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Too mundane Kevin. Don't be such a cishet normie, what you want is something really progressive like a cassowary.
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Kevin "shared revenge porn" of someone?
Who we thinking this is, wedge?
Or maybe that one from the Tranch who was always fed posting and seething and posted something a month ago about how in a few weeks he was finally gonna be rid of ableist cunts?
is Aegis not the name of that average dicked dude dude who couldn't break down the doors of the Amhole?
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I think you are right.
I have a vague memory of wedge calling himself commie scum on twitter.
Plus the ghastly video. That has to have been shared by someone in the first place.
To be fair to Kevin, he probably just wanted to share the video with his “girlfriends” because he thought it was sexy (vomit), but it found its way onto this thread.
Kevin is stupid, so it probably didn’t occur to him that once the video is shared, it’s up forever.
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Yeah... But wasn't wedge calling himself a sex worker or pornstar or something at one point? Or that video was supposed to be sold anyway?
I suppose that makes little difference when you're an insane vengeful troon though.
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I don't think it's either. No proof though.
No, that was Diz Astra. Aegis Blue is a post flagging facility on Bluesky.
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I don't think so. If you search "transcommiescum bsky", the search results show some cached previous bios for the account:
These that don't line up with what we know about Wedge - who has never claimed brain injury or long covid as far as I know. It's hard to check because his previous account got deleted, and his new one only racked up 750-ish posts before he abandonedit, but this was his list of maladies from my original dox:
He could have started claiming brain injury/covid recently, of course - he had a whole deaf thing going for a while, which isn't listed here - but there's also this tweet:
Wedge has been no-contact with his cult member evil abusive etc etc family since at least 2015, to the point he was suprised they knew his address.
There's also the fact their posting styles are pretty different (TCS has way less porn on his timeline than I'd expect Wedge to be able to manage, for one, and schizoposts way more than Wedge ever did for two). And also Kevin mentioned that he basically only knew TCS because they dated a partner very briefly and he met them / messaged them like once. That doesn't line up with Kevin and Wedge's "relationship"; Kevin could be lying but I usually assume he's not bright enough for that.
tl;dr I'd be surprised transcommiescum is Wedge... but nonetheless I am intrigued. Anyone remember any tranch orbiters / minor characters claiming brain injury or long covid?
There's endless troons who claim to be communists, and many of them use "commie scum" ironically, so this is probably just a coincidence. Also this guy's whole thing is Being A Schizoposting Communist, whereas Wedge I think mostly whined about communism in the context of wanting gibs so.
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So TCS is that one?
Then yes, that isn’t wedge, unless Kevin is completely now retconning his “relationship” with wedge.
Which I doubt even Kevin would do because it’s the only evidence of him having the amazing sex he claims to have.
The only thing that seems a bit strange is that Kevin hadn’t denied this revenge porn thing.
It didn’t sound like they had enough of anything to even share ghastly cockless nudes, so if Kevin has been spreading this guys noodz, then that is really shitty.
It’s bad enough sharing nudes of an ex out of spite or anger, but it can be “excused” or explained to a certain extent if it was done out of post break up hurt.
Pain and emotional loss can mess up a person’s rational thinking. (Troons are barely rational at the best of times)
But in this instance, it must be that Kevin sought the nudes out and then posted them.
If he hadn’t posted anything, he would have just denied it instead of vague posting.
So basically Kevin is pissed off that in this circumstance he is an undeniably shitty person and he can’t turn it on someone else.
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Okay, so, I did some digging on this guy in an attempt to work out who the hell he is, and oooh boy do I have a treat for you, fellow Kiwis.
So for starters, whoever he is, he's not Wedge. He's 40 years old, has posted a bunch of other uninteresting stuff about his family history that doesn't line up with Wedge at all, and more importantly, he was only ever dating Jen / Norintha / Michael, The Shit Eater:
(link, archive)
His last interaction with Kevin was 7 years ago, prior to this bsky fight where Kevin threatened to release his nudes because of some other twitter troon called Kairi having beef with TCS or vice versa. I don't know the details, and I don't really care honestly.
(link, archive)
But this is where it gets juicy: after Kev Kev waded in threatening to share TCS' names / nudes with Kairi, TCS decides to drop a few interesting tidbits about Kevin and the Tranchers. He accuses Shiteater et al. (the "some bs from the rest of the post" is referring to Norintha's bsky post in the spoilered screenshots above) of 1) being in a BDSM Discord server where people were doing sex roleplay with a minor (and hiding it from TCS), 2) standing and doing nothing while ("their Domme") Penny sexually assaulted him / broke his BDSM boundaries on their first meeting, and 3) Penny being an "ancap/libertarian weirdo" (which is not on the same level as the other two, but I personally find hilarious).
(link, archive)
(link, archive)
[insert a bunch of commiesperging I didn't want to archive here]
(link 1, link 2; archive 1, archive 2)
The sexual assault accusations are cast into doubt by this very civil tweet, presumably at Kevin, from a few months ago pre-meltdown, which mentions "that Domme" without also mentioning being assaulted, so who knows what the truth is...
(link, archive)
(P.S. if anyone knows what that "blocked post" thing is all about / how to get round it, please let me know. I'm not blocked by Kevin as far as I can tell, so I don't really understand why I can't see the post / reply...)
And finally, to round things off, have some funny posts about Kevin:
There could be some other stuff I've missed related to Kevin, since I found this through searching for keywords not scrolling back to the full drama, but this is probably the most important of it. tl;dr Penny sexually assaulted another troon and Kevin/Jen/others may have done sex roleplay with a minor on Discord. Troons are perverts and sex criminals, water is wet, etc. etc.
So for starters, whoever he is, he's not Wedge. He's 40 years old, has posted a bunch of other uninteresting stuff about his family history that doesn't line up with Wedge at all, and more importantly, he was only ever dating Jen / Norintha / Michael, The Shit Eater:
(link, archive)
His last interaction with Kevin was 7 years ago, prior to this bsky fight where Kevin threatened to release his nudes because of some other twitter troon called Kairi having beef with TCS or vice versa. I don't know the details, and I don't really care honestly.
(link, archive)
But this is where it gets juicy: after Kev Kev waded in threatening to share TCS' names / nudes with Kairi, TCS decides to drop a few interesting tidbits about Kevin and the Tranchers. He accuses Shiteater et al. (the "some bs from the rest of the post" is referring to Norintha's bsky post in the spoilered screenshots above) of 1) being in a BDSM Discord server where people were doing sex roleplay with a minor (and hiding it from TCS), 2) standing and doing nothing while ("their Domme") Penny sexually assaulted him / broke his BDSM boundaries on their first meeting, and 3) Penny being an "ancap/libertarian weirdo" (which is not on the same level as the other two, but I personally find hilarious).
(link, archive)
(link, archive)
[insert a bunch of commiesperging I didn't want to archive here]
(link 1, link 2; archive 1, archive 2)
The sexual assault accusations are cast into doubt by this very civil tweet, presumably at Kevin, from a few months ago pre-meltdown, which mentions "that Domme" without also mentioning being assaulted, so who knows what the truth is...
(link, archive)
(P.S. if anyone knows what that "blocked post" thing is all about / how to get round it, please let me know. I'm not blocked by Kevin as far as I can tell, so I don't really understand why I can't see the post / reply...)
And finally, to round things off, have some funny posts about Kevin:
There could be some other stuff I've missed related to Kevin, since I found this through searching for keywords not scrolling back to the full drama, but this is probably the most important of it. tl;dr Penny sexually assaulted another troon and Kevin/Jen/others may have done sex roleplay with a minor on Discord. Troons are perverts and sex criminals, water is wet, etc. etc.
I have some more info on him but I'm not convinced I can be bothered to go for a full dox. Outside the commieposting, he's got a pretty typical troon story (grew up in an evil Christian republican family; mommy never loved me and daddy was a monster; I have PoC heritage two generations back so I'm not an oppressor; muh mentulz and muh disability; college educated but can't hold down a job; too disabled to work; has been homeless, has been a drug addict, has been a prosititue; etc. etc.).
He was also apparently never on Twitter/tumblr, which means I've only got a few years of bsky to use (which are mostly full of aforementioned commieposting). And while he's not the opsec genius he thinks he is, he's at least smart enough to not post his troon name or dead name online and I've not been able to find a birthdate either. If people are interested in a deeper dive (and/or have more information; more powerful autists than I might remember a hotel stay / partner of Shiteater's from 7 years ago...), then let me know, but otherwise I think he's mostly interesting for the crossover with Kev and the Tranch.
He was also apparently never on Twitter/tumblr, which means I've only got a few years of bsky to use (which are mostly full of aforementioned commieposting). And while he's not the opsec genius he thinks he is, he's at least smart enough to not post his troon name or dead name online and I've not been able to find a birthdate either. If people are interested in a deeper dive (and/or have more information; more powerful autists than I might remember a hotel stay / partner of Shiteater's from 7 years ago...), then let me know, but otherwise I think he's mostly interesting for the crossover with Kev and the Tranch.
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So where is the evidence or indication for the sex role play with a minor?
I am not surprised about Penny consent accidenting this guy.
Penny has always struck me as quite rapy.
With Jen and Kevin lurking around he sort of reminds me of a soft skinny fat rangy version of Mohawk from Mad Max 2 the Road warrior.
Kevin and Jen are like aging and hideously mutated versions of the Golden Youth.
So now we know the truth.
The tranch were harassing the local innocent farmers while riding Alpacas and menacing them with firearms.
Law enforcement was incapable of stopping the roving Troons in the wake of blm and fears of a screeching blue hair backlash and police defunding.
So the farmers enlisted the help of an ex cop and drifter, whose wife and son were violently trooned out by a dangerous gang of drag queens.
They only knew him as Earl. The Elusive Earl.
Tire overinflation was his calling card.
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That's a Bluesky thing; if I block someone, it blocks their posts for anyone viewing my posts, and (I think) my posts from their timeline. You can see who's been blocked by visiting clearsky.app, and sometimes piece the posts together.
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Here, in the first tweet - he doesn't directly say Kev / Jen / etc. were in the server, but the context of his various tweets (including tweet #2 in the screenshot, where he uses "them" to clearly refer to Kev et al.) / the fact he's posting all of this as part of a catfight with Kevin, implies it (e.g. this one where he, after talking about DMs with Kevin, says "the fun stuff was always in the server though" i.e. the BDSM server).
Insofar as the word of a communist troon on twitter is "evidence", anyways. He's not posted any screenshots + apparently he deleted the BDSM discord (which he mentions Kev etc. being in elsewhere in the post) + he's back too commieposting and seems to have abandoned the Kevin fight, so I don't know we'll be getting anything more concrete than vague allegations. But tbh if I have to pick someone to believe between Kevryn and a random commietroon, I'd probably pick the commietroon
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I would not be surprised one bit if the Trio of Troonery were grooming minors in fetish discords.
It would be completely possible if some kid emerged claiming to have been kidnapped and forcibly given estrogen by the three of them.
However, unfortunately what we have here is some very vague he said-(s)he said.
Kevin is a dumb wannabe slut however. If he has been up to something like this, he will out himself sooner or later.
He has always been questionable when it comes to minors.
Collecting toys, larping as a baby/little whatever he calls it.
Frequently saying that puberty blockers are harmless and even claiming that kids should be basically put onto them until they decide which gender they want.
There is a chance it’s “innocent” but even if it is now, he will get more confidence and more jaded so could easily develop into outright involvement of actual children.
Fifty years ago he would just have been a shabby man in a stained raincoat and a shiny suit, living in a flophouse or with his mum.
He would be a regular at the nearest porn shop and blue cinema and avoided by the local children.
At least he probably would have collected trains or model kits rather than toys.
Thirty years ago, he would have been similar but probably just your average Proto-neckbeard. A Simpsons comic book guy fighting with literal copies of himself on dial up internet. Still avoided by the local children though.
The internet combined with identity politics needs better education and understanding, so it can be handled better by the education system, parents and society at large.
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The blocked post probably just means Kev deleted it after that guy replied in lieu of being able to delete his reply / being too coward to block him and cause drama, or face up to that drama head on.
The hotel visit it very likely a furry convention.
Wether or not this guy is a furry, I reckon troons probably gather at them anyway for sex.
The hotel visit it very likely a furry convention.
Wether or not this guy is a furry, I reckon troons probably gather at them anyway for sex.
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Kevin got exactly what he always wanted – Twitter, only populated entirely with autistic terminally online troons instead of just mostly – and is finding out first hand just what a toxic dumpster fire that actually entails. Love that for him!
Dumpster fire.
Queen of all the drama.
Kevin's alluding to the expression "crabs in a bucket". Supposedly, if you have a bunch of crabs in a bucket and one of them tries to climb its way out, the others will pull it back down – basically, a metaphor for a group of miserable people who would rather sabotage others' success, even to their own community's detriment, than see somebody else better off than them.??
I've heard the metaphor applied to Soviet-era Russia and black Americans, but online trannies might embody it better than any group in human history.
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(apologies for double-posting)
So I figured out who this Trans Commie Scum person is. Actually, I can't take the credit – he's already been doxed in this very thread, by none other than our boy Kevin!
This troon came up in the initial slapfight over this Kairi person that Kevin got involved in earlier in June, featured in the long thread at the bottom of this post by @kazuhiro.
It looks like TCS made some comments critical of Israel, a Bluesky (((fellow white person))) tranny took offense and called him "goyish bitch", and things spiraled from there. Not sure who this Kairi person is or how they got involved, and frankly I can't be arsed to find out. The whole affair seems mostly just like more typical online tranny "discourse" spergery.
BUT, if you can force yourself to slog through it all, you notice cryptic references by both Kevin and TCS to TCS's name being a palindrome.
And then, in a blink-and-you'll-miss-it post by Kevin:
Kevin mentions "a Daily Dot article with [his] face and first name last name that time TeeSpring deleted [his] TERF shirt". That sounds fairly specific. So, a quick Google search for "daily dot trans terf teespring" and oh, what's this?
Why, it's an article from 2018 by none other than fellow tranny lolcow Ana Valens, with TCS' name right in the second paragraph: Elle Clayton.
Now we know why Kev and TCS both referred to the latter's name as a palindrome.
The archive.today version retains TCS' Facebook profile pic from an FB post (presumably now deleted) that the article linked to. It's too small and blurry to make out TCS' face clearly, but the male fivehead and receding hairline still shine through.
The article also helpfully includes a link to Mr. Clayton's Facebook page. It's still active, but fairly boring, tbh.
Turns out "Elle" (government name unknown), who is yet another unskilled, borderline homeless tranny failmale, tried to raise some cash by selling some basic-ass "FUCK TERFS!!1!1" t-shirt designs on Teespring. Unfortunately for him, Teespring, in an uncharacteristically based move for an online retailer in 2018, ended up banhammering his designs, apparently for including the word "TERF".
The story seems to have briefly been a cause célèbre at the time among extremely online trannies, who called for a boycott of Teespring for their transphobia. Given that Teespring is still in business today, albeit having apparently rebranded to simply "Spring", this seems to have gone as well as the tranny boycott of Hogwarts Legacy.
The Daily Dot article includes multiple tweets in solidarity from Twitter trannies, including one by KevKev himself:
Clayton also got featured on an episode of the "Gaytheist Podcast", an LGBTQLOLWTF+++-themed podcast that appears to be defunct.
The Wayback Machine still retains a copy of the podcast. I didn't bother listening, but I'll include it here for posterity's sake. (Interview with TCS starts at 2:38 )
The blog post for the episode includes TCS' now-deleted Twitter account:
It also includes links to other sites where the shirts can still be purchased. Here are some examples – they're fairly pedestrian, really.
So, there you have it. To be honest, "Elle" isn't much of a lolcow – just another typical communist Twitter tranny. Nonetheless, I feel our boy Kevin should be declared an Honorary Kiwi and Based Tranny for the day for handing us the keys to tracking down the identity of TCS, deranged commie and antisemitic enemy of Israel.
I will also say that this one post by TCS completely redeemed him in my eyes.
[Edited to add Gaytheist Podcast episode with TCS interview]
So I figured out who this Trans Commie Scum person is. Actually, I can't take the credit – he's already been doxed in this very thread, by none other than our boy Kevin!
This troon came up in the initial slapfight over this Kairi person that Kevin got involved in earlier in June, featured in the long thread at the bottom of this post by @kazuhiro.
It looks like TCS made some comments critical of Israel, a Bluesky (((fellow white person))) tranny took offense and called him "goyish bitch", and things spiraled from there. Not sure who this Kairi person is or how they got involved, and frankly I can't be arsed to find out. The whole affair seems mostly just like more typical online tranny "discourse" spergery.
BUT, if you can force yourself to slog through it all, you notice cryptic references by both Kevin and TCS to TCS's name being a palindrome.
And then, in a blink-and-you'll-miss-it post by Kevin:
Kevin mentions "a Daily Dot article with [his] face and first name last name that time TeeSpring deleted [his] TERF shirt". That sounds fairly specific. So, a quick Google search for "daily dot trans terf teespring" and oh, what's this?
Why, it's an article from 2018 by none other than fellow tranny lolcow Ana Valens, with TCS' name right in the second paragraph: Elle Clayton.
Transgender designer says she was banned by Teespring for anti-transphobic designs
The custom apparel site called her work ‘hate speech.’
Photo of Ana Valens Ana Valens IRL
Posted on Jun 6, 2018
Updated on May 21, 2021, 2:08 pm CDT
Pride Month is here, and Teespring has a lot of explaining to do to its transgender customers. A transgender designer on the custom apparel site claims her designs were removed for an anti-transphobic sentiment, which Teespring appears to have called “hate speech.”
Elle Clayton, a transgender woman who sells products on Teespring, put together a design that reads “FUCK TERFS” and began selling it on the site through shirts, tank tops, stickers, and tote bags. “TERF” (Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist) references transphobic feminists who reject transgender women and try to discredit their gender, remove them from feminist spaces, and sexually harass them both publicly and privately.
On Tuesday, Clayton posted a screengrab of an email from Teespring on Facebook, in which the Teespring team said her designs were removed for violating “our acceptable use policy with the wording ‘TERFS.’” In particular, Teespring argued the use of “TERFS” “violates our Hate Speech section of our acceptable use policy” and that the design “will not be put back up,” the screengrab from Clayton shows.
“You have got to be kidding me,” Clayton wrote in her Facebook post. “Teespring is aligning itself with TERFs. Only TERFs think ‘TERF’ is a slur or hate speech.”
In an interview with the Daily Dot, Clayton explained that life has “been pretty rough” since she first started transitioning, and that she chose Teespring as an avenue for her designs to “make things a little easier while also giving folks a great message to take to Pride.” But Clayton didn’t expect Teespring to get in the way of her work.
“My campaign was up for about a day, if I recall correctly. I sold about five items and made $30ish,” Clayton told the Daily Dot. “A friend of mine shared it and a TERF page on Facebook picked it up.”
Clayton said the TERF Facebook page “organized to report all of my Teespring campaigns” or designs. Teespring initially claimed that Clayton was “using third-party content,” she told the Daily Dot, so she changed the design to read “TERFS ARE TRASH.” But Clayton said the TERFs reporting her designs “succeed in getting every one of my campaigns terminated” and led to her being “locked out” of her Teespring account.
Clayton suspects Teespring initially didn’t realize what was going on and took down her campaigns without realizing what TERFs represent. But now, she argues the company is doubling-down and hoping the controversy will simply disappear.
“Either way, they had to have learned something about TERFs throughout all of this, and whatever they’ve learned has convinced them to side with TERFs over trans women,” Clayton told the Daily Dot. “At this point, it’s clear that they just want it to go away, and have no interest in listening to us whatsoever.”
Here's the original design. Another one that said "TERFs are trash" was also removed. The context is, a broke trans girl tried to make a bit of stamp money, but transphobes decided we can't have that.#BoycottTeespring pic.twitter.com/U4htrWc4Mm
— Hailey Heartless (@SadistHailey)
June 6, 2018
Clayton’s post quickly went viral as transgender women and their allies alike pointed out that Teespring’s policy is dangerous. The word “TERF” is a critical, yet accurate, term used to describe exclusionary feminism, but many TERFs argue that the word itself is a “slur” in an attempt to discredit transgender women who criticize their transphobic beliefs. So by saying that “TERF” constitutes hate speech, many feel Teespring is aligning with those transphobic beliefs.
Twitter users are particularly upset over Teespring’s pro-LGBTQ posts on Facebook and Twitter, while the controversy continues. For many, it’s a sign that Teespring is looking to profit off the LGBTQ community while throwing transgender women under the bus.
The Daily Dot reached out to Teespring regarding its policy and awaits a response.
We are looking for LGBTQ+ designs to feature across our social media channels for #PrideMonth this #June!
Hashtag your designs and selfies with #TeespringPride for a chance to be featured!
— Spring (@spring4creators)
May 29, 2018
Hey, @teespring? If you're going to peddle this horseshit, stop trying to bank off of pride, which you're currently doing. No more hiding? Your empowering of TERFs who wish us expelled from society and demonized to the highest degree says the complete opposite. #teespringpride pic.twitter.com/WLHx5LwKs1
— Astrid Johnson
(@fxggxtash)
June 5, 2018
The only reason you'd think the word TERF is hate speech is if you're either run by transphobes, or you got your info on the word from transphobes.
Welcome to #PrideMonth, Teespring. Looks like we have a new cause to rally around: Namely making sure no one buys from you again. https://t.co/hum5NKubeq
— Kathryn Gibes
@transsalamander.bsky.social (@TransSalamander)
June 5, 2018
TERF cannot be a slur, because it doesn't refer to a group based on gender, race, orientation, etc. TERF refers to an *ideology* – it stands for "trans exclusionary radical feminism"
— Kelly (@justkelly_ok)
June 5, 2018
As Clayton posited, even if Teespring was possibly confused to TERF’s meaning and the politics surrounding the word if and when it was flagged, the company has since reiterated on its policy on “TERF.” Teespring argued in a series of tweets on Tuesday that the company is “not in a position to debate our policies or discuss this issue further” and that “designs that promote or glorify hatred towards people based upon age, race, gender/gender identity, and sexual orientation are prohibited.” That claim is particularly ironic, given Teespring’s lengthy white supremacist, transphobic, homophobic, and racist designs available for sale.
We apologize if you disagree with our decision and for any inconvenience this matter has caused. Please understand that we are not in a position to debate our policies or discuss this issue further. Your feedback has been noted and will remain under consideration.
— Spring (@spring4creators)
June 5, 2018
To maintain a safe & respectful platform, designs that promote or glorify hatred towards people based upon age, race, gender/gender identity & sexual orientation are prohibited. This includes individuals, organizations, or symbols dedicated to hatred against these groups.
— Spring (@spring4creators)
June 5, 2018
Thought I’d just point out that the policy you cited doesn’t actually protect TERFs at all: it’s not an “age, race, gender/gender identity”, nor a “sexual orientation”. Trans people, however, ARE protected under “gender identity” pic.twitter.com/RrRROvkAYh
— Praxis Makes Perfect (@AlexPleskach1)
June 6, 2018
@teespring I'd like to understand how you came to believe that TERF is a slur while still allowing gross antisemitism in your store. pic.twitter.com/XhfrfUjLNI
— Elizabeth (@VultureChow)
June 6, 2018
A little education for @teespring 1488 is a nazi slogan. It refers to the "14 words" and 88 = HH or "heil hitler"
TERF on the other hand means Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist. pic.twitter.com/pa2emLYU24
— Elizabeth (@VultureChow)
June 6, 2018
READ MORE
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The dirty, complex, empowering history of the word ‘queer’
Teespring’s controversy comes just weeks after a queer Latinx artist claimed that Target stole his painting and culturally appropriated its message for an LGBTQ-themed T-shirt. Teespring is just the latest example of a much larger problem the queer community continues to grapple with in 2018: Companies that appear pro-LGBTQ but actually have sinister intentions that leave queer shoppers feeling unwelcome.
“This whole thing has just inspired me to get louder,” Clayton told the Daily Dot. “We need to talk about corporate Pride (and cops at Pride), and at the very least we need to make it clear to companies that want to participate that they need to do a lot better.”
Update 6:11pm CT, June 6: This article has been updated to include comments from Elle Clayton.
The custom apparel site called her work ‘hate speech.’
Photo of Ana Valens Ana Valens IRL
Posted on Jun 6, 2018
Updated on May 21, 2021, 2:08 pm CDT
Pride Month is here, and Teespring has a lot of explaining to do to its transgender customers. A transgender designer on the custom apparel site claims her designs were removed for an anti-transphobic sentiment, which Teespring appears to have called “hate speech.”
Elle Clayton, a transgender woman who sells products on Teespring, put together a design that reads “FUCK TERFS” and began selling it on the site through shirts, tank tops, stickers, and tote bags. “TERF” (Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist) references transphobic feminists who reject transgender women and try to discredit their gender, remove them from feminist spaces, and sexually harass them both publicly and privately.
On Tuesday, Clayton posted a screengrab of an email from Teespring on Facebook, in which the Teespring team said her designs were removed for violating “our acceptable use policy with the wording ‘TERFS.’” In particular, Teespring argued the use of “TERFS” “violates our Hate Speech section of our acceptable use policy” and that the design “will not be put back up,” the screengrab from Clayton shows.
“You have got to be kidding me,” Clayton wrote in her Facebook post. “Teespring is aligning itself with TERFs. Only TERFs think ‘TERF’ is a slur or hate speech.”
In an interview with the Daily Dot, Clayton explained that life has “been pretty rough” since she first started transitioning, and that she chose Teespring as an avenue for her designs to “make things a little easier while also giving folks a great message to take to Pride.” But Clayton didn’t expect Teespring to get in the way of her work.
“My campaign was up for about a day, if I recall correctly. I sold about five items and made $30ish,” Clayton told the Daily Dot. “A friend of mine shared it and a TERF page on Facebook picked it up.”
Clayton said the TERF Facebook page “organized to report all of my Teespring campaigns” or designs. Teespring initially claimed that Clayton was “using third-party content,” she told the Daily Dot, so she changed the design to read “TERFS ARE TRASH.” But Clayton said the TERFs reporting her designs “succeed in getting every one of my campaigns terminated” and led to her being “locked out” of her Teespring account.
Clayton suspects Teespring initially didn’t realize what was going on and took down her campaigns without realizing what TERFs represent. But now, she argues the company is doubling-down and hoping the controversy will simply disappear.
“Either way, they had to have learned something about TERFs throughout all of this, and whatever they’ve learned has convinced them to side with TERFs over trans women,” Clayton told the Daily Dot. “At this point, it’s clear that they just want it to go away, and have no interest in listening to us whatsoever.”
Here's the original design. Another one that said "TERFs are trash" was also removed. The context is, a broke trans girl tried to make a bit of stamp money, but transphobes decided we can't have that.#BoycottTeespring pic.twitter.com/U4htrWc4Mm
— Hailey Heartless (@SadistHailey)
June 6, 2018
Clayton’s post quickly went viral as transgender women and their allies alike pointed out that Teespring’s policy is dangerous. The word “TERF” is a critical, yet accurate, term used to describe exclusionary feminism, but many TERFs argue that the word itself is a “slur” in an attempt to discredit transgender women who criticize their transphobic beliefs. So by saying that “TERF” constitutes hate speech, many feel Teespring is aligning with those transphobic beliefs.
Twitter users are particularly upset over Teespring’s pro-LGBTQ posts on Facebook and Twitter, while the controversy continues. For many, it’s a sign that Teespring is looking to profit off the LGBTQ community while throwing transgender women under the bus.
The Daily Dot reached out to Teespring regarding its policy and awaits a response.
We are looking for LGBTQ+ designs to feature across our social media channels for #PrideMonth this #June!
Hashtag your designs and selfies with #TeespringPride for a chance to be featured!
— Spring (@spring4creators)
May 29, 2018
Hey, @teespring? If you're going to peddle this horseshit, stop trying to bank off of pride, which you're currently doing. No more hiding? Your empowering of TERFs who wish us expelled from society and demonized to the highest degree says the complete opposite. #teespringpride pic.twitter.com/WLHx5LwKs1
— Astrid Johnson
(@fxggxtash)June 5, 2018
The only reason you'd think the word TERF is hate speech is if you're either run by transphobes, or you got your info on the word from transphobes.
Welcome to #PrideMonth, Teespring. Looks like we have a new cause to rally around: Namely making sure no one buys from you again. https://t.co/hum5NKubeq
— Kathryn Gibes
@transsalamander.bsky.social (@TransSalamander)June 5, 2018
TERF cannot be a slur, because it doesn't refer to a group based on gender, race, orientation, etc. TERF refers to an *ideology* – it stands for "trans exclusionary radical feminism"
— Kelly (@justkelly_ok)
June 5, 2018
As Clayton posited, even if Teespring was possibly confused to TERF’s meaning and the politics surrounding the word if and when it was flagged, the company has since reiterated on its policy on “TERF.” Teespring argued in a series of tweets on Tuesday that the company is “not in a position to debate our policies or discuss this issue further” and that “designs that promote or glorify hatred towards people based upon age, race, gender/gender identity, and sexual orientation are prohibited.” That claim is particularly ironic, given Teespring’s lengthy white supremacist, transphobic, homophobic, and racist designs available for sale.
We apologize if you disagree with our decision and for any inconvenience this matter has caused. Please understand that we are not in a position to debate our policies or discuss this issue further. Your feedback has been noted and will remain under consideration.
— Spring (@spring4creators)
June 5, 2018
To maintain a safe & respectful platform, designs that promote or glorify hatred towards people based upon age, race, gender/gender identity & sexual orientation are prohibited. This includes individuals, organizations, or symbols dedicated to hatred against these groups.
— Spring (@spring4creators)
June 5, 2018
Thought I’d just point out that the policy you cited doesn’t actually protect TERFs at all: it’s not an “age, race, gender/gender identity”, nor a “sexual orientation”. Trans people, however, ARE protected under “gender identity” pic.twitter.com/RrRROvkAYh
— Praxis Makes Perfect (@AlexPleskach1)
June 6, 2018
@teespring I'd like to understand how you came to believe that TERF is a slur while still allowing gross antisemitism in your store. pic.twitter.com/XhfrfUjLNI
— Elizabeth (@VultureChow)
June 6, 2018
A little education for @teespring 1488 is a nazi slogan. It refers to the "14 words" and 88 = HH or "heil hitler"
TERF on the other hand means Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist. pic.twitter.com/pa2emLYU24
— Elizabeth (@VultureChow)
June 6, 2018
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Teespring’s controversy comes just weeks after a queer Latinx artist claimed that Target stole his painting and culturally appropriated its message for an LGBTQ-themed T-shirt. Teespring is just the latest example of a much larger problem the queer community continues to grapple with in 2018: Companies that appear pro-LGBTQ but actually have sinister intentions that leave queer shoppers feeling unwelcome.
“This whole thing has just inspired me to get louder,” Clayton told the Daily Dot. “We need to talk about corporate Pride (and cops at Pride), and at the very least we need to make it clear to companies that want to participate that they need to do a lot better.”
Update 6:11pm CT, June 6: This article has been updated to include comments from Elle Clayton.
Now we know why Kev and TCS both referred to the latter's name as a palindrome.
The archive.today version retains TCS' Facebook profile pic from an FB post (presumably now deleted) that the article linked to. It's too small and blurry to make out TCS' face clearly, but the male fivehead and receding hairline still shine through.
The article also helpfully includes a link to Mr. Clayton's Facebook page. It's still active, but fairly boring, tbh.
Turns out "Elle" (government name unknown), who is yet another unskilled, borderline homeless tranny failmale, tried to raise some cash by selling some basic-ass "FUCK TERFS!!1!1" t-shirt designs on Teespring. Unfortunately for him, Teespring, in an uncharacteristically based move for an online retailer in 2018, ended up banhammering his designs, apparently for including the word "TERF".
The story seems to have briefly been a cause célèbre at the time among extremely online trannies, who called for a boycott of Teespring for their transphobia. Given that Teespring is still in business today, albeit having apparently rebranded to simply "Spring", this seems to have gone as well as the tranny boycott of Hogwarts Legacy.
The Daily Dot article includes multiple tweets in solidarity from Twitter trannies, including one by KevKev himself:
Clayton also got featured on an episode of the "Gaytheist Podcast", an LGBTQLOLWTF+++-themed podcast that appears to be defunct.
The Wayback Machine still retains a copy of the podcast. I didn't bother listening, but I'll include it here for posterity's sake. (Interview with TCS starts at 2:38 )
The blog post for the episode includes TCS' now-deleted Twitter account:
It also includes links to other sites where the shirts can still be purchased. Here are some examples – they're fairly pedestrian, really.
So, there you have it. To be honest, "Elle" isn't much of a lolcow – just another typical communist Twitter tranny. Nonetheless, I feel our boy Kevin should be declared an Honorary Kiwi and Based Tranny for the day for handing us the keys to tracking down the identity of TCS, deranged commie and antisemitic enemy of Israel.
I will also say that this one post by TCS completely redeemed him in my eyes.
[Edited to add Gaytheist Podcast episode with TCS interview]
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I don't think Kevin's a true and honest pedo; I think they'd groom the ghost of Dwight David Eisenhower in their Discord server and somehow someone underage wandered in.
There are a lot of pedo cows and you can see it creep in around the edges. The conversation always wanders back to "What if I was on a ferry and there was a 12-year-old girl there who was having her first period and...." or "This one time when I was 13 I was minding my own business and suddenly I was fucking an older dude and it was great and anyways here's a picture of a sexy toddler."
Kevin's got a lot of childlike interests but his ideal self is an adult grown woman with big milkers. Possibly made of metal and possibly blue and inflatable. At the same time, if possible.
Kevin is a very odd man.
There are a lot of pedo cows and you can see it creep in around the edges. The conversation always wanders back to "What if I was on a ferry and there was a 12-year-old girl there who was having her first period and...." or "This one time when I was 13 I was minding my own business and suddenly I was fucking an older dude and it was great and anyways here's a picture of a sexy toddler."
Kevin's got a lot of childlike interests but his ideal self is an adult grown woman with big milkers. Possibly made of metal and possibly blue and inflatable. At the same time, if possible.
Kevin is a very odd man.
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In this thread it's been mentioned that Kevin denounces lolicon because it can be used to be groom children, but he doesn't mind adults watching it because he sees it as a "kink" he's not into. I would question, however, if he's into "barely legal", "college", and "teen" fetishes.
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I don't see that as being a chomo. I don't see that as being a fetish, even.
Slutty Cheerleader Sucks Dick For Grades is like Pron 101. Right in there with the Sorority Pizza Delivery and Busty Teacher Needs You To Help After Class. If you like watching chicks lez out, Slumber Party is right in there.
For gay pron, it's the Locker Room Special and Orgy In The Frat.
High school and college are horny ages where you're surrounded by good-looking people. Makes sense that erotic targets would develop then. If some 60-year-old dude wants to crank it to legal cheerleader pron, I don't see the crime.
Orgy At Pioneer Towers is a niche thing for a reason.
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Let's remember that this is what his POV would've been:
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