Careercow Mark Waid / William Mark Waid - Comics legend turned laughingstock, SJW lunatic, Dislikes Asians, Sued for Tortious Interference, King Baby, “The Strong Protect The Weak”

[damian]

The only way you could look at page 1 of this thread and NOT come to the conclusion that Mark Waid is an irreconcilable asshole is if your internet sucks and the images don't load for some reason. 32 images proving he's a fucking twat to anyone he disagrees with, and bizarre leaps of logic in how he deals with anyone he sees as an "enemy."

Revisiting it though, I see there's a few broken youtube videos that have come down now; that could use some pruning @damian

Dont know what happened to Racket’s video but I remade the same link and it seems to work now, the others I added the archives a couple days ago.

 

[JohnMc]

The fact that this scumbag still gets work [and considered a legend no less] after sending a Black Wreath to a former employer[Marc Alessi founder of Crossgen] after his wife died proves that the Comic Book Industry deserves to burn to the ground.

 

[Boobie Bomb]

The fact that this scumbag still gets work [and considered a legend no less] after sending a Black Wreath to a former employer[Marc Alessi founder of Crossgen] after his wife died proves that the Comic Book Industry deserves to burn to the ground.

Well, he should get a new career outside comics. Plus, he bold as hell

 

[Yamma Damma]

back on the farms again, keffals is a fauxcunt bitch again.
Necroing this thread for a mini spat among old comic dorks.

ClownfishTV made a video on it but the source is Bounding into Comics. Mark Waid went on a rant spewing psuedo-wisdoms about surviving in an industry he helped destroy and whining about "ageism". This radiates the same woe-is-me energy as the likes of Dobson.



Rob Liefeld, (one of the) creator(s) of Deadpool, chimed in and retaliated.


To which Waid immediately switches from wise pacifist to bitter antagonist.

>privately
You're in the age of the internet Waid, you can't afford to have it both ways anymore where you could act like a vicious asshole and nobody could come back on you about it because there was no record or no meat for lawsuits, and then turn around and act virtuous in public to lure in more people to use and abuse.

Waid complaining about ageism might mean he's not getting work anymore for that reason. And not, you know, being more trouble than he's worth just like the diversity hires who also aren't getting work anymore. I hope that's true. It's the very least he fucking deserves.

 

[AnOminous]

ClownfishTV made a video on it but the source is Bounding into Comics. Mark Waid went on a rant spewing psuedo-wisdoms about surviving in an industry he helped destroy and whining about "ageism". This radiates the same woe-is-me energy as the likes of Dobson.

Fuck this pussified little marshmallow man and his pussified whining.

 

[Zaryiu2]

LolWaid

 

[Yamma Damma]

Necroing once again because the comic industry's dumpster fire got more lighter fluid squeezed on it recently.

Backstory: A comic shop owner named Glenn went viral for saying the obvious of why the Big 2's books aren't selling (we love the characters for who they are, not who the authors are. because nobody fucking cares who the authors are. Shut up and make good comics.) and got barked at by the usual suspects. But this time, they got barked at back because Glenn is one of the last kinds of people comic makers should be pissing off: the one who's stocking their books. the vital connection that gets them paid. the one who "makes them feel seen" that they constantly demand so much. Not to mention they made fun of his looks and not addressing what he said. Mark Millar had Glenn on his podcast show to talk more about it and it's not a bad listen. (Before this, Millar deemed the usual suspects who made the comic industry it is as "cancel pigs" and boy is it bothering them).

To bring it back to Waid, he went on a faceberg rant about the whole thing and ended it with this.

>"see the industry burn down"
hey buddy.....It's already burning. You have a front row seat. And you're holding the matchbox.

If you want to read it all (if you can stand such tardation), Fandom Pulse has it all here.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Waid is such a fucking train wreck to watch. Because somewhere in there underneath all the cluster B personality disorders and unfiltered asshole is a good writer who has crafted some of comics best stories. But I don't know why anyone would continue to hire him at this point? At best he's another lawsuit waiting to happen.

Unlike Mark Millar, Waid has really only found sucxess with mainstream established characters. He's never managed to get much traction with creator owned stuff. His best is Irredeemable. Which is basically evil murderous Superman. Garth Ennis and Robert Kirkman both did it much much better. But looking back at Waids book I realize that it is actually Waids derranged self insert power fantasy. What if Mark Waid was Superman?

 

[CowPox]

Waid is such a fucking train wreck to watch. Because somewhere in there underneath all the cluster B personality disorders and unfiltered asshole is a good writer who has crafted some of comics best stories. But I don't know why anyone would continue to hire him at this point? At best he's another lawsuit waiting to happen.

Unlike Mark Millar, Waid has really only found sucxess with mainstream established characters. He's never managed to get much traction with creator owned stuff. His best is Irredeemable. Which is basically evil murderous Superman. Garth Ennis and Robert Kirkman both did it much much better. But looking back at Waids book I realize that it is actually Waids derranged self insert power fantasy. What if Mark Waid was Superman?

His comics have always read like geeky saturday morning cartoons, kingdom come to me came off as incredibly pretentious and iirc was frame worked from a Alan Moore storyboard and was and is to this day still is carried and remembered mostly by its staggeringly beautiful artwork. What are some good Waid stories i'd genuinlly like to check them out if they exist?

 

[JohnMc]

Necroing once again because the comic industry's dumpster fire got more lighter fluid squeezed on it recently.

Backstory: A comic shop owner named Glenn went viral for saying the obvious of why the Big 2's books aren't selling (we love the characters for who they are, not who the authors are. because nobody fucking cares who the authors are. Shut up and make good comics.) and got barked at by the usual suspects. But this time, they got barked at back because Glenn is one of the last kinds of people comic makers should be pissing off: the one who's stocking their books. the vital connection that gets them paid. the one who "makes them feel seen" that they constantly demand so much. Not to mention they made fun of his looks and not addressing what he said. Mark Millar had Glenn on his podcast show to talk more about it and it's not a bad listen. (Before this, Millar deemed the usual suspects who made the comic industry it is as "cancel pigs" and boy is it bothering them).

To bring it back to Waid, he went on a faceberg rant about the whole thing and ended it with this.
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>"see the industry burn down"
hey buddy.....It's already burning. You have a front row seat. And you're holding the matchbox.

If you want to read it all (if you can stand such tardation), Fandom Pulse has it all here.

Well Marky. I'm happy to watch the industry burn to the ground thanks to scum like you.

 

[Coo Coo Bird]

His comics have always read like geeky saturday morning cartoons, kingdom come to me came off as incredibly pretentious and iirc was frame worked from a Alan Moore storyboard and was and is to this day still is carried and remembered mostly by its staggeringly beautiful artwork. What are some good Waid stories i'd genuinlly like to check them out if they exist?

Usually when people talk about Mark Waid, they talk about his run on the Flash, starting with issue #62. (I always thought the previous writer, William Messner-Loebs, was underrated though.) He was the writer from #62-130, 142-162 , and 231-247, although #225 serves as a good finale for the volume.

 

[RodgerDodger]

His comics have always read like geeky saturday morning cartoons, kingdom come to me came off as incredibly pretentious and iirc was frame worked from a Alan Moore storyboard and was and is to this day still is carried and remembered mostly by its staggeringly beautiful artwork. What are some good Waid stories i'd genuinlly like to check them out if they exist?

Kingdom Come was mostly Alex Ross's story. Here's a big tell. The elderly pastor that is the pov character? That's Ross's father. Waid was brought in to script. Ie to add dialog over Ross's art in what used to be known as "The Marvel Method"

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Waid is such a fucking train wreck to watch. Because somewhere in there underneath all the cluster B personality disorders and unfiltered asshole is a good writer who has crafted some of comics best stories. But I don't know why anyone would continue to hire him at this point? At best he's another lawsuit waiting to happen.

Unlike Mark Millar, Waid has really only found sucxess with mainstream established characters. He's never managed to get much traction with creator owned stuff. His best is Irredeemable. Which is basically evil murderous Superman. Garth Ennis and Robert Kirkman both did it much much better. But looking back at Waids book I realize that it is actually Waids derranged self insert power fantasy. What if Mark Waid was Superman?

He tried to do that Thrillbent thing where he was getting comic pros to write webcomics, not understanding how webcomics make their money or build their audience, and it fell apart quickly. It was free for a year, then he had to put it behind a paywall because of how much he was losing, and then the whole thing was cancelled.

Irredeemable worked because the premise is simple: What if Superman was never Clark Kent? It goes into why the Kents, Lois Lane, the Daily Planet, and even his Clark Kent identity are important to the mythos of Superman... Until he dips away from that and leans more into the "world where Superman is evil" angle of the story. Had it been twelve issues reconstructing why secret identities are necessary for superheroes, it probably would have been a good book.

He'd do a lot better if, like Kirkman, he just made a straight up superhero world and played around in it.

 

[LaughJoke2.0]

I visit comic boards and never even heard of this nonsense. Goes to show you no cares when these "creators" start being pissy because someone said they're not special. I mean the guy wasn't even complaining about diversity or anything just telling shitty writers to stop using established characters no matter Peter Parker or Miles Morales as self inserts.

When I was a teen, I wanted to write comics. Thank God that never happened having to deal with these Thin-Skinned Drama Queen Bitches would be exhausting.

 

[Second Missing Primarch]

After the thread got bumped, I went back through it and got curious about whatever happened to that Humanoids project Waid was hired to be creative director of, so I did some poking around, and wouldn't you know it, it died a quiet, unmourned death within a year and a half. None of the projects lasted longer than 10 issues. Even Kwanza what's-his-face couldn't be bothered to finish the series he was working on; he bailed after 8 issues and left King Baby to write a hasty two-issue conclusion that isn't listed on Humanoids' site. I'd love to see the sales numbers on those books. I'm guessing that the theme of "humorless social justice preaching" was even less appetizing coming from a bunch of washouts and D-listers at an arthouse Euro imprint than it is when the Big 2 are doing it.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

Oh no! Mark can't write superheroes because the orange man won. What will we do?

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

Oh no! Mark can't write superheroes because the orange man won. What will we do?

Read manga and everything else.

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

Oh no! Mark can't write superheroes because the orange man won. What will we do?

That's so fucking weak, even for Waid. Hergé still made Tin Tin when Belgium fell under German occupation, then when Brussels was liberated by the Allies, Hergé was arrested and put on trail for treason because Tin Tin was published in Le Soir (a Nazi run newspaper), after all that he still didn't stop making Tin Tin comics. The surviving cartoonists at Charlie Hebdo didn't stop making comics when their friends and collogues were killed by sand niggers butt hurt over cartoons about Muhammad, but I guess that having a President you don't like is good enough reason to stop doing what you 'love'. Funny that conservative writers didn't have the same issues when Joe was in office.

 

[AnOminous]

That's so fucking weak, even for Waid. Hergé still made Tin Tin when Belgium fell under German occupation, then when Brussels was liberated by the Allies, Hergé was arrested and put on trail for treason because Tin Tin was published in Le Soir (a Nazi run newspaper), after all that he still didn't stop making Tin Tin comics.

So weak. Such a tiny little marshmallow man. A faggot. A weakling. A coward.

Hergé was God.

 

[GloryHole Stalker]

Lol, this shit's funny. I'm a huge Alex Ross fan. I remember during the fallout between Ross and Waid after Kingdom Come, Ross was seen as the bad guy in that fight. Looks like it was Waid all along.