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Betonhaus said:
I think it means that the kernel version of bcachefs will have a feature freeze with no new pulls allowed again, and in time it will be removed from the kernel entirely in favour of an external repository like ZFS, where Kent can have full control over the release schedule for his filesystem without putting the kernel schedule at risk. AI summary below
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This is how I read it. They won't remove bcachefs for years to avoid breaking systems. If bcachefs matures as a filesystem I can see it becoming mainlined again. The separation before the divorce, if that ever even happens.

Also please don't post AI stuff like this in the thread. It neither counts as an opinion or factual statement. AI hallucinations cannot not be allowed on the forum unchecked. The organic nature of old style of Internet forums is a distinguishing trait compared to the rest of the Internet, and it must be preserved. This is not to say AI cannot ever be used on the forum, but this whole "hey grok, is this true?" bullshit needs to stop. LLMs are not oracles of truth, they have no conception of "truth". If you post it, you're signing off on it, so don't post it.
 
Creative Username said:
"here is my patchset so you can compile a kernel with my latest fixes" would be a reasonable solution but certain people are averse to finding and applying those
also in reality a lot of his concerns are sort of bullshit
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Since all his users compile the kernel themselves...

You mean he could have a kernel git repo with his filesystem, maybe call it "bcachefs-next" and once every 10 weeks when the merge window opens he sends a pull request to Linus to pull all his changes he accumulated since the last merge window.
Then, if he has a change he wants to add right now but it is not yet "merge window time" he can just push it to his "bcachefs-next" branch and lets the user download and test.
Then a few weeks later, when the next merge window opens, he sends all the changes to Linus.
This even has the extra benefit that when Linus merges it into upstream, the changes have already had some amount of testing by the users that build and test bcachefs-next for the last few weeks.

That could have worked. I wonder why no one does it like that?
Oh, wait, every other fucking filesystem does it like that. So why is it so hard for this particular autist to do it that way?
 
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Lunduke is a Zionist whose political views are diametrically opposed to everything Tucker stands for these days. If anything, they might agree with Tucker on many issues, such as his opposition to Trump, his mockery of Nick Fuentes for his political beliefs, racism, and his anti-interventionist, pro Palestinian views . But because of identity politics, their analysis of the world leads them to believe that everyone who is not politically correct or libertine is some sort of "Nazi." These people aren't nobodies in the open source world either. Petridis works for Gnome and Kuhn worked at FSF for 25 years. The people who work for these open source companies are so detached from reality, so, it's not a surprise they hire and protect pedophiles.
 
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Cuckoman said:
Since all his users compile the kernel themselves...
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having a patch set and having a special branch are about the same thing at the end of the day
especially since you can be sure that linus isn't going to bend over for his "rapid development cycle" and double sure that debian maintainers will never let this autism get into their impeccably frozen system distribution
Cuckoman said:
That could have worked. I wonder why no one does it like that?
Oh, wait, every fucking filesystem does it like that. So why is it so hard for this particular autist do do it that way?
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you don't understand, he could get a duplicate bug report for a build of the file system from 2 weeks ago!
which is a "problem" of the same type as "oh no, i got 5 different 7-figure job offers and i can't pick which one to accept!"
that is, be grateful you actually do get bug reports

Frederica Bernkastel said:
some sort of "Nazi."
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society needs to come to the common understanding that invoking godwin's law is not something that you necessarily need to do every 5 fucking minutes
Frederica Bernkastel said:
These people aren't nobodies in the open source world either. Petridis works for Gnome and Kuhn worked at FSF for 25 years.
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they probably are nobodies in reality though
i will bet 4096 kf sticker points that these idiots are never submitting patches, they're instead in some dipshit administration-type role that essentially burns donator money

also seeing the "It does alarm me how quickly folks are blocking me entirely" is funny. great job networking mainly with purity spiraling ideologues who constantly find members of their ranks to mass-block over any sign of doing a Bad Thing™! i would be sorry for you, in case my assumption--that you would be doing the exact same thing if the roles were reversed--didn't hold true
 
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Battlefield42 said:
Why doesn't he just provide a custom kernel for a distro instead?
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His current mode of operation is (or I guess was) just submit patches for his filesystem and someone else worries about the rest of the kernel. He'd have to take on MORE responsibility to maintain a side kernel and track mainline, and he already complains about all the labor he has. Additionally, whenever there would be a bug report, he'd have to triage it and figure out if it relates to bcachefs or is some other interaction with another subsystem (VFS, for example). The chance of him doing this is about zero.

"Success" for bcachefs looks like some other kind soul that is not Kent serving as the intermediary between Kent and Linus. Since there doesn't appear to be anyone on the planet that likes to work with Kent, I don't see this as happening.

Kent has taken some honestly impressive work (bcachefs) and flushed it down the toilet due to his extremely abrasive personality and total lack of a clue how to operate as part of a team.

Keep in mind that by this point in time, there are hundreds/thousands of people that have submitted patches without causing this amount of ruckus. Kent is an exemplary example of someone that is so insufferable he cannot contribute productively, despite his impressive technical skills. (although he could use a bit of work in reliability, submitting patches that don't compile is pretty embarassing).

If Kent would work 10% more slower and deliberate and actually follow the rules, the focus could be on his filesystem instead of his personality "quirks". Instead, he becomes yet another nerd that has installed a glass ceiling above himself and limited his own success.
 
Frederica Bernkastel said:
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Lunduke is a Zionist whose political views are diametrically opposed to everything Tucker stands for these days. If anything, they might agree with Tucker on many issues, such as his opposition to Trump, his mockery of Nick Fuentes for his political beliefs, racism, and his anti-interventionist, pro Palestinian views . But because of identity politics, their analysis of the world leads them to believe that everyone who is not politically correct or libertine is some sort of "Nazi." These people aren't nobodies in the open source world either. Petridis works for Gnome and Kuhn worked at FSF for 25 years. The people who work for these open source companies are so detached from reality, so, it's not a surprise they hire and protect pedophiles.
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Every single person in this thread is afraid to say the name Lunduke, including the man who is literally defending himself for appearing on Lunduke's show.
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His own father began to hate in the past year and Bradley still isn't reflecting
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Bradley admits that he went on Lunduke's show because no one else was willing to talk about the OSI's rigged election
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But also he apparently did it to get Lunduke fans to get other news. Hey, Bradley, why didn't you do an interview with the Register, who had already done an article covering the election and mentioned you as a candidate a month earlier? Why did the Register never cover the election rigging after that? Can you find me a single "non-fascist" tech news source, or even just one that isn't Lunduke, who was willing to talk about the fact that Microsoft encouraged employees to gender transition toddlers?
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Also, he denies that the interview was recent (March 22, 2025) and Lunduke has gotten much worse in his tranny genocide campaign since then. This video about the tranny pedophiles in Bazzite was in February.
 
volatile puar said:
Lunduke has gotten much worse in his tranny genocide campaign since then
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The day-to-day life of Mr. Lunduke feels really sad. I'd imagine he wakes up every day and cruises around for the latest overly progressive move in various distributions / programming languages / software project, then researches it and writes a script, makes a video, etc.

I have a small amount of tolerance for the type of insanity that can be found in OSS communities. Making that almost my WHOLE WAKING LIFE and coupling my job/career/net worth to it seems really frustrating and limiting.

Hypothetically, let's say every single distribution/company/project goes "unwoke" instantly tomorrow. What would Lunduke have to say? It seems the only thing he ever weighs in on is internal conflicts with projects or strange side quests that these projects do. As far as I can tell, he doesn't maintain any software himself or contribute anything other than his smarmy, whiny videos.

It's like he wanted to take part in OSS, but couldn't, so then made his whole life ridiculing those who are at least participating in a small way. In the example above, where there is a gaming distribution with some associated drama, at least we get a gaming distribution out of it. Take Lunduke and subtract the drama and that leaves you with... nothing?

Is there such a thing in lolcow-by-proxy? If you spend your whole waking life thinking about and making videos about them, at what point do you yourself turn into a joke?

If Lunduke handed me his whole channel and audience tomorrow, I would not want it.

I'd be curious how Lunduke explains what he does at a dinner party to a general audience.
 
Rancid Xylitol said:
Hypothetically, let's say every single distribution/company/project goes "unwoke" instantly tomorrow. What would Lunduke have to say? It seems the only thing he ever weighs in on is internal conflicts with projects or strange side quests that these projects do. As far as I can tell, he doesn't maintain any software himself or contribute anything other than his smarmy, whiny videos.
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might be pretty much no better than a typical coc crusader
Rancid Xylitol said:
Is there such a thing in lolcow-by-proxy? If you spend your whole waking life thinking about and making videos about them, at what point do you yourself turn into a joke?
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there is such a thing as a lolcow and perhaps mr lunduke is one
 
Rancid Xylitol said:
Hypothetically, let's say every single distribution/company/project goes "unwoke" instantly tomorrow. What would Lunduke have to say? It seems the only thing he ever weighs in on is internal conflicts with projects or strange side quests that these projects do. As far as I can tell, he doesn't maintain any software himself or contribute anything other than his smarmy, whiny videos.
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Not including his really old Linux Sucks videos, his most popular video which is not at all political is this one on Linux real time, which got 75k views, and his most popular non-Linux Sucks video was about Pokemon Go being spyware. Most of his videos wouldn't do this well, obviously, but if he just covered Linux news and it was rarely political, he would do about as well as Brodie Robertson. The thing limiting his reach is not his video topics, but his personality.
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It's like he wanted to take part in OSS, but couldn't, so then made his whole life ridiculing those who are at least participating in a small way. In the example above, where there is a gaming distribution with some associated drama, at least we get a gaming distribution out of it. Take Lunduke and subtract the drama and that leaves you with... nothing?
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Lunduke used to have actual jobs in Open Source, and he probably got ousted for his political views, but I'm just guessing about that. Maybe he just prefers to do journalism.
 
meager said:
I had to look up what the fuck “queermisia” means. Unsurprisingly it’s just a synonym for “queerphobia” but why do these niggas keep making up new words?
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To keep the upper hand against rational, sane people in their endless debates.

They never wanted acceptance and equality, they want control and authority.
 
I really like how LXQt is making a good suite of Qt applications.
>pcmanfm-qt
>lxqt-archiver
>pavucontrol-qt

These are great for anyone running a plain window manager. I felt great removing GTK (cringe) pavucontrol.
 
CrunkLord420 said:
GTK (cringe)
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gtk is ok in my view it's just gnome that is cringe
it's relatively lean, written in c (not c++) and is carefully designed to work incredibly well with ffi because gobject black magic
in years of gnome bullshit they've only really managed to fuck up the theming somewhat
 
If you are a freedom and minimal WM enjoyer, you always have dangling over your head that gtk might suddenly go insane with some nuDependency. That's a smaller danger with the qt toolkit and the environments it's often used in. I don't really follow OSS politics that closely and don't know who is involved in what (if I don't read about it here) but that always felt like a real danger for me.

I also think exclusion of ReiserFS was more of a non-technical decision than a technical one, no matter what was claimed and if bcachefs is ever removed, it'll be the same for that. Actual removals are incredibly rare. Case in point: I'm still using the kernel's fast filesystem support. If you don't know what that is, it's an Amiga filesystem introduced in '88 and with that pre-dating Linux. I use it to share files between my PC and an Amiga so I happen to know that it even still works. Granted, it's not something that's compiled even as a module by default these days. Removals really are incredibly rare.
 
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AmpleApricots said:
you always have dangling over your head that gtk might suddenly go insane with some nuDependency
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strangely enough all the core gnome technology seems to be rather stable and sane
even their special programming language, vala, is surprisingly sane. i don't even see language-specific package manager bullshit. it just compiles to c and implements a somewhat sane alternate universe version of c++
also they went from gtk3 to gtk4 without nuDependency cargo.toml #RIIR™ insanity so i have some hope for the gtk squad
 
Rancid Xylitol said:
The day-to-day life of Mr. Lunduke feels really sad. I'd imagine he wakes up every day and cruises around for the latest overly progressive move in various distributions / programming languages / software project, then researches it and writes a script, makes a video, etc.
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He is a grifting jew on youtube. He has found a nieche to grift.
That does not make him special, there are millions of grifters on youtube.

What does make him special though is how the crazies treat him with this hysteria, refusing to say his name, and consider him the second coming of Hitler.
While he really just have very pedestrian centre-right normie opinions on the internet.

That is the part I don't get. What did he do to make them so afraid and angry with him?
It makes no sense to me.
He is really just a grifting jew with very pedestrian centrist views, he is not hitler. Just fucking ignore him if you have to.
 
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