Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

The key to winning war is not bombs as Bloober think. It is logistic and having a good startegy. The averege roman soldier was weaker than the german warrior, but what the roman had, was good weaponry, good strategic thinking and an amazing logistic . Logistic win wars. bombs doesn't.

The Romans also had teamwork. The phalanx was designed so every soldier supported each other, and every phalanx supported the other. Until the Teutoburg Forest disaster, nobody could beat them. The reason they lost at Teutoburg is because a traitor who knew how they fought was able to devise tactics to use against the Romans.
Additionally, bombs are not the be-all, end-all. If they were, Al-Qaeda and the Taliban would be bad memories by now.
Bob, as always, cannot think beyond the most simplest terms.

 

[Foltest]

The Romans also had teamwork. The phalanx was designed so every soldier supported each other, and every phalanx supported the other. Until the Teutoburg Forest disaster, nobody could beat them. The reason they lost at Teutoburg is because a traitor who knew how they fought was able to devise tactics to use against the Romans.
Additionally, bombs are not the be-all, end-all. If they were, Al-Qaeda and the Taliban would be bad memories by now.
Bob, as always, cannot think beyond the most simplest terms.

Correct. When roman was denied the battlefiled of their choosing, they would get fucked up. Another battle is the battle of carhere, where the Persian used their horses to great effect and had put up an effective supply line with ammo.

 

[Rekkington]

The key to winning war is not bombs as Bloober think. It is logistic and having a good startegy. The averege roman soldier was weaker than the german warrior, but what the roman had, was good weaponry, good strategic thinking and an amazing logistic . Logistic win wars. bombs doesn't.

Also, most of the time war isn't fought to completely decimate the opponent, since that's nearly impossible especially if they are ideologically driven. This is well known in military strategy, and actually is a central theme of the Starship Troopers book.
ST is actually a more stark example because in that book they have the technology to destroy entire planets from a distance, they could eliminate every bug world with relative ease. The problem is the destruction is too high, you're never sure if you got them all, and you understand next to nothing about them or their motivations. The ultimate goal is surrender, which is why Rico is a mobile infantry character sent in for surgical strikes, asset removal, shock-and-awe, and other tactical maneuvers.
You see this reflected in current warfare, too. This is especially important if you want to conserve enemy resources, land, personnel, etc. America has enough firepower to take out every single one of its enemies right now with surgical precision, but even that is a doomed enterprise since the real goal of all warfare (except I suppose an immediate defense against an invasion) is control.
Machiavelli's The Prince actually deals primarily with this as well, a lot of it is about how you can be installed as a foreign ruler in an presumably hostile land and how to get not only the population but also the elites and influencers on your side. The answer, unsurprisingly, is not ruling hostilely with an iron fist.

 

[Meriasek]

Bob doesn't think that way. Bob just sees Dresden '45 and thinks "Yeah, this was good. I like that. Can we do that to *list of red states*?"
He cares about winning, but most importantly he cares about payback. He projects his (mostly imaginary) highschool bullies unto every Trump voter, and he wants them to suffer for what they did to him. Or rather, what he imagines they did to him. Winning is just a pretend goal. He'd want to bomb Kansas either way.

 

[AnimeGirlConnoisseur]

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Been a while since I've been this baffled by this idiot.

Ok, context for this tweet is shit, Robert is discussing political galaxy brains sperg with a pansexual troon (if you couldn't guess by the name), but that is ignorable shit.

But Robert's notion that bombs win wars? what?

First off, even if we entretain this bullshit, you still need money to make the motherfucking bombs, they don't sprout from the ground.

Second, bombs don't do shit if there isn't a seizable army to OCCUPY the place they are bombing to begin with, otherwise you are just making holes in the ground. The nukes on Japan would be meaningless if there wasn't already a fleet of American ships ready to occupy Japan.

So no, war didn't change, you still need money and people, cry all you want about "muh drones, and muh science", but jack shit gets done if there isn't boots on the ground.

To add to what you're saying, all of the tech in the world doesn't matter unless you have the industry needed to apply it on a mass scale and a logistical system to get it where it needs to go, both of which require obsoletes.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Daily e-begging:

We haven't seen him post the expensive crap he buys with his begging money for a while. Has he been reading the thread?

I'm new to MovieBob. He has a thing for asians?

Do you mean Asian women or the Chinese Communist Party? The answer is yes to both.

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Been a while since I've been this baffled by this idiot.

Ok, context for this tweet is shit, Robert is discussing political galaxy brains sperg with a pansexual troon (if you couldn't guess by the name), but that is ignorable shit.

But Robert's notion that bombs win wars? what?

First off, even if we entretain this bullshit, you still need money to make the motherfucking bombs, they don't sprout from the ground.

Second, bombs don't do shit if there isn't a seizable army to OCCUPY the place they are bombing to begin with, otherwise you are just making holes in the ground. The nukes on Japan would be meaningless if there wasn't already a fleet of American ships ready to occupy Japan.

So no, war didn't change, you still need money and people, cry all you want about "muh drones, and muh science", but jack shit gets done if there isn't boots on the ground.

Literally this scene from Starship Troopers.

 

[Captain Marvelous]

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Been a while since I've been this baffled by this idiot.

Ok, context for this tweet is shit, Robert is discussing political galaxy brains sperg with a pansexual troon (if you couldn't guess by the name), but that is ignorable shit.

But Robert's notion that bombs win wars? what?

First off, even if we entretain this bullshit, you still need money to make the motherfucking bombs, they don't sprout from the ground.

Second, bombs don't do shit if there isn't a seizable army to OCCUPY the place they are bombing to begin with, otherwise you are just making holes in the ground. The nukes on Japan would be meaningless if there wasn't already a fleet of American ships ready to occupy Japan.

So no, war didn't change, you still need money and people, cry all you want about "muh drones, and muh science", but jack shit gets done if there isn't boots on the ground.

There's also the fact that Bob forgot about a little thing called mutually assured destruction.

In addition, Japan was already on the ropes by the end of World War II, but they wouldn't surrender because of the Bushido Code. It was only after America dropped the bomb (as well as the Soviet Union invading Manchuria) that made the Emperor discuss the terms of surrender.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Some people just aren't born with good looks, and there's plenty of truth to the Roald Dahl happiness is on the inside image from Witches.

But the Chipman brothers just look ugly. Bob lets his anger and ugliness on the inside consume him outwards but come on Chris, get rid of that mole on your nose and try to make an effort. If you're going to e-beg you can try to clean up a bit. The only compliment I'll give Bob is right now he looks more presentable than his younger brother. And that's a low bar.

 

[BScCollateral]

It wouldn't be Bob if he didn't take ten sentences to say what could've been summarized in one, plus a wiki link to her inverted family tree.

And while her kid with Julius Cesar is usually in the movies, her three kids with Mark Anthony never show up. Poor kids.

Logistic win wars. bombs doesn't.

Right; in fact, I'd argue that offensive airpower is best used to disrupt enemy logistics.

Spoiler: Fictional Example

Shigeru Mizuki's Onward Towards Our Noble Deaths, (1973) is about a Japanese unit cut off by American sea and air forces. By the time the Americans come to mop them up, one Japanese soldier dies from choking on a fish he caught.

 

[An Sionnach Seang]

For most people, "punching" Thunberg is not "punching down"; it is punching way, way, up beyond their weight class.
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I see they've kept the original series' sense of levity
old Mister £10,000/Year-Private-School-And-Oxford-Educated And Never Had To Earn A Living But Still Taotally A Socialist Yah (i.e. Owen Jones) was literally in nappies when it aired, and it was on ITV, so it's no wonder he considers it problematic / beneath him

 

[Things Better Forgotten]

There's also the fact that Bob forgot about a little thing called mutually assured destruction.

In addition, Japan was already on the ropes by the end of World War II, but they wouldn't surrender because of the Bushido Code. It was only after America dropped the bomb (as well as the Soviet Union invading Manchuria) that made the Emperor discuss the terms of surrender.

I'm going to history sperg here for a moment.

It wasn't that the bushido code didn't allow for the concept of surrender, or that they somehow thought they could pull a win out at the 11th hour. The primary concern was that the U.S. was calling for unconditional surrender. At this point, the objective for the military was to keep the Emperor in power no matter what, and if they surrender unconditionally that means the Americans might remove Hirohito, or worse: dismantle the royal house. This is why they were preparing to wage a truly horrifying war of attrition on the home islands. The goal isn't to win anymore, its to not lose. Send enough GI's home in body bags that Uncle Sam is willing to agree to terms. The A-Bomb+the Reds changed all that. Ironically enough the U.S. considered the idea of removing the Emperor, but realized they could never occupy the country if they did. So U.S. leadership acknowledged that the Emperor wasn't going to go anywhere, but once you call for Unconditional Surrender, offering (or accepting) terms shows weakness.

And as usual, Bob knows nothing. As others have already pointed out: amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics. What made the Allied efforts in Europe effective wasn't that the U.S. M1 rifle was better than the German K98, or that the T34 or Sherman were a better tanks than the Panzer IV. What made the allies successful was that there was a logistical train that kept the rifle squads supplied with ammo and well fed, the tanks always had spare parts and fuel. Germany suffered from chronic fuel shortages all through the war, and there are stories of Panzer crews physically fighting each other over access to spare parts on the eastern front. There's the famous quote from a German soldier that described fighting the U.S. Army as "Learning how a rich country wages war." Because GIs would call in artillery in on isolated targets, simply because the artillery had ammunition to spare.

Edited for readability, clarity, and to fix a typo.

 

[The Littlest Shitlord]

I think half the problem with Dobson is that he looks down upon "dudebros" and "jocks" who binge-drink to excess, especially in college. He can't even make himself drink booze, because the toxic male dudebros do, and he wants to put himself above all that. Plus I get the feeling Dobson's parents aren't all that into booze themselves.

Movieblob never had that issue; from all indications, alcoholism runs in the family and Blob's no exception.

Dobson is such a manbaby that he probably can't stand the sensation of alcohol in his mouth. I bet he doesn't even use mouthwash for this reason. Bob is slightly stronger (and as we can see, has a long history of putting disgusting things in his mouth) and as a result isn't put off by this, despite both being undiagnosed autistic manchildren.

 

[Captain Marvelous]

I'm going to history sperg here for a moment.

It wasn't that the bushido code didn't allow for the concept of surrender, or that they somehow thought they could pull a win out at the 11th hour. The primary concern was that the U.S. was calling for unconditional surrender. At this point, the objective for the military was to keep the Emperor in power no matter what, and if they surrender unconditionally that means the Americans might remove Hirohito, or worse: dismantle the royal house. This is why they were preparing to wage a truly horrifying war of attrition on the home islands. The goal isn't to win anymore, its to not lose. Send enough GI's home in body bags that Uncle Sam is willing to agree to terms. The A-Bomb+the Reds changed all that. Ironically enough the U.S. considered the idea of removing the Emperor, but realized they could never occupy the country if they did. So they had no plans to remove the emperor, but once you call for Unconditional Surrender, offering terms shows weakness.

Oh. Sorry, I got that wrong. Thanks for the clarification.

Never thought there'd be a discussion on war strategy in a forum about some schmuck on YouTube, but here we are.

 

[Knyttet]

Some people just aren't born with good looks, and there's plenty of truth to the Roald Dahl happiness is on the inside image from Witches.

It's actually from The Twits.

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

Slowly dying because the government said you weren't allowed to work and you can't afford to live is far superior than just dying you imbeciles.

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1316124931609030657

https://archive.vn/TqBmY

I guess you didn't have to worry about being unemployed Bob "Twice fired, once rehired" Chipman as you hadn't technically left home yet and thus had one hell of a safety net, oh and the economy wasn't shut down via gubernatorial edict with no due process you fucking mongoloid.

Bob admits what we've know all along. He's an arrested deveolped dipshit who somehow tanked AND peaked in high school.
The start

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1315810091787059200

https://archive.vn/41Qjr

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1316096232167792643

https://archive.vn/uYpLW

Spoiler: dose comments

No one likes you Bob. The only people that positively interact with you are mentally disturbed people who only like that you say all the stupid shit they're smart enough to not say and will not shed a tear for you when you get the axe.

Bob has read the thread and seen us pointing out how he's been flat out calling for killing people.

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1316104215815761922

https://archive.vn/Poq7P

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1315698541461942272

https://archive.vn/tcILm

See? He's not serious because he made them hypotheticals, you insipid retards.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

See? He's not serious because he made them hypotheticals, you insipid retards.

Here is my rebuttal to Ms. Antos' statement: I can think of two things, the American feminist and Bob Chipman.

 

[A Big Bumbling Black Man]

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100% pure projection, that take.

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

Again, Bob is reading the thread* and knows we're pointing out how he's publishing shit on his main that's supposed to go on his alt. It has nothing to do with the fact that no one really reads his alt and it's not verified.
*(HYPOTHETICALLY)

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1316158469129613313

https://archive.vn/Y6bFO

Spoiler: tweeted pic

None of your "job" is commenting on politics or the social climate you disingenuous cunt. But maybe I'm wrong. If I am, please explain to the class how "part of my work is news" means calling for the tactical bombing of red states and lying about why you're doing it because they voted different from you? Just to counter your human being argument, what if I'm angry on the other side? Am I suddenly a human being? I know the answer is a big fat NO, due to you being a disingenuous cunt.

 

[Halsey117]

"bombs win wars!!!!!"

Literally every conflict the US has been involved with in the past half century: "Please allow us to introduce ourselves..."

 

[ChefKiss]

He is indeed a villain, except he has to adjust his ideology so that he'll have someone in the world agree with him. There should be some sort of Kiwi Farms(tm) media we have where he's a villain of a sort, like a dumb Civ Modmod or even just a fanfiction.

Bob would make a shit villain. He's no Wilson Fisk, other than the fatness and balding. A good villain needs some level of charisma, personality, likability and a world view that while twisted is understandable to some degree. Bob would be a nameless thug who runs away when anything actually happens other than being part of a mob attacking people.