Plagued Lolicon/Shotacon Defense Force - The people who jerk off to cartoon children and won't ever shut up about it

[FuluFuckwit]

They need to get a better argument. Nobody justifies rape by saying they rape people to cope with being raped themselves.

The best cope to being raped would be to become a serial killer to rapists.
Likewise, the best cope to being molested would be to become a serial killer to chomos.
Unfortunately, the feds hate fun, so such activities would get you put into the slammer.....probably for longer than the person that raped/molested you.

 

[Diggus Bickus]

They need to get a better argument. Nobody justifies rape by saying they rape people to cope with being raped themselves.

The best cope to being raped would be to become a serial killer to rapists.
Likewise, the best cope to being molested would be to become a serial killer to chomos.
Unfortunately, the feds hate fun, so such activities would get you put into the slammer.....probably for longer than the person that raped/molested you.

The better argument would be "Oh god, I am fucked up and in a lot of trauma, let me go seek psychiatric help" which believe it or not, for victims of these things it's not as easy, especially if this shit happens with family members or some shit. I'm not saying either of you are inherently wrong, but what I am saying is that it's a bit tone deaf to just go "lmao just wire your brain better faggot haha just turn off the screen and kill your rapist haha" or some shit. It's not like they chose for Uncle Steve to touch their privates when they were five and then see it as normal.

True, they do choose to keep seeing it as normal since at some point it does become their decision once they're old enough to realize, but if there's any better argument it's making the first step to help, and it's something they should get support on.

It just reminds me of that two sided comic where one guy is crying about having bad thoughts of kids and a woman supports him to get psychiatric help. Then a member of NAMBLA defends pedos and she seemingly is gonna do the same but then takes him to jail.

With that being said, I think what is noteworthy is while I don't believe that everyone who has ever consumed lolicon (or closest equivalent) is by nature is a pedophile, I think everyone who defends it is.

I've genuinely don't believe, in my own opinion, there's a person who exists on this earth who defends lolicon so hard, that genuinely doesn't have an interest in real kids.

I don't disagree with most of what you've said, but I've met at least some people who have defended it at first but then later have realized "Oh god why am I into this, why am I doing this" kinda shit and that's exactly the kind of experience that made me think that porn addiction is a HUGE factor for many of the loli consumers. That's kinda why I spoke with those people again, but I might be somewhat forgiving at that rate.

 

[Kiwisee]

don't disagree with most of what you've said, but I've met at least some people who have defended it at first but then later have realized "Oh god why am I into this, why am I doing this" kinda shit and that's exactly the kind of experience that made me think that porn addiction is a HUGE factor for many of the loli consumers. That's kinda why I spoke with those people again, but I might be somewhat forgiving at that rate.

You reminded me of a girl I went to high school with that was super into Lolicon, to the point where she’d unashamedly ship adult characters with elementary school kids (most notable, that one controversial ship from Inuwasher).

She was from the rez, being molested by her brothers (she told me right before asking me to help her file a police report).

I spoke to her just a couple months ago, and she told me she has pretty much discarded Lolicon in favor of therapy for her issues. To make a long story short, she described it as a maladaptive coping mechanism because all it did was re-traumatize her. She also doesn’t watch anime anymore, because she doesn’t want to potentially re-ignite her old porn addiction.

She is the reason why I don’t buy “consuming Lolicon helps me cope”, because it’s more maladaptive than anything.

 

[Diggus Bickus]

She is the reason why I don’t buy “consuming Lolicon helps me cope”, because it’s more maladaptive than anything.

Precisely what I'm saying. And if she's proof then there you go. It's why I believe it's a little retarded to just go "haha just close your eyes nigga" given the shit some people go through and how hard it is to get help. But that it's possible, it definitely is.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Vaush never publicly defended lolicon to a degree that the people in this thread do, actually occasionally argued against it in some cases - It's because he recognized it was out of being a porn addicted degenerate - that it was inherently shameful, taboo, gross, etc. The horse cock was unronically easier for him to accept publicly and defend than the lolicon.

She is the reason why I don’t buy “consuming Lolicon helps me cope”, because it’s more maladaptive than anything.

There's also another fallacious argument I've seen, that lolicon helps certain people fulfill their urges. However, I feel that this argument is based on the fallacy that pedophiles are born that way. Or that any abnormal sexual attraction is inborn.

Even though as repeatedly pointed out here and in other threads, there is no evidence that it is inborn, but plenty of evidence that it's the result of heavy porn usage or other trauma. More often than not, one has to be severely addicted to porn in order for them to get to that point.

It's escalation, and escalating further is only going to end in disaster.

Not only that, I refuse, ABSOLUTELY REFUSE, to believe that God would allow anyone to be screwed from birth that way. Afflicted with a horrible mental disorder that overrides your free will and creates a compulsion to do the most unforgivable, most evil acts known to man, afflicted with such a disorder through no fault of your own.

No, it can only happen to people who were already searing their own souls with a hot iron through porn usage and other degeneracy. It's not fucking inborn.

 

[LavenderMenace]

The moment you realise that lolicons are basically redditors, their behaviour starts to make much more sense. Think about it, them being redditors explains:
1. Their smug responses
2. Their retarded arguments
3. Their attempts at moral high groud
And etc.

When I watched Null's video on Incels on Gumroad, it REALLY overlapped alot with people who are into lolicon/shotacon. It's that weird ass obsession of a pure virgin who is beautiful, young, and not "tainted" by other sexual partners. I've browsed waifu boards on reddit and imageboards and they also echo that sentiment of being in love with a cartoon character who isn't a "whore" like real women.

Incel culture has a massive connection to this delusion and obsession with youth and sexual experience. Doesn't help that Japan (as well as the East as a whole) has a enormous obsession with the idea of young children, looking cute like children, and characters that are child like. This obsession of cuteness always gets morphed into something sexual eventually.

I think this really needs more attention because a lot of the issue when it comes to lolicon/shotacon and other degenerate shit for that matter isn't inherently a pedophile problem but more a problem with porn addiction.

What I am saying is that porn addiction usually starts this shit, because eventually the porn they're getting doesn't work anymore, it doesn't really hit them as hard, and they look for more risky, degenerate things to scratch an itch. It starts with shit like futa porn, and then it keeps spiraling down until you reach the most vile shit that people purposefully profit off of in japan.

You're absolutely right. Lolicon/Shotacon is the result of pornography obsessed fucks who wanna keep going down into the degeneracy hole since normal shit doesn't do it for them anymore. They need more extreme taboos to get thrills.

I'm not gonna deny that many of the lolicon/shotacon consumers are pedophiles inherently, lord knows we've seen many such cases? But we've also got pretty sustainable evidence that many of those cases are also a result of a porn addiction instead of someone wanting to fuck a kid IRL (IE; Vaush for example), and I think that shouldn't be overlooked in this thread. The boom of such degenerate porn in more recent years can also be attributed at many kids back in the day having unrestricted access to the internet, thus being exposed to such content while they were young and starting an addiction from there.

It honestly depends on the situation that liking Loli=Wanting to fuck real children. The most common arguement is that lolicons/shotacon likers won't ever touch a real child. Lets say that I trust that person. Doesn't erase the fact that they still get horny over drawings of child characters being erotic. It's being pedo-adjacent. Not a true pedo but it's still pedo behavior that still deserves to be mocked and ridiculed over.

 

[WelperHelper99]

It honestly depends on the situation that liking Loli=Wanting to fuck real children. The most common arguement is that lolicons/shotacon likers won't ever touch a real child. Lets say that I trust that person. Doesn't erase the fact that they still get horny over drawings of child characters being erotic. It's being pedo-adjacent. Not a true pedo but it's still pedo behavior that still deserves to be mocked and ridiculed over

This is a great point. Regardless of the reason of jacking off to drawings of little kids getting fucked, it should be mocked, named, and shamed. It is still disgusting. And deserves bullying. Because without said bullying, the chances of them changing is not only zero but in the negative.

 

[Markass the Worst]

I'm not saying either of you are inherently wrong, but what I am saying is that it's a bit tone deaf to just go "lmao just wire your brain better faggot haha just turn off the screen and kill your rapist haha" or some shit. It's not like they chose for Uncle Steve to touch their privates when they were five and then see it as normal.

Of course, and to be clear I'm not saying they should just "get over it" or anything. What I am saying is that if they've been told in no uncertain terms that lolicon is harmful and to seek help that doesn't involve porn, and they still choose to look at loli? That's bad.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I have also noticed that many self-proclaimed lolicons don't have sisters, or at least no younger sisters. There's a reason it overlaps with the imouto complex because it's an only child "romanticizing" what being an overprotective brother would be like. If they have an older sister, they might've developed a sister complex over her by the time they hit puberty depending on how close in age they are or if they remember taking baths with their older sister and were noticing boobs, and if they don't go the oneechan "ara ara" route, they instead want a little sister who, in their mind, worships the ground they walk on.

It's likely that (in Japan) a lot of this stems from the incestuous trauma a lot of children go through that is just kept quiet because it's a "private family matter".

 

[Ayana Otonashi]

I don't think loli is as bad as CP, but it's still very weird, very questionable and a lot of lolicons are lulzy as is.

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

I don't think loli is as bad as CP, but it's still very weird, very questionable and a lot of lolicons are lulzy as is.

I've always found it interesting that if you venture outside of this place to similar yet different communities, one of the recurring criticisms is "Kiwifarms is full of normalfags who think loli is the same as CP." This is usually lumped in with some criticism of how Null runs the place.

 

[Gravemind]

I've always found it interesting that if you venture outside of this place to similar yet different communities, one of the recurring criticisms is "Kiwifarms is full of normalfags who think loli is the same as CP." This is usually lumped in with some criticism of how Null runs the place.

So those communities are filled with lolicons, right?

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

This is usually lumped in with some criticism of how Null runs the place.

They are just MATI that 8chan failed

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

So those communities are filled with lolicons, right?

Not the ones I'm referencing. The only anecdotal example anyone might recognize is /pol/, who seems to agree loli is for pedos but doesn't want to ban nor equate it to real child abuse.

 

[Gravemind]

Not the ones I'm referencing. The only anecdotal example anyone might recognize is /pol/, who seems to agree loli is for pedos but doesn't want to ban nor equate it to real child abuse.

Weird how there's a lot of /pol/-adjacent people and /pol/-fugees on other parts of the internet that are most definitely lolicons then.

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

Weird how there's a lot of /pol/-adjacent people and /pol/-fugees on other parts of the internet that are most definitely lolicons then.

The world would recoil in horror if they knew how many recognizable internet celebrities were lolicons or (and this is worse) actual CP purchasers. I know at least one who added a friend of mine on Skype ages ago, when she was twelve years-old, and traded her stupid things for pictures and videos. And he was absolutely telling her that his (also internet-popular) friends begged for that same material to pass around.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

I know at least one who added a friend of mine on Skype ages ago, when she was twelve years-old, and traded her stupid things for pictures and videos. And he was absolutely telling her that his (also internet-popular) friends begged for that same material to pass around.

Please tell me that she sued them

 

[Fabio Socialist]

Weird how there's a lot of /pol/-adjacent people and /pol/-fugees on other parts of the internet that are most definitely lolicons then.

Doesn't it warm the cockles of your heart to think of so many polfags and SJW's being unknowingly united in their shared love of loli? It's like that meme of the black girl and the skinhead laughing together, except disgusting and not at all wholesome.

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

Please tell me that she sued them

She doesn't want to become the focal point of something so embarrassing. For the same reasons I'm being vague. I'll say he was in the Normal Boots circle (no, it's not Jontron.)

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I'll say he was in the Normal Boots circle (no, it's not Jontron.)

There were the ProJared allegations he was involved with underaged fans, so was that him?