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Rhialtokourai said:
My thoughts:
- Reminder (for those who were using their brain space for more important things) that the IDs also use Streamelements and in late November gained a payment platform that allowed donations directly in IDR, so SCs alone don't account for all of their SC-type earnings.
- Also surprised by Mumei but nothing to add to points raised.
- For Lui, agreed with most posts. One other theory that was raised before was JP xenophobia (she has all but outright stated at various points that she's hafu, even without going into her past life). I think it's plausible, but to believe it I'd have to see what JP antis are saying and I don't know where to look even if I could read moonrunes and wanted more brain damage.
- Iroha being second in HoloX surprised me, because she had the only halfway normal debut and her on-stream presence isn't weaponised like Sakamata's is. But in hindsight her specific combination of skills and her personality are fairly unique within Hololive. Lasting a month and counting as "The Last Seiso" is worth something.

@SmugPeko did anon cut off the Niji numbers at 60? Would be nice to see Ethyria and Luxiem's numbers.
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Im pretty sure that list from anon is from playboard and he just seperates them by company.
 
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Rhialtokourai said:
@SmugPeko did anon cut off the Niji numbers at 60? Would be nice to see Ethyria and Luxiem's numbers.
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It would be interesting to see those numbers. I would assume that Nina is top by a fair amount followed by Millie. Guessing Reimu and Enna to have about half as much in superchats as Nina.
 
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- Iroha being second in HoloX surprised me, because she had the only halfway normal debut and her on-stream presence isn't weaponised like Sakamata's is. But in hindsight her specific combination of skills and her personality are fairly unique within Hololive. Lasting a month and counting as "The Last Seiso" is worth something.
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Iroha really grew on me. I don't know it's the underdog image or whatever but I like her voice (can't put my finger on it what it is) and her endearing personality. It's always funny when she is teased by chat or other members.
Right now she has a "seiso battle" with rushia
Edit: Lol Iroha had to play the tutorial first since she hasn't played it yet
 
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Chloe is currently having a New Year's Getting Over It run, has had some big spills; other than that, she seems fairly competent at it. I'd guess she has beaten it a few times. (non-expert opinion, even though I have beaten it >100 times)

Yes, I probably have pipkin, how did you know?
E: Orca is a bit of a panic flail type. Also, she reminds me of a squeaky toy; can be fun, but depending on volume and frequency, headache inducing. She's going into space now. E2:
1641117715342.png E3: Her ending is still something
 
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Azchan said:
It would be interesting to see those numbers. I would assume that Nina is top by a fair amount followed by Millie. Guessing Reimu and Enna to have about half as much in superchats as Nina.
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NijiEN SC ranking, going off of Playboard:

1. Pomu Rainpuff (Lazulight) - $163,666
2. Selen Tatsuki (Obsydia) - $122,104
3. Elira Pendora (Lazulight) - $119,462
4. Rosemi Lovelock (Obsydia) - $71,594
5. Millie Parfait (Ethyria) - $65,884
6. Finana Ryugu (Lazulight) - $65,645
7. Nina Kosaka (Ethyria) - $48,462
8. Petra Gurin (Obsydia) - $47,162
9. Enna Alouette (Ethyria) - $34,421
10. Reimu Endou (Ethyria) - $29,876
11. Vox Akuma (Luxiem) - $17,447
12. Mysta Rias (Luxiem) - $12,947
13. Luca Kaneshiro (Luxiem) - $9,969
14. Shu Yamino (Luxiem) - $9,602
15. Ike Eveland (Luxiem) - $4,007

Overall, nothing too surprising. Pomu is the SC queen of Nijisanji, and has been from the get-go, with the dragons in second and third. Millie's SC earning ability has gone somewhat unnoticed by most, as despite having view counts that are on the lower end of NijiEN she's a very solid earner. Nina is the most succesful Ethyria member in terms of views, but Millie leads when it comes to superchats. Luxiem are all at the bottom of the list, but they've been only active for little over a week so that's to be expected. Anecdotally I've also seen them bringing in more in Streamlabs than I remember seeing for the other waves shortly after their debuts. I do feel like they missed out a bit in not making their monetization debut streams into bigger deals, but they will overtake the lower-ranked girls, probably sooner rather than later.
 
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Azchan said:
She is Chinese or at least her parents seem to be. Maybe she is trying to appeal to the Chinese similar to how Millie has a strong Filipino audience and Nina has a strong Russian crowd. I consider her to be one of the most talented in that generation yet her views/subs are one of the lowest.
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She is Japanese-born to Chinese immigrants. Also, believe it or not, Enna actually has the highest viewer:subscriber ratio in the branch right now. A lot of her gaming streams have been doing Elira/Pomu numbers with less than half the subs.

Azchan said:
It would be interesting to see those numbers. I would assume that Nina is top by a fair amount followed by Millie. Guessing Reimu and Enna to have about half as much in superchats as Nina.
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The list provided is maybe a couple of days outdated as, according to Playboard, Millie would now be in the Top 60.

Ethyria numbers (Debut: Oct 2021):
Millie Parfait - 121K subs - $65,884
Nina Kosaka - 146K subs - $48,462
Enna Alouette - 101K subs - $35,529
Reimu Endou - 94K subs - $29,897

Worthy of note that NijiEN typically have Streamlabs active until they're granted YT monetisation, so everyone is higher than what's displayed here to an unknown degree. Millie quietly pulling mid-low Council/High HoloID numbers in a little over 2 months is quite striking. In general, all of them are doing really well despite having basically zero foothold on the EN market when LazuLight came out.
 
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Rushia yab screen cap courtesy of /vt/.
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Asking moonrune experts, is there something funny in the screen or just boring channel names?

Scuttle said:
She is Japanese-born to Chinese immigrants. Also, believe it or not, Enna actually has the highest viewer:subscriber ratio in the branch right now. A lot of her gaming streams have been doing Elira/Pomu numbers with less than half the subs.
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Her playthrough of DetroitBH is really entertaining, it's the first time that I've had notifications on for gameplay streams. She's ending it today probably.
 
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Scuttle said:
She is Japanese-born to Chinese immigrants. Also, believe it or not, Enna actually has the highest viewer:subscriber ratio in the branch right now. A lot of her gaming streams have been doing Elira/Pomu numbers with less than half the subs.


The list provided is maybe a couple of days outdated as, according to Playboard, Millie would now be in the Top 60.

Ethyria numbers (Debut: Oct 2021):
Millie Parfait - 121K subs - $65,884
Nina Kosaka - 146K subs - $48,462
Enna Alouette - 101K subs - $35,529
Reimu Endou - 94K subs - $29,897

Worthy of note that NijiEN typically have Streamlabs active until they're granted YT monetisation, so everyone is higher than what's displayed here to an unknown degree. Millie quietly pulling mid-low Council/High HoloID numbers in a little over 2 months is quite striking. In general, all of them are doing really well despite having basically zero foothold on the EN market when LazuLight came out.
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So again, subs =/= superchats. But with Gura and Mumei the prevailing theory is that their subs are younger people with no credit cards (and that Gura doesn't incentivise SCs; though Mumei does). I hardly think this applies to Nina, so I wonder what's happening there.
 
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Scuttle said:
She is Japanese-born to Chinese immigrants. Also, believe it or not, Enna actually has the highest viewer:subscriber ratio in the branch right now. A lot of her gaming streams have been doing Elira/Pomu numbers with less than half the subs.


The list provided is maybe a couple of days outdated as, according to Playboard, Millie would now be in the Top 60.

Ethyria numbers (Debut: Oct 2021):
Millie Parfait - 121K subs - $65,884
Nina Kosaka - 146K subs - $48,462
Enna Alouette - 101K subs - $35,529
Reimu Endou - 94K subs - $29,897

Worthy of note that NijiEN typically have Streamlabs active until they're granted YT monetisation, so everyone is higher than what's displayed here to an unknown degree. Millie quietly pulling mid-low Council/High HoloID numbers in a little over 2 months is quite striking. In general, all of them are doing really well despite having basically zero foothold on the EN market when LazuLight came out.
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I mean playboard list is a yearly one so if you get your SC after dec 31 it will not count.
 
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Azchan said:
Yeah given how many people seem to lose their shit over Mumei I thought she would be the top of her gen. I feel like she attracts a younger audience like Gura. The same audience which doesn't have a credit card or the means to drop super chats. This is all speculation but it would be nice if you could see their demographic information.


They really need to fix her open mouth. I guess the japanese eat up the cutesy shit.




1. Uruha Rushia - $1,687,348
2. Kiryu Coco - $1,489,485
3. Yukihana Lamy - $992,666
4. Usada Pekora - $908,973
5. Amane Kanata - $901,033
6. Houshou Marine - $881,214
7. Mori Calliope - $854,824
8. Momosuzu Nene - $740,342
9. Takanashi Kiara - $721,452
10. Tsunomaki Watame - $653,451

Pekora, Marine, Rushia are in the top 10 hours watched.
Kiara, Lamy, Rushiam Watame, Pekora have the top 10 longest streams (guessing super chat readings come into play which usually motivates people to donate)
Kiara and Callie have a decently sized JP following because in part they speak a bit of Japanese

Never really understood Coco's hype, I found her content to be mediocre even though I understand her importance to the company as a whole. Her graduation stream broke the metrics though. The ones on the list I don't really get are Nene and Kanata. Nene is a fucking dork and I love her but I didn't expect her to be so high on the list. Kanata interacts with chat probably the most out of all of the other girls I have seen but I also didn't expect her to be so high on the list.



Astel beat Jump King
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From Pippa's earlier stream with Tenma.
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Another thing with Nene is how she lagged so far behind her genmates before suddenly blowing up in popularity. I still haven't been able to pin down why this happened, but it might have to do with how she's basically an eternal 11 year old in terms of personality.
 
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Wolfy Wise said:
Another thing with Nene is how she lagged so far behind her genmates before suddenly blowing up in popularity. I still haven't been able to pin down why this happened, but it might have to do with how she's basically an eternal 11 year old in terms of personality.
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The first big incline for nene is when she change her base outfit. Also she have lots of clips about her "husbands". Then after that she is doing what an idol do on fanmeet writing signature /name in her picture for those who give superchat which sometimes last for 3-4hrs atleast
 
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