Generation Z, "Ironic" Degeneracy, Sadism, and Discord - Not a fun thread

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Why are you giving your own discord tag and calling it a friend's? just talk about it here
Sorry, my friend tried sending this but I’ll explain everything here (because I didn’t want to make an account) but I’ve been apart of the “Larpercore” groups for years now, same as the “christSeVeN” guy, and I don’t like speaking on forums, I have a really bad time with English, but I’ll explain everything in here when I have the chance, sorry for the confusion

why do you keep fucking saying that. skimming the history.txt, why does this remind me of trihard?
Its come to my attention that it isn’t super accurate, one of the cunts in the “Larpercore” community posted this to explain the history, turns out it isn’t accurate, sorry for the confusion again, but the grades list is incredibly accurate of all clans inside of “Larpercore”

The Larpercore wiki has some good information, but over exaggerates some of the information and some is inaccurate, I will be giving a detailed view of my eye witness account, since I’ve been in the community (2020).
 
Its come to my attention that it isn’t super accurate, one of the cunts in the “Larpercore” community posted this to explain the history, turns out it isn’t accurate
I'll just beat you to your explanation so nobody has to touch this topic with a 10 foot pole ever again.

Larpercore:
Larpercore (stylized as LARPercore) is a very dark aesthetic that originated in various underground communities from Discord and TikTok.
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Aesthetics wiki

Brief explanation:
Kids from broken homes who are too emotionally stunted to join an IRL larp community connect with one another online and dress up in a certain way to spite their parents and show off their individuality.

Primary audience:
weens, teens and kids.

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There. Saved the poster I quoted from having to tell us about the group he belongs to and the 2 people who would click off site to read this.

Notice: not to be confused with LARPing, the act of live action Role-playing a theme or setting. These people primarily operate online instead of as a fun get together outside and usually involve themselves in gay online drama or cause gay online drama.

This is larp:
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This is larpercore:
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Sorry, my friend tried sending this but I’ll explain everything here (because I didn’t want to make an account) but I’ve been apart of the “Larpercore” groups for years now, same as the “christSeVeN” guy, and I don’t like speaking on forums, I have a really bad time with English, but I’ll explain everything in here when I have the chance, sorry for the confusion


Its come to my attention that it isn’t super accurate, one of the cunts in the “Larpercore” community posted this to explain the history, turns out it isn’t accurate, sorry for the confusion again, but the grades list is incredibly accurate of all clans inside of “Larpercore”

The Larpercore wiki has some good information, but over exaggerates some of the information and some is inaccurate, I will be giving a detailed view of my eye witness account, since I’ve been in the community (2020).
Alright, I spoke to this guy privately. He isn't a troll, he just messed up and didn't know how to use the site properly. Did something dumb while his messages were awaiting mod approval, I don't know. The files he posted are meaningless and one is a troll copypasta meant to mock the larp 'history' aspect of it.

He'll probably communicate via me now.

Thanks for your patience, everyone.

Kids from broken homes who are too emotionally stunted to join an IRL larp community connect with one another online and dress up in a certain way to spite their parents and show off their individuality.
That's a mischaracterisation of it, imo.

Kind of true if you're thinking about its members, but it isn't really about 'showing individuality' - the groups themselves, in theory, have specific purposes and its members are meant to align with certain 'values'. I'd actually say it's closer to weaponised hivemind mentality than anything. They have this whole culture of 'exiling' certain individuals or whatever.

You're right it has nothing to do with actual irl LARP.
 
Cross-posting this from the Foodist thread. This seems to hit the nail on the head for the groups I have been talking about in this thread. Seems some autism chad has already done quite a lot of work investigating and documenting these people by their symbology.
I've managed to talk to KQ, the person who contributed most of the info in the article. They were really nice and helpful throughout our conversation. Here's all I found out
  • They also work with another guy, Mutiny, you can see his username in the edit section of the article. He is an ex-member of UTTP
  • KQ only lurks on the farms and doesn't have an account here. They primarily watch this thread and Foodist
  • They have fallen into this rabbit hole in 2020-2021 but only started seriously doing research once videos talking about UTTP took off
  • They cyberbullied a musician RejectedReyna, an affiliate of 764 who created a song called Sickfuq-Nation which talks about the group (Ghostarchive), by raiding all of his servers until he closed them
  • @Kanzar Sarsain is a fraud, he's either trolling or maliciously trying to give false information for the sake of confusion
  • They're smart enough not to use the same name multiple times and use secondary accounts
  • The article, as you might expected, angered members of the groups who were named in it, in particular: soyjaktrollpolice. There were attempts of "doxxing" which were absolute garbage, it literally consistent with a single IP address, and that's it
  • They were unaware of Torswats and only heard about them passively. I already sent them a link to the thread by @Sprate Header so they would hopefully look into it and add more info to the article
  • They had a friend who was extremely fucked in the head and wanted to go to a mental health server specifically to find depressed people and encourage them to cut or commit suicide. Discord, not even once
  • The "class system" is not used by the larp community itself, it was created it as a framework to classify groups by how harmful they are
  • The whole "grade system" thing was created by UKK to arbitrarily classify groups based on dumb stuff like playing a certain game or a specific theme
 
All this information has been very informative in solidifying that this internet "community" is split in two groups:
  1. Trolls: weenie, edgy, discord users who target communities various communities, primarily those with easy to ragebait audiences (the retarded, children, sensitive gay people, etc). This seems to be the classic UTTP style of behavior that at most amounts to being annoying middle schooler behavior.
  2. Post-Trolls: degenerate criminals who target the same communities for sadistic, pedophillic, political, monetary, or other illicit reasons.
Trolls and Post-Trolls seem to adopt the same aesthetic, target the same groups, and behave in similar ways even if they're, behind the scenes, antagonists to each other. This fact needs explanation, and I have a two theories for why this could be the case. Neither of them are substantiated currently, and neither of them are exclusively true to this community as a whole due to it being fragmented:

Theory 1:
The main Troll groups are led by Post-Trolls. Post-Trolls organizes edgy raiding groups to attract young people to join in on trolling. The young people can be made to do things for clout.

The implication of this theory is that the culture of Larpcore is largely downstream of a more insidious sets of individuals, and that these individuals have a motive in organizing and perpetuating groups like these.

The biggest evidence to me is the seigetard aesthetic along with the pedophillia humor (Peter Scully posting in particular). This strange combination has no particular reason to be so common among these groups. Why these aesthetics? Why that pedo in specific? Why the obsession with O9A? Why satanism? It's odd how aligned the worst members of these groups seem to be in terms of "humor". They show off the same symbols and memes and strangely orbit the same groups.

The biggest flaw in this theory is the need to prove a cabal. There clearly are the more vile groups around, they clearly have the same style of "humor" and aesthetic as these lesser groups, but that's it. It's just correlation. There's a missing link between many of the normal Troll organizations and the Post-Trolls. We are on the internet though, alt accounts do exist, but to prove that the leadership of these trolling groups are also members of Post-Troll groups would require associating identities. We don't have evidence for that yet, especially not on a large scale.

Theory 2:
Trolls organize on Discord and have their own subculture. Due to the Trolls being largely unmoderated and full of children, the Troll groups are not capable of proper self-regulation, shunning of bad actors, and reports to the police for criminal behavior. This lets bad actors who join in on the trolling find each other, communicate, and collaborate to make their own, worse groups in the same humor style, but with different motivations.

The implication of this theory is that Larpcore culture is natural and bottom-up. It formed like any other subculture and various cliques maintain it and influence it. There isn't one single head to the subculture as its decentralized.

The biggest evidence for this is the amount of groups that operate in this sphere. Many have been mentioned in the thread already. Furthermore, these groups tend to in-fight for clout and prestige to be the "best" in their world. This is not the behavior of a unified organization with a clear hierarchy and set of obvious goals.

Furthermore, people claiming to be internal these Larpcore trolling groups have consistently said that the trolls are aware of, but hateful towards the Post-Trolls. They're familiar with their behavior, but not approving of it. This implies that there isn't a hierarchy of respect and a desire to "graduate" to being a post-troll among these groups.

Still, a flaw in this is the sheer amount of connection between these groups. Why do the trolls and post-trolls occupy the same space? Is it because there's children there? Is it because of them both sharing the seigetard aesthetic? Is it because both target the same individuals? Understanding this fact may help in understanding why other subcultures get infested with similar bad actors. It's easy to just say "oh its pedos", but these Post-Trolling groups seem to be interested in more than just grooming children. They're swatters, doxers, and cyber-criminals as well. Why take on this brand of edgy behavior rather than any other brand of edgy behavior?


Personally, I believe Theory 2 to have a lot more merit than Theory 1, but it's still incomplete. There isn't an easily established factor that shows why these Post-Trolls orbit around these edgy trolling groups. It's confusing and baffling since there are just better areas to operate in and better targets generally. My best guess is this:
  • Pedos like these groups since they have easy access to children.
  • Cybercriminals like these groups since children are stupid and easy targets.
  • Swatters like these groups due to the obsession with "doxing" culture letting them have easy targets.
  • All three like these groups because of their incompetence induced toleration of them and ease of access for customers and targets.
 
larpercore is a dick-measuring contest where teenagers try to provoke the biggest reactions out of people by playing nazi dressup and show off how much power they have by pressuring minors into carving usernames into their arms or asking neets to blow their brains out
this is just what replaced giving people swirlies or sucker punching them outside school
 
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Why not have it a situation of both theories being possible?
"It's a rather unorganized group of various Discord groups that often crosses over with one another as per users because of the content, and some Discord groups are specifically cabalish (see Sew3r with Richard Densmore and CVLT with Kamala Limkin) that capitalize on the field when opportunity strikes?

Think of it like this.
"There's a swamp where Crocodiles, Frogs, and Panthers all collectively hang out around, because it's a swamp; whenever it suits the purpose of another party to recruit or use another member of the swamp, it is easily done because they share the same collective gathering, but not exactly the same collective mindset. Each particular sect, or cell, has their own beliefs, actions, and going ons that may be true for their sect, but not to the collective whole."
That is to say, "Maybe there isn't an overseer to the swamp; just many different groups within it that operate in specific ways, some more organized than others."

It would explain the "recruitment rally of relative ISIS types."
"Hey Abdul, where can we get hip fresh minds for our propaganda and operations against the Great Satan?"
"I've heard of these groups on Telegram/Gab/Discord, try there. They are particularly edgy and seem particular good for the cause."
"Alright cool"
 
I'll just beat you to your explanation so nobody has to touch this topic with a 10 foot pole ever again.

Larpercore:
Larpercore (stylized as LARPercore) is a very dark aesthetic that originated in various underground communities from Discord and TikTok.
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Aesthetics wiki

Brief explanation:
Kids from broken homes who are too emotionally stunted to join an IRL larp community connect with one another online and dress up in a certain way to spite their parents and show off their individuality.

Primary audience:
weens, teens and kids.


There. Saved the poster I quoted from having to tell us about the group he belongs to and the 2 people who would click off site to read this.

Notice: not to be confused with LARPing, the act of live action Role-playing a theme or setting. These people primarily operate online instead of as a fun get together outside and usually involve themselves in gay online drama or cause gay online drama.

This is larp:
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This is larpercore:
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Not much to add on other than i knew guy that wore those types of masks
Power level alert:

Idk where he is now but once we were on school trip i remember talking to him in private with his other friend who happened to be my best one and he started going off how he wants to kill all jews, muslims and niggers, showed us mask and started sperging how they are scum of society while smoking cigars. This was all random, never ever he appeared as type of guy that would do that. Just some average kid but discord be dammned
 
Personally, I believe Theory 2 to have a lot more merit than Theory 1, but it's still incomplete.
Why not both? It could be a case similar to the boykisser discords where some edgy teenagers initially start these, only to get hijacked by actual criminals and pedophiles for their own use.
In my opinion, it would make the growth of Larpercore Discords and other "Ironic" degeneracy look more organic while still allowing some level of top-down operation.
Maybe there isn't some sort of cabal that is running this but I have no doubts that these types of people are looking for allies that can work with them. If there was higher-level communication going on I would bet it would look more like a web of associations and relationships than an organized group with an identifiable face to it.
 
Something to add from another thread that was recently created, the people surrounding BonziWORLD are loosely connected to these groups. If you go to their Warsaw server it's very clear when you scroll through the member list. People with unicode tags in their name that are definitely connected to the rest of the community. Very unlikely the project itself has anything to do with it, though.

Their wiki even uses the term 'tox' which was come up with inside these larpercore raiding groups years ago.
 
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I've been passively following this thread very loosely for the last couple of months and I think is appropriate that I'm finally joining in when people are bringing the one-uping mentality.

As I've said before in the Farms, I'm a zoomer and I lurked here for about a year and a half before joining on my OG account. I cannot give you a personal account of my times on some retarded 'cord because I don't have any and even if I had I wouldn't have any evidence I'm not just fucking with you. All things considered, I'm as well adjusted as a zoomer can be being that I was force-fed the Internet from an early age and I happened to be a pupil-teacher not long ago.

Not even before by teens, me and my friends graduated from just watching generic horror movies with vague Christian undertones and reading creepypastas to actively looking for shit to mess us up. It was supposed to be a sign of maturity, and I think the absolute worst we got to see was Forced Gender Reassignment. A fucking game of chicken. That was the most fucked up thing we could watch and we didn't play A Serbian Film cuz we didn't have an hour to watch it. Think of any creepy video from before 2017 and we watched it. We weren't even implying we would stop hanging out with the hypothetical coward, we just assumed we had to do it cuz everyone else was. Not all people that watch shock videos, or creepy videos are evil or derive enjoyment of it, we didn't but we kept doing it.

Same rule goes for weird sexual stuff, for what you are allowed to laugh at or how you do it.

What we are dealing with ain't nothing new, most kids will come out of this and be people. But enough of them will be sucked by that void and stripped of their humanity. I remember kids bullying me and others for accents, for brands of clothes, for haircuts, for facial features, for coming from another school, children can be relentless. Children don't understand the world, not completely, and if those children grow up without learning how to deal with it they grew up to become cynical, uncompromising adults. The worst of both worlds.

A child may foolishly believe the world to be simple black-and-white, an adult holds grudges and their own opinion to be fact. Between them, square in the middle you get the 'teen, a being that knows the best was over before they even arrived.

And those 'teens understand that something was robbed from under their noses, and they retort in kind, we may one day live in the kingdom of the blind. The Lord of the Flies is simply that who can give them the means to use their anger and hatred against an acceptable target.
That Reddit post from pages back is right. We may be dealing with an epidemic of depression, of manipulation of the masses, of disentchantment, but we above all have an epidemic of emotional blindness.
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Even on public platforms like YouTube there is grooming. Grooming people to believe that they’re trans, that they’re genderspecial, that they’re “brain diverse”. And reporting such behavior is seen as “politically incorrect”. So it stays up there, and continues doing what it does best to people. Stopping minors from looking at it doesn't work because it’s accessible to them and because minors can be deceptive to the parents.
 
no they're so edgy they post cp to shock you
Exactly. That's what I've been saying. The other there was this itsxil guy and he was in a gc with my other homies because apparently one of them is friends with him, and he just started spamming cp which is disgusting.
I'm glad people are spreading the world and stuff. Honestly people like XIL or Reginmyre should be fucking investigated, right? And these two were on 764, a satanic group where they groom girls and sextort them, which makes these two way more disgusting than what is already known.
 
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Honestly people like XIL or Reginmyre should be fucking investigated, right?
Reginmyre has been on the bounty board for awhile. There's a few more details that need solving before it's tagged and bagged for good.

Tell me about XIL, who you've placed on the same level as Reginmyre, who is on the same level as Rabid, Criminal, and Yuri (Densmore of sew3r, Limkiln of CVLT, Yuri of H3ll House)
 
Exactly. That's what I've been saying. The other there was this itsxil guy and he was in a gc with my other homies because apparently one of them is friends with him, and he just started spamming cp which is disgusting.
I'm glad people are spreading the world and stuff. Honestly people like XIL or Reginmyre should be fucking investigated, right? And these two were on 764, a satanic group where they groom girls and sextort them, which makes these two way more disgusting than what is already known.
There's some video related to XIL on an earlier reply of mine in this thread.

I don't know who that is, though, and I have no idea who made it (clearly, they didn't like him). More information would be good.
 
For awhile now I've been meditating on the nature of Gooning. If you're on kiwifarms you likely are familiar with the term, and the degenerates whom unironically use it. The term is typically only utilized in reference to said sexual deviants, however it's my contention that the term could(and should) be applied much more broadly. We live in a society, a society of Gooners.

If we isolate and analyze the porn sick Gooner what do we find? Pure unbridled abandonment to hedonism. The Gooning impulse as I like to term it. If the Gooning impulse could be given a mouth it would incessantly state "I need to go higher!" The Gooning impulse is what drives drug addicts to OD and food addicts to eat themselves into an early grave. Yes there are other factors at play, but the Gooning impulse undergirds much of the maladaptive habits in both. The Gooning impulse is present to a greater or lesser degree in everyone, each individual having their own set of vices it may prey upon. The gambling addict is a Gooner, the screen addict is a Gooner, the Stoner is a Gooner, the video game addict is a Gooner, the NEET is a gooner. Just about everyone in our society could be classified as a Gooner to a greater or lesser extent(largely due to screen addiction.) Is it any wonder that sports Gambling and Weed have been legalized in many states over the past few years; or that onlyfans is tossed around almost semi seriously as a job option for women? Hell in less than a year tiktok took over the social media landscape and undoubtedly has destroyed millions of peoples attention spans as a result.

Our society is in a race to maximize dopamine output. This process has likely been going on for decades, but its picked up significant steam over the last decade, consequently zoomers have been impacted disproportionally compared to other generations. It's no wonder the number of zoomies doing depraved shit is a notable degree higher when the average kid gets a phone or smart device by the time they're 10; it also should be noted that a not insignificant minority of zoomers are essentially dependent on weed to function.

The Gooning Must Stop.
 
We live in a society, a society of Gooners.
We live in an amoral society. Right and wrong aren’t driven by morals, or a higher power, but rather the letter of the law and how effectively a government applies it against its citizens.

There’s no reason not to give into hedonism in an amoral society, because cynically speaking all morals do is hold you back (when you’re the only one holding yourself to them).
 
We live in an amoral society. Right and wrong aren’t driven by morals, or a higher power, but rather the letter of the law and how effectively a government applies it against its citizens.

There’s no reason not to give into hedonism in an amoral society, because cynically speaking all morals do is hold you back (when you’re the only one holding yourself to them).
No logical reason. But if you're the type of person to allow "Well, no one else is following the rules. Why should I?" convince you, you were a step away anyway. If you're the only man in a room full of men holding to his morals, then you win no matter what else happens. That's what they want for you. They want you to get frustrated and give up. Evil cannot triumph over good, ever, for any reason. It knows this, and it hates it. The only thing evil can do is convince good to lower itself to evil's standard. Which is exactly why this shit has seemed to skyrocket.
 
Our society is in a race to maximize dopamine output. This process has likely been going on for decades, but its picked up significant steam over the last decade, consequently zoomers have been impacted disproportionally compared to other generations. It's no wonder the number of zoomies doing depraved shit is a notable degree higher when the average kid gets a phone or smart device by the time they're 10; it also should be noted that a not insignificant minority of zoomers are essentially dependent on weed to function.
The only difference between then and now is how public it is. Porn addiction has been around for a long time and internet porn of every generation has cause people problems. The zoomer generation is more willing to talk about it in public due to how sexual and degenerate things have become. The problem hasn't changed, the expression of it has. Edging yourself or multiple masturbation sessions is something more teenage boys might try once or twice then move on or keep it private. With open discussion of all sexuality at all times it becomes a problem.
There’s no reason not to give into hedonism in an amoral society, because cynically speaking all morals do is hold you back (when you’re the only one holding yourself to them).
The reason is it has consequences to the person you are. Both social consequences and public consequences. How many men have ruined vaginally intercourse because they've been death gripping their dick for years? How many now need to look up weird fetish stuff to get off or imagine some other woman rather than the one they're with? Hedonism is self destruction, letting your base desires control you until you're a wild animal too damaged to function.

Weren't you just in DM leaks talking about getting straight women drunk to sexually assault them?
Evil cannot triumph over good, ever, for any reason. It knows this, and it hates it.
Evil always beats good. This isn't some silly anime or Hollywood movie where there's karma coming to save the day or a super hero ready to turn up and prevent bad things from happening. Evil has the balls to do what needs to be done and damn the consequences. Which makes it near unstoppable. If you get dragged into a van and raped for hours on end the best 'good' can do is offer talk therapy and repairing the physical damage. That's not good winning, it's evil winning and there's very little you can do to prevent it happening to some amount of people every single day.
 
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