Plagued Lolicon/Shotacon Defense Force - The people who jerk off to cartoon children and won't ever shut up about it

[Regio Consiglio]

A youtuber named mr_cynical made a video defending lolicon and later admitted to having sex with child prostitues while on sextourism to thailand
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And he was arrested this year for CP and molesting his younger sister

 

[LavenderMenace]

Happy Sunday! I've written up most of the first part of the thread, a history on how lolicon became popular. I've also updated the main OP so people can track the progress on the thread rewrite. Like always, feedback and criticism is greatly appreciated. I will go back and archive all links.

Forgive me on any grammar mistakes! Dunno why spoilers cuts the top part into two sections but whatever....

Spoiler: History

The following quoted parts are taken from the book
Lolicon: The Reality of ‘Virtual Child Pornography’ in Japan by Patrick W. Galbraith.
(Summary Website) Link | Archive (Full PDF) Link | Archive
I’ll provide more context between each quote. This is a better way to summarize the events leading to the popularity of lolicon.

Shōjo means “Young Girl”. Also Shojo means “Female virgin”

Spoiler: History

“Lolicon" is an abbreviation for “Lolita complex,” derived from Vladimir Nabokov’s novel Lolita (1955), but more associated with the Japanese translation of Russell Trainer’s The Lolita Complex in 1969.

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Lolita is a 1955 novel written by Russian-American novelist Vladimir Nabokov that addresses the controversial subject of hebephilia. The protagonist is a French literature professor who moves to New England and writes under the pseudonym Humbert Humbert. He describes his obsession with a 12-year-old "nymphet*", Dolores Haze, whom he kidnaps and sexually abuses after becoming her stepfather. Notable point: The girl, Lolita, never seduced Humbert in any way in the books. She was a victim of sexual abuse by Humbert who became obsessed with her and kidnapped her. Read a full summary of the book here.

*Nymphet means a sexually attractive, precocious girl barely in her teens​

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The Lolita Complex is a book that goes through case histories, professional opinions, court transcripts, interviews and police records, the author investigates the activities of real-life Lolitas and Humberts and offers insight into an important social problem. The book provides an abundance of case studies of such relationships in different parts of the country. These real life dramas demonstrate the prevalence of sexual experiences between young girls and older men, and the reasons for such relationships are carefully analyzed.

This book became extremely popular in Japan and is cited as one of the reasons why Lolicon took off and I cannot find a free copy online at the moment. The author’s name is Russell Raymond Trainer.

Spoiler: Small investigation into Russell Raymond Trainer

He used to have a wikipedia page but it was deleted after October 6, 2021.

This is the biography section:
None of his publishers is known to have ever supplied a biography, but Russell Trainer's family states that he was born in Detroit, Michigan and enrolled in law school at the University of Detroit. He served in the Philippines in the infantry during World War II and was awarded a Bronze Star. In 1946, he was the unsuccessful Democratic candidate for the first district seat in the Michigan State Senate. He was skilled at gaining people's confidence, and his career consisted of a variety of opportunistic enterprises, living mostly on ill-gotten gains, culminating with his arrest in Coldwater, Michigan, in 1959, where he attempted to cash a bad check. There were warrants for his arrest in several states. Trainer served 18 months in the Jackson State Penitentiary in Jackson, Michigan where he wrote his first novel, The Warden's Wife, which was published for the adult paperback market shortly after his release.
He remained in Detroit, and wrote The Lolita Complex, and a number of novels, most of them published by Midwood, as a part of a series of softcore paperbacks for the adult market. He also sold a number of children's stories and articles, under various pseudonyms.
Trainer was married twice, and the father of six children. He settled in California in 1966, and established his own publishing house, marketing books following his own writing genre, and died in Stockton, California, in 1992.

There are subtle differences in the pages but weirdly enough, the literary importance section gets rewritten a few times.

May 28, 2013
Trainer's importance stems from his publication in 1965, of his most famous work, The Lolita Complex, which had the appearance of a serious psychological work, with an extensive bibliography of legitimate authorities, who were liberally quoted and referenced from their work. Trainer, however, had no credentials at all as a psychologist, and many authorities saw the work as a sham and the author as a charlatan.

October 6, 2021
Trainer's importance stems from his publication in 1966 of his most famous work, The Lolita Complex, a work of pop psychology in which he criticized a perceived normalization of sexual relations between grown men and young girls. Trainer defines "Lolitaism" as a side effect of sexual liberation and as a symptom of cultural decay, stating that "the trend of all sex climbs steadily upward toward greater freedom, more looseness, more frequency, and more wicked abandon". He implicates the mass media for spreading Lolitaism, and suggests that it is a problem that cannot be resolved through legislation. The book has the appearance of a serious psychological work, with an extensive bibliography of legitimate authorities, who were liberally quoted and referenced from their work. Trainer, however, had no credentials at all as a psychologist, and many authorities saw the work as a sham and the author as a charlatan.

If you google Russell Trainer, you’ll get a military wiki page on him that’s basically a copy paste of the Wikipedia page that was removed. The page was up for deletion. Here’s what the discussion of deletion was.
Created without sources in 2010 (Specialermalink/351674872), and I couldn't find any that cover him in-depth or verify any biographical information. His name is mentioned in several sources with relation to his 1966 book The Lolita Complex (specifically a 1969 translation) as the source of the Japanese usage, but that is about all I can find (and I don't think the book is notable enough for an article either; I added Stapleton 2016, which gives a very brief description, and apparently there was a very short review, or perhaps just an ad, in The NYT Book Review in 1966 [1]). I was unable to find any information about his other books, which based on the titles and what the article says appear to be erotic pulp paperbacks and faux "case studies" in the vein of The Lolita Complex.
"None of his publishers is known to have ever supplied a biography, but Russell Trainer's family states..." from the first revision makes me think that the editor who wrote this was perhaps a family friend conducting original research.
— Goszei (talk) 06:38, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

I’m going to assume that Russell must have later realized that he brought out the degeneracy of Japan’s cartoon industry and decided to hide forever in shame. Fuck you Russell Trainer you pervert.

That same year, shōjo nudes began to appear in major media outlets in Japan. A photo collection titled Nymphet: The Myth of the 12-Year-Old was released by Nobel Shobō (Publisher). In 1972 and 1973, there was an “Alice boom” surrounding Alice in Wonderland, including nude photos inspired by the classic novel.​

The Nymphet was made by a photographer Kazuo Kenmouchi who’s known for his works involving sex and drugs. He made a photobook with an unspecified “young mattress” full of nudity. I also found a book of his called Europe that seems to feature the same girl. Not sure if the actress just appears underage but based on the preview images, I REALLY feel like this is a 12 year old nude. VIEW AT YOUR OWN RISK.

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Pedophiles use the Alice in Wonderland motif as a symbol of their perversion. Alice Day (April 25th) originally is supposed to celebrate the book but pedos have hijacked it into a day to celebrate pedophilia. Don't feel too bad because apparently Lewis might have been a pedo himself. Lewis Carroll, the creator of AiW, used to be VERY close friends with an 11 year old girl Alice Liddell (The girl Lewis based the character Alice after). After his death, people found out that the guy had A LOT of photos of young girls, some nude, whether or not he distributed them is unknown.
The BBC made a documentary called The Secret World of Lewis Carroll (2015), delving into how Lewis had been inappropriate with girls, including photographing one nude. I can’t go into it because holy shit it's another rabbit hole so just in short, the guy was in love with an 11 year old girl and was absolutely a pedophile.

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Keep in mind that these are only two examples of the many influences that fueled this lolicon movement. There were probably more examples from other countries that somehow made it into Japan’s borders between 1960-1970s.

“Magazines began to appear, carrying nude photos, reviews, essays on the appeal of young girls, fiction and “reader submissions,” including illegal photographs of girls on the street taken in moments of unanticipated exposure. This slowed down with laws passed in 1985, which were a response to the overexposure of the sexualized shōjo. Takatsuki Yasushi notes that the boom in photographic images faded in the late 1980s not only because of the backlash, but also because many young men preferred two-dimensional images of shōjo.

In layman's terms, perverts actually took creep shots of young girls and teenagers to submit them to magazines. There’s the origin of Japanese men taking upskirt photos.

“Pornographic manga had been done in a more realistic style, but, as cultural critic Takekuma Kentarō recalls, with Azuma suddenly “Tezuka-style cute characters were having sex”. At first, only a minority saw these images as erotic, but soon there was a vocal fandom (much to the chagrin of many older fans). This marked the birth of a genre of pornographic manga that was stimulating despite being, or precisely for being, unrealistic. While some lolicon images demonstrate a sharp contrast between realistic bodies and cartoony faces, the general trend after Azuma was towards an unrealistic (iconic, deformed) aesthetic.
The so-called “lolicon boom” came in the early 1980s. This was a time of extreme consumption, when the market ripened enough to support niches. Specialty magazines appeared, among them publications dedicated to lolicon such as Lemon People (from 1981) and Manga Burikko (from 1982).”

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Both Lemon People and Manga Burikko were porn magazines that featured lolicon (both teenaged and little girl type). They’re the pioneers of hentai becoming more about fantasy settings of teenagers and little girls getting ass raped by tentacles and monsters. Beforehand, erotic manga had more of a mature tone to it. Another fun fact is that Manga Burikko had to stop publishing REAL photos of girls because views got uncomfortable seeing a real ass teenager in the same magazine of cartoon teenagers getting fucked.

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“‘I don’t feel anything for the photographs in the opening pages.For that reason, I’d like you to stop with the pictures and run only manga’ (Manga Burikko,August 1983: 201). Manga Burikko’s editors respond that on orders from the top “there is no way we're taking the photographs out.” Complaints about the photographs as well as pornographiccontent continued, including a letter from Suzuki Yōko, a female reader from MiyazakiPrefecture, who praises the artists featured in Manga Burikko, but explains, “I feel nothing formanga that is simply about penetration or girls being raped. I psychologically can’t accept it”(Manga Burikko, October 1983: 193). It seems that the editors finally yielded to reader demands in November 1983, symbolized by the issue’s subtitle: “Totally bishōjo comic magazine” (marumaru bishōjo komikkushi). Gravure idol photography is entirely absent, and remained so for the rest of the magazine’s existence.”
-Lolicon: The Reality of ‘Virtual Child Pornography’ in Japan

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Akio Nakamori was a vocal critic of the lolicon magazine Manga Burikko and invented the term “Otaku” in 1983.
Quote: “Otaku definitely lack masculine skills. So they are content to carry around pictures of anime characters like Minky Momo and Nanako. I would call it a two-dimensional complex. They can't even talk to real women. In less extreme cases, they orbit around idol singers who don't show their femininity, or they become perverted and delve into lolicon. These guys will never accept a photo of a naked mature woman.” (Fuckin Based Akio)

Another major shift in the public view of lolicon, as well as anime & manga in general, was the serial killer case of Tsutomu Miyazaki.

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Tsutomu Miyazaki (宮﨑 勤) was a Japanese serial killer who murdered 4 young girls in Tokyo and Saitama Prefecture between August 1988 and June 1989. He abducted and killed the girls, aged from 4 to 7, in his car before dismembering them and molesting their corpses. He also engaged in cannibalism, preserved body parts as trophies, and taunted the families of his victims. He was also dubbed the Otaku Killer because when the police raided his home, Tsutomu had a fuck ton of anime, manga, lolicon magazines, horror tapes, hentai, and child porn.

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This case caused a satanic panic effect towards otakus and lolicon enjoyers because when Tsutomu’s goon cave was raided, it had explicit lolicon and child porn. Tsutomu was deemed sane by the courts and was genuinely attracted to lolicon AND real life children. While not the direct cause, lolicon had a major hand in influencing his actions and basically proves that lolicon does NOT help people who have pedophilic urges. All it took was one person to feel bold enough to enact his sick fantasies on 4 children who did not deserve the fate they got.

“Many – espectially Japan’s news media – began to blame the extreme animation and films in his possession, and a moral panic began around mondo films and the new genre of animated pornography. Video stores and hobby shops were raided and scrutinized for any extreme content that allegedly turned a regular man into the Killer. To many families, the sudden rise in ero-anime‘s popularity was proportional to this sudden spur in violent crime. Ever since then, and still to this time of writing, “otaku” is still a tainted word in Japanese. Many foreigners have innocently adopted the word at its pre-Otaku Killer meaning as a shorthand for an anime lover, but many Japanese people who were alive during the Killer’s capture and sentencing will hear it and immediately think of him.”

Vaye Moreno 2020​

The recession of the late 1990s in Japan was when anime took off. With the economy in the toilet, social pressure from families to their children to be successful at an all time high, and the increase of NEETs and Hikikomori lifestyles, the anime & manga niche was in full blast, causing sales in anime related media to be major money makers. Anime became the main way to escape from reality. Japan, known to never let an opportunity to make money, embraced this niche culture. This also includes appealing to fans of lolicon and shotacon. Even though real life images of teenage girls weren’t as popular as drawn little girls, underground companies still sold illegal photos of teenagers in thongs and bikinis in public areas.
Photos of preteen girls in thongs now big business ( 2007 )

I haven’t talked about shotacon much but it has a very similar origin story. The term "shotacon" is a Japanese contraction of Shōtarō complex (Like Lolita Complex), which is a reference to the young male character Shōtarō (正太郎) from Tetsujin 28-go. It’s extremely hard to find where exactly shotacon started getting popular but all sources speculate that when yaoi became popular, the demand for a male equivalent of lolicon followed.

Japan has unfortunately are slow when it comes to changes and law making. Due to outside pressure from other countries condemning Japan not having a proper law against child porn, this was the cause to how lolicon/little girl images were rampantly being shared in the 1980s.
UNICEF says Japan failing to control child porn ( 2008 )
Japan’s Lolita Merchants feel the heat ( 2008 )
The “Holy Land” closes; junior idol DVD business only has six months left ( 2015 )

 

[Aztec Death Squad]

feedback and criticism is greatly appreciated

Very good write up. The only thing I would suggest you include is that Nabokov's Lolita was inspired by a real crime that was a sensation across the country. So readers at the time would have been able to see the direct inspiration for the book and wouldn't assume-as some might now-that it was all from Nabokov's demented imagination.

Also wanted comment on the lack of information on shota in the history. Since you mentioned Lewis Carroll, I wonder if J.M. Barrie should also be mentioned, since he did many of the same things as Carroll, including the being very close with young boys that weren't his and having nude photographs of young boys. There's very little on his wikipedia page, so I would recommend reading the top review of this book for a summary. It might be a stretch considering I can't find any evidence Peter Pan has had any impact on shota to the extent Alice has had on lolita.

History like this really flattens the argument this is just fiction, especially the pictures of the real people next to the drawings. Sort of like refuting the argument that furry "isn't a fetish" by being able to show that first fursuit was unabashedly sexual in design.

Never give these creatures an inch.

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

Japan should be fuckin nuked a third time with the incredible amount of damage they've done to the world's mens' brains via lolishota. Fuck them.

This book became extremely popular in Japan and is cited as one of the reasons why Lolicon took off and I cannot find a free copy online at the moment. The author’s name is Russell Raymond Trainer.

Attached the pdf of it. It's a long read at 328 pages though.

WHAT THE FUCK

 

[Kari Kamiya]

And the classic “she’s older than she looks” cope.

Oh yeah of course. Looking at her, I totally belive that she had two kids with that 12 year old hip bone…..

I genuinely hate the fact that pedophiles say they like Lolishit for the “aesthetic”.

“Loli aesthetic” doesn’t fucking exist. It’s called “Moe” you fucking degenerates.

A'ight, I think this could be a good point of discussion in determining the difference between "loli aesthetic" (which I agree isn't a thing even with the moé style, but I'll get to it) and "loli for getting your jollies off" characters because context always matters. I'm more familiar with the former case than the latter simply because the latter is something that comes out of the blue in most cases and are extremely frustrating to deal with, though I do have one example of such at the end simply because it's pretty egregious in the fandom.

So Hayase Kinue there is a character from Masamune-kun's Revenge. She is the mother of the titular character, and she is indeed stated to be a 42-year-old housewife with a passion for cooking (Masamune used to be a fat kid). Her husband is currently in prison because he got arrested on pedophile charges after being seen walking around with her and their child even though they're legally married and she's of age. That's the joke.

Konata Izumi ends up turning 18 as you follow her senior year in high school. Since her classmates do graduate at the end of the series, you can determine they may also be 18 by then, but I wonder if it's due to Konata's popularity that we even have her age to begin with. Well anyway, Konata is also the spitting image of her mother, Kanata, which I believe also includes personality, to the point her friends thought a picture of her mother was of Konata herself. I do not recall lolicon jokes in Lucky Star, though, that's more of a fandom thing. This is one of many examples of the kind of phenomenon in moé where the mother is younger than she looks, and it's so common it tends to be done to poke fun of itself as shown with Masamune-kun's Revenge. So it's very much tongue-in-cheek, and you can typically glean this through hints in the series if you're savvy to it.

For an obscure example that's a bit more straightforward:

This here is Shoko Shina, a minor character from the long-running I-can't-believe-it's-not-real-hentai-ecchi manga Futari Ecchi. She's 24 and married to a giant, and is a smut novelist, but she dresses like a doll.

And her husband is apparently a lolicon which was why they got married and might be why she dresses as such. Yes, you do see at least one sex scene between the two of them, and because of her realistic proportions, the narrator has to consistently chime in "REMEMBER: SHE'S 24!", although artists will notice she somewhat has a pelvic curve and thicker thighs that real children do not have. Still, that's her body type, and it possibly plays into the reason you rarely see her get into sexy situations despite the disclaimers. (That's why it's a bit jarring that in a manga about adults having so much sex you see the main character's younger sister, who's 16, start exploring her sexuality, but 16 is the age of consent in Japan, so...)

Now this here is the more straightforward example for this thread, although I have to put an asterisk here because I have so many questions about Yuka Mochida's inclusion in the horror game Corpse Party.

She's a 14-year-old middle schooler, but doesn't look and act her age partly due to her oniichan complex, and partly because it's highly likely the creator is a lolicon himself. At least in this case, you could say she's filling in for an archetype, but it turns out Yuka's main role is to be the little sister who gets targeted by a murderous psycho who might have a little sister complex taken up to eleven. And she is also the main subject in the piss fetish the creator possibly also has, and yes, it's extremely uncomfortable, made much more worse in the manga and its ecchi spin-off. There's a number of scenes involving her trying to hold it in when she doesn't find an actual toilet and while she's clearly scared to death during every single moment, there's way too much focus put on it that it might as well be fanservice for the piss fetish lolicons out there. Characters who hang themselves do wet themselves, but they don't get the main focus on it like Yuka does.

The kicker here is that none of that is present in the original game. She has a moment where she has to go to the bathroom since this is a trope in horror, but then the stall starts to flood with blood because of a malevolent ghost and her brother has to save her. She doesn't need to pee again after that.

This is such a very fine line between being played for horror and being a straightforward loli fetish that I don't know why everything surrounding her had to change from the original game or if this was due to the creator sneaking in his fetish in the remake thinking no one would notice or care. The situation here with Yuka is one out of many in manga and visual novels that unless it's out-right explicit about it being a lolicon series, you just cannot escape the possibility of coming across it. This right here is the reason why normal anime fans regularly get lumped in with the real lolicons, and Corpse Party is a niche series to begin with. It's a horror series, but it got upgraded to the guro subgenre (or borderline-guro, the number of pantyshots in Blood Covered is sus), and so a piss fetish sneaking its way into it wouldn't have been unfeasible.

Of course, it's worth pointing out lolicons do have common overlap with those who have imouto (little sister) complexes and incest fans on top of other fetishes like piss, so it's just a potpourri of degeneracy at that point.

This is why lolicon is not an aesthetic like the tweet claims because it's a character type. Anyone who claims otherwise is trying to deflect they have a type, and their 2-D (maybe 3-D) waifus tend to be of this type. There's a reason "moé" is used when talking about character designs because then everyone looks like it while it has to be stated that a character is the loli type. But because lolicons just can't shut the fuck up and stop cooming, and pedophiles aren't being stoned on a daily basis, the non-offending (and sometimes adult) characters will forever be grouped in with the marketed lolicon stuff, and this causes innocent huge-guy/tiny-girl dynamic fans to get swept into it.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

In the words of Jock Jams - yall ready for this?

this comment is gold - and they fucking hearted it

 

[Sneeding]

History like this really flattens the argument this is just fiction, especially the pictures of the real people next to the drawings

Dosent the backlash prove the opposite tho? The sentiment was against having the photos and it was the least popular part of the magazine


To me sounds more like the magazine experimented with that idea but failed

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

Dosent the backlash prove the opposite tho? The sentiment was against having the photos was the least popular part of the magazine
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To me sounds more like the magazine experimented with that idea but failed
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If the girls were actually adult or/and had post-pubescent features, there's an argument to be made that they just weren't satisfied because the girls weren't the right proportions. If the girls were pre-pubescent, one can argue that they're truly pedos who only like drawn child porn.

 

[Aztec Death Squad]

WHAT THE FUCK

Trainer had no knowledge in history, anthropology and was literally just passing along his fantasies as fact. My suspicion is this happened far more than anyone is willing to admit because it would mean dumping all that highly regarded primary literature in the garbage. Like books on tribes in Papua New Guinea that are used to justify all sorts of degenerate behavior because some little group of people that magically no one but the author has ever seen do it on the daily.

Dosent the backlash prove the opposite tho? The sentiment was against having the photos was the least popular part of the magazine

More likely the readers are complaining for the same reason loli consumers complain when you bring up that loli artists often trace real CP. They don't like the pictures because they want to goon guilt-free.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

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To be fair it would be closer to Usagi Drop, as with Boku it was clear as day that the creators were pedos, with this one it is just highly likely that they are and you also have an old man and a little girl

 

[Vibe_Guy]

There's a number of scenes involving her trying to hold it in when she doesn't find an actual toilet and while she's clearly scared to death during every single moment, there's way too much focus put on it that it might as well be fanservice for the piss fetish lolicons out there.

I do distinctly remember back in the day when Pewdiepie played corpse party. Even in the video game in each section of the game there's atleast one section of characters needing to piss which... first time, ok. Two times bit odd but understandable. Then the third time comes where a girl is urged to piss in a bucket and now I wondered what the fuck does any of this have to do with ghosts or parties?

She's a 14-year-old middle schooler, but doesn't look and act her age partly due to her oniichan complex

This too, there's no sibling rivalry or otherwise normal interpersonal interactions. It feels like what a single child imagines a sibling relationship would look like.

 

[Sneeding]

More likely the readers are complaining for the same reason loli consumers complain when you bring up that loli artists often trace real CP. They don't like the pictures because they want to goon guilt-free.

At that time 13 was already legal so I dont think there was much guilt into play compared to something that nowadays is illegal and shunned upon

now I wondered what the fuck does any of this have to do with ghosts or parties?

I think it was attempt to make fun at horror tropes but the delivery was shit and author's humiliation fetish leaked

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

History stuff

Thank you for the write-up. I am shocked to learn that a random book, written in response to Nabakov's novel, was the catalyst for lolicon in Japan. It seems so... random.

Like books on tribes in Papua New Guinea that are used to justify all sorts of degenerate behavior because some little group of people that magically no one but the author has ever seen do it on the daily.

Margaret Mead basically did this, and it turned out the locals were either trolling her or she made a ton of shit up because she was a weirdo.

 

[LavenderMenace]

Very good write up. The only thing I would suggest you include is that Nabokov's Lolita was inspired by a real crime that was a sensation across the country.

I did see an article mentioning that. I’ll include it in the info about Lolita.

Also wanted comment on the lack of information on shota in the history. Since you mentioned Lewis Carroll, I wonder if J.M. Barrie should also be mentioned, since he did many of the same things as Carroll, including the being very close with young boys that weren't his and having nude photographs of young boys. There's very little on his wikipedia page, so I would recommend reading the top review of this book for a summary. It might be a stretch considering I can't find any evidence Peter Pan has had any impact on shota to the extent Alice has had on lolita..

Wikipedia didn’t have much to jump off of when it came to information on Shotacon. I’ll definitely try to look into more with Peter Pan and young boy stuff. Might have to see if Japan has an organization like NAMBLA over there…

Attached the pdf of it. It's a long read at 328 pages though.

Thank you for finding it! I’ll definitely attach it to the main thread. I don’t really have time to read through some of these books but I do want them available for others to read.

More likely the readers are complaining for the same reason loli consumers complain when you bring up that loli artists often trace real CP. They don't like the pictures because they want to goon guilt-free.

I agree. Seeing a real woman with a drawing was like a massive reality check for them.

Honestly Lolicon was split into two sections. One were weirdos who wanted to just see cute drawings of teens and kids with no perverted elements. Because Japan has this really weird fixation of youth, innocence, purity and virginity…Almost like readers had this para-social relationship with a cartoon character and seeing them raped or defiled in any way upset them on a personal level...

And the other were degenerate freaks who liked imagining themselves as the little girl getting gang raped. As if that doesn’t sound fucking crazy.

Of course you can see which crowd was catered to more in the future.

A youtuber named mr_cynical made a video defending lolicon and later admitted to having sex with child prostitues while on sextourism to thailand
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And he was arrested this year for CP and molesting his younger sister

A lolicon Xitter artist Mammoth (dorontai, 도른타비), the illustrator of the Korean game company Nexon's game Blue_Archive, said on his Twitter account that he practices drawing by tracing Japanese children's gravure magazines that feature real children

This became a huge controversy in Korea because pornography featuring actual children is a crime punishable by the Child and Adolescent Protection Act in Korea. As the controversy grew, he deleted his Twitter account and ran away. He reportedly changed his Twitter account, nickname, and username frequently, pretended to be Japanese, and used a VPN to avoid being caught by police.

Good find! Adding these to the list.

Tsutomu Miyazaki is the biggest well known instant of loli not helping pedophilic urges.

I do wanna collect instances of loli/shota artists overstepping and involving real children and dedicate an entire section to it.

If y’all wanna help me on that, please post instances here or DM me!

 

[Toothp!ck]

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/480348171

https://archive.ph/Akb5L

/pol/tards discovered this thread

 

[Sneeding]

lol

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/480348171

https://archive.ph/Akb5L

/pol/tards discovered this thread
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This is like the third time that a PG thread talking about sexual deviancies has been leaked on 4chan in the last 4 months. The same happened to the Harahel and 2chen ones. I wonder who's the retard who keeps doing this

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Surprisingly tame limp-wristed whimpers from the /pol/tards. They actually allow spics to be among them?

 

[Kiwisee]

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/480348171

https://archive.ph/Akb5L

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Its cute that they think we need them to defend us. We ain't that weak, we’ve been defending ourselves for over a decade without any help from pedophiles arguing that gooning over anime children is their civil right.

We are just being consistent, if anything.

 

[Northern Blockhead]

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/raging-golden-eagle-rge.30327/page-12#post-19239113 Crossposting my post I made on Raging Golden Eagle, as he has been reposting loli art on his profile.

Also, inadvertently discovered this 8 year old KF thread lmao.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/loli-is-not-cp.19483/