

I wonder if #2 is part of the reason why she said they were victims too. It feels like there's a lot of context as to why the girls said what they said that they can't disclose. Mouse also said "oh they just want to cover up the phishing thing it was never about the, phishing thing", unfortunately Flam paused at that part so if there's an archive for full context, that'd be great.

 

[Girlboy69]

I want to point something out, maybe this is grandstanding, maybe I'm being a faggot, idk.

These people who are just responding with "Oh, they apologized privately, just let it go! They don't owe you anything." are dumb and missing the point. They made this situation public, they invited the fanbases into the fray, they absolutely DO owe the fanbase closure. On top of this, people don't know how to feel about these people anymore because if Vshojo are just catty, lying, dramatic cunts, some people don't want to support them. The "just let it go" people are as retarded as the people who keep bringing the issue up.

 

[Nolan Crush]

Lol, Watching this Flam shit and I decided to look up "silvervale blocked" on Twitter and I guess she just goes on blocking rampages.

What a fragile fatass.

Searched the term , https://twitter.com/KjCollins8/status/1465519109819580425 even this guy got blocked. wtf

 

[Girlboy69]

Searched the term, https://twitter.com/KjCollins8/status/1465519109819580425 even this guy got blocked. wtf

I get the feeling Silvervale has lolcow potential if she had the right stimulus.

 

[ChefKiss]

That, and the fact that Melody, her suppose collab partner fuck off to spawn point or get lost for most of the time and stay mostly quiet, and the stream become Ironmouse and Connor stream with Kson happen to tag along. By the time Kson is alone with Melody again, she's practically ready to end the stream. She have no chemistry with the group dynamic of Vshojo at all and really feel like a guest to their server. As a Kson fan to another, yeah the collab is bad, hurting me even (heh)

I've seen people saying Kson would fit with Vshojo and I just dont see it at all. Sure she makes the peepeepoopoo jokes but unlike vshojo that isnt her ENTIRE being nonstop. I actually think vshojo is one of the worst fits for her. She collabs better with Pikamee and Ryugon than with them, same with choco and mel's roommates. Hope to see her collab with HoneyStrap at some point. Still feels like people like Aki, Marine, Miko etc were the best for her sadly

 

[Girlboy69]

Can't wait till Vshojo's second anniversary. Hope Nyanners stirs shit with a foreign government or the Taliban or something.

 

[NuPerezzorcjunmunospolkos]

Well, you know how japanese keep grudges without letting the other party know? Maybe they still haven't recovered after WWII

IIRC Japan doesn't talk about the rape of nanking and still hasn't apologized for it.

 

[Eddie IX]

Gen 6 is scary. How do you even top this group?

Need fanart of Yagoo doing a mic drop, cause that's exactly what Gen6 is.
Announcement and debut out of nowhere, character designs ranging from "good" to "excellent", rigging is fucking phenomenal on all five, and most importantly, the creators themselves are multitalented and seem very promising in general.

THAT WAS SPECTACULAR! I loved it all, the art was wonderful, Milky and Calli both did fantastic, and they worked perfectly together. Banger song too

Nice to see Calli continuing on her mission to bring attention to smaller creators! She's good people, and she certainly has an eye for talent.

I want to point something out, maybe this is grandstanding, maybe I'm being a faggot, idk.

These people who are just responding with "Oh, they apologized privately, just let it go! They don't owe you anything." are dumb and missing the point. They made this situation public, they invited the fanbases into the fray, they absolutely DO owe the fanbase closure. On top of this, people don't know how to feel about these people anymore because if Vshojo are just catty, lying, dramatic cunts, some people don't want to support them. The "just let it go" people are as retarded as the people who keep bringing the issue up.

I don't know if I'd use the word "owe", but if you boil the situation down a bit...

1. Vshojo bitches about Nux's video in public
2. Nux slaps back in public
3. Nux apologizes in public
4. Vshojo claims they've apologized in private

...then you see something's not quite adding up, there.

 

[grenskul]

I want to point something out, maybe this is grandstanding, maybe I'm being a faggot, idk.

These people who are just responding with "Oh, they apologized privately, just let it go! They don't owe you anything." are dumb and missing the point. They made this situation public, they invited the fanbases into the fray, they absolutely DO owe the fanbase closure. On top of this, people don't know how to feel about these people anymore because if Vshojo are just catty, lying, dramatic cunts, some people don't want to support them. The "just let it go" people are as retarded as the people who keep bringing the issue up.

Yes you are being a faggot but I also completely agree.

 

[Girlboy69]

Need fanart of Yagoo doing a mic drop, cause that's exactly what Gen6 is.
Announcement and debut out of nowhere, character designs ranging from "good" to "excellent", rigging is fucking phenomenal on all five, and most importantly, the creators themselves are multitalented and seem very promising in general.


Nice to see Calli continuing on her mission to bring attention to smaller creators! She's good people, and she certainly has an eye for talent.


I don't know if I'd use the word "owe", but if you boil the situation down a bit...

1. Vshojo bitches about Nux's video in public
2. Nux slaps back in public
3. Nux apologizes in public
4. Vshojo claims they've apologized in private

...then you see something's not quite adding up, there.

I would say owe. If you, as an influencer with a fanbase, publicly start shit and cause your fans to lose their cool and go at other people's throats and look like fools, yes, you owe them closure if not an apology to them as well but at the least, you owe them closure.

 

[masterstocking]

Menu — KIARA FRIED PHOENIX

kiarafriedphoenix.com

I always appreciate a gag, especially when someone goes all in on it. I just stumbled across this site, and found it to be quite funny (don't kill me if you already knew about it).

'The Sauce Bar' and 'Meet our executive team' are especially...uh, interesting.




In more musical news, this looks too fucking good



Yeah, I really like this artist's style

 

[Tor Lugosi]

Menu — KIARA FRIED PHOENIX

kiarafriedphoenix.com

I always appreciate a gag, especially when someone goes all in on it. I just stumbled across this site, and found it to be quite funny (don't kill me if you already knew about it).

'The Sauce Bar' and 'Meet our executive team' are especially...uh, interesting.

Gura the Exceptional Cashier

did a kiwi help with this site

 

[Takodachi]

Flamenco has an account here, doesnt he?
I just wanna yell at him for being a fucking retard and give his garbage takes while mousey is explaining shit live.

 

[What Bubble]

I can't reply to you but the time seems to overlap with this https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1219731789?t=1h0m30s
It's not the Mouse VOD in question is it?