Nicholas J. Fuentes vs Destiny - Catboy Pürrer express his frustrations with his Catboyfriend DesTINY

[BelUwUga]

What do you get when you're so cucked a cuckold cucks you? A Matryoshkuck!

 

[Tard Whisperer]

Friday on Nick's stream, the deplatforming wars continue. Nick dedicates half his show to watching videos edited by groypers accusing Destiny of lying and trying to get Sneako to stop talking to Nick, Nick thinks Destiny is trying to back off from talking with him. @Reynolds recapped:

Live show tonight begins around 29:20 on the counter, 34:00 he is still claiming he didn't flag Mr. Girl, a chatter chimes in (fumbling to upload this, hold on):

1:31:00 he is covering the MrGirl drama after covering the UKR-RUS war and shortages.
1:33:10 "Where is the evidence [MrGirl's] channel got mass flagged to begin with?"
1:35:00 Nick again distances himself from BigTech, Woozuh chimes in (another upload, not my best luck):

He's probably not gonna be debating Destiny for a while. Sneako is probably out too, that lasted 6 weeks.
1:51:10 He's reacting to a clip of Destiny on race and IQ, probably aping Steve's old tactics to pull people into debating him.
By 2:20:00 The chat decides to start flagging Destiny, which may be coordinated or they could be very stupid, or both.

By 2:32:00 chat walks back but BigTech chimes in:

2:39:00 Nick claims he wasn't invited to the Destiny stream with Brittany, BigTech, and Beardson, but was told to message Brittany if he wanted on.

Saturday: Destiny started watching this on stream, Nick called in to do damage control and absolutely embarrassed himself, sperging out, emotional and defensive and barely able to form arguments

https://files.catbox.moe/rkxf0h.mp3
it's about the first hour that's pretty entertaining, if you listen to any of this listen starting a bit before 40 minutes, that's around when Nick is most escalated and Destiny mutes him and makes him take a 15 second break for deep breathing.

I enjoyed chat psychoanalyzing Nick and making fun of him throughout





Destiny contradicts himself multiple times, they are both bad faith liars trying to out-manipulate one another, yet Nick manages to make himself look much worse. they absolutely deserve each others' 'friendship'.

Nick continues groveling afterwards, desperate to hold on to tiny's platform:


then today we have a special guest appearance in the saga:

link + archive

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Destiny accuses Lucas of photoshopping this to make him smile at Nick slightly more than he actually was. the pic was a thumbnail from a clip channel

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZtDKD0pFpPclXA7ZAti90w/videos

 

[The Sh]

So since Ralph is sperging to get RPGaming banned is Nick gonna say anything about the deplatforming or does that only apply when its a pedo destiny friend?

 

[HeyU]

Sorry, I’m not sure how to embed. But this is from the other day:

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And then Destiny’s response:

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I think Destiny likes Nick, I do. His issue with Nick is he keep accusing him of being bad faith, instead of just hearing what he’s saying. Nick has this very conspiracy-theory mind. To me, it’s very obvious what happened: Destiny is friends with MrGirl. When MrGirl got banned (now both channels, thanks to BigTech’s call to mass flag both) after talking to Destiny about his issue with the way he was “sanitizing” Nick Fuentes, Destiny was put in an awkward position and felt like he had to temporarily cool it with Nick out of loyalty to MrGirl. Destiny even told him as much, which is understandable (even though I personally find MrGirl insufferable and creepy). Destiny told him as much, that he doesn’t like the deplatforming thing.
But Nick has used the fact that Destiny reported Keffals to run with the narrative of Destiny being bad faith and a weasel and blah blah blah, when that’s not it! Yes, Destiny reported Keffals but he’s not friends with Keffals and doesnt run in any circles with her. Overall, Destiny is against deplatforming and he doesn’t want it to be a thing in his and Nick’s collabs, he wants there to be boundaries and respect for each other’s livelihoods, is I think what he means. But Nick doesn’t want to hear that, hed rather believe Destiny is bad faith and looking for a reason to disengage because Nick would rather just believe he’s perfect, his community is perfect and Destiny is bad faith and wrong, blah blah blah. And that’s the problem Destiny is having, that Nick isn’t hearing him. Nick lives in his own world and he’s surrounded by yes-men who will just nod and agree with everything he says, he has no one to push back and explain the obvious.

I hope they eventually work it out, tho, I like watching them together, their dynamic is entertaining to me, their personalities mesh in a way that makes them fun to watch.

Nick is like the Allen Iverson of Christian nationalism, naziism, race realism, fringe-right, IDC, whatever people wanna call it)

 

[CatboyCumDump]

Destiny is doing a stream right now about a big document he wrote up about Keffals and all the lies he has told about Destiny. As part of this Fuentes i brought up and Destiny pushes back that they are friends and points out Keffals is using groyper propaganda to push the narrative they are best friends. I wonder if Ralph has been passing her these AF/Destiny memes...

edit: Nick was going to stream snipe the debate and got jebaited by Destiny. Nick begins getting butthurt around half way into the clip and then goes on to mention that he just got out of the shower and is naked. Then he goes on to stream snipe Keith Woods who he calls his "best friend", so I guess that shows us who Nick is going to be trying to court next.

 

[BelUwUga]

Destiny is doing a stream right now about a big document he wrote up about Keffals and all the lies he has told about Destiny. As part of this Fuentes i brought up and Destiny pushes back that they are friends and points out Keffals is using groyper propaganda to push the narrative they are best friends. I wonder if Ralph has been passing her these AF/Destiny memes...
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edit: Nick was going to stream snipe the debate and got jebaited by Destiny. Nick begins getting butthurt around half way into the clip and then goes on to mention that he just got out of the shower and is naked. Then he goes on to stream snipe Keith Woods who he calls his "best friend", so I guess that shows us who Nick is going to be trying to court next. (I'm trying to upload the clip, it's being a bitch)

Just beautiful that Destiny saw the photoshop! I would give anything to know what Melina was thinking as she was making this face:

It is the exact look I imagine female Kiwis make when reading about Nicole and AF.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

Sorry, I’m not sure how to embed. But this is from the other day:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

youtu.be

And then Destiny’s response:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

youtu.be

I think Destiny likes Nick, I do. His issue with Nick is he keep accusing him of being bad faith, instead of just hearing what he’s saying. Nick has this very conspiracy-theory mind. To me, it’s very obvious what happened: Destiny is friends with MrGirl. When MrGirl got banned (now both channels, thanks to BigTech’s call to mass flag both) after talking to Destiny about his issue with the way he was “sanitizing” Nick Fuentes, Destiny was put in an awkward position and felt like he had to temporarily cool it with Nick out of loyalty to MrGirl. Destiny even told him as much, which is understandable (even though I personally find MrGirl insufferable and creepy). Destiny told him as much, that he doesn’t like the deplatforming thing.
But Nick has used the fact that Destiny reported Keffals to run with the narrative of Destiny being bad faith and a weasel and blah blah blah, when that’s not it! Yes, Destiny reported Keffals but he’s not friends with Keffals and doesnt run in any circles with her. Overall, Destiny is against deplatforming and he doesn’t want it to be a thing in his and Nick’s collabs, he wants there to be boundaries and respect for each other’s livelihoods, is I think what he means. But Nick doesn’t want to hear that, hed rather believe Destiny is bad faith and looking for a reason to disengage because Nick would rather just believe he’s perfect, his community is perfect and Destiny is bad faith and wrong, blah blah blah. And that’s the problem Destiny is having, that Nick isn’t hearing him. Nick lives in his own world and he’s surrounded by yes-men who will just nod and agree with everything he says, he has no one to push back and explain the obvious.

I hope they eventually work it out, tho, I like watching them together, their dynamic is entertaining to me, their personalities mesh in a way that makes them fun to watch.

Nick is like the Allen Iverson of Christian nationalism, naziism, race realism, fringe-right, IDC, whatever people wanna call it)

I take it you're a Destiny fan? Hate to break it to you but they're both bad faith and dishonest.

Nick portrays himself as pro free speech but he believes in censoring ideas and platforming his enemies. He is a lier. Likewise Cozy isn't a free speech platform. Jaden's account was terminated and Bald Tech is a key member of Nick's movement so he represents AF. Nick loves to steal the glory of other people but as soon as they're unoptical, he throws them under the bus.

Destiny claimed to be anti deplatforming but he reported Keffals. Nick is right that Destiny is a hypocrite. Notice how Destiny is using his classic obfuscation tactic of talking really fast and really loud to, well, obfuscate. He made-up bullshit like flagging was mass flagging because he doesn't want to take responsibility for his actions and admit that he supports deplatofrming too. Also I found it ironic that Destiny said he believes racial slurs are bad and warrant being banned because he broke his friendship with Trihex after he said he thought he should be allowed to say the n word. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNUlfjzkVis

 

[HeyU]

I feel you. I am a fan of anyone whose entertaining, honestly, but also willing to laugh at them all lol. No one is perfect and when it comes to deplatforming, I can see how people who’ve been deplatformed would have complex views about maybe on 1 end not believing in it, but wanting to do it to people who they feel have in the past tried to deplatform them.
I wish all calls to deplatform people would stop. I am ok with anyone having a platform and pretty much being able to say and do whatever they want on stream (minus something really sick, like CP or something else weird like that) but I’m also realistic and know that’s not the world these streamers operate in today and know that they know that, too. Nowadays, we live in a world where everybody tries to micromanage everybody….

I take it you're a Destiny fan? Hate to break it to you but they're both bad faith and dishonest.

Nick portrays himself as pro free speech but he believes in censoring ideas and platforming his enemies. He is a lier. Likewise Cozy isn't a free speech platform. Jaden's account was terminated and Bald Tech is a key member of Nick's movement so he represents AF. Nick loves to steal the glory of other people but as soon as they're unoptical, he throws them under the bus.

Destiny claimed to be anti deplatforming but he reported Keffals. Nick is right that Destiny is a hypocrite. Notice how Destiny is using his classic obfuscation tactic of talking really fast and really loud to, well, obfuscate. He made-up bullshit like flagging was mass flagging because he doesn't want to take responsibility for his actions and admit that he supports deplatofrming too. Also I found it ironic that Destiny said he believes racial slurs are bad and warrant being banned because he broke his friendship with Trihex after he said he thought he should be allowed to say the n word. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNUlfjzkVis

 

[BoxerShorts47]

I can see how people who’ve been deplatformed would have complex views about maybe on 1 end not believing in it, but wanting to do it to people who they feel have in the past tried to deplatform them.

So you're a Destiny fan? "Complex" is one of Destiny's favorite buzz words, along with "nuanced."

Let me tell you a secret. Destiny is a midwit and the best example of brainlet. He portrays himself as intelligent and people who are IQ 115 view him as a genius but in reality he's IQ 130. He is smart enough to understand the issues like deplatforming but he isn't smart enough to resolve the issue. His usage of words like "complex" and "nuance" are signs that his brain isn't smart enough to resolve issues and that's why he flip-flops on this issue.

I wish all calls to deplatform people would stop. I am ok with anyone having a platform and pretty much being able to say and do whatever they want on stream (minus something really sick, like CP or something else weird like that)

So you don't support free speech? You believe there is a limit. Your disagreement with other people is over that limit? You think it should be CP, the left thinks it should be transphobia and homophobia and racism and sexism, etc.

 

[HeyU]

So you're a Destiny fan? "Complex" is one of Destiny's favorite buzz words, along with "nuanced."

Let me tell you a secret. Destiny is a midwit and the best example of brainlet. He portrays himself as intelligent and people who are IQ 115 view him as a genius but in reality he's IQ 130. He is smart enough to understand the issues like deplatforming but he isn't smart enough to resolve the issue. His usage of words like "complex" and "nuance" are signs that his brain isn't smart enough to resolve issues and that's why he flip-flops on this issue.



So you don't support free speech? You believe there is a limit. Your disagreement with other people is over that limit? You think it should be CP, the left thinks it should be transphobia and homophobia and racism and sexism, etc.

I mean, complex is a word a lot of people use. It’s a word I’ve used for years. But yeah, I watch Destiny, along with other people, none of who are perfect. Like anyone else, there’s some imperfect people I find watchable and entertaining, others not so much. Not a MrGirl fan.

A person doesn’t need to be brilliant or perfect for me to watch them, just entertaining. Haha. Guess my standards aren’t as high as yours!

 

[BoxerShorts47]

I mean, complex is a word a lot of people use. It’s a word I’ve used for years. But yeah, I watch Destiny, along with other people, none of who are perfect. Like anyone else, there’s some imperfect people I find watchable and entertaining, others not so much. Not a MrGirl fan.

A person doesn’t need to be brilliant or perfect for me to watch them, just entertaining. Haha. Guess my standards aren’t as high as yours!

People use complex and nuanced when they're too low IQ to resolve the issue or when they they refuse to admit the resolution because they don't want to accept it.

With regards to Free Speech and deplatforming, obviously most people have a limit. Even most free speech loving libertarians will ban direct incitement to violence. So when people say, "I support free speech" or "I don't support deplatforming.," really they mean, "I don't believe this content warrants being deplatformed or silenced." I think this issue is one of the best examples that morality isn't universal. "Treat others how you want to be treated" is not true. Most people don't want to be deplatformed but most people do support deplatforming when someone else crosses the line.

Look at Mr Girl. When he was promoting pedophilia, he said that even Nazis deserved sympathy or something like that. Then when Destiny started platforming Nick Fuentes, Mr Girl attacked Destiny for platforming Nick Fuentes. His channel was shutdown so I don't have the time stamp but in the struggle session with Destiny, he realized that he was advocating deplatforming and had to stop himself and say, "I'm not advocating deplatforming." You could see that he realized didn't actually support free speech but he couldn't admit it.

So what is the resolution? Well the answer is pretty simple. You must justify your speech. If you're Nick Fuentes then you must convince people that ntisemitism is good. If you're Destiny then you must convince people that saying nigger is okay. If you're MrGirl then you must convince people that pedophila is good. If you fail to do so then you'll be excommunicated from society. This is reality. There has never been free speech and there never will be free speech. All speech must be justified.

Obviously Destiny is too stupid to realize this so that's why he flip flops on the issue and why he commits hypocrisy by deplatforming his enemies and why his strategy of a based radical centrist coalition against deplatforming is doomed to fail.

 

[Meiwaku]

I'm not sure how I want this to go because I love his one sided affection for Destiny but I also love his misery.

 

[Climaxing Sunset]

I'm not sure how I want this to go because I love his one sided affection for Destiny but I also love his misery.

I wonder what Fuentes must think knowing that Chantel Brittany allegedly fucked Destiny before Nick could even get a simple kiss from destiny

 

[HeyU]

People use complex and nuanced when they're too low IQ to resolve the issue or when they they refuse to admit the resolution because they don't want to accept it.

With regards to Free Speech and deplatforming, obviously most people have a limit. Even most free speech loving libertarians will ban direct incitement to violence. So when people say, "I support free speech" or "I don't support deplatforming.," really they mean, "I don't believe this content warrants being deplatformed or silenced." I think this issue is one of the best examples that morality isn't universal. "Treat others how you want to be treated" is not true. Most people don't want to be deplatformed but most people do support deplatforming when someone else crosses the line.

Look at Mr Girl. When he was promoting pedophilia, he said that even Nazis deserved sympathy or something like that. Then when Destiny started platforming Nick Fuentes, Mr Girl attacked Destiny for platforming Nick Fuentes. His channel was shutdown so I don't have the time stamp but in the struggle session with Destiny, he realized that he was advocating deplatforming and had to stop himself and say, "I'm not advocating deplatforming." You could see that he realized didn't actually support free speech but he couldn't admit it.

So what is the resolution? Well the answer is pretty simple. You must justify your speech. If you're Nick Fuentes then you must convince people that ntisemitism is good. If you're Destiny then you must convince people that saying nigger is okay. If you're MrGirl then you must convince people that pedophila is good. If you fail to do so then you'll be excommunicated from society. This is reality. There has never been free speech and there never will be free speech. All speech must be justified.

Obviously Destiny is too stupid to realize this so that's why he flip flops on the issue and why he commits hypocrisy by deplatforming his enemies and why his strategy of a based radical centrist coalition against deplatforming is doomed to fail.

I hear what you’re saying. I guess, for me, that line is just very very far and only the sickest of people would cross it (CP). I absolutely don’t believe in deplatforming anybody for their views or the way they deliver/present their views. Ever. Under any circumstance, including MrGirl (no matter how insufferable I find him to be, I just don’t watch him). I think it’s a slippery slope. Who are we to say what views are “harmful” or whatever? One could argue every view is harmful to someone out there, somewhere. But I do believe everyone deserves a chance to be heard by those who want to hear from them. That’s me. To be honest, up until about 6-7 years ago, I feel like most Americans generally held that view, more or less, because up until recently, I think most Americans strongly valued the right to freedom of speech. I wish that was still the case, then people wouldn’t have to live in this constant fear of being deplatformed. To me, a stifling environment where everyone is constantly trying to micromanage everyone else and everyone walks on eggshells is far more toxic and harmful than an environment where people feel comfortable speaking freely.
I hope one day we move away from this and go back to how things were before, pre ad-pocalypse, pre-cancel-culture (yes, I know cancel culture has always existed, but it used to be on a much smaller scale and happened a lot less frequently, it wasn’t this looming threat that everyone fears like it is today).
That’s my take, anyway. At the end of the day, I like to be entertained and yes, there may be some views or personalities I don’t care for or that offend me, but I’d never want to ruin it for those who enjoy it just because I am offended. I find that so self-righteous. The world doesn’t revolve around me and I’d never expect it to…but I guess most people just aren’t that way anymore.

I wonder what Fuentes must think knowing that Chantel Brittany allegedly fucked Destiny before Nick could even get a simple kiss from destiny

Damn, Destiny gets around lol. Wait, how do we know this again? Did Destiny say it or did PP say it? Or did somebody else say it?

 

[Climaxing Sunset]

Damn, Destiny gets around lol. Wait, how do we know this again? Did Destiny say it or did PP say it? Or did somebody else say it?

Brittany’s former stream partner exposed her for being a massive whore and trying to solicit sex from Destiny. That’s his words and what he claims

 

[BoxerShorts47]

I hear what you’re saying. I guess, for me, that line is just very very far and only the sickest of people would cross it (CP). I absolutely don’t believe in deplatforming anybody for their views or the way they deliver/present their views. Ever. Under any circumstance, including MrGirl (no matter how insufferable I find him to be, I just don’t watch him). I think it’s a slippery slope.

You just said that you do believe in deplatforming really sick people. You're doing mental gymnastics and compartmentalization. Leftists think racism (aka nationalism) and sexism (aka 2 gender norms or cisgendered) is really sick and deserves deplatforming.

Who are we to say what views are “harmful” or whatever? One could argue every view is harmful to someone out there, somewhere.

People argue and eventually a consensus is reached and society creates a law or norm to reflect the consensus. This is how morality works and how societies function.

Yes, if you lose then you're fucked. That's the real world. Unalienable rights is wishful thinking. It's just as crazy as every other theoretical framework like communism.

But I do believe everyone deserves a chance to be heard by those who want to hear from them.

Including people who promote child propaganda or direct incitement to violence?

That’s me. To be honest, up until about 6-7 years ago, I feel like most Americans generally held that view, more or less, because up until recently, I think most Americans strongly valued the right to freedom of speech.

No, people got fired from their jobs for racism and sexism 6+ years ago. Chappelle's Show was funny because a black man was saying what White people think and White people couldn't say that without getting fired from their job's. Berry Goldwater said the Civil Rights Act would infringe upon free speech and the normies didn't listen to him and they accepted censorship and they called it "political correctness." People were simply brainwashed into supporting free speech because they were taught they were sinners for not loving it and were told that was made America great but it was all propaganda and it didn't reflect the actions of people.

I wish that was still the case, then people wouldn’t have to live in this constant fear of being deplatformed. To me, a stifling environment where everyone is constantly trying to micromanage everyone else and everyone walks on eggshells is far more toxic and harmful than an environment where people feel comfortable speaking freely.

Again, you conveniently exclude people who promote CP from your analysis so you can claim that you don't want to micromanage people. So this entire line of reasoning is BS. In truth you simply want to be able to do as you please without consequence simultaneously you believe that other people who cross the line, e.g. CP, deserve to be punished.

I hope one day we move away from this and go back to how things were before, pre ad-pocalypse, pre-cancel-culture (yes, I know cancel culture has always existed, but it used to be on a much smaller scale and happened a lot less frequently, it wasn’t this looming threat that everyone fears like it is today).

We're never going back. People in the 1920s couldn't go back to the 1890s and people in the 2020s can't go back to the 1990s. Your beliefs are outdated.

That’s my take, anyway. At the end of the day, I like to be entertained and yes, there may be some views or personalities I don’t care for or that offend me, but I’d never want to ruin it for those who enjoy it just because I am offended.

Except CP.

I find that so self-righteous. The world doesn’t revolve around me and I’d never expect it to…but I guess most people just aren’t that way anymore.

This is bullshit. All societies have rules. All societies have punishment for wrongdoing. It should be obvious that your beliefs don't reflect reality. Wake up!

 

[HeyU]

You just said that you do believe in deplatforming really sick people. You're doing mental gymnastics and compartmentalization. Leftists think racism (aka nationalism) and sexism (aka 2 gender norms or cisgendered) is really sick and deserves deplatforming.


People argue and eventually a consensus is reached and society creates a law or norm to reflect the consensus. This is how morality works and how societies function.

Yes, if you lose then you're fucked. That's the real world. Unalienable rights is wishful thinking. It's just as crazy as every other theoretical framework like communism.


Including people who promote child propaganda or direct incitement to violence?


No, people got fired from their jobs for racism and sexism 6+ years ago. Chappelle's Show was funny because a black man was saying what White people think and White people couldn't say that without getting fired from their job's. Berry Goldwater said the Civil Rights Act would infringe upon free speech and the normies didn't listen to him and they accepted censorship and they called it "political correctness." People were simply brainwashed into supporting free speech because they were taught they were sinners for not loving it and were told that was made America great but it was all propaganda and it didn't reflect the actions of people.


Again, you conveniently exclude people who promote CP from your analysis so you can claim that you don't want to micromanage people. So this entire line of reasoning is BS. In truth you simply want to be able to do as you please without consequence simultaneously you believe that other people who cross the line, e.g. CP, deserve to be punished.


We're never going back. People in the 1920s couldn't go back to the 1890s and people in the 2020s can't go back to the 1990s. Your beliefs are outdated.

Except CP.

This is bullshit. All societies have rules. All societies have punishment for wrongdoing. It should be obvious that your beliefs don't reflect reality. Wake up!

CP is illegal, since minors can’t consent. Having views on white nationalism and whatever else is not. Such views are legal to publish and express. CP is not since consent is an issue there.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

CP is illegal, since minors can’t consent. Having views on white nationalism and whatever else is not. Such views are legal to publish and express. CP is not since consent is an issue there.

You're just doing mental gymnastics to justify why what you like or tolerate should be legal or allowed.

Consent is just a social construct. It doesn't matter. It's a way to rationalize the outcome. All that matter is the outcome. All that matters is whether people like or dislike X. People can decide they want to ban holocaust denial or ban white nationalism or ban transgenderism or homosexuality or w/e. That's how societies work. All rules/laws are oppressive, totalitarian, authoritarian, etc.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

Brittany’s former stream partner exposed her for being a massive whore and trying to solicit sex from Destiny. That’s his words and what he claims

That woman wanting to fuck someone and someone actually doing that are two different things. She wants to sleep with any guy who's A) more popular B) has more money C) pays any attention to her D) ignores or degrades her or E) has a pulse and a penis (and the pulse bit is probably negotiable). It's not often you encounter someone who so fully embodies the dictionary definition of a bimbo.

The gnome might have got it in though, he gets around just because every other male at his level of fame is either a homo, a coward, or a child molester, and thus they all refuse to actually fuck grown women.

You're just doing mental gymnastics to justify why what you like or tolerate should be legal or allowed.

Consent is just a social construct. It doesn't matter. It's a way to rationalize the outcome. All that matter is the outcome. All that matters is whether people like or dislike X. People can decide they want to ban holocaust denial or ban white nationalism or ban transgenderism or homosexuality or w/e. That's how societies work. All rules/laws are oppressive, totalitarian, authoritarian, etc.

I actually agree with what you're saying boxy, reality in society is just popular opinion. The only thing that judges decision making is outcome, which is exactly why unfortunately in a society where people are completely protected from the negative outcomes of their actions reality can mean whatever they want it to mean, thus where we've found ourselves today.

That said idk how you've managed to wind up back in a conversation about age of consent. That's a little weird.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

I actually agree with what you're saying boxy, reality in society is just popular opinion. The only thing that judges decision making is outcome, which is exactly why unfortunately in a society where people are completely protected from the negative outcomes of their actions reality can mean whatever they want it to mean, thus where we've found ourselves today.

That said idk how you've managed to wind up back in a conversation about age of consent. That's a little weird.

Morality is just popular opinion. If people think white people having white neighborhoods and workplaces and nations is bad then anti-racism is the law of the land. If people think white people having white neighborhoods and workplaces and nations is good then nationalism aka racism is the law of the land. This applies to everything from women voting to gay marriage to transkids. Right and wrong, good and bad, morality is just group opinion. Always has been; always will be.