Kirby Thread - https://youtube.com/watch?v=Cc3PAAije0Y

[Anonitolia]

I guess nobody cares about Kirby Air Riders because Nintendo fumbled so damn hard with the Switch 2.

First of all, how dare you.

Second, what can you really say? It got a tiny teaser with the most generic logo ever, a pretty generic title, a small clip of pre-rendered cinematics and an announcement that Sakurai is finally reuniting with his long-lost son. Discussion will pick up when the first trailer drops and there's an actual game to talk about.

 

[Another Random]

Speaking of Sakurai... in general, what do people think of the games taken as groups? Namely:

• Sakurai games [Dream Land, Adventure, Super Star]
• Shimomura games [Dream Land 2, Dream Land 3, 64]
• Handheld games [Nightmare in Dream Land, Amazing Mirror, Canvas Curse, Squeak Squad, Super Star Ultra, Mass Attack]
• Kumazaki games [Return to Dream Land, Triple Deluxe, Planet Robobot, Star Allies, Forgotten Land]

[I don't particularly want to include Epic Yarn as an option but people can give their option too, it just didn't fit any of these...]

 

[winterfag]

Speaking of Sakurai... in general, what do people think of the games taken as groups? Namely:

• Sakurai games [Dream Land, Adventure, Super Star]
• Shimomura games [Dream Land 2, Dream Land 3, 64]
• Handheld games [Nightmare in Dream Land, Amazing Mirror, Canvas Curse, Squeak Squad, Super Star Ultra, Mass Attack]
• Kumazaki games [Return to Dream Land, Triple Deluxe, Planet Robobot, Star Allies, Forgotten Land]

[I don't particularly want to include Epic Yarn as an option but people can give their option too, it just didn't fit any of these...]

Never paid attention to who directed what outside of Sakurai, but now I see how good of a track record Kumazaki has (outside of Star Allies, but apparently it got better with updates that dropped way after the fact)

Was surprised by how much I wound up loving Return to Dreamland, enough to 100% it. Getting the collectables and doing the copy ability challenge levels was a lot of fun

 

[Anonitolia]

Speaking of Sakurai... in general, what do people think of the games taken as groups? Namely:

• Sakurai games [Dream Land, Adventure, Super Star]
• Shimomura games [Dream Land 2, Dream Land 3, 64]
• Handheld games [Nightmare in Dream Land, Amazing Mirror, Canvas Curse, Squeak Squad, Super Star Ultra, Mass Attack]
• Kumazaki games [Return to Dream Land, Triple Deluxe, Planet Robobot, Star Allies, Forgotten Land]

[I don't particularly want to include Epic Yarn as an option but people can give their option too, it just didn't fit any of these...]

Sakurai and a lot of the handheld games are great (worth noting that Nightmare in Dreamland was also one of Sakurai’s)

Don’t particularly like any of Shimomura but I like the diversity in their visual styles

Kumazaki is a mixed bag, I like a decent amount of his stuff but don’t like his overreliance on fan service. Star Allies and Robobot were really bad about this, with Star Allies especially bordering on circlejerk levels of sacrificing original content for the sake of ‘memberberries, but I can’t deny his talent as a director and the only thing he’s made that I’m not especially fond of (Star Allies) is on the same system as Forgotten Land, so if I want “Kirby on the Switch” I’m thankfully not stuck with it. Main complaint is in the visual department, all of his shit looks identical and it’s a pretty sanitized and bland style. Triple Deluxe is the sole exception due to its heavy emphasis on beauty and ornate theming, I really wish later games took more inspiration from it

for reference, Super Star Ultra is easily my favorite game and I’m a heretic who prefers Triple Deluxe to Robobot and I mostly played the handheld stuff so frankly my opinions might just come from nostalgia more than proper experience lol. I’m a pretty casual fan so I can’t remember the last time I replayed most of the handheld stuff. I know Canvas Curse always sucked, I 100%’d Squeak Squad in like 5 hours, and Mass Attack threw in a lot of annoying bullshit at the end that turned me off but only from the main game, not those SUPERB minigames, but Amazing Mirror was really cool (hope it gets a sequel/remake soon) and Super Star Ultra has stolen hundreds of hours of my life so they easily make up for it

 

[scathefire]

Speaking of Sakurai... in general, what do people think of the games taken as groups? Namely:

• Sakurai games [Dream Land, Adventure, Super Star]
• Shimomura games [Dream Land 2, Dream Land 3, 64]
• Handheld games [Nightmare in Dream Land, Amazing Mirror, Canvas Curse, Squeak Squad, Super Star Ultra, Mass Attack]
• Kumazaki games [Return to Dream Land, Triple Deluxe, Planet Robobot, Star Allies, Forgotten Land]

[I don't particularly want to include Epic Yarn as an option but people can give their option too, it just didn't fit any of these...]

I personally call Amazing Mirror and Squeak Squad “the Flagship duology” even though no one else seems to do that. The two games that Flagship made share some things, and I think many of the enemies in them don’t appear in any other Kirby game.

Kumazaki is a mixed bag, I like a decent amount of his stuff but don’t like his overreliance on fan service. Star Allies and Robobot were really bad about this, with Star Allies especially bordering on circlejerk levels of sacrificing original content for the sake of ‘memberberries, but I can’t deny his talent as a director and the only thing he’s made that I’m not especially fond of (Star Allies) is on the same system as Forgotten Land, so if I want “Kirby on the Switch” I’m thankfully not stuck with it. Main complaint is in the visual department, all of his shit looks identical and it’s a pretty sanitized and bland style. Triple Deluxe is the sole exception due to its heavy emphasis on beauty and ornate theming, I really wish later games took more inspiration from it

I give Robobot a pass on the excessive fanservice because it’s undoubtably one of the best Kirby games ever made. Also because some of the fanservice I liked tbh

for reference, Super Star Ultra is easily my favorite game and I’m a heretic who prefers Triple Deluxe to Robobot and I mostly played the handheld stuff so frankly my opinions might just come from nostalgia more than proper experience lol. I’m a pretty casual fan so I can’t remember the last time I replayed most of the handheld stuff. I know Canvas Curse always sucked, I 100%’d Squeak Squad in like 5 hours, and Mass Attack threw in a lot of annoying bullshit at the end that turned me off but only from the main game, not those SUPERB minigames, but Amazing Mirror was really cool (hope it gets a sequel/remake soon) and Super Star Ultra has stolen hundreds of hours of my life so they easily make up for it

I played KSSU relentlessly as a kid, I vividly remember how awesome it felt to beat The True Arena for the first time. One of the best feelings ever.

 

[Two Dollars]

Speaking of Sakurai... in general, what do people think of the games taken as groups? Namely:

• Sakurai games [Dream Land, Adventure, Super Star]
• Shimomura games [Dream Land 2, Dream Land 3, 64]
• Handheld games [Nightmare in Dream Land, Amazing Mirror, Canvas Curse, Squeak Squad, Super Star Ultra, Mass Attack]
• Kumazaki games [Return to Dream Land, Triple Deluxe, Planet Robobot, Star Allies, Forgotten Land]

Kumazaki > Sakurai > Shimomura > Handheld
… but they’re all good.

Never paid attention to who directed what outside of Sakurai, but now I see how good of a track record Kumazaki has (outside of Star Allies, but apparently it got better with updates that dropped way after the fact)

Star Allies did get better with updates. Its biggest sins are that it’s way too easy, the music isn’t quite up to snuff (but there are still great songs), the low framerate, and it started Nintendo’s “finish it later” approach of launching incomplete games.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Christ-pilled Kirbo is back!