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BananaSplit² said:
I do want to stress that a game attach rate this low has never been seen in a console's lifespan before, not even commercial failures like the Playstation Vita, WiiU, Dreamcast or Xbox360 even experienced this.
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I already touched on this before but the lower a console's sales, generally, the higher the attach rate is going to be. Looking at your chart a significant percentage of the top sellers are under six months old, ergo you just have to give it more time for them to build a sales base.
 
whatever I feel like said:
I already touched on this before but the lower a console's sales, generally, the higher the attach rate is going to be. Looking at your chart a significant percentage of the top sellers are under six months old, ergo you just have to give it more time for them to build a sales base.
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The top two selling games are pack ins and they are still selling that abysmally. That tells you all you need to know. Many Nintendo games will probably pass 1 million sales in six months. Gran Turismo, which is usually the best selling game on any Sony console it appears on, hasn't come anywhere close to breaking the 1 million mark, let alone reaching the mark of past games, and it was a pack in. If you've actually been paying attention to any of the monthly Famitsu charts that @BananaSplit² posts, you will see that time is really not a factor here. PS5 games sell like shit week in, week out. Most don't move anywhere near 10,000 copies a month. Even third party titles sell worse on PS5 than they do on the Switch.
 
The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
The top two selling games are pack ins and they are still selling that abysmally. That tells you all you need to know. Many Nintendo games will probably pass 1 million sales in six months. Gran Turismo, which is usually the best selling game on any Sony console it appears on, hasn't come anywhere close to breaking the 1 million mark, let alone reaching the mark of past games, and it was a pack in. If you've actually been paying attention to any of the monthly Famitsu charts that @BananaSplit² posts, you will see that time is really not a factor here. PS5 games sell like shit week in, week out. Most don't move anywhere near 10,000 copies a month. Even third party titles sell worse on PS5 than they do on the Switch.
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Yeah, because the Switch has such a bigger install base. PS game sales will pick up as install base grows. Also, doesn't Media Crate not count digital sales? Wouldn't effect PS5 vs Switch but would effect totals.
 
whatever I feel like said:
Yeah, because the Switch has such a bigger install base. PS game sales will pick up as install base grows. Also, doesn't Media Crate not count digital sales? Wouldn't effect PS5 vs Switch but would effect totals.
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Except, as pointed out, by @BananaSplit², that isn't what's happening. PS5 sales have picked up. Game sales have not. And, as you said, consoles with less units out in the wild tend to have better attach rates, which was true of the Wii U, whose game attach rate was downright insane. But that just isn't happening with the PS5. Games sell abysmally, even in proportion to the number PS5s out in the wild.
 
The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
Except, as pointed out, by @BananaSplit², that isn't what's happening. PS5 sales have picked up. Game sales have not. And, as you said, consoles with less units out in the wild tend to have better attach rates, which was true of the Wii U, whose game attach rate was downright insane. But that just isn't happening with the PS5. Games sell abysmally, even in proportion to the number PS5s out in the wild.
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Increased sales could partially be from people whose PS4s died, and that's the replacement. I'm sure PS4s are out of production now, right? So, if your library's on PS4, that's how you'd play it now.

And frankly, with such little difference between PS4 Pro and PS5, it seems stupid to buy a PS5-branded game when you could just get the PS4 version that'll either run identically, or download a free PS5 upgrade. Like, if you were to buy Octopath Traveler II, what on Earth could the PS5-branded version possibly do that the PS4 version doesn't? It already looks like a PS1 game with ugly post-processing filters.
 
Pissmaster said:
Increased sales could partially be from people whose PS4s died, and that's the replacement. I'm sure PS4s are out of production now, right? So, if your library's on PS4, that's how you'd play it now.

And frankly, with such little difference between PS4 Pro and PS5, it seems stupid to buy a PS5-branded game when you could just get the PS4 version that'll either run identically, or download a free PS5 upgrade. Like, if you were to buy Octopath Traveler II, what on Earth could the PS5-branded version possibly do that the PS4 version doesn't? It already looks like a PS1 game with ugly post-processing filters.
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PS4s are not out of production. Sony always longtails.
 
whatever I feel like said:
That fucker lasted like five years after Sony pulled investment in it.
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That's the thing, they pulled support too early and that caused an earlier discontinuation of the hardware than it'd otherwise have had. They did continue to produce it for 4 years after they stopped publishing games, which is sort of surprising enough I suppose.
 
The Last Stand said:
Even if you don't care about Call of Duty or Activision or MS, the fact that Sony is actively trying to sabotage a merger is nothing short of anti-consumer.
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This, in addition to MS giving out 10-year COD deals to every platform that asks, isn't looking too good for Sony or the CMA. Despite all this, and everything in this thread, I want Sony to continue to be the de-facto leader in console gaming. Makes everyone else try harder, as well as look 100 times better if their leaders have a modicum of respect and tact.
 
The Last Stand said:
Even if you don't care about Call of Duty or Activision or MS, the fact that Sony is actively trying to sabotage a merger is nothing short of anti-consumer.
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No, what's anti-consumer is Sony actively paying the competition not to put their games on their opponents platforms. Not to give Sony timed exclusivity or something like that. Just to straight up not port their game to a certain platform.
 
Sexyphobe said:
I want Sony to continue to be the de-facto leader in console gaming. Makes everyone else try harder,
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