General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

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Gura is next level, but Kiara is still pretty good and Calli has her rap to fall back on but she does have trouble hitting notes; always has, even as Dice. She keeps her range very small deliberately.

Amelia's singing is charming it its own way as "that one friend who really loves singing but has all the musicality of an amputee" while Ina probably views her singing as being flatter than her chest.
The one thing I can appreciate about /hlgg/ is that it doesn't matter how bad a chuuba's singing is, they recognize they're just trying to entertain and have a good time and support them as much as they can. It's surprisingly wholesome.

That, and I do love when Kiara sings, /hlgg/ is flooded with "CHICKEN, RELEASE YOUR LIMITERS" and posts clips from when she performed as Keeki. I know she wants to protect her 'normal' voice, but you can tell her singing ability takes a hit by singing with her Kiara voice as well.

Edit: Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ Ina is KILLING IT with those covers of TOKYO and Reason.

Double Edit: For anyone who wants more Karaoke, Polka is singing right now too.
 
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I'm just getting to the thread myself so, wall of text incoming

I wanted to ask someone lurking in more servers than just Kiara's about her fans, actually. I've looked in the #stream_chat channel on that server during her streams, and I might as well be watching the YouTube chat because they don't seem to understand that dumbass she can't even read this it's on discord. If the chat were usable, I'd be commented with the other discord users about the stream, but they're trying to talk to Kiara or something. Is that a thing on all their unofficial fan servers, or are Kiara's fans just extra exceptional?

Then there's the sheer number of KFP-related usernames I see, both on YT and on discord. Do tons of those exist for all the HoloMyth members and I'm just missing them because I can't keep up with all 5? Or, again, are Kiara fans just extra exceptional? I mean like someone has their youtube username suffixed with "KFP ceiling fan" or something dumb like that.

First off all the Holo EN Discords are a bit special from what I can see. They feel more like twitch chat than the other holo servers. You'll note all the HoloJP Discords ban twitch emotes where HoloEN ones don't. I don't really care either way but that rule is a good flag for the type of chat culture you'll have there. The Kiara fan server's discord chat is about the same as any other discord chat with a lot of people in it. The main holoserver gets that way too, minus the twitch-chat culture thing I mentioned above. I don't find the EN discords as useful for stream chat like I do JP since with JP an English fan discord gives you a place to ask things in English without being obnoxious or drowned out. Also if you watch someone who doesn't believe in schedules like Korone the fan discords are pretty helpful to get some advanced warning of streams.

The KFP name thing you see is just people being silly and memeing. One of Kiara's schticks/running gags is joining the membership is you become a KFP employee, where you pay her to work there. Some people like to come up with jokey job titles for a laugh. Someone literally made themselves a sticky note and made a twitter account for it, for example. Oh yeah, and they're all chickens and Kiara's going to eat them all in two years when their membership badges go from eggs to buckets of fried chicken.

In some adjacent news, some people have been doomposting about Twitch's updated harassment policy. This includes banning on the basis of sexual misconduct related to insulting someone's sexual morality; basically, you can get banned for calling someone a simp. Considering how ubiquitous this word is among the vtuber community to the point where it's not even offensive, I'd keep an eye out for people going fucking ballistic over this change.

EDIT: For context, here's the full policy.

And for the relevant clause so you don't have to look around for that shit, this is what people are referring to as the simp ban. It also bans shit like "incel" and the policy in general is a lot of "no horny allowed" which is the bread and butter of a lot of shitty vtubers. I'm predicting a lot of doomposting about this soon.

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This just seems to be Twitch moving to protect their Twitch Thot money machine. I can't really see it being twisted to applying to calling people simps but regardless of whatever the letter of any policy Twitch writes we all know what way they skew and that they'll selectively enforce their guidelines regardless of what the letter of the policy actually says. The same way they've come out publicly and said smoking marijuana on stream in the USA is ok despite it still being a federal crime and the letter of their policies would ban it. (Not that I care, it shouldn't be a crime, just pointing out the inconsistency between policy and action.) Or how they choose winners and losers with their banned games lists and ban some things that don't violate guidelines and allow other things that do.

Today news on the ongoing ching being salty at anime girls. FBK, Botan, and Okayu was suppose to have an official sponsored collab with Republic of Gaming tonight, but was attacked by the RoG in China and have to cancelled it. Link to reddit because I'm lazy af.

Holyfucking shit, and it's the official account that staged the raid!? What a fucking total loser the chinks are....Thats real unprofessional
In any other part of the world that is not China, that's your job bye-bye. What a fucking loser...

Interesting. Asus is a Taiwanese company, but maybe their Chinese branch brings in enough yuan that they're gonna get away with that little stunt. The political machinations of this young industry continue to fascinate me.

The powerplay got the CN Asus manager fired at the very least.
https://msearch.51job.com/jobs/shanghai-bsq/125282247.html

CN branches or heads of branches in CN going rogue seems to be a bit of a trend. You're all familiar with the CN branch of COVER going a bit rouge which was part of the mess they had. ARM had the head of there CN Branch refuse to leave when he was fired and he hired armed security to ensure he stayed there. I would go so far to say it seems to me that these branches know the CCP will basically run interference for them if they want it as long as they benefit the CCP. They want to keep those companies and their tech in their hands, they don't want the worldwide companies removing their CN branches and will take steps to ensure they stay in China..

What's everyone's opinion on the watch-alongs? I recently watched Gura & Ame's Die Hard one and found it kinda dull. MST3K and Rifftrax definitely colored my expectations a lot but I guess I was expecting more actual commentary.

Do you like the streamer? Would you watch them in a chat stream? If so you'll probably like a movie watch along. None of them is going to be like MST3K or Rifftrax. None of them are that good and MST3K/Rifftrax had decades to hone that craft and even then it often wasn't being done live on a blind watch.

If you understand Japanese, then Korone's watchalongs are apparently top tier. Aside from her usual happy self, she has outed herself to be a massive film buff and will watch anything in her free time, no matter how obscure. She also kinda knows how the language of film works despite not really studying it, so she's a lot smarter than she lets on.

You also end up watching weird obscure stuff. Korone's said she wants to watch stuff like The Green Hornet or I Spit on your Grave on stream. She's limited by what's streaming. If she could broadcast the movies herself we'd probably be watching obscure stuff like Godfrey Ho or something. I think Korone may be Brad Jones' spirit animal.

Chat teasing/bullying Kiara during her Ryza stream last night was pretty great. Someone finally pointed out to her she'd been pronouncing "Thighs" as "ties", and not the correct way. Led to a whole tangent of trying to tell her all the ways she was pronouncing words wrong. The highlight for me though was after an offhand joke about her butt hurting and using the chat as chair, someone brought up the time she broke Subaru's trash can. Kiara felt the need to diagram out how it was the shitty trashcan's fault, and not her giant trash compactor ass that did the deed.

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Yeah it was a lot of fun. Bulli birb is one of KFP's favorite past times. This isn't the first time they've teased her about her pronunciations either, though this is the first time I can remember it really becoming such a big chunk of the stream. I find her mispronunciation of some words is part of the charm. And her pronunciation on the whole is very good. No real noticeable accent. It actually makes when she does stumble stand out more.

Some autists have wondered why the heck she is a half-elf when her ears are longer than the other two elves hololive has, in the olde book she would be a wood elve at best, same as Ollie, zombies dont talk in the olde book

Dark elves are mostly portrayed as edge lords with pale skin, in D&D the description of Wood elves is word by word what Flare looks like

You have to go to a much older book to figure out why Flare would be half dark-elf/drow and not wood elf. Specifically back to around 1986 when elf was a class in AD&D1. Back then Record of Loddoss war in Compile magazine was doing the heavy lifting of introducing Japan to D&D through their replay series that became a series of games, manga, ovas, tv series, etc. I still can't determine if they were using Basic or Advanced D&D. They did try to make this a D&D setting but that ultimately failed and it instead spawned the RPG Sword World of which Lodoss is an island in the overall setting. (I can't say more than that because there's very little translation of Sword World in any edition. It's still published today though,) Pirotess, a drow, was portrayed as having tan skin rather than the dark gray/bluish they have in the west. They're also usually called dark elves rather than Drow because Drow is a TSR/WOTC/Hasbro trademark depending on what year we're talking. The portrayal of drow/dark elves as having tan skin has stuck ever since then in anime and manga. So, based on Flare's appearance she's likely meant to be half-drow. But, of course being bastadarized anime conventions they don't follow the D&D lore too well at all and are usually just portrayed as the "bad" elves, or just hating their lighter-skinned cousins. Depending on setting sometimes they live underground, sometimes swamps. Usually they're portrayed as being more magically inclined and less in tune with nature.
 
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Polka seems to have forgotten to take her Ritalin. It’s a lot of fun, but she’s devolving into just random strings of sound at this point.
 
Just a random question as someone who just watches this all from afar, but I don't see any of the vtubers having done a karaoke of the song Sukiyaki. Compared to something like Plastic Love I would think it would be just as popular a choice given how it even reached #1 in the USA.
 
Just a random question as someone who just watches this all from afar, but I don't see any of the vtubers having done a karaoke of the song Sukiyaki. Compared to something like Plastic Love I would think it would be just as popular a choice given how it even reached #1 in the USA.
Sukiyaki was a very old song, and even then the original title and song has nothing to with Sukiyaki. Pretty sure the song is more known and loved outside of Japan, especially in the US back during the time of Japanophile boom
 
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re upload if someone missed Ina's karaoke stream.

Looks like the doxx discord server was taken down, people have been kicked out and all invites are expired.

Good, they were starting to get full of themselves, they acted as if they digged all the info by hand when it was just reposts from other JP sites.
 
Didn’t they already have Cities: Skylines permission?

I have someone from Paradox on my Steam friends’ list and I’m so tempted to PM him and ask him to get Hololive approval for C:S. I will still wathc, but poor Botan.
That EA permits being milked for all its worth but i was halfway expecting to be Moona or Flare considering their record of being architecture spergs

EDIT: LMAO CALLI WHY ARE YOU THIRSTING FOR SEPHIROTH?
 
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That, and I do love when Kiara sings, /hlgg/ is flooded with "CHICKEN, RELEASE YOUR LIMITERS" and posts clips from when she performed as Keeki. I know she wants to protect her 'normal' voice, but you can tell her singing ability takes a hit by singing with her Kiara voice as well.

Coco is the same in that her singing voice is hindered by the character voice she's given herself. If she were to sing as Kson, it wouldn't be nearly as bad as she thinks it is, but she's gotten a lot better with her in-character singing.
 
Good, they were starting to get full of themselves, they acted as if they digged all the info by hand when it was just reposts from other JP sites.
And worse yet, they have the audacity to complain that people are joining in and leaking "their stuffs" to other site. Like fucking hell it's discord, of course you're going to have leaks.
 
I have someone from Paradox on my Steam friends’ list and I’m so tempted to PM him and ask him to get Hololive approval for C:S. I will still wathc, but poor Botan.
I'd love to see Hololive get Paradox permissions, if only to see one of the chuubas go full Deus Vult autism mode in Crusader Kings. The only question is, I don't know which one would fall hard enough down that rabbit hole to do it.
 
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