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Valve is working on the Deckard, which is a standalone VR headset that can play any normal game in a virtual theater. Presumably a Steam Deck 2 will happen after chips get substantially better so its not just an incremental upgrade, which Valve even said as much.
 
Nintendo sells it at a profit instead of a loss
I mean, that's just not true, unless you think that because the cost of parts is under msrp that it's sold at a profit. From the retailer's cut alone, it's above $450, nintendo generally prices hardware to be at a loss, but break even with 1 first party game sale. Sony also doesn't have the luxury to sell it at an extreme loss, their profit margins are in the dirt, and the new boss over the division from corporate specifically cited part of her plan was to cut costs and increase profitability of launches. Sony's not about to sell it at a $350 loss after that.
 
We have a shocking amount of evidence in this thread that says otherwise.

Sony has this tendency to make incredibly stupid decisions. Them making a handheld cost over a grand would be on brand for them.
The most expensive part of a handheld is the Chip itself. Screens aren't really expensive since they've drastically come down in price with the emergence of smartphones and tablets.
I mean, that's just not true, unless you think that because the cost of parts is under msrp that it's sold at a profit. From the retailer's cut alone, it's above $450, nintendo generally prices hardware to be at a loss, but break even with 1 first party game sale.
This article was from 2017, even during that time it wasn't expensive to make a small tablet with an outdated 2013 SoC and controllers. Nintendo started making profit on their consoles beginning with the Wii, the Gamecube was the last console that was adhering to the traditional loss leader rules.
With the Switch 2 costing 450 Dollars Internationally they're bringing home double the revenue of what the Switch 2 costs to sell domestically, which is around 330 Dollars and is likely the actual cost of manufacturing.
Valve is working on the Deckard, which is a standalone VR headset that can play any normal game in a virtual theater. Presumably a Steam Deck 2 will happen after chips get substantially better so it's not just an incremental upgrade, which Valve even said as much.
Again, I doubt the existence of a standalone VR headset when the codename is after a Bladerunner character which for all intents and purposes sounds like a coincidence from some guy stirring up baseless rumors and unintentionally extending the name of the "Deck" to "Deckard"
 

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Again, I doubt the existence of a standalone VR headset when the codename is after a Bladerunner character which for all intents and purposes sounds like a coincidence from some guy stirring up baseless rumors and unintentionally extending the name of the "Deck" to "Deckard"
Its a code name, the controllers are Roy (as in Batty), its intentional. A ton of details have leaked such as design patents, and even a ton of stuff like actual controller models were leaked in a SteamVR update, also ARM compatibility layer stuff in Proton, which could be massive. It's real, it just won't actually be called Deckard when released.
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All I can say is that if you think Sony, the company that just released a pro console that offers jack shit over the base model other than "muh ai" for $300 more and has only INCREASED its price since then in most countries, are going to release a handheld more powerful than the rog ally x, which will cost 899 european funny money bucks and is speculated to be $1000 usd, and this Sony handheld is going to cost $400? I have a bridge you might be interested in purchasing.
 
All I can say is that if you think Sony, the company that just released a pro console that offers jack shit over the base model other than "muh ai" for $300 more and has only INCREASED its price since then in most countries, are going to release a handheld more powerful than the rog ally x, which will cost 899 european funny money bucks and is speculated to be $1000 usd, and this Sony handheld is going to cost $400? I have a bridge you might be interested in purchasing.
Sony is in the business of selling billions of third party games, not selling low volume overpriced hardware that 10 people in total will buy.

Your logic is completely flawed.
by the way the ZOG Ally X which has a premium of 300€ over the normal one only has a slightly better chip with a die thats barely larger and barely more expensive to manufacture.
Not sure why you’d cherry-pick the most outrageously priced handheld when the Steam deck (which I own and was sold at a loss in 2022) is comparable in performance and costs half the price.
 
The platinum completion is really negligible and a rounding error if we're talking about standard game completion. Doesn't change the fact that PS users have 5 times more completion rate compared to Steam. If console is the baseline then it's fair to assume Horizon Zero Dawn was enjoyed more by Steam users than PS4/5 users, since they both have the same completion rate.
>playstation has hardly any games
>surprised sonycattle plays the little they have more

comparing titles is shortsighted, pc players for starters aren't getting cucked by their platform holder and have games going back 4 decades. meanwhile you better hope sony/ms/nintendo will "remaster" that previous-gen game which would run perfectly fine on current hardware otherwise. if pc players wanted to play open-world slop, ubisoft's whole asscreed back-catalog will do the trick on it's own.
to come close to something even resembling an equal comparison you'd have to compare completion rates across all games vs playerbase.

might as well post bloodborne numbers.

Sony is in the business of selling billions of third party games, not selling low volume overpriced hardware that 10 people in total will buy.
psvr2 says hello.
 
>playstation has hardly any games
>surprised sonycattle plays the little they have more
I don't know why you think playstation has no games when the catalog is identical to Steam minus the match 3 porn games and pixelshit shovelware
comparing titles is shortsighted, pc players for starters aren't getting cucked by their platform holder
Im surprised you didn't get the memo 6-7 years ago when Epic was buying exclusivity to their storefront while giving away free games yet Steam users wouldn't budge or bother signing up
and have games going back 4 decades. meanwhile you better hope sony/ms/nintendo will "remaster" that previous-gen game which would run perfectly fine on current hardware otherwise.
I don't think that's much of an issue to either 1) Idorts or 2) normalfaggots on console with steam on their laptops.
if pc players wanted to play open-world slop, ubisoft's whole asscreed back-catalog will do the trick on it's own.
to come close to something even resembling an equal comparison you'd have to compare completion rates across all games vs playerbase.
That's not really accurate because shovelware plats on PSN/puzzle porn games on steam can both be completed in minutes meanwhile paradox/civilization/strategy games have 700 trophies each so no one bothers to complete them and on the console side you have cod&fifa selling 50 million copies annually for the multiplayer and no one caring about completing them.

The only good analysis you can do to compare the platforms is a mainstream game like GTA 5, Fallout 4, MGS5, RE7/2
Please don't move goalposts by saying MGS 5 is kojimaslop full of filler and GTA 5 is woke
might as well post bloodborne numbers.
Soulslike also has a higher completion rate on PS so to me it sounds like you want to move the goalposts because a lot of Steam users do shopping sprees during the winter/summer sale and never bother playing the game so it rots in their libraries.
 

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Valve had said it will take a while to release a second Steam Deck, but let's hope that they were lying, or something, or this will force their hand for something fresh sooner.
The first Steam Deck was launched in February 2022, so it's just over three years old now. Valve's got some time before these new portables his the market, and they can afford to launch a Steam Deck successor last in that "generation," especially since the Switch 2 is a known quantity and both MS and Sony are practically guaranteed to produce overpriced pieces of shit because they seem deathly allergic to making intelligent decisions. Valve can afford to wait for their competitors' consoles to drop, tweak their own hardware as needed and then go full-blast on a product launch of a superior console.

It's also worth noting the Steam Deck continues to improve through software updates as well; unlike the regular consoles where the graphics drivers and OS are practically locked down, SteamOS (Linux w/shiny on top) sees routine updates that update drivers, improve performance of existing titles and add support for more titles. It's a better console now than it was on launch, and that's without a hardware refresh. The other consoles can't really claim that; the only thing close to it is the much-vaunted backwards-compatibility the other consoles promise but only partially deliver, and gain titles over time. I haven't seen/heard of any updates for any of the those consoles that improved performance across the board though.
 
The entire series? How much of that is Forbidden West? How much of that is the VR spinoff? How much of that is the fucking LEGO game? I'd bet most of the sales came from Zero Dawn, and anything after sold like shit.
Microsoft already confirmed that the next Xbox is going to be running an optimized version of Windows under the hood but with a console like interface.
It isn't already? Xbox's graphics API is DirectX, which is Windows exclusive. Are you telling me that it's going to be more like Windows to the point where I can open shit like the Task Manager?
I highly doubt there's a second one coming out.
Valve tries to wait for a good chip upgrade from AMD. Considering that the Switch 2's hardware is already old, 8nm while Steam Deck OLED, PS5 Pro, is at 7/6nm, while that doesn't mean too much to most normies since raw power is way better it means that it's way less efficient on battery. I think we'll get a Steam Deck 2 maybe 2 years after Switch 2.
PC players cant access graphic card settings because age restriction, there goes the 'NOT' being cucked :story:
The "Nvidia App" is for driver updates and automatically changing game graphics settings, Nvidia Control Panel is still seperate. Still hilarious that you need to send your ID to... know when you need to update your drivers?
 
The "Nvidia App" is for driver updates and automatically changing game graphics settings, Nvidia Control Panel is still seperate. Still hilarious that you need to send your ID to... know when you need to update your drivers?

With the online safety act going on, and it gets more and more ridicules. We might need a new thread called 'Windows PC Gamers hate thread' i think.
 
It isn't already? Xbox's graphics API is DirectX, which is Windows exclusive. Are you telling me that it's going to be more like Windows to the point where I can open shit like the Task Manager?

It is going to straight up be able to run native Windows PC games out of the box, even your Steam library.
Their approach now is making Xbox a shared ecosystem, not a single piece of hardware. It would be interesting to see if they'll include a desktop mode like Valve does with SteamOS.
 
if sony can make a handheld that isnt the remoteplay one they made a while back, like an actual handheld thats weaker than a ps5 and more on par with a ps4, and it can still run the ps5 games on it albeit at weaker fps, and they make it about as expensive as the most expensive option for the steam deck, i'd probably buy it because the idea of being able to play the console games on the go and they not be weird versions made specifically for a handheld like they used to do is a novelty idea id make use of like a steam deck (i dont have a steam deck but im working on obtaining one sometime in the future)
 
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