General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Fucking YTs]

If you were on the internet from the 90's into the early 2000's this will be a familiar experience.

As someone who had a top prank phone call website listed in the Yahoo! Directory... I feel it.

 

[teapot]

Everyone talking about how you may have to use vt as an alternative makes me want to reveal that I've been lurking on the vtuber thread on resetera whenever this site is offline. It will never compare to here and you can't say jackshit, but as far as an active thread about vtubers goes, that one is pretty active.

being there kinda feels like what I assume feels like to try to kick off heroin with something else, this thread being heroin in this case.

anyway if there's an alternative to this thread I would like to know too, you can send me a pm.

 

[Retink]

As dire as things may be, I can't help but laugh that I'm forced to use the dark web to call people gay on the Internet and to talk about anime girls. Society has gotten to the point where actual criminals have an easier time doing their thing than shitposters on the Internet.

 

[takowednesday]

lets all calm down and relax with some good old fashioned tako time:

 

[Gondola Enjoyer]

As dire as things may be, I can't help but laugh that I'm forced to use the dark web to call people gay on the Internet and to talk about anime girls. Society has gotten to the point where actual criminals have an easier time doing their thing than shitposters on the Internet.

Not even the most grimdank, tryhard, 80s cyberpunk fiction compares to just how utterly fucking gay the cyberpunk dystopia we're living in truly is.

 

[Hotdogs Aplenty]

In vtuber news Eira Woolcott https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1581780595 got permanently suspended from twitter due to threats?

https://twitter.com/eira_ch/

 

[Fucking YTs]

I started browsing the web with a 33.6 kbps modem (that's kilobits per second, not kilobytes), Tor is extremely speedy in comparison.

Yeah, same. My friend had a pirate BBS that I'd overnight download Doom / Sim City 2000 from there. I also had a Commadore 64 when I was a kid and an 8086 as an early teenager that I wrote choose-your-own-adventure games in Basic. Fun times.

 

[Retink]

Not even the most grimdank, tryhard, 80s cyberpunk fiction compares to just how utterly fucking gay the cyberpunk dystopia we're living in truly is.

At least Minority Report in theory was stopping those who were going to commit violent crimes, meanwhile we've hit the point where gossiping on a website is too much for society's sensibilities. Not even Demolition Man went to that level of absurdity as they'd just give you a ticket for naughty words, not accuse you of terrorism that made Osama look like a mentally disabled child.

 

[Fucking YTs]

If you need to be sold on poa.st, here you go.

 

[kestraline]

Sorry I took forever on downloading Brave and getting back on here.

Here's an alternative for a while - there's an inactive vtuber board on https://boards.baked.live/chuubas/ - a great opportunity.

Why don't we populate that for a while? It's not ideal but we could basically turn it into the vtuber thread for a while until there's something else up and running. It'd also be easier to attract people to going there instead of having to chop up onions and shit. We make a bunch of threads, we talk about our tubers, we have a good time? You know?

And because of how obscure it is right now, it's not likely to get hit up by /vt/ shitters or other bad actors.

Let's start with a Pippa thread - https://boards.baked.live/chuubas/res/59.html

Maybe can make a general chuubas thread as well? Or make a few standard things like holo / niji / etc.

 

[Sanshain]

Sorry I took forever on downloading Brave and getting back on here.

Here's an alternative for a while - there's an inactive vtuber board on https://boards.baked.live/chuubas/ - a great opportunity.

Why don't we populate that for a while? It's not ideal but we could basically turn it into the vtuber thread for a while until there's something else up and running. It'd also be easier to attract people to going there instead of having to chop up onions and shit. We make a bunch of threads, we talk about our tubers, we have a good time? You know?

And because of how obscure it is right now, it's not likely to get hit up by /vt/ shitters or other bad actors.

As another person kindly mentioned, I'm working on something right now. As I told them; it would be a simple matter to create a basic free forum to mess around with templates and ideas + have normal discussions on, then transition to something more stable and filled out. I prefer not to make hard commitments without community input, or I'd go ahead and make something right away.

 

[thhrang]

Gonna throw my hat into the ring regarding the idea of an actual splinter forum. I like the concept, and I think it could probably be feasibly done, but I do have some concerns that I'm curious to see what you guys think about.
I feel like the current thread is kinda protected due to it being directly part of the Farms, with the stigma that directly comes with it, and Jersh's refusal to back down to almost anything or anyone. We are essentially a large side-show attraction attached to the rest of the site like a tumor. If a split-off to a standalone VTuber forum were to happen, I'm worried that there would be a decently likely chance it would grow beyond just the Kiwi userbase and start attracting direct attention from the VTuber community at large & 'undesirables' (re: Twitter) in a capacity that this thread specifically hasn't really ever had to deal with - which, in time, could eventually lead to a Keffals-esque campaign to try and pressure whatever splinter into going down. We already know that there are a fuckton of retarded VTubers - and even more retarded fans - who would probably actually try and do this. So basically what I'm trying to say is that whoever leads it would have to be insanely strong-willed and determined like our Dear Feeder has been. And that can take balls.
This isn't even mentioning the potential scenario of companies harassing any splinter with DMCAs/takedown notices if people start talking in ways they don't like/'''doxing.''' Like, for example, Phase-Connect already tried to take down a post here once before and seemingly only backed off because of Josh's instant dismissal and refusal to bow down to intimidation, but who's to say that they wouldn't ever try and go after posts again on a splinter forum that could potentially lack that protection/reputation and strong leader? These kinds of things could happen.

 

[kestraline]

As another person kindly mentioned, I'm working on something right now. As I told them; it would be a simple matter to create a basic free forum to mess around with templates and ideas + have normal discussions on, then transition to something more stable and filled out. I prefer not to make hard commitments without community input, or I'd go ahead and make something right away.

All I'd say is avoid free hosted forum places like the plague unless you want to get TOS'd.

Better just installing MyBB which has a good range of plugins and is easily accessible and can be hosted without fuss.

My suggestion of /chuubas/ was more of a temporary hangout until something permanent can be figured out, or the farms are fully up and running without issues again.

 

[FlappyBat]

The only place worth talking about v-tubers is on the fucking dark web. No one could have ever guessed the modern world would be this retarded. Josh has sacrificed more than could be asked of anyone in the name of just being able to fucking talk and I'm very grateful to have been able to benefit from that. If the farms eventually goes under, this thread has been a real pleasure.

 

[Nevermore Fish]

Gonna throw my hat into the ring regarding the idea of an actual splinter forum. I like the concept, and I think it could probably be feasibly done, but I do have some concerns that I'm curious to see what you guys think about.
I feel like the current thread is kinda protected due to it being directly part of the Farms, with the stigma that directly comes with it, and Jersh's refusal to back down to almost anything or anyone. We are essentially a large side-show attraction attached to the rest of the site like a tumor. If a split-off to a standalone VTuber forum were to happen, I'm worried that there would be a decently likely chance it would grow beyond just the Kiwi userbase and start attracting direct attention from the VTuber community at large & 'undesirables' (re: Twitter) in a capacity that this thread specifically hasn't really ever had to deal with - which, in time, could eventually lead to a Keffals-esque campaign to try and pressure whatever splinter into going down. We already know that there are a fuckton of retarded VTubers - and even more retarded fans - who would probably actually try and do this. So basically what I'm trying to say is that whoever leads it would have to be insanely strong-willed and determined like our Dear Feeder has been. And that can take balls.
This isn't even mentioning the potential scenario of companies harassing any splinter with DMCAs/takedown notices if people start talking in ways they don't like/'''doxing.''' Like, for example, Phase-Connect already tried to take down a post here once before and seemingly only backed off because of Josh's instant dismissal and refusal to bow down to intimidation, but who's to say that they wouldn't ever try and go after posts again on a splinter forum that could potentially lack that protection/reputation and strong leader? These kinds of things could happen.

Too much "thinking about it" is unnecessary. Someone should just do it and we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. As for the dangers we'd face ? Just tell them to shove off, and we're far enough removed from the farms that almost no one would mess with us.
And if they bothered, most services wouldn't cave in just because of the affiliation. All the service would see are a bunch of online autists discussing anime women.

 

[Iox]

Gonna throw my hat into the ring regarding the idea of an actual splinter forum. I like the concept, and I think it could probably be feasibly done, but I do have some concerns that I'm curious to see what you guys think about.
I feel like the current thread is kinda protected due to it being directly part of the Farms, with the stigma that directly comes with it, and Jersh's refusal to back down to almost anything or anyone. We are essentially a large side-show attraction attached to the rest of the site like a tumor. If a split-off to a standalone VTuber forum were to happen, I'm worried that there would be a decently likely chance it would grow beyond just the Kiwi userbase and start attracting direct attention from the VTuber community at large & 'undesirables' (re: Twitter) in a capacity that this thread specifically hasn't really ever had to deal with - which, in time, could eventually lead to a Keffals-esque campaign to try and pressure whatever splinter into going down. We already know that there are a fuckton of retarded VTubers - and even more retarded fans - who would probably actually try and do this. So basically what I'm trying to say is that whoever leads it would have to be insanely strong-willed and determined like our Dear Feeder has been. And that can take balls.
This isn't even mentioning the potential scenario of companies harassing any splinter with DMCAs/takedown notices if people start talking in ways they don't like/'''doxing.''' Like, for example, Phase-Connect already tried to take down a post here once before and seemingly only backed off because of Josh's instant dismissal and refusal to bow down to intimidation, but who's to say that they wouldn't ever try and go after posts again on a splinter forum that could potentially lack that protection/reputation and strong leader? These kinds of things could happen.

Agreed, it's a very idea, but I'd like to at least try. Certain measures like the third party viewing tag, invite referrals, and that the fact that the content won't be nearly as inflammatory as the regular content on KF can help mitigate it, I'm hoping that we can find a workaround for it.

Btw, again for any updates for the forum if KF suddenly dies
My account: https://poa.st/@Oxough
Sanshain's account: https://poa.st/@ZDFR

 

[Sanshain]

This isn't even mentioning the potential scenario of companies harassing any splinter with DMCAs/takedown notices if people start talking in ways they don't like/'''doxing.''' Like, for example, Phase-Connect already tried to take down a post here once before and seemingly only backed off because of Josh's instant dismissal and refusal to bow down to intimidation, but who's to say that they wouldn't ever try and go after posts again on a splinter forum that could potentially lack that protection/reputation and strong leader? These kinds of things could happen.

I'm aware such things could potentially happen, and I genuinely don't care. I hate the mainstream about as much as Null does at this point. Any threats to any platform I created and moderated would be fundamental, I.E places dropping or terminating us. I've been taught very directly and personally over the time I've been on this forum that compromise is always a slippery slope, always.

Plus beyond that, anything that could potentially count as 'doxing' could just be stored off site. We already have rabid archivists here. And honestly there isn't even that much to archive. Nobody here is actively malicious towards vtubers anyway. We're appreciators, not detractors. And with stuff like Lia, how often has it come up since? Nobody here has even hinted at malicious dislike of her, or anyone. The worst I've ever seen in this thread is some stupid random asking what slur would be best to call the trans shark before getting banned from his Discord.

Let's face it, guys. We're pretty fucking milquetoast.

 

[Machoking]

If we had our own forum we could spread out a bit, a holo thread, a niji thread, small corpo, indie, etc. I'm mainly a niji en fan so that would save me a lot of skimming.

 

[Renmai]

If you were on the internet from the 90's into the early 2000's this will be a familiar experience.

You're not wrong, your post brought me back to when I had to learn all this weird computer stuff like irc, fserves, xdcc bots and newsgroups to download Ranma 1/2 fansubs the size of Post-it notes you had to squint at to read..

 

[moonlight]

I'm aware such things could potentially happen, and I genuinely don't care. [...]

Let's face it, guys. We're pretty fucking milquetoast.

I was going to agree with @thhrang that these risk would definitely be something to keep in mind, but if that is your attitude and you think you will be fine, I respect that.

And I agree that the vast majority of the discussion in this thread would probably be a-okay in other places that can deal with the bluntness, hyperbole, and occasional slur.