Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[Aviva's Biotech-Breakdown]

I feel so sorry for Ari and hope that she can build a life away from all of this bullshit. She's the one who should've gone to California or Massachusetts for college to escape the clutches of this sick family dynamic where everyone has to orbit around Jazz and his festering gaping wound.

Even worse, I'm not sure if therapy can help her if she chooses to seek it to talk about growing up in the shadow of a stunning and brave trans kid since nearly every fucking therapist is now a brainwashed trans-affirming NPC or is too scared to say anything that goes against the narrative. The conversation will probably have to be about playing second fiddle to Jazz's "fame" and "activism."

Tbh I think Ari will be fine. She's already learned how to distance herself from her batshit insane family to an extent; sure she's probably secretly horrified/exhausted with what's going on but hopefully she gets to therapy asap...

Spoiler: *manifesting Ari google searching I am Jazz & stumbling on this thread*

 

[Muttnik]

Ari just seems quiet, kind of shy, and gentle in a tomboyish way. Definitely not the girly-girl Jeanette wanted but honestly, isn't that kind of the better deal? Why would you want a shallow, vain, flighty child (aka Jazz) when you could have had someone who seems to naturally value intelligence and maturity and moderation? A spoiled, self-obsessed child like Jazz will not give back to you once you're old and decrepit in a nursing home. They will whine and make it all about them like most bratty adults will. Kids like Ari usually grow up into the kind of adult that a parent would want in their life due to their composure and intuition.

Mothers like Jeanette make no sense to me. A "fun" child is not better than a more down to earth child. Raising a kid is not supposed to be a party or a movie. Kids like Ari who grow up into calm, good-natured people are who you should be singing the praises of.

 

[Aviva's Biotech-Breakdown]

Ari just seems quiet, kind of shy, and gentle in a tomboyish way. Definitely not the girly-girl Jeanette wanted but honestly, isn't that kind of the better deal? Why would you want a shallow, vain, flighty child (aka Jazz) when you could have had someone who seems to naturally value intelligence and maturity and moderation? Mothers like Jeanette make no sense to me.

Ari doesn't seem particularly tomboy-ish to me. I know that's a popular opinion on here but she reminds me of myself. She has hobbies, some close friends, has a long-term boyfriend...she's just pretty normal tbh. Not particular tomboyish but still traditionally feminine.

EDIT: She's around my age and seems pretty chill aside from all the virtue-signaling ""allyship"" her family may/may not be forcing her into. I like her. Which is why I'm just a taaaad bit invested in her being able to have a normal life beyond this freakshow.

 

[Muttnik]

Ari doesn't seem particularly tomboy-ish to me. I know that's a popular opinion on here but she reminds me of myself. She has hobbies, some close friends, has a long-term boyfriend...she's just pretty normal tbh. Not particular tomboyish but still traditionally feminine.

True. I meant that she has more tomboyish interests based on what I've seen on the show. She seems to express an interest in geology, doesn't appear to be big on makeup or entertaining her mother's "spa days", and overall isn't about the glitzy uber-girlie life that many daughters from wealthy families are all about.

Granted, it's hard to get a solid read on what Ari is interested in. She's barely ever on the show and when she is, she either seems out of it or is offering useful, gently-uttered advice that Jazz shoots down.

 

[Aviva's Biotech-Breakdown]

True. I meant that she has more tomboyish interests based on what I've seen on the show. She seems to express an interest in geology, doesn't appear to be big on makeup or entertaining her mother's "spa days", and overall isn't about the glitzy uber-girlie life that many daughters from wealthy families are all about.

Granted, it's hard to get a solid read on what Ari is interested in. She's barely ever on the show and when she is, she either seems out of it or is offering useful, gently-uttered advice that Jazz shoots down.

I gachu. I think that in contrast to Jeanette and Jazz, she seems like a tomboy because she (in the bit that I see on the show and on social media) has interests unique to her that go beyond performative femininity. Like you're so used to seeing extremes a normie like her looks out of place.

 

[Fapcop]

I love how grandma crazy-eyes makes a big speech about how important and memorable prom is, how none of them will ever forget this night, and then later on Noelle completely sabotages what should be a happy experience because he isn't getting enough attention at the moment. Last time I checked, school shooting victims still go to their prom and still manage to have a good time, trauma or not. I don't see how the association of an announcer on a microphone equates to fucking gunshots. And he could have just left the event discreetly instead of having Jazz and his crazy posse sitting with him in the goddamn lounge hall.

People like Noelle really irritate me. I totally understand how hard it can be to live with PTSD or some sort of mental disorder. Depression and anxiety are major social inhibitors and we should never disregard the impact they can have on people. But you also don't fucking self-sabotage yourself because no one is paying attention to you. You take away joyful moments from other people and ruin what should be the time of your life. Had this been a one-time thing, I would let it slide. But Noelle is an extremely unpleasant person and CONSTANTLY complains and makes everything about him and his drama. Everything is a negative experience. Everything is the fault of the world and not his inability to cope and interact with others.

Jazz is the same way, but to a lesser extent because Jazz at least seems friendly and trusting of people, at least up until they disagree with him or point out ways he could improve himself.

I liked how Jazz or Seth or whatever his name is and the friend were the only ones who looked anywhere near like females.

That table was obviously just two dudes in dresses and then Jazz, who doesn’t exactly look like neither a male or a female, but has that troon-look where you can tell that something isn’t right even if you can’t immediately put your finger on it.


And that whole scene was just so obviously staged if you think about it for more than a second.

Like, the camera crew obviously has to follow Noelle to get the right shots of her “breakdown”, but here’s Jazz going: “Herp-derp, has anyone seen Noelle?! She DISAPPEARED!”

Gee I dunno Jazz... Maybe try to follow the camera dude who left together with him a few minutes ago? Or ask the producer, he’s bound to know!

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Ari is straight up cute though.
Not like stunningly beautiful, but cute.

Jazz can only pass as female from certain distance and angles, and compared to his sister you can immediately pick out which one is the true female.

 

[Fapcop]

He knows that no one believes he is a woman. Deep down he has always known, but this night the realization is hitting him hard: he gave up his old life for nothing. He's still the same as he was, only now he looks like a weird man in a dress. I feel pity for him.

Yup. Being seated next to that hulking, big linebacker troon can’t exactly have helped either.

Don’t know the whole family & orbiters that well, do you have some more info on Noelle disliking Jazz. Their body language was certainly odd.

If you watch it with the sound turned off, they obviously don’t look like friends, but like strangers.

I read a little bit online, and they’re certainly pushing the whole “bestest friends” angle hard!

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Ari is straight up cute though.
Not like stunningly beautiful, but cute.

Jazz can only pass as female from certain distance and angles, and compared to his sister you can immediately pick out which one is the true female.

Jazz got that uncanny-valley troon look, that troons who pass decently always have.

You know something is wrong, even if you can’t put a finger on it immediately.

I always figured it was because the human brain is so good at pattern recognition. By the time you’re 20, you have seen tens of thousands of men and women.

So when you see a well passing troon, your brain knows that something doesn’t add up, because it picks up on all the little things you don’t consciously notice.

 

[NerdShamer]

After watching that clip, does anyone else thinks it's weird on how Noelle's mom is constantly frowning as she's praising her son?

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Ari, Lidya (Anna Johnson's sis), and Desmond's sister need to make a club.

I'd stan.

 

[Fapcop]

Ari's got to be out of college at this point, yes? The fact that she refuses to make time for this nonsense really speaks volumes about how she truly feels. The twins can be slut-shamed into participating because they're awful cishet males that need to display their allyship. Ari has never seemed interested in any of this and I have a feeling that she's just going to move farther and farther away from here. I hope so. She deserves a good life away from the chaos and cameras.

Jazz is getting so heavy. You can tell just from the arms and shoulders. I can't imagine it's going to get any better for maintaining his weight, what with Covid striking Florida fiercely right now and all the tasty snacks in the world being free and available right now in mommy and daddy's house.

But whaaat?!? Ari wasn’t there??

Bu-But I read in E!’s promo materials that Jazz and Ari are superclose and Ari is her best friend?!?


The whole college drama is incredibly telling btw.

The reason he has “issues” depression and anxiety is the cognitive dissonance between what Jazz is, what he wants to be, and of course what his parents and everyone else expect him to be.

Shit just doesn’t add up, and there’s only so much BS the human mind can handle.

Now on a subconscious level Jazz knows this and most likely also knows his parents fucked him.

So we get stuff like the college drama. His parents want him to go to Harvard? Suddenly Jazz gets a bellyfeel that Harvard isn’t right for him!

The family forces him to go choose Harvard? Surprise, surprise... Jazz figures out that a deferment is what he needs, and manages to delay going to college.

He’s rebelling against his parents in the only way he knows how. Some of it is his undeveloped brain, some of it is his righteous anger against his parents. And some is the knowledge that he’ll be utterly fucked at college without his huge support machinery there.


SPOILER: Jazz ultimately won’t go to Harvard. And if he does it’ll be for a semester before he has a dramatic breakdown and must go back home.

His future is really depressing, and will most likely be either suicide, or a sad life as a isolated basement troon in his parents house.

 

[Binghamtron-5000]

Would therapy even help Jazz? Any therapist she went to would be some LGBT therapist that would never say anything that would dare to shatter the fragile delusion Jazz has been forced to believe. I could easily see some LGBT therapist just coddling Jazz like everyone else does and telling her to do more "Self Care" when feeling stressed.

Hell, these days I worry that there aren't hardly any legit therapists out there that will help children when it comes to transgender issues. If KF is anything to go by, parents might be better off not taking them to a therapist. I have read about parents that have taken their children to therapy, only to find out that the therapist was making the situation worse and pushing for it, or worse, it was the therapist themselves that planted the first seed that lead to their kid trooning out.

Even if Jazz did go to a therapist that was good for her, as soon as Jazz's mom finds out that the therapist isn't kissing Jazz's ass, she'd just make Jazz stop going.

The real question: is there any therapist who even CAN help Jazz? Counseling someone to help them understand that their “transition” was a mistake has essentially been made illegal. Iirc Obama signed this into law, forbidding “conversion therapy” and conflating it with evangelical fundamentalist pray-away-the-gay counselors.

What do you expect considering "the doctors" in general malformed his dick, kept him a permanent juvenile, doped him with cross sex hormones and cut his penis off, putting a painful disgusting hole in its place?

This is a very good point. Somewhere in Jazzes stunted brain there has got to be a kernel of self-preservation. It associates doctors and therapists with “people who butcher me and can’t help me and fail me everybody step of the way for my entire life.” He sounds like a brat here but he’s kind of right. None of them know Jazz and they’re all working hard to keep him from knowing himself.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

After watching that clip, does anyone else thinks it's weird on how Noelle's mom is constantly frowning as she's praising her son?

Because it's all an act.

 

[For The Internet]

I used to volunteer at a LGBT hotline and I encountered a lot trans kids who were really fucking miserable. There were mandates about what to do if a person was suicidal and then a separate mandate for suicidal trans people because it was so common. It was really fucking sad and was a solid part of why I quit, it was too heavy for me.

Because of that I have a lot of empathy for trans people and the absolute hell they go through. I know most would do anything to be cis or cishet, because the truth is it's just so much easier than feeling like you live in the wrong body.

That's why I hate troons so much. They're oblitorating the 'LGB' and making it all about 'TQI+'. Anything other than lesbian, gay or bi, really. If you're just a gay dude or a regular old lesbian you're at the back of the queue and told to check your privilege (and as for bi people? Silly, those don't exist in real life!). They're appropriating the very real horror of gender dysphoria and making it into a trendy identity for oppression olympics points, for fetish reasons (which I'm fine with if they're just honest about it), because it gets them likes/views/followers. That leads to more kids questioning their gender identity, which leads to confusion and misery because troons have forced people to adopt this shitty attitude of 'can't question or say something that could be construed as transphobic, because a person can't be wrong about their gender identity'. That's how you get doctors to be complicit in this nightmare.

But the very worst people are the ones like Jazz's parents. There is nothing wrong with having a flaming homo kid. It's whatever. The kid might get picked on for wearing nail polish and dresses, but they'll either decide it's not worth the hassle or they won't care enough to change. It could fuck someone up but people get picked for such inane reasons as kids chances are they'd be bullied just for being a flaming homo anyway, dresses or not.
They are deciding their child's gender for them. A three year old only has the most rudimentary idea of what gender constructs/identities are. Blue is for boys and pink is for girls. Boys play with trucks and girls play with dolls. Ergo, to a three year old 'I am a boy and I like pink therefore I must be a girl' is a very reasonable conclusion to reach.

Taking that as 'holy shit my kid is trans better get them on hormone blockers immediately' is literal insanity. I know that you get the smoothest aesthetic transition when you do that, but who gives a fuck? The inconvenience of having to have facial electrolysis or a femme voice you need to artificially deepen isn't worth literally not experiencing puberty, not being able to have sex, not being able to orgasm, being completely sterile, missing out on the whole fucking experience of being a teenager. Why the fuck would you ever think you had the authority over your kid to choose that life for them? Kids can't consent to sex with adults because they can't give consent, they don't have the maturity to do so physically, mentally or emotionally. How, then, do they have the maturity to consent to having their bodies fucked up literally beyond repair? It makes no sense other than because you're doing the fake woke shit like Cecily Kellogg or doing the media sensation money-making shit like Jazz's mother.

It's just so deeply fucked up.

 

[GenociderSyo]

I really wish Gender Dysphoria is still in the DSM, because there’s no way that wanting to chop your perfectly good peen/tits off is considered normal in any way. Also, as a result of the DSM trying to be WOKE with the times, I feel as if this “normalization” of dysphoria’s only made it worse for people with actual dysphoria; among the ranks there are transtrenders, and autogyneophiles that make up the more “vocal” activists so any sort of progressive discussion about the harmful side effects of SRS will be sugar coated.
On top of that, does SRS even help with dysphoria? It seems to me that troons regardless of their genital mutilation status still experience the occasional bout of dissociation, so what’s the point of a pricey and potentially harmful surgery?
I mean, in my uninformed cishet opinion I think there should be more of a focus on a mix of therapy and meds to help qualm dysphoria and hopefully make the person feel more at home with their bodies because surgery and hormones have long lasting effects you can’t back out of once you start, and it doesn’t seem like neither would fully cure dissociative attacks. But any sort of research on that front would be considered transphobic

The only benefit, and an important one I think, is that by declassifying it, it isn't covered by some insurance? I think. If it's in the DSM it is more valid for purposes of disability and government benefits. At least, it should be.
Insofar as whether Jazz is the lolcow, I think the Desmond is Amazing thread should maybe serve as an example, as Des is close to where he has to choose between being straight, gay. or trooning out. And it's all down to his mother as to how that all plays out.

It is still in the dsm earlier in the thread I posted the criteries and diagnostic codes. Shows like this cause people to go straight to agencies that bypass any of the psychological testing that used to be required to transition. Thats how you get people like Jazz and Noelle who would have been denied due to psychological issues needing assessment first being able to become worse off.

 

[LoveYouLongTime]

Taking that as 'holy shit my kid is trans better get them on hormone blockers immediately' is literal insanity. I know that you get the smoothest aesthetic transition when you do that, but who gives a fuck? The inconvenience of having to have facial electrolysis or a femme voice you need to artificially deepen isn't worth literally not experiencing puberty, not being able to have sex, not being able to orgasm, being completely sterile, missing out on the whole fucking experience of being a teenager. Why the fuck would you ever think you had the authority over your kid to choose that life for them? Kids can't consent to sex with adults because they can't give consent, they don't have the maturity to do so physically, mentally or emotionally. How, then, do they have the maturity to consent to having their bodies fucked up literally beyond repair? It makes no sense other than because you're doing the fake woke shit like Cecily Kellogg or doing the media sensation money-making shit like Jazz's mother.

It's the norm nowadays to demonize parents who circumcise their babies or get them ear piercings, especially by the troon crowd, because a child can't consent to having their body modified. Yet that same crowd applauds Jazz's mom for being the best troon mom of them all by literally fucking up her kid's body. It still amazes me that 1. a doctor signed off on this and 2. CPS didn't get involved immediately. I already foresee a decade from now a Netflix documentary on the questionable life story of Jazz.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

The saddest part about Jazz going to Harvard is that none of the other siblings goes there. They're very happy in a college close to home and they have time to be together. Also, they're doing good with their lives and the experiences they are having in their respective universities.

But not Jazz. Jazz HAS to go to the super exclusive and perfect university because mom wants it. They aren't even pushing for one in Florida, where they can keep an eye on him... it has to be the one that makes mom proud to say she raised the perfect girl... because stupid Ari was born an actual girl and went to some poor ass college nobody cares about.

Jazz doesn't exist as a person, he's just the manifestation of his mother's narcissist views and wishes to be seen as super-mom, the mother of a disabled special child she's helping into the world.

The real question: is there any therapist who even CAN help Jazz? Counseling someone to help them understand that their “transition” was a mistake has essentially been made illegal. Iirc Obama signed this into law, forbidding “conversion therapy” and conflating it with evangelical fundamentalist pray-away-the-gay counselors.

An actual therapist would have to tell Jazz the truth, that his mother abused him and he's a victim. And start working from there. Won't happen in USA, at least for now.

 

[ATaleOfSofa]

What the hell is happening to Jazz’s tits and why does he starting to look like a crossdressing Jon Lovitz?

 

[Free the Pedos]

What the hell is happening to Jazz’s tits and why does he starting to look like a crossdressing Jon Lovitz?
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I’m guessing Jazz stuffed them into a majorly padded bra to give them some shape. Do you guys think that rock necklace is supposed to have special powers?

 

[Muttnik]

Jazz's chest has been like that for at least three years now. It's weird, uncannily bloated boobs that seem to be craning upward instead of a smooth downward arc like regular boobs. It looks incredibly uncomfortable.