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SSj_Ness said:
Damn, American comics look so fucking ugly.
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They really fucking are man. I pulled up a random Chainsaw Man page for comparison and it's like a universe apart. Chainsaw Man doesn't even have especially impressive art which is the sad part.

I mean what in the fuck are those facial expressions?
 
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Broseph said:
Can I be serious for a moment and ask: what do people actually like about the modern Sony games? Every Sony game made since The Last of Us has just copied that game's template over and over again. You move a character forward in a heavily scripted environment (tho I will admit the graphics in these games are very pretty) where you watch scripted things happen and respond by pressing QTE's. The combat in these games either revolves around you having a ranged weapon such as an axe or a bow and arrow or it's just another generic third person shooter. The game is constantly interrupted by cutscenes making you feel like you're watching a movie instead of playing a game. Every Sony game I played in the last ten years just felt like I was playing a reskinned TLOU. Hell the last Sony game that I was actually looking forward to playing was Uncharted 4 and even that game still had a shit ton of of that "cinematic walking" bullshit where you're literally walking around and pressing the triangle button to listen to some character talk...
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The platforming is what really kills them. There's just no chance of you losing because the character will never walk off the ledge. The shooting, although generic and not very fun, has a margin of error. In Sony games, platforming and puzzles exist to extend the duration of the games.
If you trimmed out the platforming/puzzle sections, the pretentious failed filmmaker storyline, and the copied & pasted bosses, God of Soy could be a fun 5 hour game.

Sony does this wonderful thing where they put more cutscenes than gameplay. Old games had this awful thing where you actually had to think for yourself and they didn't waste my time. I don't think I ever understood the story of a single videogame before Naughty Dog -all hail Naughty Dog- started pandering with cutscenes.
 
Sniperwoof said:
They really fucking are man. I pulled up a random Chainsaw Man page for comparison and it's like a universe apart. Chainsaw Man doesn't even have especially impressive art which is the sad part.

I mean what in the fuck are those facial expressions?
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Chainsawman is popular thanks to the insanity, the art itself is pretty mid for the medium standard. Look at any chapter with some action of Sakamoto Days or Dandadan to sew how absolutely shit western comics have always been, even in the gooddays when you account that they are monthly instead of weekly.
 
Personally I think it's very racist to blackwash an old established superhero, as it portrays Negro people as completely unable to have their own character unless a Caucasian man created it first. It's really too bad that Sony and Insomniac aren't willing to develop a nine-figure game starring Negro superheroes that started as Negros, like ISOM, and prove to us once and for all that race really doesn't matter.
 
ShitLurker said:
how absolutely shit western comics have always been
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This is kinda dumb. Mangatards forget that the Japs don't have to color anything. Western comics have always had a 1 or 2 people working on sketching and inking, and usually one of them was also responsible for coloring.
ShitLurker said:
even in the gooddays when you account that they are monthly instead of weekly.
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You neglect to mention that the same artists worked on multiple projects. In recent times, both Marvel and DC decided to maximize their output while refusing to increase wages... again.
Also, the Japs never had to mass produce manga as Western publishers do. They know that the nerds who watch anime will buy their mangas in bulk, so they are able to take their time. This is a privilege that Western artists never had.

Pissmaster said:
prove to us once and for all that race really doesn't matter.
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Race doesn't matter when corporations want to give popular European/American IP's to other races. Race does matter when the evil whitey voices a black character in a cartoon.
 
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Autistic Orson Welles said:
if Miles Morales is Spider-Man, why was the Miles Morales game called Spider-Man: Miles Morales and not just Spider-Man? And why wasn't Spider-Man called Spider-Man: Peter Parker?
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I like Miles Morales well enough, but I can't get over the fact that he's intended to be a black replacement for Peter Parker, and that's kind of where his character begins and ends. He also attracts all the wrong people, ie, people excited to see Spider-Man be black and nothing else. I will always have more respect for a character like Static Shock, Blade, or Cyborg, who are their own entities, than a race-swapped version of an existing superhero.
 
We already know that Insomniac is going to have Wolverine sacrifice himself at the end of his game and X-23 will replace him as "Wolverine" going forward. Also, there will be at least one tokenised lesbian character in the game, and when I say "lesbian" it will be a normally hetero character that they fagged up for that sweet ESG money and it will probably be either Rouge or Storm.
 
The Pulverizer said:
This is kinda dumb. Mangatards forget that the Japs don't have to color anything. Western comics have always had a 1 or 2 people working on sketching and inking and usually one of them was also responsible for coloring.

You neglect to mention that the same artists worked on multiple projects. In recent times, both Marvel and DC decided to maximize their output while refusing to increase wages... again.
Also, the Japs never had to mass produce manga as Western publishers do. They know that the nerd who consume anime will buy their mangas in bulk, so they are able to take their time. This is a privilege that Western artists never had.
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This all sounds like cope to me. Maybe Marvel and DC should take some lessons from the manga industry, which also has insane deadlines even with the lack of color. Hell, it's not uncommon for the animation studios to catch up with the manga artist and have to begin diverging from the story to keep a production schedule chugging along.
 
The Pulverizer said:
This is kinda dumb. Mangatards forget that the Japs don't have to color anything. Western comics have always had a 1 or 2 people working on sketching and inking, and usually one of them was also responsible for coloring.
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And? The illustrator is still working on a monthly schedule, that he has to have everything ready with enough time for the inker and colorer to do their thing doesn't change this aside from manga also having inkers. Also, in the Marvel and DC world the grand majority of the time, the illustrator does not do any writing work which is another load of their back, the guys from Image at least had to actually do that part.
The Pulverizer said:
You neglect to mention that the same artists worked on multiple projects. In recent times, both Marvel and DC decided to maximize their output while refusing to increase wages... again.
Also, the Japs never had to mass produce manga as Western publishers do. They know that the nerds who watch anime will buy their mangas in bulk, so they are able to take their time. This is a privilege that Western artists never had.
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And this I have to call bullshit, in my day I mostly remember George Perez, John Romita Jr, Salvador Larroca, Alex Ross, Madureira and Jim Lee, I don't remember a time when I followed their stuff where they would be doing multiple books at the same time outside of alt covers. Maybe they didn't have to since they were some of the more high profile, but I doubt by a lot they had the level of work your standard bugman is expected to deliver weekly, I've heard multiple times mangaka killing themselves on the drawing board, never heard this for comic book illustrators. Hell, some were lazy fucks like Madureira who coasted for way too long on the rep of his XMen run.

I will give credit where it's due, I was looking up some stuff from the ol greats I mentioned and this is great

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Thought the background is lacking, everything else is crisp and dynamic

And this ones have fantastic movement in them

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So I admit I was too hard on the comic book artists, but then I also see stuff like this

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Or this
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And remember these are weekly and well, what can I say, leaving aside the aesthetics preference that I won't deny I have, I see a lot more linework as well

And this is without looking into art from other regions, I have some passing knowledge of European comics but stuff from the Metabarons always impressed the hell out of me

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Though this is probably a much more unfair comparison since I don't expect the artist had a tight deadline and it would be closer to comparing it to stuff like Alex Ross which is absolutely fantastic, but something that needs to be done on it's own schedule.

Anyway, I'm going on a huge tangent now. Moral of the story is I can still find bangers in current day manga and European comics are independent enough that I'm sure there is somebody doing competent work right now if I bother to look into it that isn't just faggot comics. The superhero comic industry on the other has been dead for years now when it comes to any sort of artistic quality and I cannot but wonder what the good artists of that era are even doing at this moment, since comics clearly would not pay enough and I have no idea if they attempted any sort of solo projects distanced from the cesspool that is superhero comics.
 
In America, Wednesday is new comic book day. The two big publishers, Marvel and DC, each publish about 50 comics a month, which means about 12 comics each Wednesday. Individual titles are usually on a monthly schedule, although Marvel often likes to increase that schedule to biweekly for its most popular titles, during the summer and some artists work on a slower schedule, putting out one issue every two months.
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Do you realize the Japanese don't even release a fraction of that? They mass-produce anime instead. Please show me how your average anime looks like. Surely master race Japan can do no wrong and all the episodes look phenomenal.

The comic book industry is nowhere near as successful as it once was. The only hope of success for the average writer is a Hollywood executive putting their story on the table.
 
Sniperwoof said:
They really fucking are man. I pulled up a random Chainsaw Man page for comparison and it's like a universe apart. Chainsaw Man doesn't even have especially impressive art which is the sad part.

I mean what in the fuck are those facial expressions?
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>tranime
cringe

French Comix is better than both American animation and anime
 
ShitLurker said:
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Or this
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I don't really like manga art. The action is always too busy and you can't get a clear grasp of what's even supposed to be happening. The rest is generic anime characters staring at each other.
ShitLurker said:
I have some passing knowledge of European comics but stuff from the Metabarons always impressed the hell out of me

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European comics have a history of being more ambitious and the publishers tend to give them better timetables. They notably take chances with new IP's instead of dragging the corpses of superheroes around for eons.

Sniperwoof said:
The only French comic I've ever seen...
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Sounds like you are an expert on this subject. Please give us more valuable insight.
Sniperwoof said:
...panels of is that one with the nudist loli and her bear companion that used to get posted on 4chan all the time.
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How outrageous. Clearly the West must be nuked because someone made a mystery loli comic that you won't even link.
Thankfully, Japan has never used their manga books to make any pedophilic art whatsoever. What was the age of consent in Japan again? I keep forgetting for some reason.
 
The Pulverizer said:
Do you realize the Japanese don't even release a fraction of that? They mass-produce anime instead. Please show me how your average anime looks like. Surely master race Japan can do no wrong and all the episodes look phenomenal.
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.... what the ever living fuck are you on about? The last 13 days this is what has been "published" in mangaplus https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/manga_list/updated I count 73 fucking titles. This is from a SINGLE publisher. Yes, a good number of those are digital only, but you have 73 different mangaka writting and drawing this shit weekly. And you tell me 50 MONTHLY combining by DC or Marvel is supposed to impress me?! Or is it because they publish independent books instead of single big book compilations? The compilation model is what allows the industry to have a hope in hell where they can publish a lot of series and stick with what works and drop what doesn't, and anyway, that's Marvel and DCs problem that they wasted the resources to publish 50 independent books of fully colored shit, not on the artists themselves, They don't suddenly have fucking Dellaroca drawing 5 different books.

Maybe I'm being a dense fuck but what do you even mean with "published" or "released"
 
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