LGB drop the TQ - Move this thread if it's in the wrong place :o

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Don't gays and lesbians largely hate eachother? At least half of all gays hate women and a similar proportion of lesbians hate all men. The only thing those groups have in common is domestic violence, drug abuse and disappointing their parents.
 
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A Real Munson said:
Don't gays and lesbians largely hate eachother? At least half of all gays hate women and a similar proportion of lesbians hate all men. The only thing those groups have in common is domestic violence, drug abuse and disappointing their parents.
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If you took the average gay man and put him in the same bed as the average lesbian woman and told them no one was watching, they would have no qualms about performing intercourse on each other. That's how fluid their "sexual orientation" really is. It's all performative and self-deluded.
 
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The virtue signaling that faggots and lesbians do to try to pretend they are different is cringe.

Most trannies today would have been faggots back in the day. The L and G are also degenerate weirdos no amount of yapping can change that.
 
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Toji Suzuhara said:
All alphabet people are weird people. It wasn't Ts and Qs the ones who did fetish parades in front of children in SF, for example, it was gay men. And knowing that them and NAMBLA have always been connected, it's far too late for them to try and pass this whole thing as "normal".
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The gay community claims it's "spicy straights" who are pushing the trans and fetish bullshit or who are dressing up in fetish gear in front of kids, but look up Pride marches from the 70s and 80s on YouTube and you'll soon see that it's overtly homosexual males.

I don't have an issue with the LGB having their own spaces, bars, theatres and communities, etc. In fact, when gays and straights were segregated things were better. Drag should have remained in gay clubs. It should have never gone mainstream. Drag has played a monumental role in normalising males being called "women" or "girls" simply for wearing makeup and costumes.
 
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Wuornos said:
The gay community claims it's "spicy straights" who are pushing the trans and fetish bullshit or who are dressing up in fetish gear in front of kids, but look up Pride marches from the 70s and 80s on YouTube and you'll soon see that it's overtly homosexual males.
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I'm beginning to think that lesbian/gay/bi are just meaningless labels for these kinds of discussions at this point, degenerates don't care about gender, they only care about their fetish - and there's absolutely vile ones out there and, well, guys who fly to thailand will dis-proportionally call themselves straight and "gays" will say they wont touch a tranny.
Wuornos said:
I don't have an issue with the LGB having their own spaces, bars, theatres and communities, etc. In fact, when gays and straights were segregated things were better. Drag should have remained in gay clubs. It should have never gone mainstream.
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"Drag", as in dressing as a woman or the reverse ("Hosenrollen") has been a staple of the arts since the dawn of time. The problem is where does that which you identify as degenerate "Drag" start and where does it end? I'm not being obtuse, I'm trying to invite a discussion about what exactly pings us as "that" degen shit which is ought to be banned from the public eye.
 
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Space Police said:
true bisexuality is exceedingly rare, and most self-identified "bisexuals" are just degenerate straight people who've consoomed so much porn that their sexuality has been warped, so keeping bisexuals around just opens the door for degenerate straight people and straggots who want to belong in a marginalized group.
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Not against your takes most of the time but that one earned a dumb from me because I'm tired of that take. What does sexuality "warped" by pornography even mean? Are they fucking guys and girls? Then they're bi-sexual. Easy. They're in. They might be porn addicted assholes, they may fuck minors, or have weird fetishes, things on the basis of which we may want to remove them but that's also true for strictly gay barely legal twink enjoyers and piss and shit mongloids. This "porn made them pseudo gay" is the kind of psychobabble spergery which appended the T in the first place. LGB was about the phenomenological sexual behavior relative to the observable SEX of the persons involved. And I want THAT back. Just say drop the B, then. If anything, I think all humans are default bi, they just have preference in how their partners look and act relative to themselves, some guys are really verse, others go for smol cute partners and smol cute people go for the same as them or big and burly ones. Some (read: most) people decide on genitals on top of that and then there's the "little" reality of things that most women just happen to be on the smol and cute side while most men are on the big and burly side. I am really, really tired of all sides over-complicating this shit.
 
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popsoda said:
The Lesbian, Gay and Bi community should abandon the Trans/Queer tail.

Being lesbian or gay is not at all the same thing as being trans or whatever.

Being homosexual or bisexual is a very well established and well understood phenomenon.
Being trans or queer is quite novel and so open to interpretation that basically anyone can fall into this term.

I'm for homosexual rights and I guess bisexuals falls in that umbrella.
But trans and queer distorts that concept.
It's not the same thing.
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Your fundamental mistake here is thinking that dudes who march around in leather dog masks and have piss orgies and rape 15-year-old boys don't have anything in common with dudes who march around in women's clothes and have piss orgies and rape 15-year-old boys.

On a more serious note, what the rainbow movement is fundamentally about is giving paraphilias legal and social status that puts them on the same level as being normal. It doesn't matter whether your paraphilia is letting other men shit on you or prancing around in thigh-highs, pretending to be a girl. They keep adding more and more letters to LGBT precisely because there are so many unique paraphilias and will never be enough labels to cover all of them, nor is there any real reason to exclude any of them. Even in the T, HSTS and AGP aren't really the "same."

The answer isn't to try to trim down the list of legally privileged, socially protected paraphilias to dudes who like fucking each other in the butthole and women who like licking each others' snatches. It's to return to making it socially unacceptable to let your "freak flag" fly in public. Shove them all back in the closet, and strip them all of legal privileges.
 
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