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Cronchyroll probably was the last on list I imagine to be the first to write article about Amelia’s charity stream.
 
Finally, been far too long.

I was thinking about throwing some of my meaningless opinion in about Callie-trashtaste, only to realize I'm in a camp that don't give a damn. I'm only here for her music and occasional gameplays where she actually enjoy the game. If she do enjoy the TCG, I can only see it as a plus. Spending some time with long-time internet personality might help her become a better streamer too, learning the social cue or conversation card etc.
About gachikoi and Hololive simps, cope harder. Towa probably collab with indie more than Holomems. People aren't up in arm only because they aren't 3D man near their waifu.
 
Nah she mostly was not very deep into it, but probably was on the other side of the road because she was very very excited for the TTRPG session and still is, what she lack is streamer experience, she has never do this before and always go with a very (for some reason) optimism for everything even when EN is cursed with technical difficulties

Not the first time and is because Calli ISP shit and died when trying to connect with Gura, the problem is her internet, notice how almost everyone switched ISPs after their debut for that reason, the only one that has not do it yet is Calli

That's her problem, she has terrible time management skills it was bad 8 months ago with her having two jobs and even when she is now between being Dice and Calli she still has not improved in that regard, she is literally a yes man that always get in everything and get burned in the process
After spending time in other Holofan hangouts, I gotta be honest, the hate trains only really exist here and places like /jp/ and /vt/ where the virginity and autism have to be measured in the gigatons. I'm not saying your hate for Calli and shit is unjustified. What I'm saying is, outside of you, a handful of others here, and the pulsating masses on the 'chans, I think 95% of the Hololive fanbase just simply does not give a flying fuck through a rolling donut about the stuff you guys constantly doompost whenever you feel like chugging the hatorade.

If you hope this shit kills Calli's career and she goes away, I got news for you. She ain't going nowhere. You and the other guys riding all the other the hate trains are a vast minority with very little pull. This goes for the Kiara haters and any other haters, too. You're pissing into the wind.
 
Its pretty clear it reads as people being tired of her giving poorly received streams with people within the company on more than a few occasions, and then one like this where its with someone outside the company and her level of enthusiasm and the quality of the stream in general is much more high. There's not much of a disconnect in viewing that as disrespectful to your coworkers, seniors, and possibly the audience that helped to establish the brand that makes you employed. It might just be me but I don't see the crossover in audience between vtubers and anitubers anyway, that could be a contributing factor. There's petty stuff like "why doesn't she at collab with indies to elevate them rather than collab with someone larger than her" for sure, but there is also this really bizarre level of defensiveness from criticism whenever it involves her or Kiara.
Of course the gaijin would be more enthusiastic to collab with someone that speaks her language and has actually met in person (presumable hung out with a couple of times according to Connor). Bonus points since all she has to do is boot up the game and record discord audio from someone not on the other side of the planet. Personally don’t care who it’s with, I’d rather her do something she’s comfortable with like this or the TTRPG than sit through an hour long awkward collab like Coco or Watame’s EN/JP/ID Chicken Horse where she said like two words. I don’t really see how this is disrespectful to the company since she’s done plenty of collabs, both good and awful, within Hololive.
 
After spending time in other Holofan hangouts, I gotta be honest, the hate trains only really exist here and places like /jp/ and /vt/ where the virginity and autism have to be measured in the gigatons. I'm not saying your hate for Calli and shit is unjustified. What I'm saying is, outside of you, a handful of others here, and the pulsating masses on the 'chans, I think 95% of the Hololive fanbase just simply does not give a flying fuck through a rolling donut about the stuff you guys constantly doompost whenever you feel like chugging the hatorade.

If you hope this shit kills Calli's career and she goes away, I got news for you. She ain't going nowhere. You and the other guys riding all the other the hate trains are a vast minority with very little pull. This goes for the Kiara haters and any other haters, too. You're pissing into the wind.
there is also this really bizarre level of defensiveness from criticism whenever it involves her or Kiara.
Like pottery.
 
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Expand your horizons to bigger rrats. It's also interesting that it's not exactly anti's because those are 2 6 month badges.
Of all the shit being flung, this is probably the only one that holds water.
I just can't shake the feeling that she thinks shes too cool for school because everytime she collabs with genmates she sound shitless bored and disinterested, but then some pajit looking fag comes and she fangirls her ass out.
but there is also this really bizarre level of defensiveness from criticism whenever it involves her or Kiara.
"muh depression" seems to be the universal defense with people like Kiara and Calli

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Some have hate boners, some have declared them their oshi, some are in it for the entertainment. Quite frankly, if its no FBK or Korone, I mostly roll with the punches, zero hate for any of the Hololivers. Can't say the same about Vshojo.

My post was more directed for the retards thinking Calli is doing a disservice and/or that some of her members should be disavowed (like wtf is this shit, putting up a list of members who should be banned/removed from membership) plus pointing out why her streams are hit or miss. It's autistic all around. I've used live stream media for way too long to know it comes with the territory and its one of those "it is what it is" moments. Unfortunately the gachikois don't and you get all this retardation. If everyone mellowed out, just accepted there are gonna be days where the stream is good/bad, alot of/zero technical difficulties, long/short streams, solo/collabs etc etc, the world of Vtubers would be less retarded and maybe a lil more fun.

Anyways, have some lion laughing away at the absurdity that is TABS
 
Not a big fan of connor, but his chemistry with mousey always cracks me up.
Ironmouse's collabs with Connor have actually been a big boon for her since it gives people who don't necessarily watch her streams a good glimpse of her personality outside of her interactions with the other VShoujo girls. She's still profanity-laced as ever but the Connor collab works only because Connor is great playing the normie that shits on you and your takes (which is often the position he takes contra Joey/Garnt in their podcast) and is more than happy to counter and shit on her rather than go along with the "Hee-hee-pee-pee" jokes. It's like watching a great manzai routine, only unscripted.

I don't get why there's much ado about Gigguk being Calli's guest. I do follow Trash Taste regularly, but not so much Garnt and Joey (I do follow Connor's streams). What about them makes some people here pissy? As it stands all I'm seeing is something similar to gachikois being up in arms because they collab with a 3d person/a male guest.
Anitube has long been toxic for years and actually has a lot of crossover audience with vtubing fandom. I'd reckon a lot of the Gigguk hate will only echo the usual reasons people have pointed out about disliking him: he has shit humor, his anime takes suck, his content caters to normies, his previous involvement with Flying Colors Foundation, etc.

In short, his brand of anime autism doesn't appeal to them - they like other brands of anime autism, the "better kind" of the DigiBro/SuperEyepatchWolf/Scamboli/insert-your-favorite-animefaggot-here variety. I've always just liked his content simply because he he's always been self-aware about how shit his taste is and is more than willing to make fun of himself. Which is more than what can be said about the rest of Anitube.

I mean Connor said multiple times during multiple streams that he doesn't think Hololive would let Calli back on Trash Taste again, but didn't elaborate any further.
I'm of the mind that a lot of that has more to do with how much work and involvement the logistics of the in-person guesting is and the cost-benefit of another stint. There's really not much to be gained from a second guest stint and the first guesting on the podcast still rates as one of their most viewed episodes and was great advertising for Cover and its talents - along with establishing a working relationship with Kadokawa/Bookwalker. Cover got everything that they needed off that first guest stint alone. There's no point coming back to it.

Also have to add that the Shadowverse streams are paid promotions and that Gigguk has also been sponsored by Shadowverse before.
 
I don't get why there's much ado about Gigguk being Calli's guest. I do follow Trash Taste regularly, but not so much Garnt and Joey (I do follow Connor's streams). What about them makes some people here pissy? As it stands all I'm seeing is something similar to gachikois being up in arms because they collab with a 3d person/a male guest.
It's split between being an issue of gatekeeping and bursting the Hololive bubble and what could lead to more breaking of kayfabe. I haven't seen anyone getting upset about the purity stuff except for your standard chan/forum bait posts.
 
Parasocial relationships just hit harder when it's a two-way street for internet personalities, specifically the ones like V-Tubers and Twitch Streamers who have constant, direct interaction with their fans via chat. Most of them are just as retarded, immature, and poorly adjusted as everyone else who's terminally online is but now they've got hundreds to thousands of people screaming directly at them instead of the 3 people who disagreed with you on a forum

Probably even worse for the people under 30 get started in the business because they have no other life experience to help them handle stress unless you're some normie like Subaru who just lucked into the job.
 
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Ironmouse's collabs with Connor have actually been a big boon for her since it gives people who don't necessarily watch her streams a good glimpse of her personality outside of her interactions with the other VShoujo girls. She's still profanity-laced as ever but the Connor collab works only because Connor is great playing the normie that shits on you and your takes (which is often the position he takes contra Joey/Garnt in their podcast) and is more than happy to counter and shit on her rather than go along with the "Hee-hee-pee-pee" jokes. It's like watching a great manzai routine, only unscripted.


Anitube has long been toxic for years and actually has a lot of crossover audience with vtubing fandom. I'd reckon a lot of the Gigguk hate will only echo the usual reasons people have pointed out about disliking him: he has shit humor, his anime takes suck, his content caters to normies, his previous involvement with Flying Colors Foundation, etc.

In short, his brand of anime autism doesn't appeal to them - they like other brands of anime autism, the "better kind" of the DigiBro/SuperEyepatchWolf/Scamboli/insert-your-favorite-animefaggot-here variety. I've always just liked his content simply because he he's always been self-aware about how shit his taste is and is more than willing to make fun of himself. Which is more than what can be said about the rest of Anitube.


I'm of the mind that a lot of that has more to do with how much work and involvement the logistics of the in-person guesting is and the cost-benefit of another stint. There's really not much to be gained from a second guest stint and the first guesting on the podcast still rates as one of their most viewed episodes and was great advertising for Cover and its talents - along with establishing a working relationship with Kadokawa/Bookwalker. Cover got everything that they needed off that first guest stint alone. There's no point coming back to it.

Also have to add that the Shadowverse streams are paid promotions and that Gigguk has also been sponsored by Shadowverse before.
Im confused about the flying color foundation
 
I mean I didn't really catch her collab with Gura so I can't take a position either way as to what went wrong/what she can do better but here's my 2 cents: she doesn't really have an obligation to collab with anybody within or outside Hololive. Sure it'd be great if she does, but if she and/or the other party is doing it out of obligation as opposed to because they really just enjoy streaming together, then you get disastrous streams.
In what world under your employers time and the opportunity they're providing for you do you not have an obligation to them? This seems like it would be at the furthest extreme of obligation because its a Japanese company. You can make an argument about how much money she brings in but how much of that can you owe to the brand giving her channel one of the most solid foundations possible. This just seems like the completely wrong company for that type of mindset, obviously its yours though and might not be hers. Just seems like wasted opportunities for everyone involved.
 
I have no clue who this faggot "gigguk" guy is but lol calm down on the turbo-doomposting, you'd think Calli announced an Artemis collab at this point.
As someone who once doomposted about a potential Artemis collab a while back and have since stopped really giving a fuck about that gay ass shit, I almost want just such a collab to happen now if just to see the shitflinging that would result from it.

The downside is that it would probably cause several pages worth of weeping and gnashing of teeth ITT, which is really tiresome at this point.
 
Ironmouse's collabs with Connor have actually been a big boon for her since it gives people who don't necessarily watch her streams a good glimpse of her personality outside of her interactions with the other VShoujo girls. She's still profanity-laced as ever but the Connor collab works only because Connor is great playing the normie that shits on you and your takes (which is often the position he takes contra Joey/Garnt in their podcast) and is more than happy to counter and shit on her rather than go along with the "Hee-hee-pee-pee" jokes. It's like watching a great manzai routine, only unscripted.
He makers a fantastic straight man to her chaotic antics, something that's lacking inside of Vshojo, where chaos is the norm. Zen and Hime/Sydsnap are probably the closest, and it's a reach.
 
. I'm not saying your hate for Calli and shit is unjustified.
I dont hate Calli in any way or form, i dont remember in any of my post saying that i hate her in all the 1xxx pages, the best you are going to find in my posts here is disdain for Vshoujo and Artemis and thats when people barely gives a shit about them

I think 95% of the Hololive fanbase just simply does not give a flying fuck through a rolling donut about the stuff you guys constantly doompost whenever you feel like chugging the hatorade.
>Another one that believe our ironic doomposting

got news for you. She ain't going nowhere. You and the other guys riding all the other the hate trains are a vast minority with very little pull. This goes for the Kiara haters and any other haters, too. You're pissing into the wind.
Again i have never said i hate anyone in HoloEN, no one here seriously hate anyone in there, is like saying we hate the zombie every time she has a meltdown on stream, i dont know from where you got that

As someone who once doomposted about a potential Artemis collab a while back and have since stopped really giving a fuck about that gay ass shit,
Funny that was himself who torpedoed any chance for it, even Uto managed to collab with Hololive and she iirc debuted after him

Anitube has long been toxic for years
Anitube was garbage for years, the usual suspects just irradiated the entire place to be not worth any second, they are so much of a joke that people check the charts of every new season and use it as a bingo for "what serie is going to have a article about how is xxxxxxx-ist", this season no one put their bets because they knew it was going to be Nagatoro and like a atomic clockwork they bitched about it
 
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Im confused about the flying color foundation
It was an allegedly non-profit foundation several years ago that surveyed anime fans in an attempt to get a census of data they can use to work with Japanese anime studios as a middle man to western fans. Pretty much a data harvesting scheme, and it got even more complicated when it was revealed it wanted to get involved with "OtakuCoin" at that time. Just google shit if you want a deeper dive. There are entire long-form articles and threads on the topic.
 
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