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While these choices may seem good in the short run, they harm the show and the content it provides in the long run. Perhaps one of the biggest blunders of the show (and one that absolutely proves the theory that forced content is worse than natural content) is the inclusion of E celebrities. And no I don’t mean e celebrities who have a purpose to the show like stein or even hassle, although the latter performed poorly at his job imo. I mean the pointless inclusion of people like Brandon buckingham or Turkey Tom. They were there because they’re famous and that’s it. That’s the gimmick. It’s just a way to get the audience to go “OMG I KNOW HIMM!!!”
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Fully agree with you about E-celebs. Emplemon, Buckingham and Tom all were all forgettable and it just felt weird randomly bringing them on for a night. The only reason they were on the show was because they were friends with the crew. Buckingham showed up chugged liquor and attempted at creating content but failed. The only e-celeb they brought on who actually was entertaining was Alex Stein and the Dontarius.
 
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Not really Fishtank related but Jet and Chris are currently doing some dumb kayfabe shit in what one would assume is an attempt to generate attention towards the overdeveloped time and resource sink that is 'Mondo Megabits'.
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mondo megabits actually seemed interesting when I watched the explanation of it but it's literally an NFT with no clear advantage of being one. Also never actually found any video of someone playing it.
 
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Even when Letty is doing nothing around Toronto, she's still doing weird nothing.

Chris (or his manager) being homicidally cringe



Mentioned this before but Vance's streams have been on the up, he finally squeezed Rainier dry and is moving on. The prank calls have been pretty good, it's funny that he's consistent where if the person on the line manages to spark his sympathy he loses his nerve... except for last Sunday when he called a weed store pretending to be a gangster who wanted them to leave his "turf," then heavily implied that if they didn't close down he would show up there and kill people... I have to give him credit, for something, I don't know what, because his chat was going "this is a felony...." and he kept going anyway.

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Larp is over
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During Josie's member's stream she mentioned that she privated the VOD for the Wiggalations album release stream since she needs to make some edits. That probably means she's removing snippets. The only reason she'd need to do that is due to her guest, Morgen Rafferty.

Morgen Rafferty is a 20 year old man from Alabama. He's a part of Wiggalations29, an intentionally cringe group that focuses on cringe internet/meme music. CW1NG3 (kuh-winj) left the group recently but is who you will see most prominently in the Fishtank music video, Overjosing video and album art as the blue furry. Morgen is the school-shooter lookalike seen in the Fishtank video, though a clearer shot is provided below from The Bryler Initiative on the left. "Peep the hair" as Josie would say. He wears hats on Josie's stream.
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Here he is on stream introducing himself and Wiggalations29, though it took a super chat to get him to do it. He forgot the part where he uses AI to write lyrics.




Morgen's relevance begins with the the "Fishtank Josie Song," a cringe ode to Josie rife with Fishtank and Josie references. A few days after Fishtank ended, on June 2nd, Josie acknowledged that they reached out, offered to do a collab with her and that they had other songs she enjoyed. Josie live reacts to the song below, though it's not her first time hearing it. Notice Jet is unenthused.


Fast forward to August and Josie begins hinting that she's working on a song with someone. She initially says to expect it by the end of August but the end comes and goes and she says 9/11's stream will be special. She's excited to share "epic music" with her fans but Morgen and his pals are excited for a quick buck and to leech off of those same fans. During that stream, Morgen incidentally reveals he doesn't know much about Fishtank, Josie, or her community. CW1NG3 seems like he was the Josie loremaster and Morgen is left trying to fake his interest so she sticks around.

Some snippets covering Morgen's goals with this collaboration. All are as minimally edited as possible - silence intentionally left where relevant for pacing.

Use Josie's audience, including her obsessed 4chan /ftl/ bunch, to establish a niche following. He mentions "2 possibilities" but only covers 1. He goes on to say they will also rake in t-shirt money but it's impossible to clip appropriately.
The alternate possibility must be what we're witnessing where things backfire.


Using Josie to try to network with Jet, though Jet is clearly unimpressed as seen above and Morgen thinks Jet's music is "fucking dog shit" anyway and doesn't understand why Josie likes it.




Get Josie invested in future projects and thus her fans invested in Wiggalations. In the audio clip, Morgen says he wants to announce that Josie is a full member of Wiggalations.



Morgen's dox began on 4chan due to personal beef he has but he was also going to use "I've been doxed" as a bit on the stream. Not pertinent to the overall picture so not covered in detail in this post.

All of this ended up backfiring on him with Josie as collateral due to how terribly he fumbled the lead up to the stream, the stream, and even post-stream. He rightly has little respect for Josie's fans in private yet carries this disrespect onto the stream and expects to win them over.


He knowingly let a song slip through that ends in "nigga" and is fine if it's a problem for Josie's stream or his black girlfriend, Julia. He is of a mind that the right controversy can boost Wiggalations and that he can't be canceled since he pretends not to care.



Morgen makes fun of Josie's Fishtank whales buying an expensive plushie just for her to rip it up for the music video. He says someone spent $600, then $700 and laughs. Keep in mind that Josie designed merch for him to sell to her viewers and he's making fun of the viewers who spent hundreds on a plushie.
Josie notices his error and says she'll fix it, placating viewers who may care, but he can't help himself and remarks, "Eventually..."

Also note the super chatter's name at the beginning of that clip. "who's the blue guy" - parabones


The stream ends, Josie privates the VOD, and Morgen decides to keep at it, unaware the VOD is private. While she could give his channel access, a decent chunk of time passes and he remarks that she needs to unprivate it so it seems he didn't get special access.
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Morgen, upset with how things are going, decides that Josie must have been turned against him. There's speculation as to what happened on Josie's end but one name keeps coming up.
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The Wiggalations guys plus Julia, Morgen's girlfriend, want to ruin Parabones for reaching out to Josie. The DMs are confirmed in a rare Josie stream slip where Parabones shows up as the most recent Discord messages. This is also how Morgen was made aware and confirmed the news.
Not relevant to this story but you can see Letty (Chalk) is up there as well, which is nice.
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Morgen wants her ruined for this and is open to doxing, getting her socials taken down, and for her to be discredited in Josie's eyes. He intends to use 4chan to do this but claims he can't do it himself as he's banned and they're simply incompetent at this effort, not that it would or will work as intended. There's audio but there's no neat way to trim it and keep it coherent so I've had to fill in the gaps.

Morgen says they live rent free in Parabones' head and calls her a "stupid bitch."


Morgen says he's waiting on Josie to reply to his DMs about Parabones and that will be the deciding factor on Josie.


Morgen remarks that Julia is trying to get Parabones' social media taken down.


Morgen wants to know what Josie fans are talking about outside of 4chan. Spoiler: They talk about how much he sucks and how bad they feel for Josie


Julia is Morgen's black girlfriend but he wishes he didn't mention her to Josie after seeing some troll posts on 4chan about how Josie was "thirsting" for him throughout her stream.

Morgen mentions the trolls are getting to him and he's starting to think Josie actually wanted him. Some audio had to be cut but he thinks Josie may have lusted after him ever since he messaged her on Discord and he regrets introducing his girlfriend to her because it may have been advantageous to have Josie think he's single.


The initial DMs Morgen (DooDooFarto) had with Josie. If this is fake, then it's good.
Notice Josie's relatively quick response time of 37 minutes fresh out of Fishtank. She was very responsive back then which is contrasted by her notoriously long read times (marking as "seen") and even longer reply times among fans. Luke's notorious "Volume 5" stream chats are a testament to how nothing seems to rush DM reads these days and Morgen comments about slow response times as well in his own time.
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Throughout all of this, Morgen has a contingency brewing. Believing any news is good news, he begins to form a basic plot to paint himself as a victim of a rabid Josie fan. The short of it is that he needs to be somehow attacked or harassed by with basic video evidence. He would publish the evidence and his group would spread the word. Ideally, this would prompt a public reaction from Josie decrying her fans for being lunatics and possibly open the door back up for Wiggalations. Even better if a gossip channel (eg Turkey Tom) picks up on this and spreads Wiggalations' name further.

That is to say, Morgen will hurt Josie and her fans if it benefits him and his. Further, he wants Josie to side with him.

Pathetic plotting. Where ambiguous, assume "her" or "she" refers to Josie.




Morgen remarks that they've gained an establishment from Josie as is and don't need to keep working with her for that.


In an attempt to get some material together, Morgen gets the bright idea to bait 4chan via his Instagram. Unfortunately my insistence on getting the full res images meant I missed some as he took them down as I nabbed his posts. The important thing is he was baiting anons to debate him but this backfired as well since a Mr Heck associated anon is who "took the bait" and then offered some form of partnership.
I can't explain Mr. Heck "lore" all too well but they have been a staple of the 4chan Fishtank community for some time and keep the pot stirred. For awhile now they've enjoyed berating and demoralizing Josie's simps and are also responsible for Morgen thinking Josie was into him throughout the stream.
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The Bryler Initiative, featuring Morgen Rafferty.


  • Morgen went to Joeyy's concert and met Frank Hassle and Jon. He "rizzed" his way into the VIP section (lol) and brought Jon back there. He likes to make fun of Jon when telling this story and even does so on Josie's stream. I'll clip it in the stream summary.
  • The album art was done by Hyperbeam2k who Josie met in Rhode Island as an "extra." Presumably on the set of WP2. I'm not going to bother to look into this person but that is a noteworthy connection.
  • It's simple enough to find the names of those associated with Wiggalations for anyone who cares
  • Morgen is trivially easy to dox but seemed surprised when it actually happened
There's more but this post is long enough.
 
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wrangled tard said:
I wonder if this will be less successful than the last one like creator clash. I don't think I'll give enough of a shit to watch another season, maybe the first couple days. I feel like a lot of people will feel the same unless they really raise the stakes this time.
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This isn't season 2. This is the condensed form of season 1 that includes all the interviews and footage we didn't see during the live show.
 
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I think if I were Jet I would use exclusively interview and handheld footage as much as possible, it's what will be new content for the vast majority of people, avoids rehashing, and gets around the quality/sound issues. Probably easier to make a narrative too since they would've filmed important bits instead of fishing through 42 days of content.
 
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I was hoping Sam was going to be taking advantage of the writers strike for more fishbowl. SAD.

wrangled tard said:
I wonder if this will be less successful than the last one like creator clash. I don't think I'll give enough of a shit to watch another season, maybe the first couple days. I feel like a lot of people will feel the same unless they really raise the stakes this time.
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This is just a release of season 1. but if there was a season two, I'd make the following counter point: Creator Clash 2 didn't stream during a boxer's strike.
 
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My podcast is starting soon, and I already have 60+ people who want to be in on it. Sam Hyde graciously accepted my offer to be my first guest, for which I'm very thankful.
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Letty posting a good throwback to a night that we were just complaining about... Vance crashed upstairs with Letty after the worst night of the show. Letty says she's upset with him and TTS starts screaming at him to get the fuck out of her room, so he asks why she would be upset. Letty tells him she's upset with him because he said getting splashed with toilet water was karma. Vance defended himself by saying, hey, Frank shaved my head today!

Letty says, no, Josie shaved your head. Frank shaved my head, today.

That was the best part of the night IMO, as a high-end character scene, though there's no way it's making it into the doc. Vance refusing to leave the room while getting the worst hate he ever gets during the show and constantly re-initiating the conversation after long drags of silence because he's feeling guilty and desperate to win her mercy back, Letty torn between disgust with Vance but needing any human with ears to vent to... that was the only good part of the entire day.
 
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On PKA (a podcast ran by a degenerate shutin tranny chaser, an out of touch CNN autist boomer and a really funny guy named Taylor), Sam and Jet had said they'd like to do season 2 somewhere this winter.

I'm guessing they're releasing the condensed season 1 as a prelude to build interest back up before starting season 2, probably around January/February.
 
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Aidan said:
unfortunately I lack the chat
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Aidan said:
That probably means she's removing snippets. The only reason she'd need to do that is due to her guest, Morgen Rafferty.
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Not necessarily. VOD contains sections with door open. Family members visible.
 

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