Questions for the female autists here - Sneed

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@ihavequestions That was a great post you cataloged and explained it very clear and concise. You are already aware of your strengths and weaknesses. It seems all you need is friends (no not on the kiwifarms) that understand you.
 
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Ladies, do you guys ever get hype fixated on a specific character so much for comfort that you start to embody their traits or am I just mega autistic and lonely?
I followed the Chris Voss course where he teaches how to do hostage negotiation. He said, and I think it can be accurate, that the truth can be violence. Like a punch in the face.

The reason why non autists are less honest is that we feel some of the pain we cause when we're being honest. Like when I was a teenager I asked a middle aged woman why she didn't have any children. I remember the pain in her face as she mumbled out an answer. We all can cause pain in people with our lack of social awareness. Non autists see the face, feel some semblance of the pain themselves and avoid creating the same situation in the future.
I have very real issues performing the former due to the latter. :)
There is an issue with the factory wiring (broken pathway or misfiring synapse) that prevents me from self-inserting into stories. For me, everything is observed reality. It’s probably why I struggle with the 'identify as' brigade. From an empirical standpoint, one does not identify as, one is.

In school I was unable to read fiction and digest (they even in wrote in bold, all caps "lacks imagination" :lol:) on the level of others. I could memorize passages and recite them back, but when asked about themes, symbolism, or deeper meanings I was lost. Classes based on memorization or calculations were no effort. English was my own personal hell. Five-page, single-spaced, mini-dissertations on Moby Dick, Catcher in the Rye, The Great Gatsby, To Kill a Mockingbird, and any other "required reading" made me want to unalive and not just in Minecraft. NGL most of my early papers were written by Mum or others. I’d memorize them, along with a list of potential questions someone might ask, and rehearse answers like a script. Mum also made sure teachers understood my 'special needs' (think PTA Karen). My closest to genuine understanding of fiction was Flowers for Algernon probably because he didn't want to be a tard and I didn't either. There’s a particular cruelty in being sentient of your defects. I envied the profoundly 'touched' who have no awareness.

It was (lol, is) almost impossible to organically think outside of self (lack empathy). I've learned NTs do not function like this and you will be viewed as a budding serial killer. "To understand social interaction you must understand how others think/feel" and that is exhausting especially when you don't care. You begin to understand that "the nail that sticks out gets hammered". So you engage in farce.

There are unwritten rules most humans adhere to. It's like they got together in secret and agreed on these very strange customs. For instance, the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, or Easter Bunny. NTs instinctively understand to nod and smile when kids talk about the imaginary or unreal. My 'tism would be on full display (a no-no) by correcting anyone on make believe including very young children. This caused unhappiness and "white lies are for comfort." I still don't understand. The idea of something that sneaks into my room and puts things under my pillow, breaks into my home and leaves 'gifts', or six foot tall rabbit terrorizes me. I need those things to NOT be real otherwise I would peel my skin off.☠️
I don't know if female autism is overdiagnosed or not, but the two friends I have who were diagnosed with it, it seems quite accurate. It's less noticable for a number of reasons. They are less people focused than non-autistic women, but still more so than even non-autistic moids.
Are you sure their friends, fren? :P
User Slideshow Bill (I wont at, but want to credit) posted the most succinct versions of the Phases of Autism I've ever seen.

Autism Condensed
Autism I: Mostly indistinguishable from normies aside from a few quirks, can live independently and can socialize but can get overwhelmed and will need the rare sperg out alone time.
Autism II: Slightly more "off" than A1, this is where the more stereotypical high functioning autists lie, isn't suited for the fast paced modern world, would have been perfectly fine in the pre-Industrial Revolution era,
Autism III: Is visibly mentally disabled, can live independently sometimes but will need a lot of support, this type is where special education starts.
Autism IV: Permanent toddler, will never be able to live independently.

The people who reside in I and II are experienced stealth agents and exceptional liars. Type I are able to shape shift (skinwalk) and maintain the deception longer than type II, but eventually it shows. I'm somewhere between type I and II and can report the 'friends' I have do the heavy lifting.

Not trying to cast aspersions, but from experience friendship with an autist isn't very balanced. My 'best friend' is an NT, who has tard wrangled me from a very young age. For example, she spent a holiday away with her dad one summer, I did not know her when she returned (face blindness). I then only talked about a very niche technical topic and did not bother to ask how she was, what she did away, etc.

My view of our friendship is she's my window into normalcy and she like most girls/women is extremely empathetic (either by societal grooming or inherent nature). When I have asked she will laugh and say it's because I love you. I've learned to shrug and say it back, but I don't really understand. Our 'circle of friends' are used to my tard tendencies, and will just nod and ignore my weirdness. It's strange they included me in all their stuff (showers/birthdays/parties/bar hopping/etc) over the years but I have never initiated/planned/suggested doing anything.

Both male and female autists tend to mask it, but the latter are far better at it.
I lean to agree on this. There’s a constant expectation for women/girls to be social. We're bombarded with “you should smile more,” “you’re so much prettier when you smile.” It's always be pleasant, kind, and approachable. I wont even go into societal lessons like "value is tied to your appearance", or "fuckability determines your worth". From a young age, via social conditioning sometimes gentle, sometimes with force we learn to interact with others. It’s typically women doing the instructing, and because they are (on average) more empathic/patient the constant explicit training works. Masking becomes second nature. I also think society infantilizes women making it is easier for us to blend.

It doesn’t seem to work the same for boys. At least where I’m from, boys are expected to grow into capital-M men. If they are found to not be masculine enough, they’re quickly sorted into the ‘fag’ or ‘tard’ category and exiled. Male figures guide them and fathers/coaches tend to be far less patient. They lose their temper, tap out, or lash out. There’s no real room for failure. Where women provide mostly gentle corrections, men are far more brutal. This is just based on my observations. Again this is just my observation from my small corner of the world. I can be and have been wrong before.

It is so you (girls) don't get killed.
Go away, You are fucking ugly -> I have a boyfriend
No, I don't want to go out with you tonight -> I am visiting my grandmother/friend/sister
I don't want to give you my name/instagram/whatever -> I don't use that app
I don't want a drink/food from you -> I'm full
No, I don't need you to drive me home -> A friend is picking me up
You are fucking creepy -> I have to go feed cats

You never know with what kind of psycho you are dealing and that's why.
The gift of fear. Funny that NT AND autistic girls understand this.

That was a great post you cataloged and explained it very clear and concise. You are already aware of your strengths and weaknesses. It seems all you need is friends (no not on the kiwifarms) that understand you.
I come to the farms because I don’t have to hide my ’tism. Here, it roams freely. It’s my mental sperg sanctuary. You can say things here you cannot in 'polite conversation'. It’s a shame the rest of the world isn’t more like this. Mankind would be better off if people were a lot more honest.

Apologies for the long screed. Thread tax:

Some questions:

1. Is anyone religious and do you truly believe or do you just want to believe?

2. Do you care about/for animals?

3. Did anyone watch Love on the Spectrum? In particular Dani. She is really fixated on physical intimacy. Almost creepily so. I've never met another autistic girl who was so overtly sexual. I'm not saying they don't exist, and she clearly has puzzle piece traits like hyper-fixation and inflexibility. Any thoughts on her/the show?

Note: I am not shitting on her. I've asked other autists and this offends, I guess NSW. It's just far out of my experience.
 
I come to the farms because I don’t have to hide my ’tism. Here, it roams freely. It’s my mental sperg sanctuary. You can say things here you cannot in 'polite conversation'. It’s a shame the rest of the world isn’t more like this. Mankind would be better off if people were a lot more honest.

Apologies for the long screed. Thread tax:

Some questions:

1. Is anyone religious and do you truly believe or do you just want to believe?

2. Do you care about/for animals?

3. Did anyone watch Love on the Spectrum?

Note: I am not shitting on her. I've asked other autists and this offends, I guess NSW. It's just far out of my experience.
My intent was not to offend I was trying (and failing) to compliment you in hopes to ease your valid concerns towards posting something very personal on a forum where such acts are not recommend. You are very introspective which is a skill many people lack. I was just trying to tell you how well written your post is and how informative it was.

Now to answer your questions

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No but I do have Christian friends that have tried to get me to go to church. I am Agnostic, but I can see the good that the books such as the bible or the book of the dead try to pass on. I have been to church with them as I try to involve myself in my friends and families interest as I am not the best at emotion stuff so I try to make up for it in other ways. I lack the faith that my friends have but I do not disparage their beliefs as I know that only do it because they care about me. They were never preachy if you are curious they are just good god fearing people who always have an outstretched hand if I ever should change my mind.

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I am allergic to dogs & cats so i've never had a pet. Though I do find animals to be fascinating as well as adorable and I like animals videos just as much as anyone else.

Children played a bigger part of my life as I looked after younger family members as soon as I got old enough to do so. I have always gotten along with children and when I was about enter post secondary education I wanted to go into teaching. Once I informed my teachers that I wanted to go into teaching they explained their job and how the school system worked in detail. Upon learning more about how the school system truly worked I knew that it would never work as I would butt heads with the school board constantly and would never be able to make a career out of it as I am deeply upset by how the world is targeting children more with politics and gender ideology as children should just be children. Furthermore I get violently angry about how the internet allows predators to abuse and sexualize children or create and distribute media that is pedophilic in spirit (lolicons) with little to no punishment.

3. I am unaware of what that is

Edit: Sorry for the many edits I was trying to word it better.
 
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My intent was not to offend I was trying (and failing) to compliment you in hopes to ease your valid concerns towards posting something very personal on a forum where such acts are not recommend.
I did not take it that way. Apologies my language can be clinical. My intent was to express "I am happy a place like this exists."
I lack the faith that my friends have but I do not disparage their beliefs as I know that only do it because they care about me. They were never preachy if you are curious they are just good god fearing people who always have an outstretched hand if I ever should change my mind.
I am here with you. Mine are literal believers, and I am unable to do that. They always "pray for me" tho. Which is ok, because I and others need all the help we can get.
Upon learning more about how the school system truly worked I knew that it would never work as I would butt heads with the school board constantly and would never be able to make a career out of it as I am deeply upset by how the world is targeting children more with politics and gender ideology as children should just be children. Furthermore I get violently angry about how the internet allows predators to abuse and sexualize children or create and distribute media that is pedophilic in spirit (lolicons) with little to no punishment.
It is confusing and maddening. Even more so that people defend it. Children are exposed to an alarming amount of adult information/content. Kids/old people are the two groups that I come to closest to genuinely caring about. As in I would intervene if I saw something happening. I don't know if that is biologically hardwired or socially conditioned. Perhaps because I know that if I had been exposed to some of what they’re facing now, I would’ve had a massive meltdown or gone on the mother of all self-harming sprees. The picture of the little girl at a Pride parade with the Pup play degenerates angers me. The Jazz stuff is horrific. Desmond is Amazing's mother handler makes me want to fedpost.
3. I am unaware of what that is
Its a Netflix 'reality' show that follows autists across the spectrum while they navigate dating. A lot is cringe, but it is the first show I can remember that did not filter or gloss over the telltale signs that something is very off. It can be brutal. Seeing some of the manifestations of autism on screen can be hard to watch. Especially if you exhibit those same behaviors and work hard to hide regulate them.

Wiki article
Dani - Preddit - Archive
 
because they know men aren't interested in friendship with women, and they assume those women know it too, so they conclude they are befriending their moid cause they want something more than friendship. In this case the autist is being naive and the normie is correct to worry, they just don't know the autist isn't being malicious but rather naive. I remember being excited as a young sperg in college about how easy it was to make friends cause i previously went to a girls school, but eventually each moid i befriended would ask me out and then stop talking to me once turned down.
What upsets me about these scenarios is that usually the weird woman gets blamed for being, albeit naive, just a normal friendly person unlike the moid that usually can't tame himself and goes insane the moment any pussy approaches.
 
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I don't want to give you my name/instagram/whatever -> I don't use that app
There was one time a guy was asking me for my socials and when I told him that I don't use Instagram or whatever, he reacted incredulously and kept trying to be all "aw c'mon, you don't need to lie so unconvincingly just to let me down nicely ;)" about it. But I genuinely don't have any of that junk and can't prove a negative, and it was pissing me off a little that he wouldn't believe me just because other women in the world have Instagram, as if that has anything to do with me. There have been a few times in my life where I think I made guys feel like I was derisively rejecting them in a dating context but I'm actually just autistic and usually don't want to talk to or hang out with people in general. It's not you, it's everyone.

1. Is anyone religious and do you truly believe or do you just want to believe?

2. Do you care about/for animals?

3. Did anyone watch Love on the Spectrum? In particular Dani. She is really fixated on physical intimacy. Almost creepily so. I've never met another autistic girl who was so overtly sexual. I'm not saying they don't exist, and she clearly has puzzle piece traits like hyper-fixation and inflexibility. Any thoughts on her/the show?
I'm devoutly Roman Catholic, although my family is not nor are they really religious. I really believe, but usually I'm not super, err, emotional about it, I guess? Not that I don't genuinely care for my faith but I'm sure we all know the type of Christian who will be all "Ohh, I just fell in love with JESUS!" and expressively overcome with fervor and I'm not really like that. For me it's very intellectual, tbh the Catholic faith is incredibly autistic and there is a robust history of granular arguments written about all sorts of minutiae. I was always a skeptical person who prioritized logical reasoning and demanded that people justify their emotions, so this kind of theology definitely appeals more to me than, say, strains of low-church Evangelical Protestantism that focus on this idea that faith = ambiguous whims of the heart. The primary reason to believe in ANYTHING is because it is TRUE and I think it is really retarded when people choose beliefs based solely on any number of other things, such as aesthetics, (un)popularity, political trends, whether the other people who believe in it are likeable, whether it makes you feel good, etc. Disclaimer that I'm not necessarily the smartest debate-crushing intellectual just because I like facts and logic. And it is not like I'm not ever spiritual in more than just a hard facts way, just that a lot of popular sentiments don't really resonate with me and that I'm not great at expressing those aspects, so it's very interior. I was a hardcore atheist back when I thought that all religion was all about feelings and "it's true because you just gotta believe" circular reasoning.

Sometimes it is socially awkward because I don't fit the common image of a Catholic woman in basically any way at all and the Church tends to be more socially sex segregated, where people usually primarily socialize with the same sex, even relative to that being the trend in the general population. I'm not expressively empathetic or charismatic (i.e., the emotional hold-hands-and-sing-and-dance type of believer), which is how religious women tend to swing. I have been primarily male-socialized since childhood and have atypical interests like speedrunning, and I am admittedly kind of a sperg about hating some stuff that's popular for women. People don't hate on me or think I'm immoral or anything—most people I've met within the Church are super chill with me—but I'm just a huge outlier to a lot of norms, particularly gendered ones, and with most people I don't "fit in" or come off as relatable. It can be kinda annoying but it doesn't matter that deeply because I didn't pick my religion for it to be a cute social club (again: the primary reason to believe in anything is because it is TRUE).

I will say though, online Catholics are typically unbelievably retarded and insufferable. I think a lot of them are actually just larpers and grifters who don't even go to church since I basically never see that kind of person irl. They should be ignored because they are going through a mental illness called "being a teenager".

2. I love animals. I am the stereotype of the sperg who relates on a deeper level to animals, I especially love cats and feel like I can understand them well. Tbh sometimes I hear normies guess stuff about cats that's just blatantly wrong and it ironically gives me this feeling of indignant shock at their inability to recognize behavioral cues or understand the cat's true mental state.
When I was a young child I went through a long phase of being obsessed with fish because I personally related to them on an abstract level (I felt like we were both underdog creatures that normies dismissed but who actually had a profound interior depth) and if anyone killed or ate a fish in my presence I would have a titanic spergout and be inconsolable for literal hours or even days. This was to the point where when I played this online game in which fish were a consumable item, I'd straight up rob other players' homes while they weren't around, only stealing the fish and not any actual valuables, and created a secret hidden mass grave for them. I am also just realizing what my username on here is but I swear that's a coincidence...
However at that age I also had a vendetta against dogs because I spiritually associated them with normies and I'd shut my eyes if I saw one, and I'd get triggered if an adult said "she's scared of dogs" because I wasn't scared, I was just bitter about what they represented and about the fact that nobody understood these nuances. I like dogs now although hyperactive ones do make me feel sensorily uncomfortable. I also eat seafood now, but I still think fish are cool.

3. I don't watch or care about TV shows, but I did see someone complaining that they exaggerate how awkward the autists are. He claimed that the way they framed/cut shots and used goofy music would've made even the coolest alpha normie chad look retarded. I do not have faith that the show is a realistic representation of anything and I'm sure they play it all up for sensationalism, maybe she isn't like that irl. Autist4autist relationships are based however.
 
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I was a hardcore atheist back when I thought that all religion was all about feelings and "it's true because you just gotta believe" circular reasoning.
For me it's very intellectual, tbh the Catholic faith is incredibly autistic and there is a robust history of granular arguments written about all sorts of minutiae.
I've always been curious how others process religion. I can see the appeal in this. I attended a baptism (naming ceremony?) at a Catholic church twice and found it fascinating. I rapid fired questions to the parents about rituals, mass (the differences), communion, and latin. So kind of a sperg out but a managed one. They hadn’t expected that sort of thing to appeal to a robot and were pleasantly surprised by my genuine interest.
This was to the point where when I played this online game in which fish were a consumable item, I'd straight up rob other players' homes while they weren't around, only stealing the fish and not any actual valuables, and created a secret hidden mass grave for them.
I was never able to play online games. I need the solitude and would screw up any organized quests/raid by wasting time investigating landscape, cataloging ingredients, or mapping items. Currently I'm HATE playing remastered Oblivion because I am in an abusive relationship we Bethesda. We will go to Mars before TES6 is released. That being said this is awesome.
I like dogs now although hyperactive ones do make me feel sensorily uncomfortable.
I've always wondered how our circumstance affects the ability to connect/care about animals. Some autists that I've talked to have said sensory issues and cannot deal with the feel of fur/scales.
but I did see someone complaining that they exaggerate how awkward the autists are.
I can understand that. There is alot of cringe in the show, but that also occurs even in NT shows. I do think this is the first time something like this where the autist is not pity object. They have actual input sometimes to their detriment, but they are allowed to be themselves flaws and all.
Autist4autist relationships are based however.
I have never met a couple like this and it is probably why I am fascinated by the show. Everyone I know is paired with NTs. Seeing an A4A couple would be like seeing a unicorn for me.
 
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I have never met a couple like this and it is probably why I am fascinated by the show. Everyone I know is paired with NTs. Seeing an A4A couple would be like seeing a unicorn for me.
Every time I see A/A relationships it's just the most exhausting looking shit I've ever seen. Everybody is autistic in juuuust the right way to not mesh with the other person, so they have 500 steps to not bother the other, and if one thing is wrong it's a "we're not fighting" fight for 20 minutes. A lot of "I wish you had (over) explained that 2 weeks ago and you didn't and now I'm mad and I'm going to talk down to you about it" "actually I'm raising my voice because I'm naturally loud, not because I'm screaming at you, and also you should've known to ask 2 weeks ago, and now I'm NOT mad and that's why I'm not screaming at you," etc etc etc FOREVER EVERY DAY. I'm autistic, but goddamn in those environments I feel so neurotypical. It's like, jesus fuck do either of you know how to interact with people who can't read minds? Do either of you have any kind of interpersonal communication skills that aren't "wait until my needs aren't met then explode over something that can't be fixed"????
 
I'm autistic, but goddamn in those environments I feel so neurotypical. It's like, jesus fuck do either of you know how to interact with people who can't read minds? Do either of you have any kind of interpersonal communication skills that aren't "wait until my needs aren't met then explode over something that can't be fixed"????
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My girlfriend and I are going to be separated for a while and I'm looking for fun things to do online, like video games and activities and stuff. Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
My girlfriend and I are going to be separated for a while and I'm looking for fun things to do online, like video games and activities and stuff. Does anyone have any suggestions?
What games do you like? You're going to have to be a bit more specific.
 
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I dont play games often, which is why Im asking for suggestions. Hopefully something that can be played in-broweer
Do you like comedy? Slice of life? Horror? Romance? Fantasy? Espionage? Organisation? Decorating? Mystery? History? Building things? Do you like solving puzzles or do you prefer finding things? Do you like a light premise with a lot of action, or deep immersion in a complex world?

What you're doing is basically going to a library and telling the librarian that you want a book. You need to either give us some rough idea of what you're interested in, or else browse the shelves yourself to get an idea of what's out there. There are hundreds of thousands of computer games out there on the web.
 
I dont play games often, which is why Im asking for suggestions. Hopefully something that can be played in-broweer
There are plenty of browser based board games like chess.com or if your girlfriend is into tactical games fumbbl is a browser based bloodbowl site.

There is also of course Runescape which is not a very intense game and gives you plenty of time to talk and hang out while grinding or whatever you might want to do.

If she likes pokemon there is pokemon showdown

I can offer more information, but at the moment I am just tossing anything at the board to see if it sticks as I know nothing about your girlfriend.
 
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I didn’t think I was autistic, I just thought I had bad luck like I was cursed. Didn’t get diagnosed till 39. When the psychologist confirmed it I burst into tears. I was very good at “being good” and what the adults wanted from me for much of my childhood.
As a 20-30 something I got the bpdemon label because I thought the world was too cruel and exhausting.

While some male autistics might be savant smart I think as a general rule female autistics are smarter socially and emotionally and that’s why we don’t get diagnosed as easily. It’s in our best interests to blend in as its dangerous to show weakness. Its nearly always acceptable for males to be lazy or huge nerds.
 
As a 20-30 something I got the bpdemon label because I thought the world was too cruel and exhausting.
To anyone curious why this happens:
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Someone with more understanding than me will have to elaborate more on the specifics of people's internal realities, but one thing that stood out to me personally when I was learning about all this is the sensory aspect I mentioned earlier in this thread.

i.e. If you have sensory issues, you can't really participate in certain activities as a child the same way other kids do, and that distance only expands over time unless there's an intervention.
 
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