r/ChapoTrapHouse / Chapo.chat - Transvestite Trotskyites, Agender Ancoms, Sissy Stalinists

[whale roads]

This guy wants me dead and has said so. He fantasizes about murdering his own family for the sin of being insufficiently leftist. The big gay textwall going around about his noble, hopeful empathy for the third world was delivered mere minutes after an extended monologue about putting Catholics in death camps. Get two drinks in him (not hard!) and he's off with a slobbering speech about his dreams for Amerikkkan Dekulakization. He's really a despicable unreconstructed communist filled with bile and bloodlust who poured invective on the corpses of his political adversaries before their bodies were cold, and I don't think he deserves any less. I'm not offering an iota of sympathy for a guy who literally, explicitly, unambiguously, and unapologetically works toward my violent murder and dispossession.

 

[A Sentient Cloud]

You are correct. The only things I know about Chapo is through osmosis via Twitter and MovieBob, and that one clip of Matt I posted which, I'm sorry but, filled me disdain. Since you were an actual listener would you be able to clarify something for me? Are they full blown commies or is that just me mixing them in with Hasan like you were saying? I genuinely don't know.

I know nothing about Hasan so I can't make that comparison, but my take is that their politics have become much more amorphous since the Sanders flameout, they were all firmly Democratic Socialists prior to that. In case you care:

Will Menaker: Rich kid from the Upper West Side, attended private schools, father was a well-known journalist. Dad got him a job in publishing prior to CTH. Standard New York Times lib on most issues except stuff that he doesn't know much about (like Ukraine or trannies in women's sports), at which point his take is "I don't care, and if you care you're a retard." In a long-term open relationship with a woman who prefers other women and they have lots of threesomes (ask me how I know this), seems very into trans and LGBT issues. Big movie buff and loves to cook. Worst of the bunch by far.

Felix Biedermann: Upper middle class Jewish kid from suburban Illinois. College dropout, gamer, recovering alcoholic, worked menial jobs prior to CTH. Politics are mostly contrarian. Thinks the solution to homelessness is to just give everyone a house. Once pronounced wantonly as "wonton-ly." Chronically online to the point where even the other hosts have trouble following his jokes and references. Can be funny in small doses.

Amber Frost: Working class daughter of a single mother of indeterminate ethnicity from Indiana. Attended IU and New York University, has held a few teaching positions since then. Actual Marxist and is second to Matt in her knowledge of theory and history. Identifies as a dissident feminist and is the Chapo most likely to be a terf. Has not been on the podcast with any consistency for years, her last major appearance was their episode on the Roe v. Wade ruling. Despite this, she was on the clip that announced Matt's hospitalization and seems to be on good terms with them. Roomed with both Felix and Nick Mullen of Cumtown and likely slept with both. Her first book, a memoir titled Dirtbag, comes out in December.

Matt Christman: Middle class upbringing, member of a second family to an older father, from rural Wisconsin. Currently on marriage number two to one Amber Rollo, an ascended Chapo stan. The smartest of the Chapos. Encyclopedic knowledge of American history. Loves drunken rants. His politics are all over the map but he's definitely left of center.

Chris Wade: Producer and Matt's partner in the excellent Hell On Earth and Hell Of Presidents podcasts. Seems like a decent guy, don't know much about him.

EDIT: God I can't believe I forgot about:

Virgil Texas: Pseudonym of Justin Cass, Cornell '09. Appears to be at least part Asian and has also said he was raised Catholic, which has led people to speculate that he's of Filipino heritage. The elections wonk of the group, very into party politics. Kind of a dandy. Left the podcast after Bernie's flameout in 2016 because he was so disheartened, and/or because of a very weak cancellation attempt where a woman on Twitter claimed he talked to her when she was underage, though she has never produced any evidence of her claims. After Chapo he did a short run of podcasts, published some essays, and then dropped off the face of the earth.

 

[Unknown Recipient #12]

The "encyclopedic knowledge" of this "thinker" must be getting lost on me because all the emotionally incontinent text-wall quote dumps from his show look like run-of-the-mill Reddit screenshots to me. Random teen-rage swears mixed with "America bad, right wingers bad, Orange Man bad, and I hate my parents."

It doesn't help that he looks like this.

 

[wholetthegodsout]

Great summary.

Basically chapo started out in 2016 as class first bernie bro socialism with a bit of an edge, and lots of internet twitter humor. They were all about a really combative tone and huge criticism of the DNC and and party elites. They were also pretty damn funny. They would openly mock SJWs and lolcows like arthur chu in their early episodes. I have never seen their posting histories but apparently they all were on SA in the early days and more than likely were openly participating in the boards culture at that time.

The problem in my opinion is they got so successful making 100-200k a month on patreon and gaining a huge following they inevitably had to tone things down when it came to criticizing the LGBTQ+ stuff, BLM, and immigration. I assume they have convinced themselves this stuff is not a big threat to a class first leftist project and that something like Kiwi Farms is no big loss in the grand shceme of things so why rock the boat when you are making the kind of money they are? Their posting days are over and they have their established following. They are just sitting back and commenting on politics and reviewing movies and raking in the dough

Hasan and vaush starting stealing a lot of their thunder especially among zoomers too. Not saying they are the same but the have become more of the left touchstone for extremely online people. After Bernie went down in flames in 2020 I pretty much stopped listening except for an occasional episode and also Matt christmans cush vlogs which are actually pretty entertaining because Matt talks about a lot of theory and history topics that I think anyone of any political persuasion would find interesting.

 

[A Sentient Cloud]

The "encyclopedic knowledge" of this "thinker" must be getting lost on me because all the emotionally incontinent text-wall quote dumps from his show look like run-of-the-mill Reddit screenshots to me. Random teen-rage swears mixed with "America bad, right wingers bad, Orange Man bad, and I hate my parents."

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I'd recommend listening to his podcasts, Twitter is cancer.

The problem in my opinion is they got so successful making 100-200k a month on patreon and gaining a huge following they inevitably had to tone things down when it came to criticizing the LGBTQ+ stuff, BLM, and immigration. I assume they have convinced themselves this stuff is not a big threat to a class first leftist project and that something like Kiwi Farms is no big loss in the grand shceme of things so why rock the boat when you are making the kind of money they are?

A big part of it is that they were legitimately anticipating a Bernie Sanders win in 2020 and expected that they would have major roles in the post-Trump media landscape, if not actual jobs within his administration.

 

[whale roads]

Will Menaker: Rich kid from the Upper West Side, attended private schools, father was a well-known journalist. Dad got him a job in publishing prior to CTH. Standard New York Times lib on most issues except stuff that he doesn't know much about (like Ukraine or trannies in women's sports), at which point his take is "I don't care, and if you care you're a retard." In a long-term open relationship with a woman who prefers other women and they have lots of threesomes (ask me how I know this), seems very into trans and LGBT issues. Big movie buff and loves to cook. Worst of the bunch by far.

It should be noted that Menaker's grandfather Robert was a Soviet spy conclusively identified in the Venona papers and his dad was a wacky "anarcho-syndicalist" and chief executive editor of Random House!!!

Biederman's dad was a bigwig corporate attorney and left-wing donor in Chicago politics. Virgil, in addition to being a twee child predator, is assumed to be closely related (siblings or cousins) to Oren Cass, Bain Capital freak and minor neocon think-tank talking head.

These guys are rich, subversive, corrosive freaks who come from long lines of rich, subversive, corrosive freaks. The exceptions are Christman, who is by all accounts a massive loser from a family of completely normal American proles, which seems to be driving his extreme ressentiment; and Frost, who is apparently a product of fucked up underclass family dynamics.

 

[mister fireworks]

You are correct. The only things I know about Chapo is through osmosis via Twitter and MovieBob, and that one clip of Matt I posted which, I'm sorry but, filled me disdain. Since you were an actual listener would you be able to clarify something for me? Are they full blown commies or is that just me mixing them in with Hasan like you were saying? I genuinely don't know.

I've thought a lot about how to answer this question because yeah, i agree without any context that clip would not inspire anyone to think "hey, maybe this guy and his show would be interesting and good". The show in my opinion is perfectly tailored for people like myself: millenials who came of age during the bush years and were overly interested in politics. the combination of being naive but enthusiastic and seeing Bush get elected for a second term ("maybe this country is full of retards and maybe we did deserve 9/11!") then voting for Obama and desperately buying into his shallow but alluring "hope and change" bullshit.

I checked out once obama got elected like basically all other liberals but I had a vague awareness that he had not just failed due to republicans blocking his ambition, but because he really is an elitist wannabe celebrity with no conscience. The hillary/trump election cycle was hilarious in its own right, but the show was started with the assumption that hillary would get elected and that they would spend her entire term calling her a liar and pointing out all the horrible shit she would do (100% would've gotten into Syria and stayed there), and making fun of all the stupid shit she said and did to robotically pander to a country of people she so clearly sees as beneath her in every way. Oh, and ridiculing all of her simpering staff and allies in the press. The trump thing shook it all up but with the exception of some cloying episodes about blm shit, it stayed true to its roots. The show where they review the tv show that hillary and chelsea made where they try to look and act like people in a mexican restaurant was gold.

They never call themselves commies and I know matt in particular has said that he actually doesnt really know what the fuck really "must be done". I think if you listened you'd probably just think they were socialists who get a little too big for their britches. I cant think of an analogous show on the right. The show is not for republicans or conservatives. Its for people on the left who hate the liberals who spend all day whining about trump and russia- especially people who get paid to do it for a living.

what makes them different than streamers/breadtube/turkroach is that they actually put out a very tightly edited show, they know their history, and they make rapid fire jokes and dont slow down to give 101 lessons on everything they discuss. They make a joke about oliver north or elliot abrams and if you dont know who they are, then tough titties. Thats one thing that i dont get about the show though, they have so many fans who dont know shit about shit. Do people who listen to hasan know anything abut John bolton or mccain-feingold? because if they dont, then they dont know enough to even agree with any of this leftist shit or appreciate a lot of the best jokes.

i dunno man. it looks so gay now that ive typed it all out.

here is a video someone made comparing vaush and matt that kind of sums it up better than i could i guess.

and this is one clip i had saved for some reason that still makes me laugh here

 

[whale roads]

They never call themselves commies and I know matt in particular has said that he actually doesnt really know what the fuck really "must be done".

They are extremely clear about what "must be done:" Vote Blue No Matter Who, Support Trans Kids, #BlackLivesMatter, and Unlimited Bomalian Immigration Forever. You are right that they don't have a plan on how to get to "slaughter your local car dealership owner" screed that comes out after coke bump #3, instead they are content to let George Floyd and the Unlimited Bomalians get us there somehow.

I just don't see how you can listen to these guys agitate for the same thing for 7 years and not get it. Holding contempt for their dipshit audience and lightly dismissing Vaush doesn't invalidate this. They're bourgeois limousine communists. Yeah they operate on a higher level than the Turk, so does junior high social studies. Making a joke about Ollie North, what sophistication! John Bolton, très obscure!

 

[mister fireworks]

They are extremely clear about what "must be done:" Vote Blue No Matter Who, Support Trans Kids, #BlackLivesMatter, and Unlimited Bomalian Immigration Forever. You are right that they don't have a plan on how to get to "slaughter your local car dealership owner" screed that comes out after coke bump #3, instead they are content to let George Floyd and the Unlimited Bomalians get us there somehow.

I just don't see how you can listen to these guys agitate for the same thing for 7 years and not get it. Holding contempt for their dipshit audience and lightly dismissing Vaush doesn't invalidate this. They're bourgeois limousine communists. Yeah they operate on a higher level than the Turk, so does junior high social studies. Making a joke about Ollie North, what sophistication! John Bolton, très obscure!

shut up faggot

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

Matt Christman hospitalized suddenly. out for indefinite future.

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I was wondering why this thread was being brought back into relevance. If anything, it says a lot that Cumtown can still sort of operate on the same level that Chapo Trap House used to be on, yet you don’t see them being as cursed as them.

 

[Load Bearing Drywall]

I cant think of an analogous show on the right

Closest thing I can think of are the heterodox center right dudes on The Fifth Column, if it was filtered through SA. All of the chapos were lurkers or active posters on SA's Lassiez's Faire subforum -- as was a majority of the people behind Jacobin (Still can't believe former mod McCaine is actually a respected theorist now despite his degeneracy being common knowledge and his fetish porn being constantly posted at him).

 

[mister fireworks]

Closest thing I can think of are the heterodox center right dudes on The Fifth Column, if it was filtered through SA. All of the chapos were lurkers or active posters on SA's Lassiez's Faire subforum -- as was a majority of the people behind Jacobin (Still can't believe former mod McCaine is actually a respected theorist now despite his degeneracy being common knowledge and his fetish porn being constantly posted at him).

Hmm interesting honestly i have never been to SA and since i'm a little older than felix and virgil, who ar ethe only two i recall explicitly referencing SA, I guess I just missed the boat completely on what the forums were even about. Its so strange to me that felix has mentioned guys like demonius x (literal mentally ill lolcow) and that notre dame retard dan something multiple times on the show like as if ANYONE knows what or who the fuck thats all about. seemed like a weird way for him to signal that he is the SA equivalent of an oldfag, but to whom and why?

A big part of it is that they were legitimately anticipating a Bernie Sanders win in 2020 and expected that they would have major roles in the post-Trump media landscape, if not actual jobs within his administration.

What makes you say this? I thin i was already checked out by the time the reality of sanders being completely done finally sunk in, but I'm surprised that they would be this... retarded? I know vrigil had that show with that black girl so i can see how he would labor under that delusion, but did they actually insinuate that they thought sanders would want anything to do with them as president?

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

shut up faggot

You're openly defending people who want this site to die but somehow he's the faggot. Hey buddy explain to the class why Keffals is good and kiwifarms is bad. And while you're at it tell us how these "class first" bastards choose the rich tranny over our poor eastern european resident site owner. Also since they're so anti-hilary could you please point us to the episode where they go over Hilary being interviewed by Contrapoints and brutally mock Nick.

(watch this everyone this guy is so old, he's going to pretend he doesn't know what i'm talking about because he's probably a tranny fetishist and won't even bother defending his chapo idols)

 

[mister fireworks]

You're openly defending people who want this site to die but somehow he's the faggot. Hey buddy explain to the class why Keffals is good and kiwifarms is bad. And while you're at it tell us how these "class first" bastards choose the rich tranny over our poor eastern european resident site owner. Also since they're so anti-hilary could you please point us to the episode where they go over Hilary being interviewed by Contrapoints and brutally mock Nick.

(watch this everyone this guy is so old, he's going to pretend he doesn't know what i'm talking about because he's probably a tranny fetishist and won't even bother defending his chapo idols)

hey retard my first post explicitly said that matt was the only one who refused to participate in that faggot ass segment about keffals anbd that segment was the last straw for me to stop listening to their shit. I called out the other two for what they both are, tranny lovers and hypocrites. kill yourself.

 

[AnOminous]

Making a joke about Ollie North, what sophistication! John Bolton, très obscure!

Tbh my favorite Trump arc was when he brought Bolton on staff and continually belittled and mocked him in front of his colleagues, then fired him.

What makes you say this? I thin i was already checked out by the time the reality of sanders being completely done finally sunk in, but I'm surprised that they would be this... retarded?

I don't think he was cheated in 2020, but 2016 was pretty blatantly rigged to pick Shrillary who went on to lose in one of the most incompetent campaigns I've ever seen.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

hey retard my first post explicitly said that matt was the only one who refused to participate in that faggot ass segment about keffals anbd that segment was the last straw for me to stop listening to their shit. I called out the other two for what they both are, tranny lovers and hypocrites. kill yourself.

in the war on trannies being a Conscientious objector is tactile support, for a supposed dirtbag and someone who whines about every other fucking thing, the fact that he doesn't have the balls to go TERF shows he probably deserved to die. in fact for "dirtbags" they sure do toe the internet leftist line every fucking time. Their entire show has been "the blue checkmark opinion round up" since the beginning but you're such a boomer you can't even see that. It really shows how demented you are that it took the one thing you disagree with the internet left about for you to realize what anyone with a brain saw when they first started their show.

Making a joke about Ollie North, what sophistication! John Bolton, très obscure!

to be fair, mocking republicans is such a rare thing in mainstream media you have to have a pretty high IQ to do it properly, you never heard anyone making jokes about Reagan until these guys did it (this is actually what @mister fireworks actually believes)

This is my favorite part about a certain brand of TERF, they genuinely don't have the brainpower to go "if the left is wrong about this what other stuff were they wrong about that i didn't realize?" like every asshole in gamergate did. So they keep up their faggy APUSH knowledge of history and politics not once thinking maybe the Republican politicians maybe didn't deserve to be mocked when they talked about drag queen story hour or trans issues before the 2020s or other stuff that they were clearly right about.

 

[Load Bearing Drywall]

Tbh my favorite Trump arc was when he brought Bolton on staff and continually belittled and mocked him in front of his colleagues, then fired him.

Mine was the eleven days of Anthony Scaramucci -- he is the archetypical 80s deygo wall street bro, and knowing my share of old school NYC eye-talians, it was a delight to watch him realize in real time that Trump doesn't even follow mob rules on honor among thieves.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

Mine was the eleven days of Anthony Scaramucci -- he is the archetypical 80s deygo wall street bro, and knowing my share of old school NYC eye-talians, it was a delight to watch him realize in real time that Trump doesn't even follow mob rules on honor among thieves.

Chapos sure do love their Italians, I have noticed a distinct lack of mocking blacks, jews, spics, asians, trannies, or anyone else in a group liberals have a hard on for. For a guy who's so "nothing matters besides class" you sure are afraid to actually practice the bullshit you preach.

 

[mister fireworks]

Tbh my favorite Trump arc was when he brought Bolton on staff and continually belittled and mocked him in front of his colleagues, then fired him.

I don't think he was cheated in 2020, but 2016 was pretty blatantly rigged to pick Shrillary who went on to lose in one of the most incompetent campaigns I've ever seen.

the bolton arc was one of my favorites too. "we'd be in world war six if id listened to him". based. Must have really stung a guy like bolton who spent his entire career squirming his way into so many administrations.

I don't think he was cheated in 2020, but 2016 was pretty blatantly rigged to pick Shrillary who went on to lose in one of the most incompetent campaigns I've ever seen.

my response was to the guy saying the chapos thought that if bernie had gotten the nom in 2020 that they wouldve been part of his admin or become serious commentators or something. that seems pretty delusional.
Hillary's campaign in '08 released that pic of obama wearing that african dashiki thing and she refused to drop out way after she was already mathematically DQ'd by electoral votes because "something might happen to obama". its a testament to what a complete and utter zero she is that even with the rigged primaries and running against a retarded gameshow host, she still got merked. Literally turning buses of people arounf from campaigning in michigan to "trick" trump into not going there? Michigan went red for the first time in like 45 years for trump in 2016. dumb bitch gave it away to him lol.

 

[AnOminous]

my response was to the guy saying the chapos thought that if bernie had gotten the nom in 2020 that they wouldve been part of his admin or become serious commentators or something. that seems pretty delusional.

I honestly don't think Bernie would have won either, but he would have at least lost with honor, and stood for something other than whorish opportunism. Dumb bitch literally tried to help Trump get the nomination in the belief that this would ensure her victory. That kind of contemptible shenanigans has no place in the White House, or at least shouldn't.