Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

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Here's the google drive Lizzy posted full of the choice porn Lily wanted her to draw.
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I tried archiving it but the images didn't stay with it. If anyone knows how to archive better, be my guest.
(I guarantee Lily only keeps Ginger around cause she draws better porn than Mikail.)
(Archive of Lizzy's thread)

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With this, I'm calling it now, regardless of whether or not Lizzy got these archives from Kiwifarms, Lily will say she used "the vultures" to dox her.

But boy, I woulda never guessed that Lily doesn't give a shit about her girlfriends and only uses them for porn.
I can't fucking believe how Lizzy have actually legit talent but wasted time with NSFW shit thanks for that toxic relationship she had with Jerry.
I'm glad at least she's over with him and now is still spitting straight facts about the man in question.
 

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>inb4 Lily tells everyone these are doctored and nothing comes of this.

I mean, I’d be glad to have my pessimistic ass proven wrong but I just don’t see it happening.

Hey, even if Lily and her fan's plug their ear's and call everyone who brings this up hateful bigots, they can just point and go "lol, whatever dumbass", drop a convenient link for any curious outsider to see, and leave it at that.

It'll probably go a similar way to what happened to the writer of Assigned Male after they were exposed for using a childs picture to draw furry CP. Yeah, they and their supporter can cry, scream, and deny it all they want, but at the end of the day, all it takes is one simple click of a link to find out that it's flat out undeniable that they looked at a picture of a two year old and decided to draw diaper fetish porn based on said picture.

That's enough to end to stop the argument of anyone who tries to defend these people, and anyone who keeps arguing after that will either be in full denial or damage control mode.
 
Hey, even if Lily and her fan's plug their ear's and call everyone who brings this up hateful bigots, they can just point and go "lol, whatever dumbass", drop a convenient link for any curious outsider to see, and leave it at that.

It'll probably go a similar way to what happened to the writer of Assigned Male after they were exposed for using a childs picture to draw furry CP. Yeah, they and their supporter can cry, scream, and deny it all they want, but at the end of the day, all it takes is one simple click of a link to find out that it's flat out undeniable that they looked at a picture of a two year old and decided to draw diaper fetish porn based on said picture.

That's enough to end to stop the argument of anyone who tries to defend these people, and anyone who keeps arguing after that will either be in full denial or damage control mode.
Certainly. Perhaps we should make a new updated OP since so much has happened, and just for the sake of having all these links in a convenient location.
I'm not sure how since Chadmuska's gone, but food for thought.
 
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Semi-related, morpmorp's at it again

Someone edited Jerry's TVT Trivia page with a bunch of information about Jerry and Lizzy's relationship, I assume in an effort to kind of balance the narrative of Jerry being in an abusive relationship given that it's contested by, well, everyone who isn't a fan of his lmao

So of course Jerry morpmorp swoops in and clears all of that.
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The red is what was added by the other person and what was subsequently deleted by morpmorp to correct the record.

There's also a lengthy entry for "Lying Creator" which talks about the relationship, several misconceptions over Korra, drama between Jerry, Josh, and Toonkritic, and of course, denial of Stockholm. It's way too long to screencap so here's the full thing that was deleted in a spoiler:
* LyingCreator: Several instances.
** Obviously, the dueling claims of abuse between Lizzy and herself. Two exes describing each other--and notably NOT themselves--as toxic abusive manipulators simply cannot both be telling the truth 100%.
** ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra is Garbage and Here's Why'' has been subject to The Admiral's Analysis in a four-part series of response videos in which the younger [=YouTuber=] found that 94% of the claims Orchard based her opinion of the show on contained some element of falsehood or misconception.[[labelnote:For example...]] Her claiming that the rich mixed-Asian world of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' was significantly Westernized in the sequel series ignored that the extent of said Westernization is almost entirely limited to the United Republic as well as proportionate to the real-life historical counterparts of the nations that directly inspired the setting around the time of the Industrial Revolution, complete with maintaining their distinctly Asian-shaped architecture. Also, her many complaints about bending are entirely bizarre. She went from bending going from the core of the show to utterly meaningless due to technological advancements one moment, despite bending clearly being shown to help ''power'' much of the new technology as well as resentment between benders and non-benders being ''Korra''[='=]s very first seasonal plot; claiming the bending styles had become indistinguishable from one another with nothing unique happening anymore, which The Admiral shot down by noting clear connections between the bending styles and martial arts which he's actually practiced which are consistent with the principles established by ''ATLA'', as well as the increased spread of specialized bending styles; to suddenly being sick of the show having too many bending fights, which not only contradicts both of her earlier complaints, but deliberately forgets that nearly every battle or chase scene in the franchise has incorporated bending in some way or another. She also accuses Avatar Korra of being frequently damselled to make the men in her life look strong when they save her, when Korra being successfully rescued from a perilous situation exclusively by male cohorts '''never takes place even once in the entire series'''. Male-only save attempts fail miserably, all successful saves are either unisex or female, and sometimes Korra manages to save herself and/or whoever's in trouble with her. Concurrently, Korra has rescued Mako, Bolin, and/or Tenzin several times throughout the show. These are just to name a few of the problems with her criticism of ''Korra'' as a series.[[/labelnote]]
** Lily claiming that Creator/JoshScorcher deliberately did nothing about [=ToonKriticY2K=] (Zachary Kays) and his pedophilic crimes is this, especially after Josh [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NghVI_fQF4 cleared the air.]] In effect, a team of fellow WebVideo/MLPAnalysis [=YouTubers=] who were disgusted with the truth about Toon had approached Josh with information they were quietly disseminating across the ''Franchise/MyLittlePony'' fandom to show Toon's criminal activity in undeniable detail, with the end goal of getting the information to the proper authorities so he could be investigated, arrested, and convicted of his crimes. After seeing certain chatlogs, Josh was convinced of the truth and decided to join in this effort. Unfortunately, communications were leaked and Toon's activities, as well as the identity of the chatlog's victim, were placed in the court of public opinion, which alerted Zak that his actions were being looked at. He scrubbed his social media accounts and disappeared from the ''MLP'' community, leaving much of the evidence inaccessible. Worse, part of what necessitated the above explanation video by Josh was how Lily used the situation almost instantly to call him and others out, claiming they knew about Toon and did nothing, even accusing Josh of helping to promote Toon after knoning of his crimes, This caused the scandal to partially lose focus on catching the criminal and spiral out of control. Thanks to whoever leaked the communications as well as Lily exacerbating the drama, not only did Zak avoid being carted off to jail, he was also later able to resurface under a different name in the ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' fandom, all the while she and Josh were exchanging Cease and Desist letters 18 months later. NiceJobBreakingItHero
** Continues to deny writing Fanfic/{{Stockholm}} despite evidence to the contrary, including her own casual statement of having written it being caught in a video.

The reason morpmorp gave for deletion was
The counterclaims from Orchard's abusive ex are unfounded and irrelevant to the trope of Creator Breakdown. Additionally, the entries on Lying Creator are either a difference of opinion or (again) unfounded. Two of them are also irrelevant to Orchard's work. TV Tropes is not a place to build a dossier on someone.
Which, in terms of TV Tropes and their rules, at least makes sense. Lizzy's claims weren't unfounded, of course, and quite a coincidence that she herself just provided proof of that, lol. Oddly though, Stockholm is quite literally Jerry's work, is not unfounded, and is not a difference of opinion. It's actually a fact that he continues to deny its existence despite not only video evidence claiming he wrote it, but the TVT article even linking to him LOL

Someone ought to re-add that last part for Lying Creators,
** Continues to deny writing Fanfic/{{Stockholm}} despite evidence to the contrary, including her own casual statement of having written it being caught in a video.
 
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Lilys fans, trying to be helpful: You just have to fill out a US tax form and you'll get your money back!!
Lily: I'd rather let the US take my money than fill out a tax form.

Like really these people were able to figure out how to get her money back in under a few hours, told her how easy it was, and she just says no because she wants to make less money to villainize the US or something? Like this has to be a victim complex thing because no sane person would willingly say no to taking 30% of their revenue back.
 
Certainly. Perhaps we should make a new updated OP since so much has happened, and just for the sake of having all these links in a convenient location.
I'm not sure how since Chadmuska's gone, but food for thought.
I was thinking the same thing. Admins can edit posts, so we could definitely make a new OP and ask Null or someone to edit it in. I'd be willing to work on it, for sure. What links would we need? Stockholm and proof Jerry wrote it, embedded copies of his most famous videos, the Violate arc and several others, and of course this new Lizzy scandal...would it be too self-serving for us to have links to other posts in this thread? Like the chapter-by-chapter breakdowns of The Sith Resurgence and Stockholm?
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Lilys fans, trying to be helpful: You just have to fill out a US tax form and you'll get your money back!!
Lily: I'd rather let the US take my money than fill out a tax form.

Like really these people were able to figure out how to get her money back in under a few hours, told her how easy it was, and she just says no because she wants to make less money to villainize the US or something? Like this has to be a victim complex thing because no sane person would willingly say no to taking 30% of their revenue back.
Imagine being so privileged and closed minded that you literally shrug off 30% of your largest source of income. Imagine thinking that the work of filling out a single form is not worth it in order to get presumably hundreds of dollars. I don't even care that he's probably lying for pity points, this paints him in a horrific light.
 
I was thinking the same thing. Admins can edit posts, so we could definitely make a new OP and ask Null or someone to edit it in. I'd be willing to work on it, for sure. What links would we need? Stockholm and proof Jerry wrote it, embedded copies of his most famous videos, the Violate arc and several others, and of course this new Lizzy scandal...would it be too self-serving for us to have links to other posts in this thread? Like the chapter-by-chapter breakdowns of The Sith Resurgence and Stockholm?

Imagine being so privileged and closed minded that you literally shrug off 30% of your largest source of income. Imagine thinking that the work of filling out a single form is not worth it in order to get presumably hundreds of dollars. I don't even care that he's probably lying for pity points, this paints him in a horrific light.
remember when she said she needed money a while ago/begged her fans for money for some kind of figure of a character+ other shit?


with this new shit she's brought up i doubt lily has ever been that in need of money. If she can scoff off 30% wich is potentially hundreds of dollars just because she's to lazy to fill in a form that'll probably take up to an hour, if even that- PLUSE considering on some of her streams i see people dontate upards to a hundred+ at a time to her.

Funny also, considering she also pays every person who gives her fan art, and the amount of fanart she gets is a decent amount also.

either lily lied about needing the money or she has money, just wants her followrs to pay for shit.

Also its a common narc thing to do. Narcs can NEVER accept gifts from people they always try to one up on thegift or give something back of value. Its why she said a while ago 'please dont raw me good fanart, your wasting your time i'm only going to be giving you a coupple of bucks for it.

Dude it's literally fan art. its free?!

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Imagine being so privileged and closed minded that you literally shrug off 30% of your largest source of income. Imagine thinking that the work of filling out a single form is not worth it in order to get presumably hundreds of dollars. I don't even care that he's probably lying for pity points, this paints him in a horrific light.
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All that whining for nothing. What a child.
 
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What links would we need? Stockholm and proof Jerry wrote it, embedded copies of his most famous videos, the Violate arc and several others, and of course this new Lizzy scandal...would it be too self-serving for us to have links to other posts in this thread? Like the chapter-by-chapter breakdowns of The Sith Resurgence and Stockholm?
A good question, maybe we should establish a timeline of sorts, or look at the OP of this thread and see what it's missing.
I guess we kind of have to parse the most egregious details and then organize them into a concise and manageable list.
 
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The person could either be on a burner or more likely it’s a sock bc lily is bored. It was created today.

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Either way Lily must be getting off to this kind of things and is making her own entertainment. “ Make sure it doesn’t.” She’s trying to sound like such a hard bitch boss but she sounds like weak knee middle management at best. :story:
 
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The person could either be on a burner or more likely it’s a sock bc lily is bored. It was created today.

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Either way Lily must be getting off to this kind of things and is making her own entertainment. “ Make sure it doesn’t.” She’s trying to sound like such a hard bitch boss but she sounds like weak knee middle management at best. :story:
Since when Liliana doesn't like people asking pictures? Not that long ago she was more than happy to show everyone her ass and chest without any issue. I'm genuelly curious when this changed since "routinely" implies there was more than one time.

If there wasn't other times and this is literally the first one that Liliana reacted negatively, then she only has herself to blame for setting up that expectation in the first place.
 
Semi-related, morpmorp's at it again

Someone edited Jerry's TVT Trivia page with a bunch of information about Jerry and Lizzy's relationship, I assume in an effort to kind of balance the narrative of Jerry being in an abusive relationship given that it's contested by, well, everyone who isn't a fan of his lmao

So of course Jerry morpmorp swoops in and clears all of that.
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There's also a lengthy entry for "Lying Creator" which talks about the relationship, several misconceptions over Korra, drama between Jerry, Josh, and Toonkritic, and of course, denial of Stockholm. It's way too long to screencap so here's the full thing that was deleted in a spoiler:
* LyingCreator: Several instances.
** Obviously, the dueling claims of abuse between Lizzy and herself. Two exes describing each other--and notably NOT themselves--as toxic abusive manipulators simply cannot both be telling the truth 100%.
** ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra is Garbage and Here's Why'' has been subject to The Admiral's Analysis in a four-part series of response videos in which the younger [=YouTuber=] found that 94% of the claims Orchard based her opinion of the show on contained some element of falsehood or misconception.[[labelnote:For example...]] Her claiming that the rich mixed-Asian world of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' was significantly Westernized in the sequel series ignored that the extent of said Westernization is almost entirely limited to the United Republic as well as proportionate to the real-life historical counterparts of the nations that directly inspired the setting around the time of the Industrial Revolution, complete with maintaining their distinctly Asian-shaped architecture. Also, her many complaints about bending are entirely bizarre. She went from bending going from the core of the show to utterly meaningless due to technological advancements one moment, despite bending clearly being shown to help ''power'' much of the new technology as well as resentment between benders and non-benders being ''Korra''[='=]s very first seasonal plot; claiming the bending styles had become indistinguishable from one another with nothing unique happening anymore, which The Admiral shot down by noting clear connections between the bending styles and martial arts which he's actually practiced which are consistent with the principles established by ''ATLA'', as well as the increased spread of specialized bending styles; to suddenly being sick of the show having too many bending fights, which not only contradicts both of her earlier complaints, but deliberately forgets that nearly every battle or chase scene in the franchise has incorporated bending in some way or another. She also accuses Avatar Korra of being frequently damselled to make the men in her life look strong when they save her, when Korra being successfully rescued from a perilous situation exclusively by male cohorts '''never takes place even once in the entire series'''. Male-only save attempts fail miserably, all successful saves are either unisex or female, and sometimes Korra manages to save herself and/or whoever's in trouble with her. Concurrently, Korra has rescued Mako, Bolin, and/or Tenzin several times throughout the show. These are just to name a few of the problems with her criticism of ''Korra'' as a series.[[/labelnote]]
** Lily claiming that Creator/JoshScorcher deliberately did nothing about [=ToonKriticY2K=] (Zachary Kays) and his pedophilic crimes is this, especially after Josh [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NghVI_fQF4 cleared the air.]] In effect, a team of fellow WebVideo/MLPAnalysis [=YouTubers=] who were disgusted with the truth about Toon had approached Josh with information they were quietly disseminating across the ''Franchise/MyLittlePony'' fandom to show Toon's criminal activity in undeniable detail, with the end goal of getting the information to the proper authorities so he could be investigated, arrested, and convicted of his crimes. After seeing certain chatlogs, Josh was convinced of the truth and decided to join in this effort. Unfortunately, communications were leaked and Toon's activities, as well as the identity of the chatlog's victim, were placed in the court of public opinion, which alerted Zak that his actions were being looked at. He scrubbed his social media accounts and disappeared from the ''MLP'' community, leaving much of the evidence inaccessible. Worse, part of what necessitated the above explanation video by Josh was how Lily used the situation almost instantly to call him and others out, claiming they knew about Toon and did nothing, even accusing Josh of helping to promote Toon after knoning of his crimes, This caused the scandal to partially lose focus on catching the criminal and spiral out of control. Thanks to whoever leaked the communications as well as Lily exacerbating the drama, not only did Zak avoid being carted off to jail, he was also later able to resurface under a different name in the ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' fandom, all the while she and Josh were exchanging Cease and Desist letters 18 months later. NiceJobBreakingItHero
** Continues to deny writing Fanfic/{{Stockholm}} despite evidence to the contrary, including her own casual statement of having written it being caught in a video.

The reason morpmorp gave for deletion was

Which, in terms of TV Tropes and their rules, at least makes sense. Lizzy's claims weren't unfounded, of course, and quite a coincidence that she herself just provided proof of that, lol. Oddly though, Stockholm is quite literally Jerry's work, is not unfounded, and is not a difference of opinion. It's actually a fact that he continues to deny its existence despite not only video evidence claiming he wrote it, but the TVT article even linking to him LOL

Someone ought to re-add that last part for Lying Creators,
You know, I probably should have seen this coming. Things are happening as I'm typing so I might amend this as it moves along,

A few things were added to Jerry's TVT Trivia page last night (following my post, perhaps? I'm flattered) (The times listed on TVT appear to be a few hours behind)
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Yikes. Lmao. Of course morpmorp swooped in and deleted all of those too -
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Though the reason, "Examples related to the creator's work only, not personal life" is quite odd, since Stockholm actually is one of his works, it says so on the TVT page for it LOL. Odd though, that morpmorp deleted these (especially the Stockholm one) for being unrelated to Jerry's works despite keeping this;
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and even this;
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Considering they're either not as relevant to his works or have the same level of relevancy to his works as Stockholm does, isn't it suspect that these are the ones morpmorp singled out? I mean hell, I can understand getting rid of the edits made by TheRealYuma and SomeoneElse17 before them, but the edit made by RighteousEliwood3? That's just blatantly trying to hide Stockholm lmfao.

Oh, but it doesn't end there! The edit for Stockholm was readded,
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And there's a bit of discussion surrounding this between morpmorp and this RighteousEliwood fellow who added the Stockholm edit.

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Jerry morpmorp said they referred it to "Ask the Tropers", which I guess is a general forum for TVT members to discuss things. Here's what was there:
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RighteousEliwood replied, saying this;
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Though judging by the reason they gave, it looks like they did address the reason it was removed, morpmorp said it was unrelated to the creator's work, and RighteousEliwood said it was related to their work... which it was lmao

Right now the Stockholm example is still there, though the bit about him talking about pretending old works don't exist isn't (how the fuck did the editor find that by the way? I've been looking for that post for ages).

Someone said Jerry shouldn't have a trivia page as a creator,
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but that's a little odd considering other rather prominent creators like hbomberguy, The Amazing Atheist, and h3h3 have trivia pages on that site.

Like I said, any significant developments, I'll keep my eye out.
 
A good question, maybe we should establish a timeline of sorts, or look at the OP of this thread and see what it's missing.
I guess we kind of have to parse the most egregious details and then organize them into a concise and manageable list.
I've had plans to create a timeline for a long while. I should get around to doing that soon.

Remember when you flashed your tits on your tumblr blog without any sort of age-gating to a bunch of minors?
 
I dreaded doing this one. It’s basically Creepdash being her usual disgusting self and then a whole abuse segment with Ascentia and Twilight, the two characters that had nothing to do with this fic on so long I almost forgot they were there.

Chapter 15: If I Wasn't Silly, I'd Be Dead

+The three little girls are helping Scootaloo to accomodate her stuff on her own room. Creepdash then comes in to tell her the rules of the house. The first one is no sex in the house and Scootaloo seems to understand it on the sense that is for the sake of her pedophile mommy, so she’s okay with it because the poor girl has accepted her fate, but both Apple Bloom and Sweetie Belle react with shock and causes Creepdash to say it was all a joke, laughing so hard because can you imagine Creepdash not wanting to have little girls fucking at her house.

+The actual new rules is that Scootaloo can’t go to her and Fluttershy’s room. No explanation as to why, even though it’s the more normal thing for kids to go to their parent’s room. The second rule is to shower every day. No mention of what the punishment will be if not. The third rule is to not do any drug or else she’ll rape her. Yes, this is implied on the narration with Creepdash actively trying to be creepy and Fluttershy yelling from downstairs to not do that.

“I’m not serious, Shy!” Rainbow called back, “I’m just messin’ with ‘em!”



At that, Rainbow’s meaning became very apparent to the three girls.



“That’s not funny, Rainbow,” Apple Bloom said flatly.



“Come on, Ma… That was cold,” Scootaloo muttered.



Sweetie Belle just looked away, shaking her head.



“They didn’t even get it until you started shouting!” Rainbow called down the hall.

+Mother of the year already. Fluttershy doesn’t tell her that was inappropiate and gross since raping your own daughter or making her afraid of it is just not funny, but instead brings out how the social worker could have gotten the wrong idea because she’s that caring. The girls don’t care about it though so I guess it’s fine. What is a little threat of rape among family?

+Creepbow separates Sweetie Belle from the others and asked her about what happened yesterday, when she flashed her bare ass to her. Sweetie Belle says she just wanted to see how she’d react since she never had anyone being sexually attracted to her, besides her two friends. But since Creepshow “helped them so much and were always there”, she feels sorry about it and won’t do it again. She borrowed them her house one time so they could have sex and plays games with them while stills staring at them like candies to eat. I don’t really get the sense that they should be so grateful for that.


+Pedodash tells her that she liked it and has a nice butt. But she shouldn’t do that or else they could use it as an open invitation to hurt her. She won’t do it, though, since she is “supervised by Fluttershy”, which is just a delightful way to blame it on your girlfriend if you do end up hurting someone. Besides, if something did happened to Sweetie Belle she’d be the prime suspect and could get into trouble, and isn’t that the most important thing at the end of the day? But at least this time she adds that it could be dangerous and encourages her not to do it again, which she already said she won’t do so good for reinforce it I suppose.

+Sweetie Belle hugs her and promises she won’t do it again, and how long are we going to drag this scene. Rapebow forget all about the danger and how Sweetie Belle could be taken advantage of, and tells her that it’s best to tone it down for a while because the social worker’ll be around. Spoiler: there’ll never be a social worker.

+Sweetie Belle translates this to the creep telling her that she doesn’t actually mind what she did, and the pedophile contradict herself by saying “I’m not about to tell a cute girl to stop flashing me” and chuckles at how that makes her “weird”, so this whole conversation has been rendered completely useless. Sweetie Belle nuzzles her and goes off to help her friends while the creep thinks of how “adorable” she is.

+Downstair Fluttershy and Pedocreep start talking about the possibility of she being pregnant, and they agreed to get a test later. Scootaloo hear them out and acts genuelly surprised about the news, despite how in the last chapter it was her and her friends the ones to suggest the pregnancy option to the adult women who should know already. But they don’t know for sure just yet so Fluttershy asks that they don’t spread it around.

+Scootaloo wants to know what should she be calling Fluttershy and she says that anything she wants, so Scootaloo calls her ma. Thank god, that suspense that if she wanted to be a mom or not was killing me. They take a family picture from a camera that Sweetie Belle conveniently had.

+Twilight and Ascentia are suddenly there. Ascentia looks awful but it’s just “grownup stuff”, don’t worry about it. Twilight has the camera and takes more pictures. A “normandy” reference is dropped that I do not care enough to know more about.

+Twilight tells them that she knew about the adoption already because of the paperwork she had to see. All princesses know the creep so they decided to leave the issue to the one who lived on the region, making the scene on the office where it was explained it would be a conflict of interest irrelevant.

+They talk about Twilight’s “barely-showing stomach” and how they know already that the baby’s going to be a girl, even though you can’t really tell until the pregnancy is much more advanced but is anyone suprised? No. Anyway, now they’re talking about different options for names and Ascentia suggested Sunrise. This somehow warrant she mentioning Twilight’s mom and how Twilight shouldn’t listen to her, prompting everyone else to ask what happened.

“When I told my mother I was pregnant… she flipped out at me. Said I was taking everything too far. Called my marriage a farce and said I was unfit to be a mother,” Twilight said bitterly, “Ascentia tried to talk to her, but she wouldn’t listen. Said I’d… brainwashed her.”

+On this story it has been stablished that Twilight has been so violently abusive towards Ascentia that she has been arrested for battery on multiple ocassions, to the point that police are tired of going just to have Ascentia drop all charges. Any rational person would think someone like that should not be a parent. Rainbow and Fluttershy also thought as much when they find out about it. Here the parents of Twilight are on the side of Ascentia, the victim, and think Twilight should face justice for what she has done. But we’re meant to sympathize with Twilight, the abuser, on this situation.

“Shit… that sucks,” Rainbow frowned, shaking her head.



“I’m sorry,” Fluttershy said sympathetically.



“How could she say something like that to me?” Twilight asked, sniffling a bit, “She’s my Mom and she told me I needed to be locked up.”



“That’s just messed up, Twi. I just became a parent, kinda, an I can tell you one thing. Loving your child isn’t conditional,” Rainbow said seriously, “And that’s just dumb of your Mom to say that. Concern’s one thing, but come on.”

+I love how Rainbow thinks she can talk about her idea of being a good mother when her idea of parenthood includes joking about raping her daughter and friends.

Ascentia reached over and hugged her while Twilight continued, “It’s all the time with them. They’re never happy. First they didn’t approve of Ascentia, then they tried to interfere with our wedding, then after all that shit happened with the courts they started doting on her and treating me like some monster. Now they want to stop me from having a baby. What did I ever do to them?!”

+In any other story the parents of Twilight would be the strong couple who’s not afraid to call out the horrible action of their own daughter, because they understand that not supporting a rapist or abuser’s more important than blood. But not on Liliana’s story. Remember, everyone: if someone you knew and cared about gets caught battering their spouse on the street, you’re the bad guy for not being on their side and ignore the pain of the victim.

+This keeps going for a while. It’s a whole pity party the one Twilight is throwing here and we’re all invited.

“We won’t let your parents stop you,” Fluttershy assured, “You still have us, Twilight. We’ll help you any way we can.”



“You guys don’t get it, your parents love you,” Twilight sniffled, pushing away from her wife, “You’ve never had them treat you like a stranger in your own home. Nothing I did was ever good enough for them. And the one good thing in my life they constantly tried to take from me,” she half shouted, pointing over at Ascentia, “Whether by trying to break us up, or trying to have me put in jail! I know I don’t talk about it all that much, but they’ve been hounding me ever since she got the charges dropped. Now they’re threatening to call social services when the baby is born!”

+Maybe if you stopped beating the shit out of the “one good thing”, they wouldn’t care that much? Nobody says this, of course. They’re all there to support Twilight and tell her how good parents shouldn’t treat their children like that because’t is such a “betrayal of trust”. It’s so unfair, guys. When you’re an abusive person and your parents treat you as such. It almost makes you want to cry too, doesn’t it.

+One can’t help to wonder what was the real world inspiration for this.

+By the way, this happens:

“Their two children are royalty and have saved the world a couple dozen times,” Ascentia chuckled, “Yeah Velvet, I’ll go file for divorce right away. And while I’m at it I’ll explain how Pinkie Pie’s precognition works and make magical doves fly out of my ass!”



“Oh will you stop making jokes?!” Twilight screamed as she swung her arm back and slammed her fist into Ascentia’s face.

+Twilight now is just beating Ascentia. At first they think it’s fine (because they’re idiots), but when they see that Ascentia’s trying to cover herself and hide from Twilight, that’s when they decide to intervene. They get them separated and Ascentia tells Fluttershy she thinks her nose’s broken. Fluttershy and Sweetie Belle take her to the hospital as Twilight suddenly seems to realice what happenes and tells her that she’s sorry, but Ascentia can’t say much before she’s gone.

+The pedophile here now is yelling to Twilight about what the hell was she thinking, only to suddenly turn into a therapist:


“Twilight looked like she was about to cry again, “I don’t know… I just… and then I…” she bit down on her knuckles and breathed in heaving gasps, “Rainbow Dash, what’s wrong with me? Why do I keep hurting my Kitten?”



“You have anger management issues and some kinda tendency to violence,” Rainbow said flatly, “And that was no ‘love slap’. That was pure, unjustified violence and assault on someone else! I know I make ‘She asks for it!’ jokes but I’d never want her to actually have that happen! That wasn’t funny or justified, Twilight! That was abusive! You need some serious fucking help. And I’ll have you know I won’t tolerate that kind of behaviour in my house, either! You could’ve hit one of the girls!”


+I wonder if this is the moment where Liliana thinks she’s surprising the reader by telling us that all other times that Twilight casually beated Ascentia were not supposed to be funny, aha, but rather abusive the entire time! On the TVTrope page I know she’d love to believe this comes as a surprise or some kind of clever revealing after tricking us into thinking it was sexy or something like that, but I think it’s pretty clear this’s just stupid and nobody was fooled at any moment.

+Nonetheless, nice to finally see the pedophile worrying at all about the wellbeing of the little girls, even if it’s only because the threat comes from someone else and doesn’t mind if it comes from her. I guess too she only cared when it looked like Ascentia wasn’t into the beating because at first she literally rolled her eyes a the situation.

+Twilight finally agrees that she’s going to see a doctor because she doesn’t want to hurt her “Kitten” and here’s hoping it won’t be Firebrand, the pedo enabler.

+Suddenly Ascentia is back because apparently there’s a hospital just around the block and they atended her right away. She tries to go comfort Twilight, who’s crying again, and the creep is in between, but Ascentia doesn’t care and shoves her to a side easily to go craddle Twilight to convince her everything’s okay.

+Ascentia’s scare of Twilight going to a doctor because he might suggest a divorce. She’s so terrified of the possibility that she can’t even bring herself to say the word. Fluttershy tells them that probably won’t happen since the doctor’ll try to help them out. Only then Ascentia is okay with the idea and they say I love you to each other.

+Sweetie Belle then asks why does Twilight calls Ascentia Kitten. Twilight says she doesn’t know but it got stuck. Spoilers: she said that to Ascentia the first time she raped her and she genuelly doesn’t remember it, but Ascentia does. Later on she’ll get full blown panic attacks at anyone but Twilight calling her Kitten, pressumably because it reminds her of her trauma, because still being married to her abuser doesn’t do that, for some reason.

+We had comments before about how Twilight’s portrayal on this fic feels like bashing, but I feel we should talk too about how awful of a portrayal of victim Ascentia is. She’s a battered wife who keeps coming back to her abuser and will forgive her even after Twilight ends up abusing her daugher while is a baby. Despite her feeling about Twilight, considering that she had Lizzy drawing porn of this particular couple I can believe Liliana actually likes them together. The more I think about it, the more similarities I see between them and Lilivoir. The biggest difference is that here the abuse and codependancy are adressed explicitely on the text but that still means anything for any of the parts involved so I don’t know if that makes it worse or better.

+Ascentia is cuddling to Twilight and acting like a cat, trying to assure Twilight that it’s all alright because she likes being her punchbag. Twilight tells her not to push it right now and for once Ascentia shuts up. This whole scene ends with Twillight just saying “let’s go” and that’s all.

+”It was late. Very late.” These descriptions are so immersive.

+Scootaloo went to bed and the pedophile is cuddling on the couch with her enabler. They talk about what happened today. Pedopony thinks that the Doc a case of domestic violence like that one they saw was going to be a walk on the park, compared with the shit she goes through and… as a reader, I can safely say that’s not the safe. I know that Ascentia and Twilight’s “conflict” will never be resolved on a proper manner because I know who wrote this, but at least it’s a lot more interesting that anything that has happened with Creep here this entire time and she’s the protagonist of it. At least things are happening between Ascentia and Twilight, people who oppose their union and how that actually has an effect on Twilight as a result. Of course, all the backlash that their relationship gets is entirely their own fault but at least it’s some kind of backlash with some weight.

+I said on other post and it’s worth repeating: the only semblance of a plot we have here is wether Rainbow Dash’ll rape little girls or not, and the only stakes Rainbow cares about is if Fluttershy’ll leave her or not. Morally there’s not a problem because we had multiple scenes of her just admitting she doesn’t care about hurting other, only about being personally affected. Legally there’s not a problem either because Liliana decided to make it legal that an adult could fuck a 14 year old if they wanted to. Ethically there is barely any conflict either because nobody cares about the raping of little girls. Not Fluttershy, who’s only concerned about Rainbow fucking anyone else but her. Not Ascentia, who’s a creep of her own. Not Rainbow, not Twilight, not even the little girls themselves. I can’t understand the levels of utter mediocrity that one must posses in order to make the possibility of a main character raping someone or not feel just as much important as if they decide to take a cake or pudding as dessert. If no one cares on this entire story then why should the reader?

+I’d much prefer to hear about Ascentia trying to justify staying with her abuser and Twilight desperately trying to convince herself that she’s a good person despite everything, that whatever I have been reading right now. At least it would feel like the stagnation had a point on itself. Of course, written by someone else because Liliana’d make that boring too if given the chance.

+Anyway, Pedopony tells Fluttershy about her experience fucking herself and Fluttershy find it sexy because that’s the whole extend of her character right now. Pervy appears on Pedocreep’s head and it’s obnoxious as always. Fluttershy luckily doesn’t hear her or see her. Pedodash’s acting as a médium between the two and, again, Pervy tries to be flirty but it only comes across as how a 13 year old think flirting’s like. Fluttershy wishes she was real so she could be fucked by two Creeps at the same time and no one knows if that is even possible. They resolve that Fluttershy’ll close he reyes and imagine she’s with the two pedos, which is all that it’s necesary for them to participate on the same fantasy and have a threesome.

+On the middle of this another Pedocreep comes out. This one’s meant to represent the shy side of Rainbow. We know this because she’s dressed modestly and doesn’t understand at first that she’s being invited to join the orgy. She does, of course, because why else anyone thought this story was made for and she also thinks Rainbow’s so amazing with her cock because of course she does. I don’t even have especially funny phrases to make this any easier.

+The shy sides finishes and then goes out, but Pervy still stick around and they fuck some more. Pervy’s annoying and 13 years old.


“Oooh! Dash is in trouble! Dash is in trouble! Dash is in trouble!” Pervy chanted in a sing-song tone, laughing.”

+This sex scene finally ends and Fluttershy’s so amazed because it felt so real. Then they talk about Rainbow’s fantasies, which feels practically the only issue they ever touch consistently, while Fluttershy assures her that she won’t ever judge her for those. If you thought all those fantasies were about the little girls, you don’t get any prize because everyone already knows that.

+When Rainbow mentions about how Sweetie Belle flirts with her, Fluttershy’s rightfully concerned but calms down immediately when Rainbow insists “I’ve got you watching me. If anything did happen to those girls, I’d be the first person you or Twilight would suspect”, which again it’s such a manipulative way to make your girlfriend feel responsible for where you decide to stick your cock.

+Then they hug. Rainbow’s so comforted by the thought that she can share her disgusting fantasies with Fluttershy too. She gets hard. Fluttershy laughs and suggest they go to the bed so she can do something about it. The end.

Next Chapter: Ain't Got Time For Your Shenanigans

Estimated time remaining: 4 Hours, 26 Minutes
 
Since when Liliana doesn't like people asking pictures? Not that long ago she was more than happy to show everyone her ass and chest without any issue. I'm genuelly curious when this changed since "routinely" implies there was more than one time.

If there wasn't other times and this is literally the first one that Liliana reacted negatively, then she only has herself to blame for setting up that expectation in the first place.
eeeeeehhh lets be fair here- even tho its lily.

Its up to the individual when, where, and why ithey want to share pictures of themselves. Even if someone has an only fans accounts and posts daily there, doesnt mean they'd be comofrtable sending a picture if a person dms and ask-even if nicely. just because someone shared and was open to do so a while ago doesnt mean they are at this/X specific moment.

i know this is giving lily the benefit of a doubt here, but its the same with anybody who has been open in sharing pics of themselves in the past, as in anyone.
 
eeeeeehhh lets be fair here- even tho its lily.

Its up to the individual when, where, and why ithey want to share pictures of themselves. Even if someone has an only fans accounts and posts daily there, doesnt mean they'd be comofrtable sending a picture if a person dms and ask-even if nicely. just because someone shared and was open to do so a while ago doesnt mean they are at this/X specific moment.

i know this is giving lily the benefit of a doubt here, but its the same with anybody who has been open in sharing pics of themselves in the past, as in anyone.
I disagree.

Liliana has posted pictures before as per request from anons. As far I know, she hasn't made any announcement that suggest she was suddenly uncomfortable with it and if that is the case, nobody can blame her followers for still thinking it was okay. On literally any other case, a reasonable person would have said "I'm not in the mood for that" or even a simple no and that would have been enough, but Liliana had to make this another case of My Fans Are The Worse People Ever when it was literally her responsability to make clear what the limits were.

You can't get mad at people for violating a boundary they didn't know existed. People are not going to read your mind to know when you're going to want horny requests and when not, which horny requests are acceptable and which aren't. Every person should have to stablish that beforehand or make an appropiate correction after the fact, not jump and act as if the other person commited a horrible crime for making a completely fair assumption based on Liliana's actions.

This an abuser's tactic, to constantly change the expectations with no warning just to keep you on your toes and be insecure about how else can you make Liliana happy.

Unless she did mentioned on some off post somewhere that she doesn't want to send any horny pictures ever again, in which case, that still not a good reason to jump to anon like that because then we're on the same situation as the thick fanart: sometimes people just don't know because you can't really expect everyone to be aware of every single stupid post you have ever made to keep up with all your preferences.
 
So here's an update to the TVT stuff I've been following

Jerry's trivia page on TVT is gone, as according to the administration, creators aren't allowed to have Trivia pages.

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Don't assume this is TVT covering up for Jerry, I had a little oversight when I said that other creators had trivia pages, as those creators I mentioned are classified as "WebVideo", which I assume means their stuff is seen as a show, or they create content that is exclusively video, or something along those lines. Jerry is classified as "Creator", I'm guessing because his stuff goes beyond just videos, as he does fanfics too.

In any case, first off, an archive exists, and I think it's fairly recent? It has the Stockholm stuff but not the "Lying Creator" stuff. Not that much was lost though tbh. lol

Second off, morpmorp listed a few trivia things they'd like to see on the main creator page, and suspiciously Old Shame (the trope that not only held a mention of Stockholm, but a mention of the Over the Barrel video and RVI too) isn't there.

Old Shame is a trope (or "trivia" I guess? Per the header) that basically just refers to a work or something that a creator doesn't look fondly upon in retrospect. The Over a Barrel review, RVI, and obviously Stockholm are such examples of this. That's what the RighteousEliwood3 user was adding to when he inserted Stockholm, and it fits as an example of the trope. Much better idea than just putting "Lying Creator" back.

The page for it even says,
"Rule of Thumb: If the creator tries to erase any trace of its existence, shies away from it, moves on to the next question when it's brought up, issues a public apology, or otherwise just tells people not to care about it, it's an Old Shame."

So all that stuff about removing the Stockholm example (and the "Pretend old stuff doesn't exist" post example) because it's about his personal life was total bull and an attempt to cover up.
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Makes sense of course, there's no way Jerry would incriminate himself by requesting the child porn he's written be added to his locked creator page, where he can't do anything about it aside from bug the moderators to take it down, which they probably wouldn't considering he has written it and it applies to the Old Shame trope.

Unfortunately for him...
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Oh boy. So far, as of writing, neither edit request has been fulfilled and added to Jerry's main creator page. We'll have to see what comes of it.

Additionally, morpmorp made another post on Ask The Tropers regarding more apparent brigading?
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Morpmorp has to be Jerry at this point too. There's no way a fan would be this obsessed with every article about their favorite creator on TVT.
In fact, look at this reply from someone else who frequently edits Jerry's stuff;
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You're almost there, keep going!

To sum this one up because I'm less interested in it, someone else (literally) has been editing the Pokemadhouse TVT page expanding on details about Jerry and Lizzy's relationship, ultimately I feel trying to use neutral language with their relationship (ie instead of saying "Lily's abusive ex", they would like it to say "Lily's ex who is accused of being abusive" or something along those lines). Morpmorp who is totally not Jerry is quite insistent on maintaining that Lizzy is abusive on... a tangentially relevant TV Tropes article about his selfinsert Pokemon fanfiction.

I mean, look at the edits;
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And an edit from SomeoneElse17 that is totally blank, minus the reason? Not sure what's going on there.
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Regardless, I think he makes a good point, that referring to Lizzy as 100% abusive when it's just an accusation on Jerry's part isn't right. There's a discussion on Ask the Tropers where some users expressed similar opinions,
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Gee I wonder why morpmorp might be so biased? I feel like these people know morpmorp is Jerry but they know outright making the accusation would be met with incredulity, and morpmorp themselves would probably use that Alchorative defense (funnily enough Alchorative was also accused of bias lmao). Not to mention, as it is right now, we can't quite prove outright that Jerry is morpmorp any more than we can prove that, say @Ben Laden is SomeoneElse17. So I guess right now we're all locked in this weird open-secret stalemate.

I'll look forward to seeing if the Old Shame thing is added to Jerry's locked main creator page.
 
Sorry for the doublepost, just wanted to let you guys know that I'm typing up a new, updated OP. I'd appreciate any contributions or suggestions (unlike Jerry), particularly about Pokemadhouse and Sith Resurgence, since I don't know or care about those, and I'm not gonna be reading them just to put them in a post.

I'm fairly far along in typing it right now, but I've only just gotten to the long stuff, like Josh.
 
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