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Smaug's Smokey Hole 2 said:
The only people that are happy about digital only is PC gamers/steam users. Let that be a warning.
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It's not about being "happy" about it, it's more like being realistic. Obviously PC has been mostly digital only for ages now(who the fuck even has an optical drive these days? Most people didn't bother to get a blu-ray drive even when they became commonly available), but that's beside the point. Games sold on disc for Sony and Microsoft haven't been playable for ages.

Partial installers, early beta versions that need a day 1 50GB patch to be playable, sometimes only containing an installer and needing a 150GB download for the entire game. It's a waste of printed media since the media doesn't amount to shit. The moment the download services for those consoles go offline, unless you've already got the game installed and playable on a system, those discs aren't going to do anything. Nintendo with the switch 2 was finally open about what Sony and Microsoft have been doing for years with their digital download cartridge nonsense. It's been this way with Microsoft and Sony since the ps4 and xbox one. Hell, it was obvious they wanted to do this shit when the game publishers for a year or two decided to put the equivalent of CD keys in the cases, that you needed to activate to get the online functionality and re-buy if you bought a used copy of the game.

Now will going to digital only(even though it may as well have been for 2 generations now) mean any savings for the consumer due to not having to press discs, produce cases, print the inserts, and ship the crap around? Of course not. Will it finally put an end to the "muh physical media" that's functionally useless? Yes.
 
I'm friends with dav1d_123, who was the top trophy hunter until his PSN account was stolen by PS Chat Support getting phished in Oct 2025, "recovered" a month later, and now it's been permabanned this week because he refused to delete his X post exposing the attacker, "Nich" (nich.legend / NichTheLegend).

His account was fully secured leading up to the attack, but that doesn't matter, because you can steal anyone's PSN account using just their public-facing PSN ID. More info: https://psn-security-incidents.org/intelligence.html

I've been in the trenches for months trying to help him recover his account. We filed a BBB complaint last year and got in touch with Anthony Rodriquez (PlayStation® Senior Corporate Resolution Coordinator), but he was fucking useless and did nothing to secure the account, ghosting us when we pressed him requesting real security measures.

I could write a lengthy thread detailing this, but I don't think it'd change anything. Just wanted to vent a bit. If anyone wants to learn more, check the linked X post and this document we shared with PCMag for a recent article they wrote.
 
Hermiöne Granger said:
This is why you should never let your option be digital only, and never stop buying games on disc. Owning your media is more important than ever.
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The ability to own physical games is really the only reason I still want a console. I bought the PS5 disc version at the time because it was all they had in stock at Walmart, but the more money I spend on steam where I mainly play games the more I resent the concept of a digital library.
 
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Hermiöne Granger said:
Anyway so far i remember she wasn't anything special in the Until Dawn game. So who knows why Soyny have her on the womans day picture.
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They released a pointless remake of Until Dawn that was worse in every way and sold ten copies.
Sony has so many forgettable flop releases people actually forget them, even though it was one of their only single player releases
 
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Smaug's Smokey Hole 2 said:
The only people that are happy about digital only is PC gamers/steam users. Let that be a warning.
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because pc mustards remember shit like starforce and are smart enough to backup their non-drm or even cracked shit onto MUH PHYSICAL media instead of paying more for a walled garden that turns all your games into paperweight the moment the hardware dies...
 
p1138 said:
It's not about being "happy" about it, it's more like being realistic. Obviously PC has been mostly digital only for ages now(who the fuck even has an optical drive these days? Most people didn't bother to get a blu-ray drive even when they became commonly available), but that's beside the point. Games sold on disc for Sony and Microsoft haven't been playable for ages.

Partial installers, early beta versions that need a day 1 50GB patch to be playable, sometimes only containing an installer and needing a 150GB download for the entire game. It's a waste of printed media since the media doesn't amount to shit. The moment the download services for those consoles go offline, unless you've already got the game installed and playable on a system, those discs aren't going to do anything. Nintendo with the switch 2 was finally open about what Sony and Microsoft have been doing for years with their digital download cartridge nonsense. It's been this way with Microsoft and Sony since the ps4 and xbox one. Hell, it was obvious they wanted to do this shit when the game publishers for a year or two decided to put the equivalent of CD keys in the cases, that you needed to activate to get the online functionality and re-buy if you bought a used copy of the game.

Now will going to digital only(even though it may as well have been for 2 generations now) mean any savings for the consumer due to not having to press discs, produce cases, print the inserts, and ship the crap around? Of course not. Will it finally put an end to the "muh physical media" that's functionally useless? Yes.
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I wonder how many people think that their 8th gen and up discs would still allow a fresh install/usage even when the servers go down? They were really smart boiling the frog on that one (similar to the even worse issue of buying a game only for it to be just a license and it ceasing to exist altogether when the game’s servers get pulled, especially if it’s just being a singleplayer game, á la The Crew). Maybe with SKG they’ll tackle that issue as well.
 
Jarch6 said:
I wonder how many people think that their 8th gen and up discs would still allow a fresh install/usage even when the servers go down? They were really smart boiling the frog on that one (similar to the even worse issue of buying a game only for it to be just a license and it ceasing to exist altogether when the game’s servers get pulled, especially if it’s just being a singleplayer game, á la The Crew). Maybe with SKG they’ll tackle that issue as well.
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There's probably a lot of people that have never bothered to test it simply using a "fresh" console with no internet connection and just hope it'll work. If we were still in the era of the ps3 and xbox 360 where the games actually were on the disc, great(but even then toward the end of that generation it could still be a crapshoot). And yes, perhaps SKG could help with that as well. Once Sony and Microsoft eventually drop support for the ps4 and xbox one... you'll have a bunch of bricks unless they happened to be patched up to date with the games installed before the online services get shut down. And it isn't like Sony and Microsoft are obligated to keep that running forever(yet).

It really is crappy design, and yeah Steam could pull the same shit once Gabe dies and someone else takes over the company but at least with that there's no one buying physical PC games at this point and pretending those discs would have anything meaningful on them(also could you imagine the installers for something even on DVD with game sizes these days? "Please Insert Disc 12").
 
Jace on ice said:
This year's happy international woman's day tweet. Grace Ashcroft isn't awful looking so we have at least one woman who isn't a scowling brick faced monster.
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>No Kat or Eve
As to be expected. Can't have too many attractive women or the troons might get upset! Speaking of people getting upset....
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"Some people frame [Sony's PC pullback] as a response to Xbox, but I’m not convinced that’s the real driver," wrote Dalton on X. "A more interesting possibility is the rise of a Steam-based console ecosystem." After all, why do people buy consoles instead of PCs? They're (usually) cheaper, easier to figure out, and low-maintenance. But now Valve's come along with devices like the Steam Deck and Steam Machine and started blurring those lines. Dalton continues: "If Valve releases a new Steam console that provides a console-like experience while still giving players access to the entire PC game library, that could become a very compelling option. If Sony were releasing all of its games day-and-date on PC, the Steam console could effectively offer the best of all worlds: console simplicity with the full breadth of PC gaming."
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moocow said:
I "love" how their fix for the PS3 keys getting leaked because of their own incompetence was to just remove the Other OS option from the system entirely rather than just fixing their shit. They've been idiots for decades now.
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Never forget:
 
Vyse Inglebard said:
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As much as Valve's efforts with the SteamOS ecosystem have improved Linux and offered a viable alternative to Windows for PC gaming, they simply aren't interested to scale hardware distribution to a mainstream retail audience like Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft already have. The Steam Deck was successful as a niche product for Steam users. According to reports and data gathered by Valve, over 90% of Steam Deck owners were already Steam users, it barely attracted new clients to the Steam ecosystem and it makes sense because outside of a few retailers in Asia, the device could only be bought directly from Steam. Valve sold an estimated 4 million Steam Decks in 4 years, Nintendo sold that many Switch 2 units in over 4 days.

The Steam Deck is now out of stock, showing Valve just doesn't have the capacity to produce and have a stock to outpace the likes of a seasoned electronics manufacturer. The Steam Machine was supposed to release "early" 2026, and we still we don't even have a price, there is zero chance it'll be sold in any numbers that'll rival the PS5 install base and God knows how much it is going to cost taking into account the current RAM and storage shortages, it is doubtful Valve would sell the hardware at a loss. The excuse that Sony has something to fear from Valve doesn't add up, it is more like Sony is finally realizing that their console needs exclusives to be an appealing product. Nintendo's entire business relies on exclusives, nobody would care about their hardware if it weren't because of its exclusives.

The entire gaming hardware landscape is going to enter a state of flux and uncertainty because of the AI data centers throwing a monkey wrench into the works. It is going to be a numbers game on who can offer intrinsic value and actually deliver a product to store shelves. Nintendo is the best positioned one because their hardware uses less storage and memory than their competitors so they can do more with less.

Valve cannot "win" a console war because they are not capable nor interested in fighting one.
 
p1138 said:
could you imagine the installers for something even on DVD with game sizes these days? "Please Insert Disc 12").
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Maybe if they actually had to pay for the discs they wouldn't bloat their shite so much and there might be some attempt at optimization
 
ChefKiss said:
Maybe if they actually had to pay for the discs they wouldn't bloat their shite so much and there might be some attempt at optimization
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The problem is people want 4k textures, everything with voiced dialogue, etc. That shit takes space. Otherwise you get the issue that I mentioned with consoles where only half the game is on the disc if that. No amount of optimization is going to get a 100+ GB game to fit on a single DVD for PC and no one bought blu-ray drives.
 
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