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RandomGibberish said:
Meta Quest 3: Pretty cool games. No woke shit. Barely any microtransactions. Experimental stuff, Indie and AAA coexist. Focus on FUN! and not movie shit. Games cost $5-$20 on average.

If you want to escape from that hellhole that is called 'Modern Gaming' then ^this^ and emulators are the way to go imo
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Cons: Owned by Facebook, and it also suffers from a ton of the games being slop for kids (e.g popular game VR clone #23894 or gorilla tag clone #320814). Also, never touch VRChat. Just don't.
Pros: Android based, so sideloading other apps is a joy. Minecraft Java in VR without being tethered to a PC is insane. Ports to VR alone make it worth it for me, Resident Evil 4 being a big one.
I like the MQ3, but it's far from being the saviour of gaming. Definitely less bullshit than the other companies somehow, but its got its fair share of bullshit.
Mister Fister said:
Can someone tell me the point of these new consoles? They seem like gimped PCs with none of the advantages of a PC nor a traditional console.
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They basically are. The only reason why someone would buy a console now is because either their friends have them or they don't wanna move from the living room.
 
I've been seeing a lot of negative opinions on this board about how N64 or GameCube were uncool growing up, but at least in my experience as a kid everyone owned a PS1 or PS2 and played the popular games on it, but as a result that meant that if you were one the few who owned a N64 or GameCube you were the kid whose house everyone would go to play the 4 player party games like Smash Bros. and Mario Kart and Gauntlet Legends.

Dreamcast was kind of similar since it wasn't super popular but it had stuff like Sonic that your friends might want to play. I never knew anyone who owned a Saturn. I also never knew anyone growing up who owned an Xbox except a teenage cousin who bought almost every console and would just use it with his friends to play Halo. I know Xbox sold more than the GameCube in America, but I think GameCube was more popular than Xbox among those who were pre-teen kids at the time.
 
StacticShock said:
funny because in here N64 was the hot shit because of mario kart and mario party.
else PS1 was the second due to fifa and tony hawk.
saturn was the redhead stepchild and no one played/owned much of it outside sonic.

other than that once gamecube gen released PS2 was undisputed, xbox if you wanted to halo with the boys all night from fri to sat and gamecube was there in case you wanted to play mario party and metroid, that's it.
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Around me, most kids had Gamecubes with Melee and maybe Mario Party being the go-to games, a few had PS2s, and literally no one had an Xbox. The 360 was big, but I didn’t meet a single person with an original Xbox until the early 2010s.
 
marvlouslie said:
People like to suck the dick of the N64, but don't realize how actually fucking awful and limiting that system was, especially with the rest of the industry moving on with Nintendo stuck in the past.
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At the time maybe it was a slow drip, especially for single-player games, but the multiplayer stuff was evergreen, so people had fun playing the same stuff a lot like Smash and Mario Kart. I played Pokemon Stadium with my friends often.
 
marvlouslie said:
People like to suck the dick of the N64, but don't realize how actually fucking awful and limiting that system was, especially with the rest of the industry moving on with Nintendo stuck in the past.
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Agree. The only person I knew with an N64 was a fat, unpopular rich kid whose clueless parents bought him the shiny new console to show off on playground with. Except, most of us weren't retarded and bought a ps1 and burned our own games to share around.
moocow said:
Monthly Active Users" is a fun sleight-of-hand to make something look far more popular (and worthy of external investment by, say, venture capitalists) and tends to swell up the more it's fudged.
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Exactly. Reading the Sony forums is ace. They're all saying "MAU is more important than consoles sales because a console sale happens once, an MAU happens every month and gives more information about what players are doing". lol,lmao even. Imagine being so shilled, cucked, niggercattled or fucking retarded to believe MAU is a good metric or indicator of anything.
 
Bog-standard Poster said:
Imagine being so shilled, cucked, niggercattled or fucking retarded to believe MAU is a good metric or indicator of anything.
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Their investors might believe it if they'd been able to show those "active users" are repeatedly monetized. You can argue that's the case with WoW (at least prior to it going partially free-to-play), since you had to pay a monthly subscription fee to be an "active user." But a buy-once product (ignoring monetization) is a one-time bit of revenue.

Since they're not sharing data, we can't know for sure, but I'm confident a very small portion of that "MAU" figure is actually paying for microtransaction crap, so that can't possibly all be recurring revenue.
 
moocow said:
Their investors might believe it if they'd been able to show those "active users" are repeatedly monetized. You can argue that's the case with WoW (at least prior to it going partially free-to-play), since you had to pay a monthly subscription fee to be an "active user." But a buy-once product (ignoring monetization) is a one-time bit of revenue.

Since they're not sharing data, we can't know for sure, but I'm confident a very small portion of that "MAU" figure is actually paying for microtransaction crap, so that can't possibly all be recurring revenue.
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I agree with your point, so my reply is more toward the investors than you.

MAU means nothing, it's a worthless metric. It means that at some point in the month, a user logged on for an unspecified amount of time. They could have signed in to their psn when they accidently turned on their PS5, spent 1000 hours in Helldivers 2 or checked in, downloaded a free PSN game, played it for five minutes and bailed, never to play again for the rest of the month.

How anyone with a functional brain, at least to the cognitive level of being able to tie their own shoes, can look at the suggestion of using MAU as a valuable KPI and go "Yeah, this is a great idea", breaks my brain beyond comprehension. I know the competency crisis is real, but Goddamn, rich people are supposed to be at least somewhat intelligent.

OTOH, I hope all the industry chases the phantom KPI that is MAU and it leads to the dotcom bubble burst 2.0 like you said.
 
Bog-standard Poster said:
How anyone with a functional brain, at least to the cognitive level of being able to tie their own shoes, can look at the suggestion of using MAU as a valuable KPI and go "Yeah, this is a great idea", breaks my brain beyond comprehension. I know the competency crisis is real, but Goddamn, rich people are supposed to be at least somewhat intelligent.
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Most rich people are "lucky" rather than "smart." If even one shareholder had some brain cells to rub together, they'd be asking hard questions at the shareholders' meetings and screaming bloody murder about the obvious fraud. But they just buy & sell chasing that "line goes up!" high and leave it at that. And plenty of shares are held by managed funds anyway so the actual investor doesn't even have any direct involvement.

You're right though. It blows my mind that so many investors are this clueless. They're a big reason the market's so irrational. Nothing is valued or priced for what it's actually worth, and nobody even bothers to check anymore.
 
Sony is chasing MAUs instead of console sell throughs because they’re planning a PC launcher and want to count PC users as PlayStation gamers exactly like Microsoft does, it’s blatantly obvious at this point.
 
Bog-standard Poster said:
Agree. The only person I knew with an N64 was a fat, unpopular rich kid whose clueless parents bought him the shiny new console to show off on playground with. Except, most of us weren't retarded and bought a ps1 and burned our own games to share around.
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Is this a yookay thing? Every kid my age I knew except me owned an N64. Didn't matter how poor you were if you owned 3 games and got a rental every now and then.
 
Bog-standard Poster said:
Agree. The only person I knew with an N64 was a fat, unpopular rich kid whose clueless parents bought him the shiny new console to show off on playground with. Except, most of us weren't retarded and bought a ps1 and burned our own games to share around.
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Notice how many naval gazers disagreed or called my post dumb because I dare insulted their rose-tinted nostalgia.
 
StacticShock said:
saturn was the redhead stepchild and no one played/owned much of it outside sonic.
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the Saturn did not even have a Mainline Sonic Game, people really do overrate the 5th gen of consoles, N64 only had a handful of worthwhile Games outside of Mario Spinoffs which were really only fun if you had someone to play them with and theres was plenty of Slop on the PS1 also, the absolute state of vidya was almost as bad as it is today, the only thing you could really consider better about it was they didn't have the technology to flood the market with Live Service Slop
Bog-standard Poster said:
MAU means nothing, it's a worthless metric. It means that at some point in the month, a user logged on for an unspecified amount of time. They could have signed in to their psn when they accidently turned on their PS5, spent 1000 hours in Helldivers 2 or checked in, downloaded a free PSN game, played it for five minutes and bailed, never to play again for the rest of the month.
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to add on to this, most PS5 Users are turbo-normalfags who refuse to play anything that isn't CoD,Fortnite,or Sportsball, Sony is making money off of cuts from Microtransactions on the store, hell id even argue most people playing things like Spider-Man or God of War are playing it on a PC since they release them on Steam eventually maybe about 10% of people who own a PS5 play an actual single-player game and thats the generous estimate
 
I had a handed down genesis instead of a snes as a (very young) kid, and I didn't even know the saturn existed until after the dreamcast was already out. Didn't actually own any of the 5th gen consoles, but I knew people with both ps1 and n64, the saturn was utterly nonexistent. There's a reason that despite the dreamcast being available for less than half the time the saturn was, it had nearly equal sales. The only place in the world it was even neck and neck with the n64 was in japan, and the n64 somewhat famously underperformed in japan compared to its global sales, while the saturn got nearly 2/3 of its sales from that one country. If you didn't live in japan, saturn had no appreciable presence.
Caddo Cobgang said:
hell id even argue most people playing things like Spider-Man or God of War are playing it on a PC since they release them on Steam
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Disagree here, a lot of former sony exclusives do pretty terrible after going multiplat. How many times have you heard of some (ps3 or later) sony exclusive being praised and lauded as the citizen kane of gaming or any others out of the dozens of hyperbolic titles they crown them with, only to be hit with a resounding "it's ok" at best once it ends up on pc? Nearly every single temp exclusive on ps5 has gotten that treatment to at least some degree. If life of black tiger had a larger marketing campaign behind it, you'd still hear sony roaches crowing about how it's one of the most underrated gems of the last couple generations.
 
Caddo Cobgang said:
the Saturn did not even have a Mainline Sonic Game, people really do overrate the 5th gen of consoles, N64 only had a handful of worthwhile Games outside of Mario Spinoffs which were really only fun if you had someone to play them with and theres was plenty of Slop on the PS1 also, the absolute state of vidya was almost as bad as it is today, the only thing you could really consider better about it was they didn't have the technology to flood the market with Live Service Slop
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Can't agree. When people think of "slop" on consoles that old they're going to think of no budget bargain bin trash. When people complain about "slop" now, they're talking about the big AAA releases. Really, just look at the terminology. People used to call games like that bargain bin games because they were games no one wanted and so ended up in bins for super cheap. The games people are talking about now are highly advertised and keep a high price unless it's so catastrophically bad the publisher basically needs to give it away. People talk about "slop" so much now because of the general feeling that many AAA games coming out are technically not bad, but are just completely unremarkable. That's not something people felt about big games in the past.
 
Ex-PlayStation Boss Believes $70, $80 Games Are a Steal.

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A multi millionaire telling regular folks to be grateful :story:
 
Hermiöne Granger said:
Ex-PlayStation Boss Believes $70, $80 Games Are a Steal.

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A multi millionaire telling regular folks to be grateful :story:
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Shuhei is a world-class troll. He was passed over for CEO for playstation, his games were cancelled by Hulst, he was critical of the direction that Playstation were going in.

He has, with some class and charm, slagged Playstation off for, what I believe was a "jump or you're pushed" moment. He was old school Playstation and the new managers like Hulst and Druckman want people like Yoshida gone.

This is him saying "Fuck playstation, make your games expensive as fuck so I can watch your company burn".
 
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