Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[glioblastoma multiforme]

OK so I know "thinktank says" is code for "so just ignore this article" but it has some numbers in it that are quite stark:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/04/nhs-faces-avalanche-of-demand-for-autism-and-adhd-services-thinktank-warns

"Some 172,040 people were on waiting lists as of December 2023, up from 117,020 a year earlier and more than five times the 32,220 recorded in December 2019."

Just wondering how much of this is driven by autism and ADHD being all the rage, suspect a lot is online munchies taking up resources others need for a change.

Edit, another article, Guardian are buying wholly into this shit, can't say i'm surprised given they've featured thread subjects in the past: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...ce of ADHD in,the country for ADHD assessment.

 

[Otterly]

I would love if any med fags could tell me if there is any hand disability that makes you unable to feed yourself but apparently makes power tools and painting fine.

Not really no. She’s claiming deQuervains, which an awful lot of women get after having babies, it’s also called ‘mummy thumb’ for that very reason. It’s a repetitive strain injury, you know how you pick a baby up if it’s lying on its back? You kind of go under the arms with your hands held with the thumbs up and lift the baby under the arms in the crook of that thumb and fingers? That’s what causes it for women mainly. It is painful but it’s usually short term, once you stop being able to lift the baby like, or you need to engage the rest of the arm more it’ll heal (postpartum women are very prone to tendon issues due to relaxin and having to lug about a heavy baby constantly.) treatment is a splint and rest. It’s not usually disabling.
What’s funny here is that feeding yourself wouldn’t really be an issue but the movement where you’re screwing a screw in (grip n twist with a screwdriver) is out, it’ll cause you pain and make the tendons in your wrist make unpleasant (but fairly harmless) snappy noises.

It’s one of the reasons a lot of women struggle with jars after having a baby for a while - grip and twist is the weakness. It usually goes after a while

 

[Dead Wife]

I’m usually quite desensitised to the things I read online but Tricia and her sourdough starter lines/bloodstream is pretty horrifying. They’ll name the next everything-resistant superbug after her.

Kate Farms periodically interjecting with “was it worth it, Tricia?” inspired my inner Van Gogh.

 

[Perdita]

Jess has also casually admitted to Blue Badge fraud:

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As the rules very clearly state: “You must never give the badge to friends or family to allow them to park for free, even if they are visiting you.”

Her super-severe MCAS & gastroparesis allow her to eat extremely spicy food. Obviously spicy food was part of her authentic Bajan upbringing

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If she can get her hands on ADHD meds in exchange for taking antipsychotics, Jess plans to agree then just not take the latter. For someone who destroyed her own bladder with infections, she’s very blasé about the risk of an infected piercing, too.

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That ambulatory wheelchair users exist is a given. Their homes are not adapted to the degree Jess’ has been though (even allowing for the variation in what different LAs offer); & an individual with the degree of disability Jess claims wouldn’t be posing for photos like the ones from the “aftermath” of the Schuh PR event.

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[Special spoonie]

Jess has also casually admitted to Blue Badge fraud:

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As the rules very clearly state: “You must never give the badge to friends or family to allow them to park for free, even if they are visiting you.”

Her super-severe MCAS & gastroparesis allow her to eat extremely spicy food. Obviously spicy food was part of her authentic Bajan upbringing

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If she can get her hands on ADHD meds in exchange for taking antipsychotics, Jess plans to agree then just not take the latter. For someone who destroyed her own bladder with infections, she’s very blasé about the risk of an infected piercing, too.

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That ambulatory wheelchair users exist is a given. Their homes are not adapted to the degree Jess’ has been though (even allowing for the variation in what different LAs offer); & an individual with the degree of disability Jess claims wouldn’t be posing for photos like the ones from the “aftermath” of the Schuh PR event.

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Weird, if her psychosis is as severe as she claims, that she would not take them to get her precious stims. Her claims from last year for anyone who missed:

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But for fun this is not a new claim since she’s accused the farms of inducing psychosis before:

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She has scored her fix and now complaining it’s not enough. Someone tried to actually do their job and say she shouldn’t be on this but unfortunately she’s found some quack willing to advocate for her. She’s probably gone private

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[Oracular Slug]

she’s very blasé about the risk of an infected piercing, too.

Meh, that's not infected. She seems the sort to turn "new-ish piercings get irritated easily" into a super horrible woe is me infection instead of just par the course. It's really common for people to mistake an angry piercing for an infected one if they've only seen the former, so it'd be super easy to just keep irritating it and parading it around as "infected".

 

[babyTAP]

I know when I’m cusping on the edge of sanity and my wrists are in brief remission from crappin’ out, I too take pains to make sure I’m swapping out the markers I use so my tortured scribbles appear in reverse ROYGBIV format before peppering the pages with the appropriate craft stickers. & you’re damn sure I’m gonna be popping that collarbone out for every photo. Ladies, ammi right?

 

[Otterly]

I know when I’m cusping on the edge of sanity and my wrists are in brief remission from crappin’ out, I too take pains to make sure I’m swapping out the markers I use so my tortured scribbles appear in reverse ROYGBIV format before peppering the pages with the appropriate craft stickers. & you’re damn sure I’m gonna be popping that collarbone out for every photo. Ladies, ammi right?

Schizophrenia produces a set of quite recognisable changes in what and how people write (klang associations, word salad, jerky writing due to movement disorder and and weird associations.) you can spot it very easily. Probably true for psychosis in general. None of them are present in her writing. What she has there is an eating disorder and a child’s expectation from films of what crazy people writing looks like.
Example: youd be writing about the bins being moved by unseen forces and might see something like ‘. The bins wins swims Jim’s moved with a groove I move to the groove…’ it’s like a chain of association, breaking words up and reforming them.
You know it when you see it.

 

[TismFarmer]

step 1: purchase one (1) bottle of affordable vodka.
Steps 2-6: ????
Step 7: wake up to digital stickers.

If those are Stolichnaya posts, imagine what we'd get with Ciroc!
Maybe we should be fundraising...

 

[athousandrustynails]

OK so I know "thinktank says" is code for "so just ignore this article" but it has some numbers in it that are quite stark:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/04/nhs-faces-avalanche-of-demand-for-autism-and-adhd-services-thinktank-warns

"Some 172,040 people were on waiting lists as of December 2023, up from 117,020 a year earlier and more than five times the 32,220 recorded in December 2019."

Just wondering how much of this is driven by autism and ADHD being all the rage, suspect a lot is online munchies taking up resources others need for a change.

Edit, another article, Guardian are buying wholly into this shit, can't say i'm surprised given they've featured thread subjects in the past: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/apr/04/audhd-what-is-behind-rocketing-rates-life-changing-diagnosis#:~:text=The prevalence of ADHD in,the country for ADHD assessment.

It's all people who want excuses or explanations for their lack of attention/social/organisational skills. People aren't clued up yet to the effects of the Internet on our brains any of the cultural implications of having no tangible goals or dare I say hope of having a goal. They also want a Get Out Of Jail Free card so their families/friends/employers/schools can't hold them accountable.

Every second person I speak to now has autism or adhd or is trying to get a Dx.

It's actually a fascinating phenomenon and I'm desperate to be far far on the other side of it just so i can learn wtf went on with society.
There's no way I could be convinced that it's a real uptick in incidences unless you told me it was all microplastics in the brain that causes it or something.

The other bullshit line you are fed is that there's always been this volume of autists (or adhd-ers) and that it's just that there's more ~awareness. A lot of crap if you ask me. There used to be maybe one in every class and they were like Chris Chan obvious. Maybe it is a spectrum but at a certain stage you have to say "that's not actually autism its just your personality".

And I don't wish to get into a retarded debate about this but it's arguable that trauma and attachment issues can heavily imitate both the tisms and the adhd.

My personal observations of those around me with the hunger for the Dx is that they are Failure to Launch Lite. You'll notice these people's priorities in life are things like Anime and Games. Or weed. That to me is just immaturity and a refusal to accept that there's more to life than just sitting in your bedroom masturbating all day. Not my problem if they are losers and I don't think society should be handing them the disability pass.

There's other people who have the slightest issue with staying on a task or being organised and immediately they want the ADHD Dx. It's fucking pathetic.

I think there are definitely munchies among them who are just trying to get that particular Special Snowflake card to add to their hand but I think the majority of them are just normal brain rotted people searching for answers or excuses.

 

[Otterly]

Every second person I speak to now has autism or adhd or is trying to get a Dx.

There’s also been a huge thing in the media in the uk about adult adhd, almost like a marketing campaign. Lots of celebs talking about their diagnosis. It felt rather inorganic

 

[athousandrustynails]

There’s also been a huge thing in the media in the uk about adult adhd, almost like a marketing campaign. Lots of celebs talking about their diagnosis. It felt rather inorganic

Oh really. I missed that part but I believe you given the ozempic hype lately. Wonder if this is the drug companies answer to marketing given that they can't really advertise their POMs in places with nationalised healthcare.

I also find it funny how those with "adhd" claim that they must have it because methylphenidate (or the like) really helps them concentrate. Everyone feels amazing and capable on stimulants. I do wonder about where that particular road is leading also...

 

[Special spoonie]

There’s also been a huge thing in the media in the uk about adult adhd, almost like a marketing campaign. Lots of celebs talking about their diagnosis. It felt rather inorganic

Since it has been a subject here, thanks to Jess. Z lister Helen Flanagan recently talked about going psychotic from ADHD meds Link (Archive)

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

I've noticed the same with OCD. It used to be the "omg I'm so OCD i lidurally can't relax unless my desk is organized." Now thanks to social media and whatnot there's more awareness of the actual many ways that disease can manifest and people are starting to, perhaps genuinely, think their very normal occasional intrusive thoughts and resultant anxiety are OCD. It's very normal for a new mom to have a pang of anxiety about the baby when she's cooking dinner and have to check to make sure the baby is still asleep in her bassinet. That's your brain making sure you are aware of the danger of negligence and sleep deprivation on your new tiny human being. It's not normal to feel so intensely anxious that you even thought the baby might get hurt that you stop using the oven and unplug it just in case then constantly have to check and make sure it's still unplugged because what if it isn't and you turn it on and the baby gets hurt - wait, start over because now you're anxious again because you just thought of the baby getting hurt.

(I also strongly believe that covid and quarantine induced an OCD-like disorder in a susceptible population, complete with catastrophic irrational anxiety over the thought of exposure and rituals to ward off the danger - checking local hospitalization stats, disinfecting groceries, hand washing, clinging to masks - and this is a big component of the long coof/zero coof culture. But those people who probably genuinely have mild OCD now and could benefit from exposure won't admit that's what it is.)

 

[glioblastoma multiforme]

Probably true for psychosis in general.

The way she described it sounds like stimulant psychosis to me, which is paranoia pushed to a million and the boundary between fantasy and reality flimsy at best. If she wrote that this was how she was at the end of a 6 day crack binge, I'd believe her descriptions but not that she'd kept a diary of it.

When I've been able to get any meaning from a word salad mumble from an untreated schizophrenic, its much more creative than just people outdoors trying to get you (but you'll hear stories like that in NA all the time). And like you said, jumps everywhere rather than obsessing over one imagined thing.

She did write one correct thing down though, they should take her chair cos she def can walk.

I also strongly believe that covid and quarantine induced an OCD-like disorder in a susceptible population

Oh yeah for sure, I know a T1D who didn't leave her house at all for the first six weeks of quarantine, like not at all. But, she didn't enforce quarantining with the people she shared it with. So while there was some basis in fact for her fear of being more susceptible due to her condition, her way of dealing with it was inconsistent and irrational.

I think there are a lot of people who had some latent anxiety turned into something crippling by quarantine.

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

Microplastics are endocrine disruptors, we're also seeing a massive rise in diagnoses of PCOS because of it, but one thing that can really be affected by it is sleep - and your mental health obviously goes to pieces without proper sleep / rest. So it could be a factor, in that you never get fully rested so you're just always slightly stressed and unable to cope with the demands of life. I do think it's got more of a role to play in the obesity crisis than is yet recognised. You also overeat when you're not getting enough sleep.

 

[Flaming_Barghast]

I know when I’m cusping on the edge of sanity and my wrists are in brief remission from crappin’ out, I too take pains to make sure I’m swapping out the markers I use so my tortured scribbles appear in reverse ROYGBIV format before peppering the pages with the appropriate craft stickers. & you’re damn sure I’m gonna be popping that collarbone out for every photo. Ladies, ammi right?

I mean this in the kindest way possible-
Something about your writing legit looks written by an AI and I can't unsee it.

 

[Endangered Species List]

There's no way I could be convinced that it's a real uptick in incidences unless you told me it was all microplastics in the brain that causes it or something.

Spoiler: Heh

It also doesn’t help that the DSM-5 changed some of the diagnostic criteria + consolidated multiple diagnoses into a single spectrum disorder.

1. Four previously separate categories of autism consolidated into one umbrella diagnosis of “autism spectrum disorder.”
The previous categories were:

• Autistic disorder
• Asperger syndrome
• Childhood disintegrative disorder
• Pervasive developmental disorder-not otherwise specified (PDD-NOS)

2. Consolidation of three previous categories of autism symptoms

• Social impairment
• Language/communication impairment and
• Repetitive/restricted behaviors

into two categories of symptoms

• Persistent deficits in social communication/interaction and
• Restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior

3. The addition of sensory issues as a symptom under the restricted/repetitive behavior category. This includes hyper- or hypo-reactivity to stimuli (lights, sounds, tastes, touch, etc.) or unusual interests in stimuli (staring at lights, spinning objects, etc.) (cont.)

The DSM-5 states, “Individuals with a well-established DSM-IV diagnoses of autistic disorder, Asperger’s disorder or pervasive developmental disorder not otherwise specified should be given the diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder.”

So now people with PDD-NOS (Autism Lite™) or even people who wouldn’t have gotten any diagnosis at all if they hadn’t learned how to “unmask” (aka play up their subclinical symptoms until they lie their way to a dx) are sharing a diagnosis with the genuinely retarded autists.

Spoiler: The Level System

That’s where the whole “support” level thing they introduced comes into play, with level 1 meaning basically Aspergers and level 3 meaning will-probably-need-a-caretaker-for-life. But since a whole bunch of super high functioning people who have never had issues with autism but learn about it through tiktok are coming through and begging for diagnoses (or just self-dxing lol), now the actual level 1 autistics are feeling like they’re more retarded then they really are because the the level 1 label has been overwhelmed by people who don’t really struggle with autism at all.
This leads to level 1 people claiming to be level 2, level 2 claiming to be level 3, and the level 3 people (the ones who need to most help and advocacy) have kinda just been shoved off to the side. Tiktok girlies HATE the idea of sharing the same diagnosis as someone who can’t wipe their own ass, but at the same time a lot of them also hate the level system because being level 1 means that they aren’t special enough to get crazy accommodations/excuses to make up for their failure to launch and undiagnosed BPD symptoms.

Spoiler: Autism Civil War

Seriously, go check out r/autism and compare how many posts are people just overpathologizing subclinical symptoms vs how many posts are written about actual autistic struggles. Or compare it to one of the subreddits (like r/spicyautism) meant for level 2/3s or r/autisticpeeps (where self-dyers are shunned) because they don’t feel welcome in the main autism subreddits, there’s usually a big difference between what actual autistic people are posting about and what these tiktok girls post about.

Also, one of the doctors who helped with widening the diagnosis back in the DSM-4 says he regrets it lol

Spoiler: Article highlights

According to a Rutgers study published earlier this year, autism rates in the US have increased some 500% over the past 16 years.
And “profound autism” cases — those who are likely to need around-the clock care for the rest of their lives — now make up one in four diagnoses, according to a recent paper published by researchers at the CDC.

But is the rise in autism really the result of better screening, or are we over-diagnosing regular behavior?

Dr. Allen Frances told The Post that he is “very sorry for helping to lower the diagnosis bar.”

In the early 1990s, Frances spearheaded the task force that, in his own words, “loosened the definition of autism” for the DSM-4, the so-called bible of psychiatry.Now, Frances said, he fears his work “contributed to the creation of diagnostic fads that resulted in the massive over-diagnosis of autistic disorders in children and adults.

“Careful field testing suggested the new definition would just triple the rate,” he said of the research for DSM-4. “Instead it quickly multiplied almost 100 fold. More clinicians began labeling both normal diversity and a variety of other psychological problems as autistic.”

Dr. Laurent Mottron, a psychiatrist who has spent 42 years studying autism, told The Post, “Looser definitions and blind confidence in intrinsically over-inclusive [definitions] have directly contributed to the growing problem.”
Compared to the DSMs of yesteryear, Mottron said, today’s version — DSM-5, released in 2013 — is full of “vague and trivial definitions and ambiguous language that ensures more people fall into various, abnormal categories. ”Moreover, he added, “It associates autism, which now exists on a spectrum, with a reduction of social interest, which can result from an indefinite number of psychological and societal issues.”

Frances echoed the criticism: “The DSM-5 loosened the diagnosis of autism even more by introducing the concept of autistic spectrum, thus further obscuring the boundary between mental disorder and normal diversity.”

DSM-5 “worsened everything by melting three conditions” — autism, Pervasive Developmental Disorder-Not Otherwise Specified (PDD-NOS) diagnosis and the Asperger diagnosis — “together and by de-specifying the autism diagnosis even more,” Mottron said.

“Ironically,” added Mottron, “although the DSM-5 initially devised to make the diagnosis more specific, it actually had the reverse effect.”

[…] Mottron said, the condition is being diagnosed at a rate that’s simply not consistent with reality. Frances agrees.

“Although people often benefit from an accurate diagnosis of autism, an inaccurate diagnosis can cause harmful stigma, hopelessness, reduced expectations, and misdirected treatment,” Frances said. “Because the diagnosis of autism is so consequential and so frequently carelessly done, parents and adult patients should always get a second opinion whenever possible.” (link)

I think the DSM-5-TR revisions have tried to correct some of the errors made with the diagnostic criteria, but idk how many clinicians actually use it, and I feel like the average person isn’t even aware it exists.

But I’ll stop here for now, since I’ve ‘sperged way too much about the ‘spergs already lol

 

[Nothin' But A G Tube]

One of my favorite recent posts on r/autism was about how belts are uncomfortable and constricting and sweatpants are better than jeans. Is finding sweatpants comfortable now a symptom of autism?

 

[Online Fossil]

Autism awareness acceptance day has been making me MATI this week. 90% of everything I’m seeing this year is high-functioning “advocates” self-diagnosed as adults yelling about people using the puzzle piece symbol, complaining about parents of autistic kids and comics about how autism is just a difference and if the dirty neurotypicals just accepted us there would be no problems. I wish all the tiktok self-diagnosis girls who honestly believe that had to spend time with severely autistic people with intellectual disabilities who can’t feed or toilet themselves. No amount of bitching about bad representation on TV shows is going to make those people need less support and magically able to function independently.

I wish weirdos would just go back to calling themselves nerds instead of thinking they need a diagnosis or identity to explain themselves.