Seeing King Hippo makes me think there's a ton of potential for style parodies.
"Oh fuck, this is a boxing world. We don't know shit about boxing and now we have to train Glass Joe into beating Little Mac." could be a funny premise if retards like Egoraptor and RubberRoss weren't in charge.
I remember that. It was very unpretentious in a good way. It knew what it was and it didn't pretend that it was deep, it knew it was a goofy cartoon show.
If only SMG4 had stayed as it was, just a crazy adult parody of Mario being a retarded idiot, and not a deep-lore animesque dramedy that just happened to have a dumb Mario as a character.
Zoomerfaggots having a neurotic shitfit at the HORRIFYING reveal that animated shows have been funded by merchandise since the dawn of fucking time. I hate these niggers so fucking much.
They still do actually, it's always brought up when they need to hype new cartoons over old ones. One thing i heard often was how the She-ra and Voltron Reboots were real animation for adults (lol) and not toy ads like the old shows.
What people don't get is the irony of the whole situation.
Part of the stigma of how animation is considered for kids is due to their history as toy ads for children, when that never necessarily meant it can't be enjoyed for others (Bionicle, transformers, thundercats, my little pony, etc were watchable for all ages).
But instead of fighting against the stereotype, the modern crowd leaned on it by being in utter denial, insisting that the cartons can't be for kids because they're not kids and like it.
So when you point out that Glitch shows are all merch ads, they can't handle it as it destroys that world view. They have to cling to the "indie" label to the end of their lives and insist their favourite cartoon doesn't count.
But the irony is that these biggest indie shows are the most sellouts of all, as the only reason they got greenlit was due to their creators having a pre-existing fanbase who is willing to spend on whatever crap they do, making them the safest product. As said a while ago on that video, Amazon only took Hazbin hotel because vivzie fans buy the overpriced keychains and shit.
It's not helped by the worst offenders of "indie animation is cinema and for adults actually" will usually have their rooms look like this and keep the stereotype that you have to be manchild to watch cartoons alive.
It's because, speaking realistically, merch sales generate more revenue than animation or even game dev, and you need that revenue to appeal to shareholders (in a sane world it'd be to pay the workers a good wage, but you can blame Dodge vs. Ford for that). You can see this with Pokemon where the mainline games made to introduce more marketable Pokemon are shit, but then you have these high-quality art figurines, cards, etc that just have honestly nice and varied styles. Even that shotacon bitch behind Omori was a graphic designer and made her bucks off of merch with it before Omori was planned out.
That's why I don't give a damn about things looking marketable. You gotta do what you gotta do to pay the bills.
Though it creates a strange sense of irony because I probably would've been willing to buy some t-shirts or posters if they weren't attached to a shitshow.
Its a balancing act really. Marketability needs to be balanced out with artistic integrity. There is always going to be a compromise if you want a snowballs chance in hell of making a product profitable if it has serious cash behind it.
I have said it before and I will say it again, I don't care about "excessive" Glitch Merch shilling. Its how they make their money and for free animated content on the internet its a fair and reasonable practice. If you don't like it, don't buy it. No one is making you buy their shit for the entry price of "free".
The problem with Gameoverse is that its very clear designs were altered extensively to make the show more marketable, damaging artistic integrity and therefore the balance. You can't be this "super cereal muh trauma" show and then also have 80's cartoon style designs obviously trying to get a certain audience (gooners) to buy your shit without an IMMENSE amount of talent and skill. And Ross, Arin and Glitch do not have that immense amount of skill.
Its a balancing act really. Marketability needs to be balanced out with artistic integrity. There is always going to be a compromise if you want a snowballs chance in hell of making a product profitable if it has serious cash behind it.
I have said it before and I will say it again, I don't care about "excessive" Glitch Merch shilling. Its how they make their money and for free animated content on the internet its a fair and reasonable practice. If you don't like it, don't buy it. No one is making you buy their shit for the entry price of "free".
The problem with Gameoverse is that its very clear designs were altered extensively to make the show more marketable, damaging artistic integrity and therefore the balance. You can't be this "super cereal muh trauma" show and then also have 80's cartoon style designs obviously trying to get a certain audience (gooners) to buy your shit without an IMMENSE amount of talent and skill. And Ross, Arin and Glitch do not have that immense amount of skill.
I think you've got a point considering how the design changed over the years.
>first draft had her look more robotic-like, a bit calarts-like on the head but the thought's there
>also admittedly the close-to-final design was thought up of in the same year, removing robo-noodle-legs for thigh-highs (this makes me wonder if whoever he might've tried pitching it to just wanted to goon)
>thighhighs later removed
>just becomes a shortstack as the years go by
>in the final release, all personality is lost and she might as well be fucking t-posing, gotta have the same proportions and pose as all the other girls in the show so those sweatshop 3d printers can fuck up less for the merch
I think I would've liked Kit more if they stuck with the first draft and then refined it based on that, like make the face cuter or something and not Cal-Arts.
