Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

[starborn427614]

Yeah, even though it's only seeing use on TVTropes, I'd say it's not a bad idea to add it. There really isn't any doubt that morpmorp is her, especially after that tumblr post right after the TVTropes one.
I mean really, the only one this obsessed with Lily Orchard is herself, no one else would go out of their way to do this.

Might be an idea to put a (Rumored) tag or something until it's 100% confirmed. I agree it's her too, but y'never know.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

You're right, my B. Still doesnt change how stupid the line "Anevay did it. Anevay saved her people." is when Anevay was literally just carrying around their leaders decapitated head in an open declaration of war. Lily has stated before that Anevay would be the one immediately firing at the tree upon Sylvanas' command, but I guess she changed it so Anevay gets to have an even bigger savior complex.

It is okay, knowledge of how shit really is, and how the storyline (and game mechanics tbh) in the World of Warcraft Fanbase is so fucking Gaslit (I hate using that term but it is very accurate) that only fucking insane people like me can really keep track of what is real, and what got started with somebodies head canon based on one line in one quest text. A real good example of that is "The Old Gods" (Lovecraft Inspired Raid Bosses) are still alive and we only fought their avatars"

 

[Duine In Cudromach]

My god, that pronoun thing. I'm hoping the one anon who identified as eighteen things including 'cactus' was fucking with her because they fizz definitely hammered home the point of how fucking ridiculous it is and how Lily doesn't even question anything.

https://archive.md/uBgfF

This one in particular jumped out at me. "Being dsyphoric lets me enjoy bundling up more! "

It really is a roleplay. "Noooo you guuuuys don't call me a booooy *snuggles in blanket*". From what I've heard, experiencing dysphoria is horrific. It's a constant sense of self-loathing. You hate being in your own body, it doesn't feel like it belongs to you and you're trapped inside it. People identifying you by the other sex helps alleviate the mental strain and gives you a network of support-- it's therapeutic. It helps. But people who experience gender dysphoria don't do so and think "I have a uterus but I'd rather be seen as a man", they think "I'd rather NOT HAVE DYSPHORIA".

It's not a cute hat that you wear when you want to be babied or indulge in your kink. It's a mental illness, people who experience it deserve respect, and people who play these games are demeaning those that actually need help.

Or, the far more likely explanation, she finally caught on that anti-maskers are among the easiest punchbags on the entire internet and also a easy way to make herself look knowledgeable since she's talking about science?

She was getting some flak for this. I'm guessing it's the same reason she decided not to be transphobic-- it's more trouble than its worth.

Or she's now believing that if everybody would just comply a wear a mask Trudeau would look out his window and see all the (presumably) smiling faces wearing masks and life the lockdowns and finally Lilly can go to New York and own marry Mikaila.

Because, as we know, her Tumblr gets so much traffic that surely her words will make all the difference.

https://archive.md/xApWg Whoever archived this was fast as fuck my god

I can't begin to wrap my brain around this. Is it an apt comparison? sure. Does that mean the trolley problem isn't a hypothetical moral dilemma? no. Someone smarter than me needs to point out why this is flawed beyond that though.

She also added climate change to the mix because I guess she was feeling spicy

/sighs

This isn't how the trolley problem works.

As stated, the trolley problem is an exercise in morality, and is interesting in how it examines different people's moral perspective and how they react to different situations. Some people will believe that inaction leading to greater death is less accountable and 'guilty' than guaranteeing that one person dies. But I think most people, confronted with the classic trolley problem, will flip the switch, because saving five strangers and killing one is better than letting five day and letting one live.

But then you introduce the variable.

What if the five people are all terminal cancer patients and they're going to die in a few months anyway? (This is the doctor's dilemma problem, but it can be used on the trolley, too.)
What if there are five people on both sides of the tracks?
What if the one person is your child?

And on and on. Lily insists that bigger numbers are more important, but I'll cop to sending her an Ask (not with intention to troll, just curiosity) about whether Aliana would've glassed that planet if Rey had still been on it. Pretty sure she didn't answer. Wonder why.

However, the most important thing about the trolley problem -- and the reason it doesn't work in any kind of real-world context -- is because it's an absolute. It's a binary state. The train will either proceed forward and kill these people, or you can switch the track, save them, and kill only one. It's a guarantee.

None of these scenarios are guarantees. As SubarashiiRage pointed out, not only are there massive complexities behind each of them in a real-world sense, but it's assuming that action and inaction will always have a foreseeable outcome. In none of these cases is this true. We've found time and again through history that short-term 'feel good' solutions to problems oftentimes lead to massive, unforeseeable consequences. (Or fully foreseeable consequences that were ignored in favor of short-term solutions.)

Everybody looks at the trolley problem's first victims, but nobody runs further down the line to see who else this railway madman has tied to the tracks.

The fact that she thinks the trolley problem can be used as an abstraction for real-world dilemmas, and that these dilemmas only have 'good' and 'bad' as their outcomes (and that those binary outcomes are based on her own biases and willful ignorance) speaks volumes about her worldview.

In Lily's case she's used this as justification for Aliana glassing a planet to save 'trillions' of lives, and called this a classic trolley problem-- billions versus trillions. And therefore Aliana is right in doing what must be done. She's tried to establish a setup where the outcomes are certain and therefore Aliana must make a terrible sacrifice (of other people's lives, none of whom are important to her). And everybody agrees with her because trillion is bigger than billion therefore she must be justified.

But, again, the trolley problem deals in absolutes (like a Sith, I guess, that's kinda funny), and even in her own scenario this isn't an absolute. It's a possibility. There are multiple tracks that the trolley can follow. If Aliana pulls the lever, she ENSURES that billions of innocent people die. If she doesn't, there is a CHANCE that trillions will. So what's the correct answer? Genociding the planet is the immediate, short term, 'correct' choice, but what if you didn't have to do that and could run down to a station further along and make sure the trolley didn't run over the millions anyway? What if you could take the time to consider other options but you had to gamble with letting the planet live? What if they had bad information and they killed everybody when it turns out they didn't need to? Lily even specifies that they can't break the frequencies on the bioweapon manufacturers, so what if they had already gotten the samples off-world and Aliana killed billions of people for nothing?

That's in her own damn story, where it's supposed to be an obvious binary choice.

Honestly it kind of feels like she just learned what the Trolley Problem is and is shoving it into every scenario to justify her own binary view of the world without actually understanding its purpose as thought-experiment in ethical psychology.

 

[Son Goku Baku]

but what if you didn't have to do that and could run down to a station further along and make sure the trolley didn't run over the millions anyway? What if you could take the time to consider other options but you had to gamble with letting the planet live? What if they had bad information and they killed everybody when it turns out they didn't need to? Lily even specifies that they can't break the frequencies on the bioweapon manufacturers, so what if they had already gotten the samples off-world and Aliana killed billions of people for nothing?

That would have meant risking Lalaina not being right about something and having to actually deal with the real moral consequences of her actions. Liliana can't do that, it takes away from the wholesome soft lesbians.

I just said that but I'm still utterly perplexed as to why include the "genocide is necesary" subplot at all. If Liliana wanted an excuse to have an scene in which Rey comforts Lalaina (again), why genocide was even an option. My only guess is that is part of her power fantasy: being able to do something massively destructive and get away with it easily, just getting even more love and support as a result. A lot of the Valkyries's stories feels like that.

 

[Mac Tíre na Gealaí]

https://archive.ph/jijCe

Another self ask to sow lies, which just further proves morpmorp is another Lily puppet. Why else would she be paying attention to that page unless she was actively fighting on it the past week? She even brings up a specific instance with the claim of abuse in the last part that morpmorp was fighting over.

"Duped", cuz you know, having multiple instances of documented and archived proof that Lily fucking Orchard worked on Stockholm are just lies. Because she said so. No other reason, no proof to the contrary, just because she says it's a lie. I'd almost feel sorry for the people that believe her if they weren't some of the most gullible people imaginable. How fucking warped must your perception be to just swallow Lily's bait hook line and sinker without any thought to the contrary?

 

[starborn427614]

https://archive.ph/jijCe

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Another self ask to sow lies, which just further proves morpmorp is another Lily puppet. Why else would she be paying attention to that page unless she was actively fighting on it the past week? She even brings up a specific instance with the claim of abuse in the last part that morpmorp was fighting over.

"Duped", cuz you know, having multiple instances of documented and archived proof that Lily fucking Orchard worked on Stockholm are just lies. Because she said so. No other reason, no proof to the contrary, just because she says it's a lie. I'd almost feel sorry for the people that believe her if they weren't some of the most gullible people imaginable. How fucking warped must your perception be to just swallow Lily's bait hook line and sinker without any thought to the contrary?

Forgive me if I don't shed a tear for a known liar who continually argues in bad faith.

 

[The Iconoclast]

Aaaah sorry for the influx of pics

https://archive.ph/jijCe

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Another self ask to sow lies, which just further proves morpmorp is another Lily puppet. Why else would she be paying attention to that page unless she was actively fighting on it the past week? She even brings up a specific instance with the claim of abuse in the last part that morpmorp was fighting over.

"Duped", cuz you know, having multiple instances of documented and archived proof that Lily fucking Orchard worked on Stockholm are just lies. Because she said so. No other reason, no proof to the contrary, just because she says it's a lie. I'd almost feel sorry for the people that believe her if they weren't some of the most gullible people imaginable. How fucking warped must your perception be to just swallow Lily's bait hook line and sinker without any thought to the contrary?

Ah, right, haven't updated on the TVT stuff in a sec,

I'm gonna start by talking a bit about the post Jerry makes, he uses a lot of the same phrasing that morpmorp has used, like saying people who edit his pages are trying to turn them into a "dossier" on him, and his fixation on the "allegedly" thing. It's also interesting that he tries to grandstand about the people on TVT not doing anything worthwhile while 1, Jerry does the same exact thing on his Tumblr blog, 2, if maintaining the site is a favorite pastime of theirs, then different strokes, and 3, who are we kidding, this isn't the first time he's made this kind of argument lmao. I'm also sure that the "mods have been duped into adding actual lies onto the page" thing is a direct reference to the fact that Stockholm now sits comfortably on his main creator page. lol cry harder pedo

Fairly notable too, morpmorp's activity has kinda slowed down a bit. Either Jerry's waiting to weather the storm or realized that he's in too hot and began to bail.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=98035&type=att

Pick yourself up,
Take a deep breath,
Dust yourself off, and
Staart all ooover again!

A relatively new user who has edited the Pokemadhouse page a few times decided to bring morpmorp to the attention of the other users and the mods due to morpmorp's evident obsessive editing.

Here are a few of the replies.

Incidentally this and the posts spoilered below covers the "fat Kirsten and Marah" thing that Jerry was complaining about, so he was very off-base with it, doing his usual appeal to ridicule thing where he strawmans arguments and makes them out to sound incredibly stupid to the uninformed. I'll annoyingly reiterate again that I don't care much for Madhouse but from what I read from the editors of the page in its YMMV discussion area, they seem to be actual readers and actual fans with fairly balanced grievances (and individuals who care about the general quality of the site who don't have a stake in Jerry's online presence), and by deleting/trivializing these greivances, morpmorp, under the near-certain assumption that they're Jerry, is telling them that their opinions or feelings on his story are just wrong. And that's just no way to be a writer.

Spoiler: Some Poke-Madhouse discussion

Some of the work on TVT is also just cleanup and maintaining internal consistency from users who didn't give a crap about Jerry prior to all of this, one look at MichaelKatsuro's edits will tell you that. His first edit on anything related to Jerry was on the 10th of March, which I think is when all of this began.

So here's another comment on the morpmorp ATT discussion;

Yeah I color coded it, originally I wanted to link related arguments by color but then realized kittyfo's entire response addressed what I selected in red for morpmorp. Oops, heheh. Basically, it's showing that morpmorp removes things that look like vandalism and creator bashing to them, without any regard for intent. That sounds like an incredibly Jerry thing to do, to definitively decide intent before weighing in on it, without any regard for analytical nuance. I saw an instance where Jerry had decided that a certain interpretation for an Avatar episode was the correct one and anyone who challenged it were dubbed fucking idiots, or hell, just look at all of the SU saga.

In other words, you either agree with Jerry, or you're wrong.

I highlighted dossier because that'a frequent word morpmorp uses that Jerry just so happened to use.

Pay attention to what's highlighted in turquoise, especially toward the end of that selection. Keep that tucked away in your brain, er, pockets.
It's fine for me to rip a joke from hbomberguy because I'm not a hack like Jerry whose style of humor centers around being unoriginal

Neeeext,

Even someone who feeds into his persecution complex acknowledges Jerry's hatedom thinks morpmorp's a little too obsessive.

"Unless they're Orchard themselves" BASED BASED BASED BASED

As a reminder the "abusive" thing is in relation to referring to Lizzy as abusive on the wiki page for Madhouse. Eliwood here says that the consensus on the relevant thread was that the word "abusive" shouldn't be used when referring to a real person, or that "allegedly" should be added. And if you check the thread, that's exactly what's being said.

In fact, even a mod agreed that this is what should be done.

Ask The Tropers - TV Tropes

tvtropes.org

But regardless morpmorp made their own relevant edits and deleted anything else that challenged them, regardless of the actual consensus of the site's users.

(the percent signs make the word invisible, it's like using hash marks on lines of Python code, this was definitely a tongue in cheek way to go with what the majority of users involved wanted while not doing it - par for the course for Jerry, I know he's done this kind of thing before)

Next,

That's... whew. That's magnificently spot-on, considering what Jerry posted a few hours later (TVT time is still off btw). A few people made a few edits, morpmorp got into edit wars with them and repeatedly brought more and more controversy to the point where Jerry was able to cry "BIAS! BIAS! LOOK AT ALL THE VULTURES, STALKERS, AND HARASSERS!" on Tumblr.

Final bit I'm gonna share for now,

They're paying attention to Jerry's Tumblr as well. TVT doesn't really seem like a site privvy to an overabundance of drama so my guess is that the conversation is gonna get locked, topics about Jerry are gonna get deleted, and pages about Jerry are likely going to be edit-locked. As another user puts it, there are three Ask the Tropers threads devoted to Jerry and some tug of war related to issues with his personal life. I think a mod is gonna put this to an end very soon.


My closing thoughts for this episode of Jerry's TVT drama are... Jerry, why would you create a series of articles on yourself and your works on a public wiki-type website for fans to read and edit, and then get mad when fans proceed to edit it with their thoughts?

Or to make my thoughts more concise...

 

[SubarashiiRage]

Aaaah sorry for the influx of pics


Ah, right, haven't updated on the TVT stuff in a sec,

I'm gonna start by talking a bit about the post Jerry makes, he uses a lot of the same phrasing that morpmorp has used, like saying people who edit his pages are trying to turn them into a "dossier" on him, and his fixation on the "allegedly" thing. It's also interesting that he tries to grandstand about the people on TVT not doing anything worthwhile while 1, Jerry does the same exact thing on his Tumblr blog, 2, if maintaining the site is a favorite pastime of theirs, then different strokes, and 3, who are we kidding, this isn't the first time he's made this kind of argument lmao. I'm also sure that the "mods have been duped into adding actual lies onto the page" thing is a direct reference to the fact that Stockholm now sits comfortably on his main creator page. lol cry harder pedo

Fairly notable too, morpmorp's activity has kinda slowed down a bit. Either Jerry's waiting to weather the storm or realized that he's in too hot.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=98035&type=att

View attachment 1992368

Pick yourself up,
Take a deep breath,
Dust yourself off, and
Staart all ooover again!

A relatively new user who has edited the Pokemadhouse page a few times decided to bring morpmorp to the attention of the other users and the mods due to morpmorp's evident obsessive editing.

Here are a few of the replies.

View attachment 1994593

Incidentally this and the posts spoilered below covers the "fat Kirsten and Marah" thing that Jerry was complaining about, so he was very off-base with it, doing his usual appeal to ridicule thing where he strawmans arguments and makes them out to sound incredibly stupid to the uninformed. I'll annoyingly reiterate again that I don't care much for Madhouse but from what I read from the editors of the page in its YMMV discussion area, they seem to be actual readers and actual fans with fairly balanced grievances, and by deleting/trivializing these greivances, morpmorp, under the near-certain assumption that they're Jerry, is telling them that their opinions or feelings on his story are just wrong. And that's just no way to be a writer.

Spoiler: Some Poke-Madhouse discussion

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Some of the work on TVT is also just cleanup and maintaining internal consistency from users who didn't give a crap about Jerry prior to all of this, one look at MichaelKatsuro's edits will tell you that. His first edit on anything related to Jerry was on the 10th of March, which I think is when all of this began.
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So here's another comment on the morpmorp ATT discussion;
View attachment 1994665

Yeah I color coded it, originally I wanted to link related arguments by color but then realized kittyfo's entire response addressed what I selected in red for morpmorp. Oops, heheh. Basically, it's showing that morpmorp removes things that look like vandalism and creator bashing to them, without any regard for intent. That sounds like an incredibly Jerry thing to do, to definitively decide intent before weighing in on it, without any regard for analytical nuance. I saw an instance where Jerry had decided that a certain interpretation for an Avatar episode was the correct one and anyone who challenged it were dubbed fucking idiots, or hell, just look at all of the SU saga.

In other words, you either agree with Jerry, or you're wrong.

I highlighted dossier because that'a frequent word morpmorp uses that Jerry just so happened to use.

Pay attention to what's highlighted in turquoise, especially toward the end of that selection. Keep that tucked away in your brain, er, pockets.
It's fine for me to rip a joke from hbomberguy because I'm not a hack like Jerry whose style of humor centers around being unoriginal

Neeeext,
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Even someone who feeds into his persecution complex acknowledges Jerry's hatedom thinks morpmorp's a little too obsessive.


View attachment 1994777

"Unless they're Orchard themselves" BASED BASED BASED BASED

As a reminder the "abusive" thing is in relation to referring to Lizzy as abusive on the wiki page for Madhouse. Eliwood here says that the consensus on the relevant thread was that the word "abusive" shouldn't be used when referring to a real person, or that "allegedly" should be added. And if you check the thread,

In fact, even a mod agreed that this is what should be done.

Ask The Tropers - TV Tropes

tvtropes.org

View attachment 1994793
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But regardless morpmorp made their own relevant edits and deleted anything else that challenged them, regardless of the actual consensus of the site's users.

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(the percent signs make the word invisible, it's like using hash marks on Python)

Next,
View attachment 1994807

That's... whew. That's magnificently spot-on, considering what Jerry posted a few hours later (TVT time is still off btw). A few people made a few edits, morpmorp got into edit wars with them and repeatedly brought more and more controversy to the point where Jerry was able to cry "BIAS! BIAS! LOOK AT ALL THE VULTURES, STALKERS, AND HARASSERS!" on Tumblr.

Final bit I'm gonna share for now,
View attachment 1994864

They're paying attention to Jerry's Tumblr as well. TVT doesn't really seem like a site privvy to an overabundance of drama so my guess is that the conversation is gonna get locked, topics about Jerry are gonna get deleted, and pages about Jerry are likely going to be edit-locked. As another user puts it, there are three Ask the Tropers threads devoted to Jerry and some tug of war related to issues with his personal life. I think a mod is gonna put this to an end very soon.


My closing thoughts for this episode of Jerry's TVT drama are... Jerry, why would you create a series of articles on yourself and your works on a public wiki-type website for fans to read and edit, and then get mad when fans proceed to edit it with their thoughts?

Or to make my thoughts more concise...

this whole TVT Arc is more engaging, fun, emotional and well written than anything Lily has ever made
but morpmorp is a antagonistic character with confused motives that doesn't have much coherence in his actions, I wonder if we will have a flashback to explain his story

 

[Son Goku Baku]

this whole TVT Arc is more engaging, fun, emotional and well written than anything Lily has ever made
but morpmorp is a antagonistic character with confused motives that doesn't have much coherence in his actions, I wonder if we will have a flashback to explain his story

Maybe later we'll find out that was a lesbian all along on a sexual relationship with their sister.

 

[Lurkio]

Aaaah sorry for the influx of pics


Ah, right, haven't updated on the TVT stuff in a sec,

I'm gonna start by talking a bit about the post Jerry makes, he uses a lot of the same phrasing that morpmorp has used, like saying people who edit his pages are trying to turn them into a "dossier" on him, and his fixation on the "allegedly" thing. It's also interesting that he tries to grandstand about the people on TVT not doing anything worthwhile while 1, Jerry does the same exact thing on his Tumblr blog, 2, if maintaining the site is a favorite pastime of theirs, then different strokes, and 3, who are we kidding, this isn't the first time he's made this kind of argument lmao. I'm also sure that the "mods have been duped into adding actual lies onto the page" thing is a direct reference to the fact that Stockholm now sits comfortably on his main creator page. lol cry harder pedo

Fairly notable too, morpmorp's activity has kinda slowed down a bit. Either Jerry's waiting to weather the storm or realized that he's in too hot.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=98035&type=att

View attachment 1992368

Pick yourself up,
Take a deep breath,
Dust yourself off, and
Staart all ooover again!

A relatively new user who has edited the Pokemadhouse page a few times decided to bring morpmorp to the attention of the other users and the mods due to morpmorp's evident obsessive editing.

Here are a few of the replies.

View attachment 1994593

Incidentally this and the posts spoilered below covers the "fat Kirsten and Marah" thing that Jerry was complaining about, so he was very off-base with it, doing his usual appeal to ridicule thing where he strawmans arguments and makes them out to sound incredibly stupid to the uninformed. I'll annoyingly reiterate again that I don't care much for Madhouse but from what I read from the editors of the page in its YMMV discussion area, they seem to be actual readers and actual fans with fairly balanced grievances (and individuals who care about the general quality of the site who don't have a stake in Jerry's online presence), and by deleting/trivializing these greivances, morpmorp, under the near-certain assumption that they're Jerry, is telling them that their opinions or feelings on his story are just wrong. And that's just no way to be a writer.

Spoiler: Some Poke-Madhouse discussion

View attachment 1994654
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Some of the work on TVT is also just cleanup and maintaining internal consistency from users who didn't give a crap about Jerry prior to all of this, one look at MichaelKatsuro's edits will tell you that. His first edit on anything related to Jerry was on the 10th of March, which I think is when all of this began.
View attachment 1994671


So here's another comment on the morpmorp ATT discussion;
View attachment 1994665

Yeah I color coded it, originally I wanted to link related arguments by color but then realized kittyfo's entire response addressed what I selected in red for morpmorp. Oops, heheh. Basically, it's showing that morpmorp removes things that look like vandalism and creator bashing to them, without any regard for intent. That sounds like an incredibly Jerry thing to do, to definitively decide intent before weighing in on it, without any regard for analytical nuance. I saw an instance where Jerry had decided that a certain interpretation for an Avatar episode was the correct one and anyone who challenged it were dubbed fucking idiots, or hell, just look at all of the SU saga.

In other words, you either agree with Jerry, or you're wrong.

I highlighted dossier because that'a frequent word morpmorp uses that Jerry just so happened to use.

Pay attention to what's highlighted in turquoise, especially toward the end of that selection. Keep that tucked away in your brain, er, pockets.
It's fine for me to rip a joke from hbomberguy because I'm not a hack like Jerry whose style of humor centers around being unoriginal

Neeeext,
View attachment 1994698

Even someone who feeds into his persecution complex acknowledges Jerry's hatedom thinks morpmorp's a little too obsessive.


View attachment 1994777

"Unless they're Orchard themselves" BASED BASED BASED BASED

As a reminder the "abusive" thing is in relation to referring to Lizzy as abusive on the wiki page for Madhouse. Eliwood here says that the consensus on the relevant thread was that the word "abusive" shouldn't be used when referring to a real person, or that "allegedly" should be added. And if you check the thread,

In fact, even a mod agreed that this is what should be done.

Ask The Tropers - TV Tropes

tvtropes.org

View attachment 1994793
View attachment 1994795

But regardless morpmorp made their own relevant edits and deleted anything else that challenged them, regardless of the actual consensus of the site's users.

View attachment 1994809
View attachment 1994813
(the percent signs make the word invisible, it's like using hash marks on lines of Python code, this was definitely a tongue in cheek way to go with what the majority of users involved wanted while not doing it - par for the course for Jerry, I know he's done this kind of thing before)

Next,
View attachment 1994807

That's... whew. That's magnificently spot-on, considering what Jerry posted a few hours later (TVT time is still off btw). A few people made a few edits, morpmorp got into edit wars with them and repeatedly brought more and more controversy to the point where Jerry was able to cry "BIAS! BIAS! LOOK AT ALL THE VULTURES, STALKERS, AND HARASSERS!" on Tumblr.

Final bit I'm gonna share for now,
View attachment 1994864

They're paying attention to Jerry's Tumblr as well. TVT doesn't really seem like a site privvy to an overabundance of drama so my guess is that the conversation is gonna get locked, topics about Jerry are gonna get deleted, and pages about Jerry are likely going to be edit-locked. As another user puts it, there are three Ask the Tropers threads devoted to Jerry and some tug of war related to issues with his personal life. I think a mod is gonna put this to an end very soon.


My closing thoughts for this episode of Jerry's TVT drama are... Jerry, why would you create a series of articles on yourself and your works on a public wiki-type website for fans to read and edit, and then get mad when fans proceed to edit it with their thoughts?

Or to make my thoughts more concise...

It baffles me that, even after all this time, Lily still makes the same mistakes she made over a decade ago. You'd figure by now she'd learns some new tricks or at least figured out how to be less obvious at sock-puppeting. But nope, even after a decade and with far more resources at her disposal she still does the same, dumb shit she did at the Escapest forms, Derpibooru, and Tumblr.

I know not learning from past mistakes is typical lolcow behavior, but it's just amazing how Lily doesn't just "not learn", she seems to go out of her way not to learn.

 

[The Iconoclast]

It baffles me that, even after all this time, Lily still makes the same mistakes she made over a decade ago. You'd figure by now she'd learns some new tricks or at least figured out how to be less obvious at sock-puppeting. But nope, even after a decade and with far more resources at her disposal she still does the same, dumb shit she did at the Escapest forms, Derpibooru, and Tumblr.

I know not learning from past mistakes is typical lolcow behavior, but it's just amazing how Lily doesn't just "not learn", she seems to go out of her way not to learn.

For real. He could at least throw us off by using different grammar or writing quirks, like I'm 100% convinced that despite generally supporting Jerry, and their actions in this event notwithstanding, kittyfo isn't Jerry due to their noticeably different grammar and typing quirks. With Jerry, it's kind of gotten easy to pick out due to how proper and with an air of superiority he likes to write, we've seen it with Tara, Alchorative, Sorfabuna on Reddit*, Ebara, and now morpmorp. Like, you can read all their posts in his puberty-ass voice without any problems.

*Sorfabuna is a more obscure example brought up like twice a long time ago but it's an account that frequently defended Jerry, especially on Gamerghazi, has the same signature writing style and made a lot of the same points he did about thinks like SU; there's Sylvanas mention in there too so anyone who knows his opinions on Sylvanas, maybe cross-check it, account hasn't been used in 6 months tho

Here's an archive I made back then with more pertinent examples

 

[Dahlia Hawthorne]

I bet she doesn’t even use a VPN or something to hide her IP address. If the TV tropes mods were actually competent programmers (lmao) they’d be able to look at morpmorp and say “huh. Canada?”

 

[ShiftyBoi]

It baffles me that, even after all this time, Lily still makes the same mistakes she made over a decade ago. You'd figure by now she'd learns some new tricks or at least figured out how to be less obvious at sock-puppeting. But nope, even after a decade and with far more resources at her disposal she still does the same, dumb shit she did at the Escapest forms, Derpibooru, and Tumblr.

I know not learning from past mistakes is typical lolcow behavior, but it's just amazing how Lily doesn't just "not learn", she seems to go out of her way not to learn.

Maybe she's so spiteful that whatever the forum says is a good or bad, she does the opposite.

Quick, everyone give sound financial advice.

For real. He could at least throw us off by using different grammar or writing quirks, like I'm 100% convinced that despite generally supporting Jerry, and their actions in this event notwithstanding, kittyfo isn't Jerry due to their noticeably different grammar and typing quirks. With Jerry, it's kind of gotten easy to pick out due to how proper and with an air of superiority he likes to write, we've seen it with Tara, Alchorative, Sorfabuna on Reddit*, Ebara, and now morpmorp. Like, you can read all their posts in his puberty-ass voice without any problems.

*Sorfabuna is a more obscure example brought up like twice a long time ago but it's an account that frequently defended Jerry, especially on Gamerghazi, has the same signature writing style and made a lot of the same points he did about thinks like SU; there's Sylvanas mention in there too so anyone who knows his opinions on Sylvanas, maybe cross-check it, account hasn't been used in 6 months tho

Here's an archive I made back then with more pertinent examples

I ain't so good at picking up on writing styles. I get the snide tone, but what are some other hallmarks of Lily's writing style?
The only other thing I can glean is her style of punctuation.

 

[Mac Tíre na Gealaí]

For real. He could at least throw us off by using different grammar or writing quirks, like I'm 100% convinced that despite generally supporting Jerry, and their actions in this event notwithstanding, kittyfo isn't Jerry due to their noticeably different grammar and typing quirks. With Jerry, it's kind of gotten easy to pick out due to how proper and with an air of superiority he likes to write, we've seen it with Tara, Alchorative, Sorfabuna on Reddit*, Ebara, and now morpmorp. Like, you can read all their posts in his puberty-ass voice without any problems.

*Sorfabuna is a more obscure example brought up like twice a long time ago but it's an account that frequently defended Jerry, especially on Gamerghazi, has the same signature writing style and made a lot of the same points he did about thinks like SU; there's Sylvanas mention in there too so anyone who knows his opinions on Sylvanas, maybe cross-check it, account hasn't been used in 6 months tho

Here's an archive I made back then with more pertinent examples

Yup, not even subtle, there are some WoW posts on there that are basically opinions she's shared verbatim elsewhere. It looks like she jumped to an account that is her actual name, but it hasn't seen much use: https://www.reddit.com/user/LilianOrchard/overview

 

[The Iconoclast]

Maybe she's so spiteful that whatever the forum says is a good or bad, she does the opposite.

Quick, everyone give sound financial advice.

I ain't so good at picking up on writing styles. I get the snide tone, but what are some other hallmarks of Lily's writing style?
The only other thing I can glean is her style of punctuation.

I can’t really explain it, but I can try to put it into words...
Punctuation, type of words used (“dossier” so close to each other, “ghoulish”, etc), snide, self-aggrandizing, superior than thou tone... even spelling or grammar sometimes, like how he would capitalize the C in “4Chan” or “8Chan”, or use “it’s” when he should have used “its” (which is very present in Josh’s first “Response to Bhaalspawn” video).

I feel like these are a fair amount of those hallmarks.

 

[X-Shaped Weeaboo]

I can’t really explain it, but I can try to put it into words...
Punctuation, type of words used (“dossier” so close to each other, “ghoulish”, etc), snide, self-aggrandizing, superior than thou tone... even spelling or grammar sometimes, like how he would capitalize the C in “4Chan” or “8Chan”, or use “it’s” when he should have used “its” (which is very present in Josh’s first “Response to Bhaalspawn” video).

I feel like these are a fair amount of those hallmarks.

Here's another one.

Jerry will reference a community opinion, but if you try to cross-reference it or find an example of whatever Jerry tries to claim is common knowledge you won't find anything.

It's hard to post examples of this as it's basically asking to miss on purpose, but things like the Sylvana stuff, the "overmasculine Pokemon are the most popular" shtick he does, anything referencing the Brony community...

I've spent some time trying to find examples of any of these things in Jerry's favor, even hitting up specific terminology on dedicated forums and Discord servers and nothing ever comes up, especially when it comes to his gaming opinons.

 

[thebananaonion]

Here's another one.

Jerry will reference a community opinion, but if you try to cross-reference it or find an example of whatever Jerry tries to claim is common knowledge you won't find anything.

It's hard to post examples of this as it's basically asking to miss on purpose, but things like the Sylvana stuff, the "overmasculine Pokemon are the most popular" shtick he does, anything referencing the Brony community...

I've spent some time trying to find examples of any of these things in Jerry's favor, even hitting up specific terminology on dedicated forums and Discord servers and nothing ever comes up, especially when it comes to his gaming opinons.

i think in her top 10 (or x number) video she mentiones something about that masculine pokemon thing. could be wrong but i swear she's mentioned this somewhere atleast. maybe she references josh himself because he also loved gallade (even tho in his top X he has gardevoir above gallade), She also heavily prefairs feminin pokemon because 'boys stupid lol' mentality she has. I get it, if you like feminin things just because you like feminin things thats fine, but lily does it out of spite.


on a different note; how can we be sure all of these things we've labled as 'self asks' from anons are actually all from her?
I know its really likely but who's not to say a fan of her stalks the kiwifarm thread to only be like 'look, lily, look! The kiwi farmers are being mweeen again : ('

we know she stalks the thread for sure, but who's to say her fans dont do the same things and only ask them in anons because- well reasons to many to list.

just a thought.

 

[Devil-Man]

I bet she doesn’t even use a VPN or something to hide her IP address. If the TV tropes mods were actually competent programmers (lmao) they’d be able to look at morpmorp and say “huh. Canada?”

I think I remember spotting a VPN icon on his browser during a livestream a while back. I think it was Dashlane, but I could be wrong. Whether he's smart enough to use it while posting online is debatable.
That aside, I'm not against adding morpmorp to the aliases in the thread, as it is just as credible as Ebara being real.

Anyway, here's a few more edits from StrawberryMiltank.

History for NightmareFuel/Stockholm - TV Tropes

tvtropes.org

https://archive.ph/NOTiV

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Heartwarming.Stockholm

https://archive.ph/7cfD7

I also took the pleasure in archiving all the Poke-Madhouse TVT pages/discussions/histories as well. If I'm forgetting any other Jerry-related articles, let me know.

Lastly, another Bloodborne livestream.

Let's Torture Lily (Bloodborne) 3

Sourcehttps://tinyurl.com/3btfu325Original linkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQuu-PBRAQA#lilyorchard #bhalspawn #valkyrstudios

www.youtube.com

 

[ShiftyBoi]

I can’t really explain it, but I can try to put it into words...
Punctuation, type of words used (“dossier” so close to each other, “ghoulish”, etc), snide, self-aggrandizing, superior than thou tone... even spelling or grammar sometimes, like how he would capitalize the C in “4Chan” or “8Chan”, or use “it’s” when he should have used “its” (which is very present in Josh’s first “Response to Bhaalspawn” video).

I feel like these are a fair amount of those hallmarks.

Words like "Fixating" & "Obsession" are other ones. So is "on *this/that/their* bullshit"
When refuting someone she is very predisposed to bad faith word choice, often implying the other person is insecure or malicious. She can almost never use a neutral voice.
Like here's one of the examples from morpmorp (assuming it's Lily)

"Why does it bother you so much"
On top of that many paragraphs or statements end with a short sequitur. I know that's standard shit in writing but I'm looking for a pattern here.
Like here's some simping for Moviebob from a week ago, let's compare.

Lily Orchard's Official Tumblr

archived 14 Mar 2021 06:51:33 UTC

archive.li

Bullshit is one of her favorite curses apparently.
Anyway notice the good faith terminology for movieBob and the lack of such for Lindsay Ellis. Words like "adolescent" and "clique" are used in reference to Ellis. This goes with what I was saying, she assigns a personality to people she disagrees with instead of refuting them neutrally.
(I guarantee she wrote the ask too because she didn't react nearly as angrily as she normally would've to a statement like this.)

Could all be coincidence but who knows.

 

[Son Goku Baku]

I think I remember spotting a VPN icon on his browser during a livestream a while back. I think it was Dashlane, but I could be wrong. Whether he's smart enough to use it while posting online is debatable.
That aside, I'm not against adding morpmorp to the aliases in the thread, as it is just as credible as Ebara being a real.

Anyway, here's a few more edits from StrawberryMiltank.

History for NightmareFuel/Stockholm - TV Tropes

tvtropes.org

https://archive.ph/NOTiV

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Heartwarming.Stockholm

https://archive.ph/7cfD7

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I also took the pleasure in archiving all the Poke-Madhouse TVT pages/discussions/histories as well. If I'm forgetting any other Jerry-related articles, let me know.

Lastly, another Bloodborne livestream.

Let's Torture Lily (Bloodborne) 3

Sourcehttps://tinyurl.com/3btfu325Original linkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQuu-PBRAQA#lilyorchard #bhalspawn #valkyrstudios

www.youtube.com

They actually added the Josh Scorcher bit lmao Just a little correction: the character's not based on him, it's literally Josh's OC/avatar that he uses on his Youtube channel. Unless my timeline is off (someone correct me if so) Liliana was either a fan of Josh or a personal friend when she decided to do that.

Could you add somewhere how Ascentia is a original character that originated on the Valkirie stories and she keeps using her even today on her AU Scars, as the aunt of a kid that hold incestuous feeling for her mother? That was one of the things that convinced me that the whole text couldn't be written by anyone else but Liliana, because who else would care enough about Ascentia specifically. Maybe slip too that Liliana'd "allegedly" forced Lizzy into making porn of Ascentia and Twilight together? Thank you, love your work.

I agree that people should just block people like Moviebob at sight, but as far I understand soft blocking is meant to be a non confrontational way to tell the other person off. It's saying you aren't interested to be friends but don't want to keep contact with them either. According to Ellis, she had done that more than one time already for Moviebob to take a hint and the guy just refused to get it until she had no other option to actually tell him off.

I like the fact that when she yells at a fan for thick fanart she's justified, despite she being terrible at putting out concrete rules of easy access to anyone who wants to submit works, but if a woman she doesn't like does it to a guy she likes then it's her fault for being a weirdo in the first place. How feminist and progressive of Liliana.