Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[GenociderSyo]

Interesting video where someone is rethinking the fact she became trans and sueing the clinic behind it due to the drugs used.

Kinda makes a bleak tale of what would occur if Jazz had even changd her mind earlier.

 

[Muttnik]

It's Tuesday and you know what that means! My eternal nightmare. Last week's episode made me drink like an alcoholic fish. Let's see if today's episode will be a little better.

EPISODE SIX

-Jeanette visits grandma and grandpa with dresses for grandpa to wear for the drag show. Grandpa is actually kind of into it so at least that's something. This is still very islamic content though. We have to watch this old fucker strut around in high heels and a skirt. I'm already ready to gouge my eyes out.
-Jeanette says getting a C at Harvard is fine. She doesn't give a shit how good Jazz does in school. She starts bawling at the thought of Jazz leaving. They're thinking of selling the house when the kids are all gone.
-Jazz and his friends are handing out flyers to promote the drag show. These bystanders look disturbed and uncomfortable. They don't address the fact that the last episode ended with Jazz stuffing his fucking face. Jazz is starting to balloon again and I assume this is where it started that led to how he looks today.
-Jazz is going to perform a godawful original song at the drag show and is going to collab with one of his friends to write the song. He meets up with the girl, who he hasn't talked to in a year btw, and there seems to be bitter feelings between them, or at least on the girl's end. This is due to the fact that last time they collaborated on a song, Jazz apparently acted like a massive asshole and wouldn't properly credit her. They "make up".
-Jazz somehow managed to rope one of the twins into the drag thing along with grandpa. He takes them to meet this super gay dancer to teach them how to sashay and swish. Jazz performs some very sexual shimmying and thrusting in front of a mirror. This family is so fucked up.
-Jazz shows up to write the awful song. Oh god, these lyrics. It's like Barney shit. He starts freaking out and gets frustrated, having an anxiety meltdown. He acts like a loon. He goes to hide in the closet in the hall. I've never met someone with such unhealthy coping strategies. He comes back of course but the fact that he freaked out in such a normal social setting really unnerves me.
-This fucking song. This fucking song.
-Jeanette and Greg go to look at condos. Jeanette, as usual, shoots down any input Greg has to say. Jeanette acts like a spoiled princess the entire time.
-Jazz is fucking meditating because he believes in crazy hippie shit to manage his "stress". Jazz reveals to mom and dad that he is not going to perform the song due to being too overwhelmed. Thank god I don't have to listen to that.
-Jeanette reveals that lately Jazz's stress and anxiety is through the roof, worse than its ever been. Jazz thinks that he might not be able to cope at Harvard. Even Jeanette thinks that Jazz has shitty coping skills. Jeanette blames Greg for this.
-Drag show time! I dunno if it's just me but I have a phobia of drag makeup. It's very uncanny valley for me so this is a visual nightmare for me rn.
-Jazz tells the girl he collaborated with that he's no longer doing the song they worked on together. This is "for his mental health". Girl is fine about it. She seems like a nice person, trying to give Jazz some advice.
-Jazz is dressing in drag as well. Aka, a wig and a dress and makeup. I thought this was drag?? Jazz, you should be dressing like a guy.
-The twin in drag looks scary as fuck. Again, no beef with drag queens but drag triggers all those phobia cells in my brain. I'm spooked to fuck.
-This is so femmy that I feel I need to drink some beer, belch, and scratch my nonexistent nuts right now just to get out of this gay nightmare. This is too girly and catty for me, a woman. I get that some people enjoy this kind of stuff and that's fine. But for me, it's definitely not my thing.
-Greg: "THIS DRAG SHOW IS POPPIN'!"
-Grandpa in drag will be in my nightmares tonight.
-The twin at least looks like he's having fun. Good for him, I guess.
-Jazz comes out next for peak islamic content. I could never imagine doing this as a family bonding activity with my parents. I hate everything. Jazz's costume fucks up at some point during the dance.
-Jazz freaks out backstage over the stupid ribbon tearing. He starts bawling and goes to hide again. Holy shit CALM DOWN.
-Episode over. It's becoming more and more clear how grossly incestuous this is on a family level. Normal families don't do this shit. This is the kind of shit you do with your drunk college friends or your weird work colleagues. Not your fucking family.
-NEXT WEEK: Jazz models for his family. Jazz is making the valedictorian address for VIRTUAL HIGH SCHOOL and is of course freaking out over it. The twins and Ari discuss Jazz falling apart. Jazz talks to the family about his growing deterioration and breaks down in tears.

LALALALALA I HATE THIS FUCKING SHOW.

 

[<3Serbian Princess<3]

God, this shit's a psychological horror movie I swear. I'm surprised this isn't like an experimental adult swim show that covers lynchian horror hipster shit. It's only going to keep getting worse, Jazz has no coping skills that I can tell. Like everyone needs something and all Jazz seems to have is his troon ghetto he built for his community. There's gonna be a documentary about this one day, I'm honestly worried for Jazz, he's such a shit person but none of it is his fault. Tbh I give him maybe another couple of years before he becomes a meth/heroin addict, hell I'm sure their rich ass florida doc would instantly write an addy script for his binging. This is what hell looks like, in all honesty this is about as low as you can fall in life.

 

[Robert James]

They're still men, they've just had some really extreme body mods to make then look more like women. Like those guys who get their eyeballs tattooed and their tongue split and get horn implants haven't turned into demons or aliens, they're men who for whatever reason wanted to change their bodies to look that way.
I wonder if the world was more accepting of gay dudes, would there be less of this insistence that trans women are women (because gay men wouldn't have to kid themselves that they're straight)? Or would there be less troonery in general (because gay kids wouldn't be pressured to troon out in the first place)?

I get that to some extent as there are countries that force men to get a sex change surgery if they are gay but it doesn't really explain a majority of the cases in America or the fact that MtF tends to go for women and come out as lesbians. It be worth studying but a lot of the examples we have here on the farms or that you'll find online seem to be less that they have to convince themselves that they are straight and more that they were pressured into it or they were in an echo chamber and had a sense of one upsmanship.

I mean if Jazz wouldn't of had his mom around I could guarantee you he would just be a normal boy,

-Drag show time! I dunno if it's just me but I have a phobia of drag makeup. It's very uncanny valley for me so this is a visual nightmare for me rn.

-Episode over. It's becoming more and more clear how grossly incestuous this is on a family level. Normal families don't do this shit. This is the kind of shit you do with your drunk college friends or your weird work colleagues. Not your fucking family.

-Not just you, one of the things that terrify me is the amount of makeup they put on their face. Their in that uncanny valley between a mask and a face where it doesn't look like a real face but it moves just like one.

- Called it, trans are old hat they need to step up their progressive game.

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

I get that to some extent as there are countries that force men to get a sex change surgery if they are gay but it doesn't really explain a majority of the cases in America or the fact that MtF tends to go for women and come out as lesbians. It be worth studying but a lot of the examples we have here on the farms or that you'll find online seem to be less that they have to convince themselves that they are straight and more that they were pressured into it or they were in an echo chamber and had a sense of one upsmanship.

I mean if Jazz wouldn't of had his mom around I could guarantee you he would just be a normal boy,

That's true. Ray Blanchard's typology of the two types of troons seems to hold up: the gay ones are homosexual transsexuals, gay dudes or lesbians doing it to become straight. And the straight ones are autogynephiles, dudes with a fetish for the idea of themselves as a woman. They're usually into lesbian porn, sissification etc, they would've just been called crossdressers or transvestites back in the day and kept it in the bedroom or in fetish clubs. There's not really a female equivalent but the fujoshis on Tumblr who want to be smol gay yaoi anime bishies are about the closest thing. The men tend to be the ones who "come out" as brave and stunning troons when they're like 40 and have married and had kids. I suspect part of what's behind so much of this "trans kids" push is autogynephiles trying to convince everyone else that it's not a fetish. It can't be a fetish if pre-sexual kids are doing it, can it?

 

[Wertmueller]

I suspect part of what's behind so much of this "trans kids" push is autogynephiles trying to convince everyone else that it's not a fetish. It can't be a fetish if pre-sexual kids are doing it, can it?

Yes,. But there is also a sexual aspect. Autogynephile Julia Serano in his own words (ignore his mental gymnastics, it's obvious, what's going on):

When I hit puberty, my newly found attraction to women spilled into my dreams of becoming a girl. For me, sexuality became a strange combination of jealousy, self-loathing, and lust. Because when you isolate an impressionable transgender teen and bombard her with billboard ads baring bikini clad women and boys’ locker room trash talk about this girl’s tits and that girl’s ass, then she will learn to turn her gender identity into a fetish… my thirteen-year-old brain started concocting scenarios straight out of SM handbooks. Most of my fantasies began with my abduction: I’d turn to putty in the hands of some twisted man who would turn me into a woman as part of his evil plan. It’s called forced feminization, and it’s not really about sex. It is about turning the humiliation you feel into pleasure, transforming the loss of male privilege into the best fuck ever.

Autogynephiles project their own creepy sexual phantasies into children/teenagers like Jazz. They want to be this "twisted man" that turns these children into women, because they think these children are like them.

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

Yes,. But there is also a sexual aspect. Autogynephile Julia Serano in his own words (ignore his mental gymnastics, it's obvious, what's going on):


Autogynephiles project their own creepy sexual phantasies into children/teenagers like Jazz. They want to be this "twisted man" that turns these children into women, because they think these children are like them.

Is that what the whole "cracking someone's egg" is about? Jesus fuck.

Edit: oh my god is that what's behind those troon surgeons' whole careers?

 

[Freya]

That's true. Ray Blanchard's typology of the two types of troons seems to hold up: the gay ones are homosexual transsexuals, gay dudes or lesbians doing it to become straight. And the straight ones are autogynephiles, dudes with a fetish for the idea of themselves as a woman. They're usually into lesbian porn, sissification etc, they would've just been called crossdressers or transvestites back in the day and kept it in the bedroom or in fetish clubs. There's not really a female equivalent but the fujoshis on Tumblr who want to be smol gay yaoi anime bishies are about the closest thing. The men tend to be the ones who "come out" as brave and stunning troons when they're like 40 and have married and had kids. I suspect part of what's behind so much of this "trans kids" push is autogynephiles trying to convince everyone else that it's not a fetish. It can't be a fetish if pre-sexual kids are doing it, can it?

Nah its BS. the "straight" AGPs will fuck other men when possible. Blanchard bases his "legitimate" HSTS trannies on them being "like women" which is sexist as fuck. Also quite a few fitting the HSTS traits date women.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Also quite a few fitting the HSTS traits date women.

Greg Gigi Gorgeus is a huge flamer and after his transition he made a video about finding women attractive. Later he fell in love with a woman and they are still dating.

I also know a guy who trooned out but he isn't an agp troonbian. He is bisexual but likes women way more than men and he is a huge flamer too but not in a creepy fetishistic kind of way.

I guess Jazz would be a flamboyant bisexual man if his parents didn't turn him into an butchered eunuch who can't orgasm never went through puberty.

I wonder if some or many of Jazz' temper tantrums & mood swings are like the ones castrati were known for back in the day because of their hormonal problems.

 

[Freya]

Greg Gigi Gorgeus is a huge flamer and after his transition he made a video about finding women attractive. Later he fell in love with a woman and they are still dating.

I also know a guy who trooned out but he isn't an agp troonbian. He is bisexual but likes women way more than men and he is a huge flamer too but not in a creepy fetishistic kind of way.

I guess Jazz would be a flamboyant bisexual man if his parents didn't turn him into an butchered eunuch who can't orgasm never went through puberty.

I wonder if some or many of Jazz' temper tantrums & mood swings are like the ones castrati were known for back in the day because of their hormonal problems.

I believe gigi is married to that woman now.

And yeah probably. Its just woke castration after all. P hilarious you need to be 21 to buy alcohol or cigs in the US now but you can put toddlers on brain melting psych drugs or cross sex hormones.

To think we Americans have the nerve to whine about insane European laws

 

[KeepHopeAlive]

Jeannette is right about one thing, Sander is better looking as a drag queen than she is when dressed normally and he has way more presence than Jazz on the stage.

Jazz looks like Witchie Poo from HR Puff n Stuff (for you older kiwis) in her drag getup.

I feel so fuckin bad for Jazz. That brainwashed kid is a total mental and physical wreck. The only thing that I think could make this situation better is if Jeannette was murdered by someone who thought she was a tranny(I don't advocate killing tranny's, just Jeannette. Get that fuckin bitch off Jazz's stage.

 

[Muttnik]

Seeing Jazz strut and dance around makes me sad because it looks so forced and unnatural. Some people have really confident body expression and can make movements look graceful and natural. Some people are natural models without even trying. But every time Jazz dances around in what he assumes to be like a FLIRTY FEMININE TRANS BEAUTY UWU it just makes him look uncomfortable and disturbing. Reminds me of Joaquin Phoenix's Joker dancing only with more jiggle from moobs and hormone-fat.

My mind constantly associates Jazz as a tween so watching him trying to be seductive is really spooky. Even more so with the knowledge that all of this is in front of his family. What's going through Greg's head as he watches this? Ari's? The twins'? They have to know on some level that watching Jazz shake his hips and ass seductively in front of them is gross and pushes the boundaries of normal family life. But they encourage it or dissociate from the moment altogether. It's so fucking sad.

 

[Parthenos]

I'm surprised this isn't like an experimental adult swim show that covers lynchian horror hipster shit.

So...the season 2 of MDE we never got? Works for me.

 

[dickass42069]

So...the season 2 of MDE we never got? Works for me.

Nathan Barley S2

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

But every time Jazz dances around in what he assumes to be like a FLIRTY FEMININE TRANS BEAUTY UWU it just makes him look uncomfortable and disturbing. Reminds me of Joaquin Phoenix's Joker dancing only with more jiggle from moobs and hormone-fat.

This is probably a stupid question, but does Jazz actually know how to dance? Random people aren't great dancers under most conditions, and they don't have an open wound in their pelvis as a handicap. You'd think for as much work as has been done on him, Jazz would've gotten lessons in acting or dancing or some other drama club shit.

My mind constantly associates Jazz as a tween so watching him trying to be seductive is really spooky. Even more so with the knowledge that all of this is in front of his family. What's going through Greg's head as he watches this? Ari's? The twins'? They have to know on some level that watching Jazz shake his hips and ass seductively in front of them is gross and pushes the boundaries of normal family life. But they encourage it or dissociate from the moment altogether. It's so fucking sad.

For them, it's probably like sitting through a kindergarten recital: everything about this is terrible, but you have to smile and play along so as to not be a jerk to the kids. I would be very, very surprised if any of them viewed Jazz as anything close to an adult.

 

[wabbits]

Once again, Yaniv's trying to pilfer Jazz's fan base, this time with off-topic phone-iness:

 

[Free the Pedos]

I'm curious about whether anyone in this thread has watched YouTube videos from Rose of Dawn. She's a British MtF "tranner", as she puts it. I've seen her dismissed online as a Blair White-style token transwoman to own the libs, but I think she has many reasonable takes on trans issues. She's comfortable with the idea that she will never be accepted as a woman by 100% of people, but nevertheless strives to pass as well as possible socially and physically. She has a normal affect, friends, and a job. I'm linking to her latest video for the hell of it.

 

[Punitive Castration]

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I'm curious about whether anyone in this thread has watched YouTube videos from Rose of Dawn. She's a British MtF "tranner", as she puts it. I've seen her dismissed online as a Blair White-style token transwoman to own the libs, but I think she has many reasonable takes on trans issues. She's comfortable with the idea that she will never be accepted as a woman by 100% of people, but nevertheless strives to pass as well as possible socially and physically. She has a normal affect, friends, and a job. I'm linking to her latest video for the hell of it.

Well, it's off topic, but even then this really isn't an issues where you can be acceptably gray. Either you're turning womanhood into a status that can be earned or taken away, or you aren't. I don't care if he's so polite about it and he's not militant and he's okay if you don't agree with him. It's like calling someone a "nice" racist.

 

[MiniMuffin]

They ought to set up a poll on here about Jazz and Harvard. Will he go this year? Will he take another gap year? (You can take up to two I think.) If he goes, will he stay out a whole year? Will he graduate?

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Will he take another gap year?

Or will he stop dilating & let his gap close?