Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

[Jetpack Himmler]

So I woke up to an ad and I have my answer. We have made tolerance pretentious. We have sold tolerance as something of the elite and the educated.

When I was growing up, it was presented on TV as something for everyone. Everyone was capable of understanding and learning to love their fellow man. But somewhere along the road it flipped. Now media presents tolerance as something only the enlightened are capable of. In the case of the ad I woke up to. Something only possible for those who need to be tolerated. There is no more Gran Torino Clint Eastwood in learning to love his neighbor on his own terms. The only ones who know to love are the enlightened.

This is Bob. He has bought this completely. See, I can see the good intentions here. A little propaganda to show that tolerance is intelligence. But, Bob and his ilk see it as the only intelligence is tolerance and acceptance. And thus if you question or doubt you have no intelligence. And in Bobs case he presupposes. That people can just be prescribed as intolerant by their upbringing.

This is the cult we have created. This is how we have regressed in 20 years. Fuck this gay earth.

When you get down to the marrow of the matter, the only love people like Bob know is for themselves. Whatever compassion or tolerance they profess to show is merely performative and meant solely for their self-aggrandizement.

He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let him fool you: he's an idiot.

And sadly, spawned two more idiots.

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

Next thing you know, they're going to make robots who's only purpose seems to be getting drunk and stealing.

If Eddie Izzard is a ”she”, I'm Pope Francis.

I don't think you understand that opinions are a lot less formal than a lot of other things in the legal system - for instance, Saint Ruth of Planned Parenthood wrote some quite colourful dissents.

I agree. Someone once told me that there's a group of four congresswomen, made up of a Baptist, a Catholic and two Muslims. How obsolete is that?

 

[Brother Wind]

When you get down to the marrow of the matter, the only love people like Bob know is for themselves. Whatever compassion or tolerance they profess to show is merely performative and meant solely for their self-aggrandizement.

Well i think that plays into it a lot. Being "right" is their end game. I guess my theory needs more about them needing that victory. And an absolute victory at that. Which is why racism and bigotry can never be solved in their worlds.

 

[Adamska]

Not shocking Bob is retarded enough to try and defend Cruella. In the words of a friend of mine just listening to its summary:

"This is a horrible movie and I genuinely hate its existence."

Such a brainless believing hack who'd be gassed by his own political beliefs.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Not shocking Bob is retarded enough to try and defend Cruella. In the words of a friend of mine just listening to its summary:

"This is a horrible movie and I genuinely hate its existence."

Such a brainless believing hack who'd be gassed by his own political beliefs.

I mean this is the same man who defended Cuties thinking the only people who hated it were alt-right dudebros who wanted to demean black female directors.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

Well i think that plays into it a lot. Being "right" is their end game. I guess my theory needs more about them needing that victory. And an absolute victory at that. Which is why racism and bigotry can never be solved in their worlds.

It's more like an incredible corruption of the Maoist "perpetual revolution" concept. So long as there's something "wrong" they can pretend to be noble and be fighting for it. The fact lots of money sloshes into the outrage movements is purely conincidental. Totally.

Like if anyone takes ten seconds (or have the balls to have a proper report written like the UK govt did recently) then you know we're really on a general cultural cleanup operation in the West and widespread discrimination, and discrimination among government services especially was confined to the dustbin long ago.

But they can't have that because it means the money taps turn off, and many of these people who have built entire careers out of it, or want careers in it, will have to go out into the wider world with zero marketable skills other than "bitches loudly" and "can organise some arseholes to come scream and shout at you for a bit."

It's falling apart among a wider portion of the public, and its showing with the increasing backlash against "woke" happening in various countries.

Same as trying to go to the deep areas of the Rust Belt or the places addicted to hillbilly crack who's main industry fucked off to China and tell the white folks there that they're priviledged because they have White Skin and you'd wonder why the fuck you're waking up in a hospital 100 miles away. If you're lucky.

But right now it's in vogue (just like how Pride Month is now a corporatist shitshow that corporations didn't appeal to en masse until gay marriage was legalised at the federal level in the US, and the Marriage Equality act in the UK) so crowd followers have to go with it rather than experience an independant thought.

 

[Tronathon242]

Not shocking Bob is retarded enough to try and defend Cruella. In the words of a friend of mine just listening to its summary:

"This is a horrible movie and I genuinely hate its existence."

Such a brainless believing hack who'd be gassed by his own political beliefs.

For the life of me, I don't know how you can have this movie share a timeline with the live action version. It's a schizophrenic fit and the idea that Cruella's mom got knocked off a cliff by Dalmatians and died made me question if the writer was forced to come up with that idea at gun point. I seriously thought that Bob trying to defend it was beyond belief but having an honest to goodness attempt at justifying Cruella's desire to skin Dalmatians had me wondering if I had a stroke. Poor Walt, I'm glad he's not alive to see what his creation has turned into.

 

[John Carmack]

Silicone Valley predicted this a while ago

 

[The Valeyard]

For the life of me, I don't know how you can have this movie share a timeline with the live action version. It's a schizophrenic fit and the idea that Cruella's mom got knocked off a cliff by Dalmatians and died made me question if the writer was forced to come up with that idea at gun point. I seriously thought that Bob trying to defend it was beyond belief but having an honest to goodness attempt at justifying Cruella's desire to skin Dalmatians had me wondering if I had a stroke. Poor Walt, I'm glad he's not alive to see what his creation has turned into.

Not to mention that this was Anita in the 1996 version.


And this is the Anita from Cruella.

 

[Walrus and Carpenter]

Chris probably buys a 24 pack (there's 13 beers on display) stuffs as many in there as he can and then drinks them slowly.

It looks like this particular product sells for about $16 a 12-pack at discount package stores in MA. So he probably bought at least two packages. That $16 would have 60 cents in deposits added to it but no sales tax, good old Massachusetts.

https://www.totalwine.com/beer/specialty-styles/shandyradler/samuel-adams-porch-rocker/p/121466127?glia=false&s=1706&gclsrc=3p.ds&&pid=cpc:Core+Catalog+-+Shopping%2BUS%2BNEWJ%2BENG%2BSPART::bing::

 

[TerminalTryHard]

For the life of me, I don't know how you can have this movie share a timeline with the live action version. It's a schizophrenic fit and the idea that Cruella's mom got knocked off a cliff by Dalmatians and died made me question if the writer was forced to come up with that idea at gun point. I seriously thought that Bob trying to defend it was beyond belief but having an honest to goodness attempt at justifying Cruella's desire to skin Dalmatians had me wondering if I had a stroke. Poor Walt, I'm glad he's not alive to see what his creation has turned into.

I don't know, I feel like if you had a gun to your head you'd put more effort into then that. Maybe that's just me.

 

[Laughingjoke2]

Chris, Blobby and their ilk you gotta love it they're all for women, troons, and blacks until one disagrees with them then it's shut up and listen to the White Man.

As for the Ellie Kempler I think her name is thing. Jesus Christ she went to a High Society Ball and won when she was 19 and there was no blacks. It was a High Society Ball of course there was no blacks and it doesn't mean she was racist Blobby just unlike you she had an active social life as a teen.

Hell even if the thing is vaguely racist it's not like a 19 year old is reading that deep into it. I never realized as a kid that the fact the adults use to call the one public pool the Ink Well was racist. Until I was an adult and it dawned on "Oh yeah all the Blacks went there hence the Ink Well".

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

For the life of me, I don't know how you can have this movie share a timeline with the live action version. It's a schizophrenic fit and the idea that Cruella's mom got knocked off a cliff by Dalmatians and died made me question if the writer was forced to come up with that idea at gun point. I seriously thought that Bob trying to defend it was beyond belief but having an honest to goodness attempt at justifying Cruella's desire to skin Dalmatians had me wondering if I had a stroke. Poor Walt, I'm glad he's not alive to see what his creation has turned into.

Because Disney occassionally gets a "hey, this is a neat idea" from one of the drones before the corporate side sweeps in to feast on the corpse.

This happened with Malificent where they did a not-half bad job for why she was "such a dick" in Sleeping Beauty so after a few years they Corporate Machine is now demanding villain themed movies and thus all villains need a justified trauma to act like complete cockwombles.

So it appeals to people who think one event turned them into complete cockwombles instead of the fact they're just unlikable cunts regurgitating bollocks. Hence Cruella will be "amazing" and "brilliant" despite the fact it's hackneyed. Cruella is just hideously shallow

Cockwombles.

I mean, it's not like we don't have an original novel written in which it's fairly obvious most of Cruella's faults come from her being part of the champagne set and centuries of careful inbreeding has left her utterly sociopathic and intimidating to most people around her, and she's just irredeemably a bitch. If you told a proper, modern retelling of this she'd be a Champagne Socialist who professes to hate fur and thus everything of hers is "faux" when it turns out it's actually all real would be the cruel twist.

 

[Woe-B-Gon (TM)]

For the life of me, I don't know how you can have this movie share a timeline with the live action version. It's a schizophrenic fit and the idea that Cruella's mom got knocked off a cliff by Dalmatians and died made me question if the writer was forced to come up with that idea at gun point. I seriously thought that Bob trying to defend it was beyond belief but having an honest to goodness attempt at justifying Cruella's desire to skin Dalmatians had me wondering if I had a stroke. Poor Walt, I'm glad he's not alive to see what his creation has turned into.

I'm still not over that they had a character whose name is literally a feminized version of "Cruel Devil" and decided this was a person whose actions needed to be justified. It's not surprising they ended up at what could be called Moviebob's Moral: "It is reasonable to want a group to suffer for the perceived actions of a handful of their members, even if that handful are long-dead or not even aware of what they did."

Also, while I didn't see the film, Critical Drinker's summary seems to make it out that the only reason Cruella's mom is in a position to get dog-kicked off a cliff is because Cruella's behavior at school forced her mom into a corner. Is this so? I mean, the moral is bad enough, but add that on.... "I caused trouble that got my mom killed and that's OK. A dog did something that got my mom killed and as a result puppies must be skinned!" It goes from being merely madness to being narcissistic madness.

 

[Positron]

Also, while I didn't see the film, Critical Drinker's summary seems to make it out that the only reason Cruella's mom is in a position to get dog-kicked off a cliff is because Cruella's behavior at school forced her mom into a corner. Is this so? I mean, the moral is bad enough, but add that on.... "I caused trouble that got my mom killed and that's OK. A dog did something that got my mom killed and as a result puppies must be skinned!" It goes from being merely madness to being narcissistic madness.

Disney perfectly captures the zeitgeist: "Never mind I did the crime that led to a cop shooting me; the cop is racist so all cops are bastards!"

 

[TopTierHealer]

Not to mention that this was Anita in the 1996 version.
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And this is the Anita from Cruella.
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Caling it now. We will have a sequel that will be a soft reboot of the original where Anita is married to a black man and the only reason Cruella wants to skin puppies is because of her inherent racism because she sees black people as dogs.

(still a more realistic movie pitch than Moviebob has ever done)

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

For the life of me, I don't know how you can have this movie share a timeline with the live action version. It's a schizophrenic fit and the idea that Cruella's mom got knocked off a cliff by Dalmatians and died made me question if the writer was forced to come up with that idea at gun point. I seriously thought that Bob trying to defend it was beyond belief but having an honest to goodness attempt at justifying Cruella's desire to skin Dalmatians had me wondering if I had a stroke. Poor Walt, I'm glad he's not alive to see what his creation has turned into.

I must issue a correction here as Disney's 101 Dalmatians is an adaption of a book by Dodie Smith, but the 1961 film is more famous. Smith's book is notably different as Perdita is not Pongo's wife, but a runaway looking for her puppies after her neglectful owner sells them to Cruella. The film also omits certain characters like Cadpig (who was a main character in the 1997 animated series) and Perdita's mate, Prince, who was the 101st Dalmatian.

Another despicable thing about Cruella in the book is that she murdered her cat's kittens for her amusement.

Not to mention that this was Anita in the 1996 version.
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And this is the Anita from Cruella.
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I see the 1996 remake as a bit of a hidden gem as it introduced me to Glenn Close and Hugh Laurie. Close really knocked the role of Cruella out of the park.

 

[Quixotic Man]

This entire Ellie Kemper nonsense reminds me of how old American sports teams used to stick a certain good luck charm on their uniforms before some Germans started using it a lot. Apparently the Spooky Prophet Halloween Ball used the hoods and shit before the KKK ever did. Societies that are from the same time and place co-opt each others symbols and ceremonies. Just ask Joseph Smith about the relation of his secret temple ceremonies and vows and the free masons.

 

[Bolo]

For the life of me, I don't know how you can have this movie share a timeline with the live action version. It's a schizophrenic fit and the idea that Cruella's mom got knocked off a cliff by Dalmatians and died made me question if the writer was forced to come up with that idea at gun point. I seriously thought that Bob trying to defend it was beyond belief but having an honest to goodness attempt at justifying Cruella's desire to skin Dalmatians had me wondering if I had a stroke. Poor Walt, I'm glad he's not alive to see what his creation has turned into.

As it was said, 101 Dalmatians ain't a Disney's original story, as it was the case with most of its movies, it is a book adaptation. (I think Lady and the tramp was the only original script from Walt's era of movie)

And from what people have been saying, in the Cruella movie, by the end credits, the have scenes that lead people to belive that Cruella ain't really gonna skin puppies to make coats, and people should take the story as a alternative take on the character, at least that is the take most people are getting from the movie.

So yeah, Disney just spend about 200 million bucks to make a 101 fucking Dalmatians fan fiction, great job everybody.

Still, people seem to like the movie, I have a relative that is into fashion and she loved it, and the two main stars did a great job, so I don't have much to say, never cared about the animated movie either and never read the book.

Just find it funny that they made this whole build up of Cruella's character being this cool, clever, fashion punk rock persona, doing crazy stunts and being the most amazing person EVAR!, just so in a few years she is going to be outsmarted by a bunch of dogs.

But like I said, seems like this was a "elsewhere story" of sorts for the 101 Dalmatians cinematic universe I guess, so I don't think we will have Emma Stone being beaten by a bunch of Dalmatians, although it would be fucking hilarious to see this Cruella just being mauled by the dogs "I'm a woman, hear me AUUUGHHHH!!"

 

[Woe-B-Gon (TM)]

Societies that are from the same time and place co-opt each others symbols and ceremonies.

Ah, reminds me of a time my employer dragged us on a tour of a Buddhist temple (long story). Being a folklore and religion nerd, I knew what to expect and got to the front of the crowd so I could watch them as they walked in. Still confused about having to take their shoes off, they then got one hell of a surprise when they saw this big ol' Buddha statue with a swastika on his chest like he was some sort of superhero.

Everyone should get a chance to see their better-educated-and-won't-let-you-forget-it peers suddenly thinking they wandered into some sort of Nazi cult, it's quite the experience. Almost spiritual, I'd say.