Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Jacknife]

But judge PWEAAASE this my fwirst time doing a Discowawy and I am simply too stupid to be sanctioned for my shortcomings

<Essay why he knows better than the judge>

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

He won't even wait for Hardin's invoice. He's just going to file a ream of plightsperging in advance and hope anybody will pay attention.

I called it!

This is full of some absolutely insane quotes. He oscillates between "I trained as a paralegal and I can safely say your 'arguments' are absolute horseshit, judge" and "AHM DUMB AS FUCK YUH ONNA". This is going to go down like a lead balloon.

Greer, in fact, met the 12-2-24 deadline (a day late)

Greer Met the 12-16-24 disclosure two hours late.

He apparently can't grapple with a deadline or understand the difference between being on time and being late.

Plaintiff never said the witnesses were excited.

Why the fuck is he acting like the witnesses' level of "excitement" is the point of contention here?

As stated in his 12-22-24
Response, Greer said, “only initially mentioned witnesses in his initial disclosure because they
had witnessed Kiwi Farmers stalking plaintiff.”

What the fuck does that have to do with copyright infringement?

Matthew
Hardin said on 12-5-24 that, “I make absolutely no promises as to what we will do with any discoverable information.” EXHIBIT E. So how does the Court feel that reassures Plaintiff?

Mr Hardin's job is not to comfort his opponent. It is to weaponise whatever information he can extract from evidence and witness testimony. Welcome to discovery, Mr. Paralegal

at no time did Mr. Hardin inform plaintiff he would be doing depositions on the witnesses

Again, Mr Hardin is not employed to provide legal advice to you about routine stages of discovery. If you would like to learn what the role of a witness is, read a book or retain counsel.

Greer did indeed comply and gave the witnesses to defendants, two hours late because he had been researching how to file a motion to submit the witness information under seal.

The judge provided retard-proof instructions on how to do this. You failed.

Mr. Hardin ended up publishing that address too and once again, the magistrate has not reprimanded defendants’ LICENSED attorney over that disclosure, yet for some reason, the pro se plaintiff has caught the magistrate’s ire.

Again, the failure is on your part. No information was marked confidential, as explained by the judge and Mr Hardin ad nauseam.

Mr. Hardin’s prior history of publishing notices

Aww, is the defence lawyer formulating a robust defence?

By imposing a sanction of allowing opposing counsel to propose a number that could be above pro se litigant’s ability to pay, who also is in this case in IFP status, and expect payment in 14 days, that has the effect of dismissing this case.

Good. Being poor doesn't preclude you from filing frivolous lawsuits, so this is the only way you're going to learn. Bend over, drooly. The judge is not going to take kindly to this.

Also I love the way your brother just texts you back extremely generic answers.

Damn nigga, that's crazy...

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

It is impossible to imagine that either the Magistrate or the Judge will appreciate this filing.

I don’t know. I’m starting to think that each of these is being passed around the back office like a particularly strange bug found. At some point it becomes its own fascination. “No, let the retard speak, I want to hear this.”

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It seems that everyone but the Judge agrees that Greer shouldn't be allowed to have witnesses.

“No Judge Bre’r Wolf, don’t deny my witnesses, I’d hate that so much!” Idiot wants the punishment to be something he’s already given up.

that "private" correspondence is being leaked due to that relationship.

I swear more and more that Russ is operating under the misconception that Hardin is his lawyer.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Some of my favorite legal musings from this filing











This does offer a very funny possibility. Fed. R. Civ. P. 72(b)(3) reads:

(3) Resolving Objections. The district judge must determine de novo any part of the magistrate judge's disposition that has been properly objected to. The district judge may accept, reject, or modify the recommended disposition; receive further evidence; or return the matter to the magistrate judge with instructions.

The District Judge could look at the situation de novo, think "this is what I've had rolling around in my magistrate's court all this time?", and issue worse, case-ending sanctions against Greer. That would be the funniest thing possible, so I am optimistic it will happen.

Edit: I was looking at the wrong section. It's clear error, not de novo. "The district judge in the case must consider timely objections and modify or set aside any part of the order that is clearly erroneous or is contrary to law."

 

[AnOminous]

Yuh honuh, I thought stating that I had witnesses were just magic words I needed to repeat to keep my sham of a case from being thrown out. I didn't know my witnesses would ever be questioned.

Worse, his lies about his fake witnesses resulted in the case being transferred, at great expense to the defense.

Yes your honor I did indeed give defense the contract information of my witnesses but I didn't actually expect the defendant to contact them!

He actually didn't. Hardin had to spend money and time finding them (which Russ will have to pay for).

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Again, Mr Hardin is not employed to provide legal advice to you about routine stages of discovery. If you would like to learn what the role of a witness is, read a book or retain counsel.

The batshit insane thing about this one particular thing, is that anyone - Hardin, perhaps, even, but certainly Google, ChatGPT, the judge, the court clerk, or some random whore, could have told him the basics of discovery. That the paradox paragon paralegal didn’t know any of it is quite surprising.

(He seems to think the witnesses are to prove something happened at the time, more like witnesses for a restraining order than a civil case.)

 

[obsdj]

I'M respectfully messed up?! YOU'RE respectfully messed up! THIS WHOLE DAMN COURT IS RESPECTFULLY MESSED UP!

With equal "respect," dipshitforlips, the judge's remark about "at least seven months" has a footnote attached, referring to a specific prior document in the record (ECF No. 127 at 4 [filed May 28, 2024 in the Northern District of Florida] [“Mr. Greer’s Rule 26 disclosures similarly reveal no witnesses who are anticipated to testify on any relevant topic.”]). Oh noes, I'm a pro se litigant and I don't understand complicated legalese like "footnotes"!

 

[DavidS877]

The District Judge could look at the situation de novo, think "this is what I've had rolling around in my magistrate's court all this time?", and issue worse, case-ending sanctions against Greer. That would be the funniest thing possible, so I am optimistic it will happen.

Scene, the courthouse:

Barlow: Bennett, why haven't you dismissed this case yet?
Bennett: Because the retarded shit flinging monkey is just so damn funny.
Barlow: Really?
Bennett: Yes, just look at this. Points to 372 instances of retard flinging shit.
Barlow: Sorry, your fun is over.
Barlow gets out the big rubber stamp that says "Dismissed"
Barlow: Bennett, I'm going to award costs and fees too, please work up an order for the defendant to provide that document, no sense in having them try and negotiate it themselves.

Fin.

 

[Jacknife]

He can't. He lost the ability when Null responded. If he wants this dismissed, he has to beg for Mr. Hardin's permission, or for a court to order dismissal, but the court is required to deny such a motion when the non-moving party is prejudiced (like by having spent tons of money already or the moving party waiting too long to file such a request). See, broadly, FRCP 41 (a) (1) (A) and Ohlander v. Larson, 114 F.3d 1531 (10th Cir. 1997)

What happens if Greer goes dark and judge dismisses it after half a year.

Does he have a chance to appeal then?

 

[Genesis Printhas]

Could I ask for a clarification, please? Did the manlet send this load of trash to the same judge who issued the sanctions or does it go to a separate, higher judge, like an appeal?

 

[Gorton Colu]

This is going to go down like a lead balloon.

Based folk saying user.

Go on Russ, show that dirty, dumb judge who's who. He clearly does not appreciate your plights.

Sent from my iPhone.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

What happens if Greer goes dark and judge dismisses it after half a year.

Does he have a chance to appeal then?

He always has the ability to appeal, but depending on the dismissal it may be harder or easier to do so.

Did the manlet send this load of trash to the same judge who issued the sanctions or does it go to a separate, higher judge, like an appeal?

Magistrate Judge issued the ruling. His superior -the District Judge- gets to rule on the objection

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Could I ask for a clarification, please? Did the manlet send this load of trash to the same judge who issued the sanctions or does it go to a separate, higher judge, like an appeal?

Magistrate judges are appointed for terms, and because they're not Article III judges with lifetime tenure under the Constitution there are certain limitations to what they can do. A district judge is confirmed by the Senate, and they have the full power of an Article III judge under the Constitution and laws of the US. So you can think of this as Greer complaining that the junior varsity judge did something, so he's asking the varsity judge to redo it in his favor. But if Greer wins, it goes back to the magistrate judge who is probably not happy that his already lenient order was retardedly shat upon by Greer.

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

This is an extremely high-effort filing from Russ. It's unfortunate he's spent pages reiterating how retarded the judge is based on Russ' obtuse understanding of the law.

Something tells me Hardin's reasonable costs are not going to be in your budget, boy.

 

[Troonos]

Tl;dr:
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Wow, where did you get that photo of Greer?

 

[obsdj]

Magistrate Judge issued the ruling. His superior -the District Judge- gets to rule on the objection

Ohhhhhh fuck me. Is the District Judge permitted to confer with the Magistrate Judge about this, or does he have to look at it with his own eyes only? If the latter, how likely is it that he would plow through the copious record of the last several years to see what we've all been dealing with that led to this?

 

[Irene and 22 others]

What happens if Greer goes dark and judge dismisses it after half a year.

Does he have a chance to appeal then?

Some rulings have time limits within which any appeals or other motions for reconsideration should be made, but if the history of this case is anything to go by Russ can kind of do whatever the hell he wants and the court will take pity on him for being such a hopeless retard.

I wonder if this "objection" filed by Greer was the result of receiving an email outlining fees that he would owe. I can see him complaining eventually, but he's rarely this timely with his filings.

 

[Broken Cuddles]

I complied! (Even though I was late)

Kiwifarms is a stalker site! (Gives an article, because journalists are THE most honest people, and web based news sites are the most accurate information source ever)

My witnesses witnesses harassment from users I say are from that dang dirty troll site! (Except they wont testify about this for me, nor does it have anything to do with contributory copyright, only the harassment claim that was thrown out and I’m not supposed to sperg about. Also I have no proof that any message was from a site user…)

The judge shouldn’t make me pay the defence bill for the time I wasted! (Even though its my fault as the moving party to prosecute my case.)

Thousands are too much! (How about tree-fiddy?)

I shouldn’t be treated like a real lawyer, I’m here pro se! (At my own choosing, no real lawyer will entertain this madness and wants a loss on their record)


Interesting strategy Russ. Although every court video I’ve seen on youtube when the sov cits want to represent themselves pro se, the judges warn them they’ll be expected to follow court rules and procedures same as an experience attorney and receive no special treatment, help or leniency.

Either do it right, or don’t do it. And Russ, we know you can’t do it right.

 

[Empress Nympho]

The batshit insane thing about this one particular thing, is that anyone - Hardin, perhaps, even, but certainly Google, ChatGPT, the judge, the court clerk, or some random whore, could have told him the basics of discovery. That the paradox paragon paralegal didn’t know any of it is quite surprising.

No, the batshit insane thing is that the magistrate explained all of this during the scheduling conference and indicated that all users involved should view the magistrate's own videos explaining his expectations re: discovery. I know that I'm not the only person here who watched said videos, which were very clear to the point of being explicit about the requirements.

 

[Swole McPole]

We're not allowed to reply unless asked for a response.

That must be really fucking infuriating. Having to read Greer's drivel and being unable to point out at great length exactly why it's drivel would drive me nuts.