Over 500 ‘incels’ completed a survey. This is what researchers learned

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A study that looked at more than 500 members of the “incel” community suggests they are a diverse group that often struggles with mental health issues.

“Incels are often stereotyped in the media as young, white, right-wing men who are not in employment, education, or training,” lead author Andrew G. Thomas, a senior psychology lecturer at Swansea University in the U.K., said in a news release. “When we tested the accuracy of these stereotypes using primary data collection, we discovered misconceptions.”

In what they claim to be the largest incel community survey to date, the study showed that participants came from different backgrounds and had varied political beliefs.

“If we had to point to their most consistent characteristics, it would be incredibly poor mental health and their feelings of bitterness, frustration, and distain towards women – though even these show variation within the sample,” Thomas said.

‘An extremely hard to reach group’​

Led by researchers from Swansea University and the University of Texas at Austin, and published in the journal Archives of Sexual Behaviour, the study is based on an online questionnaire completed by 561 members of “the internet’s largest incel forum.” Incel is short for involuntary celibacy, and the controversial online subculture of men is united by their perceived inability to form romantic or sexual relationships.


“The community is an outlet for misogynistic hostility, and incels’ ideology includes the belief that most women are attracted to a small number of men, who monopolize sexual encounters with women,” the study explained. “Central to the incel belief system is the ‘black-pill’ philosophy that there is nothing they can do to improve their romantic prospects.”

A small, but growing number of violent attacks have also been attributed to self-described incels, including the 2018 Toronto van attack that killed 11 people.

“The community has been labeled as an emerging domestic terrorism concern by counterterrorism authorities in Canada, the U.S.A., and the U.K.,” the study noted. “Incels are considered an extremely hard to reach group who are cynical of the motives of academic researchers.”

‘Extraordinarily high rates of suicidal ideation’​

In terms of mental health, the researchers found that 37 per cent of participants reported daily suicidal thoughts, 48 per cent reported high levels of loneliness and 86 per cent reported experiencing bullying. Thirty per cent of participants also met the criteria for an autism assessment, compared with one per cent of the general population.

“The extraordinarily high rates of suicidal ideation in our sample were among the most alarming findings and demand urgent attention,” study co-author William Costello, a researcher in psychology at the University of Texas at Austin, said. “Likewise, the prevalence of autism traits was much higher than in the general population, pointing to the need for greater clinical attention to neurodiversity within this group.”

When it came to ethnic diversity, political orientation, socioeconomic background, employment, education and age, the participants were a varied group.

Just over half the respondents were white at 58 per cent while 42 per cent identified as people of colour. Many identified as middle class at 40.6 per cent, followed by lower-middle class at 27.1 per cent; 42.4 per cent were employed full-time and 16.4 per cent were in full-time education. The average age of participants was 26 and the oldest was 73. In terms of political orientation, on average, incels were slightly left of centre.

“Incels with right-wing leanings may be more predisposed to harmful attitudes and beliefs than those leaning left, as right-wing radical acts are generally more violent,” the study warned.

The study was conducted in collaboration with the U.K. government’s Commission for Countering Extremism. Anonymous participants came from the U.K. and U.S. and were paid UK£20 or C$37 for their responses.

“Our study is one of the first that takes a deep dive into a large sample of incels,” co-author Joe Whittaker, a senior criminology lecturer at Swansea University, said. “Our findings will help to inform policy and practice within the sphere of counter-extremism and help stakeholders to develop effective and appropriate responses.”

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I mean nobody can browse reddit for a significant length of time or read all the stories of leftwing influencers outed as sex pests and honestly claim that inceldom is a 'right wing' phenomenon. Who do they think they're fooling when they try to connect it to the right? Its really telling with how biased they are they are still forced to concede that incels lean left. Guessing if the survey was expanded and everybody was forced to be honest it would be even more lopsided in the left camp.
 
incels and autists share a lot of personality traits with people from abusive households and other associated trauma
no conventional advice or conventional psychiatric logic can ever apply to them, no study can understand them, and no conventional psychiatric treatment can work on them
they’re rape victims that rape themselves, with all the implications that come from that. i don’t pity them, but trying to treat or fix them while doggedly relying on a system that’s proven to have failed them should be a breach of medical ethics
 
incels and autists share a lot of personality traits with people from abusive households and other associated trauma
no conventional advice or conventional psychiatric logic can ever apply to them, no study can understand them, and no conventional psychiatric treatment can work on them
they’re rape victims that rape themselves, with all the implications that come from that. i don’t pity them, but trying to treat or fix them while doggedly relying on a system that’s proven to have failed them should be a breach of medical ethics
People say this, but man, I just don't see it. I've known too one too many incels with conventional upbringings and good parents.

Something else is going on, but it's not that.
 
People say this, but man, I just don't see it. I've known too one too many incels with conventional upbringings and good parents.

Something else is going on, but it's not that.
It's undiagnosed/high functioning autists failing to thrive, then becoming embittered because they're basically told to suck it up or eat shit anytime they complain. I'm sure there are non autists incels, but I think they're few and far between. Once you self identify as an incel it's basically over for you, you've ceeded all of your hope to a self disparaging image that will take over your personality.

Pardon the pun, but there's an entire spectrum of people normies would type as "incels" who are infact not. If you(as a man of course) complain on the internet about your dating struggles there is a high probability that you will be labeled an incel. Doesn't matter if you get dates, have sex, enter into relationships; your problems, your concerns, your qualms are just incel bullshit chud. An honest conversation cannot, and will not, be had about men's struggles.

Most men can suck it up and move on, but autists are obsessive, and when something bothers them, shockingly, they obsess about it. It should come as no surprise that when these autists are routinely shouted down, belittled, and mocked that they become more radicalized. Eventually a subset of them move off the main hubs of the web and into echo chambers where they become more bitter and angry.
 
I mean nobody can browse reddit for a significant length of time or read all the stories of leftwing influencers outed as sex pests and honestly claim that inceldom is a 'right wing' phenomenon. Who do they think they're fooling when they try to connect it to the right?
The left loves to loudly lament that Drumphler means we're living in a "post-truth" dystopia, but, as usual, they're projecting. They don't believe in reality or truth, only narrative supremacy. They come up with self-flattering stories they like, and they use all the power they have try to brute-force it into the public consciousness and browbeat anyone who dissents. They've been doing this since Black Jesus was in office, and they've forgotten how to do anything else. Very BDP-esque feminine dysfunction. Sad!

This "dangerous, right-wing incel menace" narrative is just an extension of the weird, anti-male tact the shitlibs have taken. It's like the problem of advertising: women spend more money on products, so, over time, advertisers will only target women and only address feminine concerns. Maybe it's because women are so reliably leftist, I don't know, but politicians now only seem interested in the neurotic, over-socalized concerns of stupid young women. Maybe that's directly related to advertising in some strange way I can only halfway sense, or maybe it's downstream of the government stepping in to, ahem, imperfectly supplant the role of the provider and protector for so many miserable ladies.

By the way, none of these same people will talk seriously about the threat of Islam even though Muzzies commit violent acts, and violent acts against women, constantly. No, they're only afraid of the scary incels who threateningly watch porn and don't approach them :jaceknife:

And let's not get it twisted: "reality by consensus" is very effective stuff with a target audience that wants to be seen expressing the politically correct opinions.
 
“Incels are often stereotyped in the media as young, white, right-wing men who are not in employment, education, or training,” lead author Andrew G. Thomas, a senior psychology lecturer at Swansea University in the U.K., said in a news release. “When we tested the accuracy of these stereotypes using primary data collection, we discovered misconceptions.”
Chief among said "misconceptions" (disinformation) being that they're right-wing. Liberals are the ones most often jobless and soyboys aren't exactly ladies' men.
 
Chief among said "misconceptions" (disinformation) being that they're right-wing. Liberals are the ones most often jobless and soyboys aren't exactly ladies' men.
There was a time not too long ago that the anti-vax crowd was characterized by crunchy granola moms. They were not the entire anti-vax crowd, but they were the face of it.

Then COVID happened.

I've pointed this out to left-leaning people I know on multiple occasions: YOUR people were the anti-vaxxers, so let's not fucking play on this shit.

Point being, that's just the practical example of a group of people with a negative image being attached to a "side" for political reasons.

I'm surprised half the people I know are still talking to me when I tell them to remove the mote from thine own eye before tut-tutting anyone else.

Meanwhile, regarding incels, one need only look at the people who are out there dating. It's a shitshow out there, and it's no wonder people have lost hope in finding true intimacy, not just sex. That's true for both men and women.
 
I wonder how many of these 500 incels are married? Get it? Because some people are in sexless marriages for years? You ever see Married with Children?

The definition of incel is the main problem, is it just people who self-identify as that, is it anyone who hasn't fucked in a certain period of time, is it anyone who expresses mysoginistic views on women?

Recently Anisa Jomha called Ethan Klein an "incel" and he responded that he's married/has kids/etc. but then later Ethan Klien called Elon Musk an incel, so both people are just using the term "incel" to mean someone they dislike/disagree with since Elon is many things but given his money I'm sure at minimum he can afford to fuck escorts.

Unless his dick really is busted, maybe Elon is an incel due to broken penis, this would explain him DMing women and asking them to let him artificially inseminate them which is weird, like why doesn't he want to fuck them he just wants a doctor to inject them with his semen? very weird.
 
Recently Anisa Jomha called Ethan Klein an "incel" and he responded that he's married/has kids/etc. but then later Ethan Klien called Elon Musk an incel, so both people are just using the term "incel" to mean someone they dislike/disagree with since Elon is many things but given his money I'm sure at minimum he can afford to fuck escorts.
It's just become a lazy insult for leftoids, they lob it around as brainlessly as they throw around Nazi. If they could just call people niggers and socially get away with it, they would.
 
I mean nobody can browse reddit for a significant length of time or read all the stories of leftwing influencers outed as sex pests and honestly claim that inceldom is a 'right wing' phenomenon. Who do they think they're fooling when they try to connect it to the right? Its really telling with how biased they are they are still forced to concede that incels lean left. Guessing if the survey was expanded and everybody was forced to be honest it would be even more lopsided in the left camp.
There was a subreddit called inceltears or something like that. You're typical community commentating on community subreddit, in this case it was incels.

There was a crazy amount of incels on that forum but since they subscribed to the "correct" ideology they wouldn't call themselves incels.
 
Reminder that filling up voluntarily surveys that will do nothing to improve your life, but will give intelligence agencies and law enforcement and government more data on how to prosecute/ban/oppress yourself or your group is retarded behavior.

Scientists, psychiatrists, "researchers", do not have your best interests at heart, they either want more funding or clout in their little field.
It's the same thing that going to a police station and openly talking to a detective without a lawyer present because you were asked to and not arrested or summoned officially.

Reminder how Null tried for years to explain to journoscum how our forum isn't nazi Germany sending trannies into gas chambers for years until he gave up on it and finally learned his lesson.
 
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