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Moexlibu said:
By the way, I just came across this pure gold nugget (or maybe some rather brown object of similar form but weaker consistence) http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Reverend_Black_Percy&diff=1650171&oldid=1649611

Should maybe also be put in the Mona thread...
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I didn't read all of that, because tl;dr, but :

I've exchanged extensive -- very extensive -- email with FCP. He admits he's rightwing -- he just says not as much as I probably think.
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I was also accused of "being right-wing" by Mona during a private email conversation. It's incredibly funny as I'm one of the most left-wing people I know. And I know lots of left-wing folk. I'm probably more left-wing than most at RationalWiki on most issues (education, immigration, economics, etc.)

But ... I'm not a judgemental prick. I also try to understand the opposing side, and on many occasions I must come to the conclusion that it's a valid line of reasoning that I happen to disagree with based on different priorities, personal values, ethics, etc. This classifies as "being right wing", in some people's eyes ... apparently ... This is also, basically, the problem with the whole GG shitfest and me leaving RW. By trying to understand people and discussing with them I was considered "one of them"...

AnOminous said:
Let me guess, not a word of thanks from that asshat ingrate David Gerard.
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*Shrug*. I don't need a thanks. I just wanted shit to get fixed. Not that I really care at this point, but as I said before, I wasted a lot of time on it, and almost none of it was acted on.
 
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WhoopieDoo said:
I was also accused of "being right-wing" by Mona during a private email conversation. It's incredibly funny as I'm one of the most left-wing people I know. And I know lots of left-wing folk. I'm probably more left-wing than most at RationalWiki on most issues (education, immigration, economics, etc.)

But ... I'm not a judgemental prick. I also try to understand the opposing side, and on many occasions I must come to the conclusion that it's a valid line of reasoning that I happen to disagree with based on different priorities, personal values, ethics, etc. This classifies as "being right wing", in some people's eyes ... apparently ... This is also, basically, the problem with the whole GG shitfest and me leaving RW. By trying to understand people and discussing with them I was considered "one of them"...
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Is Drumpf literally Hitler, though?
 
Dynastia said:
I can't even!
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I'm literally practising my fucking inane David Gerard impression for my second career as a comedian. I bet it will fail because right-wing Gamergate Nazis will organize a campaign against me, but I'll try!
 
WhoopieDoo said:
I was also accused of "being right-wing" by Mona during a private email conversation. It's incredibly funny as I'm one of the most left-wing people I know. And I know lots of left-wing folk. I'm probably more left-wing than most at RationalWiki on most issues (education, immigration, economics, etc.)
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Well the left has always been known to accuse other parts of the left of not being "real leftists"... In Mona's mind if you disagree with her on any issue (especially Israel), you are automatically the second coming of Hitler, Mussolini and Wilhelm II
 
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http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...en_coop&curid=2919&diff=1651053&oldid=1651050

A Matter of Principle
This isn't about whether a user has committed bad behavior (which, by the way, he has). This is about Principle. This is about upholding what few rules we have here. If we impose sanctions on a user, we're placing limitations on a person's rights to edit here. No matter what they call themselves, they are still subject to that sanction. If a binned user creates another account, that account should be subject to the same terms and restrictions as the original. If Pizzameister is indeed AvengeroftheBoN, he should be vandal binned. If you disagree with this statement then you don't believe in any kind of law and order at all on RationalWiki. This isn't about whether the account Pizzameister has acted badly: if you create a sockpuppet account to avoid the law, that's bad behavior. That's justification enough for a bin. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 20:52, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Put your wikicop e-penis away, son. You're embarrassing yourself waving it around like this. Robledo (talk) 22:18, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

^This. WėąṣėḷőįďMethinks it is a Weasel 22:21, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

+1 --Kugelschreiber (talk) (mail) (block) 23:43, 5 April 2016 (UTC) 23:43, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 
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Hellfire said:
http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...en_coop&curid=2919&diff=1651053&oldid=1651050

A Matter of Principle
This isn't about whether a user has committed bad behavior (which, by the way, he has). This is about Principle. This is about upholding what few rules we have here. If we impose sanctions on a user, we're placing limitations on a person's rights to edit here. No matter what they call themselves, they are still subject to that sanction. If a binned user creates another account, that account should be subject to the same terms and restrictions as the original. If Pizzameister is indeed AvengeroftheBoN, he should be vandal binned. If you disagree with this statement then you don't believe in any kind of law and order at all on RationalWiki. This isn't about whether the account Pizzameister has acted badly: if you create a sockpuppet account to avoid the law, that's bad behavior. That's justification enough for a bin. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 20:52, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Put your wikicop e-penis away, son. You're embarrassing yourself waving it around like this. Robledo (talk) 22:18, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

^This. WėąṣėḷőįďMethinks it is a Weasel 22:21, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

+1 --Kugelschreiber (talk) (mail) (block) 23:43, 5 April 2016 (UTC) 23:43, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
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This is getting more ridiculous by the hour.
 
The antics continue at the chicken coop.

Something I still don't understand
So I am not quite sure who the user I am supposedly a zombie second coming of is or was and I also do not care. However, apparently this person must have done something horrible in order for the punishment to be eternal and without appeal. Now the prosecution's case seems to be entirely out to prove or argue that I am indeed that person, but even the prosecution does not accuse me of any actual wrongdoing. So if I may be so blunt: Will the prosecution please come forth with an actual heinous act committed without reasonable doubt by me? We have a saying in Austria which I think might apply here "Scheißen oder Runter vom Topf!" Pizzameister (talk) 22:09, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

You were harassing other users and editing certain pages in order to provoke certain editors you didn't like. That's trolling. The former account was cooped here before. It was several months ago. You can check around in the edit history if you aren't already aware.

Look, I know what you're trying to do. You're trying to shift the argument from what it is actually about (sockpuppetry and deceit) to a referendum on whether the user account Pizzameister has committed some heinous act. That's very deceitful in and of itself. We're not holding a vote on whether Pizzameister has made some kind of terrible remark or vandalized or something. That's not what this is about. This is about one user who was punished using a false name to continue editing unnoticed. In my humble opinion, that's a heinous thing by itself. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 03:41, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Also, could you be more obvious, Avenger? "Here in Austria". We know it's you. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 03:41, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
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Wait a minute.
Has Pizzameister actualy done anything against the rules, and has he even done anything vandalous while he has been here, i do not think he has, so what is the point in putting him in the vandal bin, the vandal bin is to stop vandalism, not as a time out corner. I think the worst we should do is give him a 9 hour block, if we can prove he is avenger and leave it at that, the vandal bin is meant to bin vandals, not to be used as a time out corner. (note i still dont think that pizza is avenger, and that everyone needs to chill.) Bubba41102The place where you can scream at me 22:59, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Evading a binning/banning is technically a rule violation if it can be proven. Question is whether we should care. Results seem to be that we do. CorruptUser (talk) 23:39, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Yes but PB and his gang have proved jack stercore, so any argument for his binning is invalid until they do. Bubba41102The place where you can scream at me 23:55, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Well if that is what the rest of the community believes then there won't be a problem. Also, since Pizzameister is probably going to be binned he will be able to appeal his binning the wiki even if he is Avenger; Goonie was reconsidering Avenger's binning right before shit hit the fan. Since he is limited to 1 edit per half hour he can also email relevant users in order to complain so if we did fuck up he isn't doomed.--Owlman (talk) (mail) 01:32, 7 April 2016 (UTC) 01:32, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
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