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NPZCC said:
Interesting.

I think cope like this is only possible if you think the rest of the voice acting in this game is good.

Do you think, aside from the hated scene, FFX has a good English dub?

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I think it was great when you consider the circumstances. Matching the lip flaps for a Japanese PS2 game wasn't easy from what I heard. It wasn't perfect, but it was as good as I think it could've been, which is quite serviceable.

The acting comes off as stiff and awkward sometimes, but Yuna in particular is kind of characterized that way anyway.

Here's probably the best scene to balance this out a bit. I think Yunalesca does an excellent job as a deranged goddess, and of course Auron's battle speech sounds epic.

 
NPZCC said:
Do you think, aside from the hated scene, FFX has a good English dub?
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That was par for the course for a Japanese game released in 2001. It's not good, but it's heavily nostalgic for those of us who played it when it was new. Like, I wouldn't want to play it with revised voice acting. Same goes for Shenmue, it'd just be boring if it weren't for the absurd, insane dialog and delivery.
 
SSj_Ness said:
I think it was great when you consider the circumstances
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SSj_Ness said:
quite serviceable
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Rofl.

My point is that the scene isn't really misunderstood, you have poor voice acting in a franchise that never had voice acting before, leading up to a scene where the main characters act even more obnoxious than they already are.

This ends up being a massive cringe OD for most people, which is the actual reason that scene is hated.

You can add any context you want, but the main characters acting like obnoxious retards is the main characters acting like obnoxious retards.

Pissmaster said:
That was par for the course for a Japanese game released in 2001. It's not good, but it's heavily nostalgic for those of us who played it when it was new. Like, I wouldn't want to play it with revised voice acting. Same goes for Shenmue, it'd just be boring if it weren't for the absurd, insane dialog and delivery.
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I don't even think they could do a "better" job voice acting that game. I've heard the voice acting for games like FF7R, BotW, and those Persona games and I'm not exactly blown away by them.

I'd argue that the voice acting in those games are almost the same level of cringe as FFX.

I think that if you traveled back to 2001 and made them strip all of the voice acting out of FFX it would be more fondly remembered today.
 
NPZCC said:
Rofl.

My point is that the scene isn't really misunderstood, you have poor voice acting in a franchise that never had voice acting before, leading up to a scene where the main characters act even more obnoxious than they already are.

This ends up being a massive cringe OD for most people, which is the actual reason that scene is hated.

You can add any context you want, but the main characters acting like obnoxious retards is the main characters acting like obnoxious retards.
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But it factually is misunderstood, according to the written script the actors were directed to follow. It literally calls for awkward, forced laughter, then Tidus & Yuna realize how goofy they are and have a genuine laugh together. That's the whole point of the scene, it's supposed to be cringe, their friends are even watching them and commenting to that effect.
 
SSj_Ness said:
But it factually is misunderstood, according to the written script the actors were directed to follow. It literally calls for awkward, forced laughter, then Tidus & Yuna realize how goofy they are and have a genuine laugh together. That's the whole point of the scene, it's supposed to be cringe, their friends are even watching them and commenting to that effect.
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No one is misunderstanding that.

The scene is running into this problem.

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SSj_Ness said:
Tidus & Yuna realize how goofy they are and have a genuine laugh together.
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Their "genuine" laugh together also sounds like awkward, forced laughter, though.
 
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SSj_Ness said:
Maybe not you, but it's commonly misunderstood.
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I think it's commonly misunderstood that this is commonly misunderstood.

SSj_Ness said:
it's supposed to be relatable
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Maybe some people just didn't have the chance to cosplay as Meg Ryan with half short-pant, half long-pant overalls and fake laugh with an autistic girl in front of all of our friends to let them know how cringe we are.
 

Furthermore, sales in Japan and Asia seem to have made up a big part of this momentum, as Yokoyama notes, “The game is incredibly strong in Japan. Sales in (the rest of) Asia are also quite strong, but the momentum in Japan is even greater than in the past.”
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Interesting tidbit of information right here and it's confirming once again my gut feeling that a lot of the old PS userbase in Japan moved over to PC and that the Japanese PC market is big enough now to carry lost sales from Playstation. Western sales of Japanese IPs tend to be way overestimated due of false opinions/views of Japan perpetuated by seething Sony fanboys.
 
BananaSplit² said:



Interesting tidbit of information right here and it's confirming once again my gut feeling that a lot of the old PS userbase in Japan moved over to PC and that the Japanese PC market is big enough now to carry lost sales from Playstation. Western sales of Japanese IPs tend to be way overestimated due of false opinions/views of Japan perpetuated by seething Sony fanboys.
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It'll be pretty funny if Steam Deck turns out to be the very first successful foreign console in Japan.
 
DocAwe said:
I thought the X360 did ok.
Mostly because MS basically let anyone & everything on the system.
Am I not remembering correctly?
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It did poorly, just not as poorly as other Xboxes.

They were fairly aggressive with deals on 360 to try to increase market share. For example Chaos;Head launched as a 360 exclusive.
 
BananaSplit² said:

Interesting tidbit of information right here and it's confirming once again my gut feeling that a lot of the old PS userbase in Japan moved over to PC and that the Japanese PC market is big enough now to carry lost sales from Playstation. Western sales of Japanese IPs tend to be way overestimated due of false opinions/views of Japan perpetuated by seething Sony fanboys.
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the reason is obvious, put more kson in everything!

I'm halfway joking, but pc being an open platform simply dunks on sony's walled garden in that regard. not only is your oshi playing on pc all the time (you could even buy their case, where's the hololive playstation?), you can't even play the fangames and other stuff that comes alongside it. also imagine watching your oshi on some small ass mobile screen and not some glorious 4k. shamefur dispray!
 
DocAwe said:
I thought the X360 did ok.
Mostly because MS basically let anyone & everything on the system.
Am I not remembering correctly?
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In the end, based on the public numbers we have, Sony kept producing the PS3 about a year after Microsoft stopped doing it. Sony manufactured about three million more units than Microsoft. Microsoft, however, absolutely annihilated Sony when it came to software sales.
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People might have bought more consoles, but they were usually “I buy a PlayStation and I play FIFA/COD/Madden” types. People were buying a lot more games on the Xbox 360.
 
Vyse Inglebard said:
People might have bought more consoles, but they were usually “I buy a PlayStation and I play FIFA/COD/Madden” types. People were buying a lot more games on the Xbox 360.
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Sports titles are things normies buy. Madden, FIFA, NBA, WWE, etc. are the big markets for normies who want to dip their toes into gaming, but only those and then CoD, Battlefield, Halo, Tom Clancy and Ass Creed
 
Baraka Obama said:
It did poorly, just not as poorly as other Xboxes.

They were fairly aggressive with deals on 360 to try to increase market share. For example Chaos;Head launched as a 360 exclusive.
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I remember reading about some creepy anime game called The Id@lmaster being #1 on the 360 charts in Japan all the time while #1 in America was like, Dead Rising or The Orange Box or whatever normal game was hot at the time.
 
Pissmaster said:
I remember reading about some creepy anime game called The Id@lmaster being #1 on the 360 charts in Japan all the time while #1 in America was like, Dead Rising or The Orange Box or whatever normal game was hot at the time.
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Those pedobait idolmaster games were (and are) huge among Japanese otaku. The 360 in Japan was a weeb machine since it had Japanese indie titles on XBLA that Playstation didn't allow on. And I think it had less censorship too?
 
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