Spacebattles, and its offshoots - Who would win? A bunch of autistic nerds or a site and its tranny jannies?

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OP has been updated with more pictures I found funny, and information regarding a quest on Sufficient Velocity, specifically the Long March. I apologize for the incredible delay, but I suck at searching for this shit, nor do I honestly have the patience to sort through it all. I am almost ready to request this be sent to Community Watch, but I want to find more SpaceBattles CrW bullshit.

I'd like to help the thread get further off the ground, but I don't know much about the likely autistic drama that the site does have. I'm sure everyone with a brain would know that QQ has some disgusting degenerate shit going on like all the other sites that allow for NSFW messes.
I guess I can point to one of the times where one of them got a little too degenerate on spacebattles itself though, from this guy's thread: https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/breaking-fate-a-type-moon-quest.600170/.

A part of the creative writing side of spacebattles are quests, which were originally called their own injoke term called BROB before the better term was imported from /tg/. These are essentially fanfics turned into an video-game by the author or QM. This is a match made in heaven for SB, where the writting side and the powerscaleing numbers autism collides together. Along with of course the touch of selfish "I can do better than any of the characters in that book series!" that drives them to try and maximize power. An interesting holdover from that autistic series of fanfics of harry potter called rational.

Back to the point, this quest has it all. A main character who's got some overpowered ability that lends well to the big stat numbers autism. Big deal, I've read a few of these quests and this is a dime a dozen. But notice the thread itself is locked. Why, one may ask?

Simple. It stars a 10 year old minor that the QM decided to put in a relationship with a girl in her late teens, while implying he reads dirty magnazines. From what I recall (since I don't want to go into the thread and read this crap) the latter happened later but the former was something that got established about midway. Now of course this was eventually caught and reported on to the mod team but this shit still went on for almost 400 pages.
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I did some reading through the thread, sadly the actual stuff was deleted, but I did find this gem of a post which probably is enough.
 
Note though that QQ's no politics rule was made during the TRUMPF! days, so I dunno. Also I dunno if any of QQ's quests is worth watching.
 
QQ's no politics rule automatically makes it the best because the mods there enforce it harshly and against all sides.
They made an exception for the coof and cracked down hard on people who were anti-clot shot while allowing pro-clot shot people to say basically whatever they wanted.
 
The Long March is so horrible that it manages to evoke the same emotions in me that listening to Kanye West's new song does.
Long march is probably in the top 10% of web original alt history works
Alt history community rightfully likes to dunk germaboos but when it comes to their favourite side they glaze it like it’s a donut
 
I believe this section:

Sufficient Velocity (SV) (April 21, 2014)
Founded April 21, 2014, originally as a lifeboat for SpaceBattles due to site instability.​

is incomplete. SV was founded because certain members of SpaceBattles were upset over the demodding of Thanatos/Athene (the polyamorous MtF tranny supermod of SpaceBattles) on April 19th, 2014.

Evidence:

forums.sufficientvelocity | archive

Here is where the mentioned demodding occurred:

forums.spacebattles | archive

And here's a retrospective:

forums.spacebattles | archive
 
I believe this section:

Sufficient Velocity (SV) (April 21, 2014)
Founded April 21, 2014, originally as a lifeboat for SpaceBattles due to site instability.​

is incomplete. SV was founded because certain members of SpaceBattles were upset over the demodding of Thanatos/Athene (the polyamorous MtF tranny supermod of SpaceBattles) on April 19th, 2014.

Evidence:

forums.sufficientvelocity | archive

Here is where the mentioned demodding occurred:

forums.spacebattles | archive

And here's a retrospective:

forums.spacebattles | archive
It was both. The site had become unstable due to, IIRC, a lot of deferred maintenance on the hardware that it was running on. LordSquishy and Foamy had set up SV a little before that happened, and when the twin hurricanes of site issues and the Athene debacle (I never liked Thanatos. I always found him to be a smarmy dick, and I didn't like Athene any better - but the way site staff handled that situation was laughably bad) it was basically the perfect storm to drive a bunch of users over to SV. SB ended up sorting out their servers, and while they might have lost some of their userbase permanently, most of those people who left for good were on the more insufferable end of the posting spectrum.
 
There are a couple of other, mostly dead, offshoots.

Frozen In Carbonite, which split off from SB when a few prominent posters got permabanned.

Also Nyanarchy, which I think split from SV.

Might be another called “Digital Wild West”, there were couple of mentions of that when I was looking through posts to remember the name of Nyanarchy.
 
There are a couple of other, mostly dead, offshoots.

Frozen In Carbonite, which split off from SB when a few prominent posters got permabanned.

Also Nyanarchy, which I think split from SV.

Might be another called “Digital Wild West”, there were couple of mentions of that when I was looking through posts to remember the name of Nyanarchy.
Digital Wild West was made by KF's very own @Drain Todger, who wanted a looser code of conduct than SB had. Unsurprisingly, a small forum with almost no rules ended up attracting people who, ironically or otherwise, just Naziposted. There was also someone who posed as a SB member, for reasons unknown. The poster's name was Aiorann, and he was a leftist stick bundle, but I can't cosign pretending to be someone else in order to smear their name. I do believe that would be described as 'gayops'.

Frozen in Carbonite is a forum I participated on for a bit - it had a nice cozy feel to it, particularly in the 'Rants' section where people would basically do a clean version of KF with regards to laughing at dumb shit on SB and SV. It just never attracted a large enough userbase to make it worth checking regularly - plus it had Rufus Shinra, who is an insufferable faggot whose appeal completely escapes me, but somehow he maintained a large degree of popularity on FiC (though not popular enough to attract much in the way of site traffic, despite a couple people on SB literally advertising it in their signatures.)

I'm not familiar with Nyanarchy - I'm guessing it's in the same vein as Smugcat, which was another tiny split-off for people not trans or leftist enough for SV. It was made by Ritteren Sophia (SV name - SB name was General Schatten, FiC name was Chessia) with programming done by Jackie (now known as Pineapple on SV, and one of the very few True and Honest women on there, at least as far as I could tell).
 
It's really fucking depressing, for similar reasons to AlternateHistory.com the competitors to Spacebattles don't take off. They can't manage to gather a critical mass needed to sustain themselves alone. Normies are half to blame because they will normally take a "I just wanna grill read fiction I don't care about politics" but it is also a issue with the fact that people who are gonna have a issue with it are always gonna be the outliers.
 
Digital Wild West was made by KF's very own @Drain Todger, who wanted a looser code of conduct than SB had.
It's really fucking depressing, for similar reasons to AlternateHistory.com the competitors to Spacebattles don't take off. They can't manage to gather a critical mass needed to sustain themselves alone. Normies are half to blame because they will normally take a "I just wanna grill read fiction I don't care about politics" but it is also a issue with the fact that people who are gonna have a issue with it are always gonna be the outliers.

After being pushed around by the SB moderati for the last fucking time, I figured, "Why can't we have a board that's a bit more Web 1.0 obscene wackiness, with less of the enforced tightwad solemnity and gravitas that SB is trying for?"

I got a Linode Nanode. No real intent to scale beyond a few thousand members at the most. I didn't have the cash to pay the server fees to run a big forum with lots of ongoing transfers. I mostly just wanted to know what it took to set up a LAMP stack and a PHP app like XenForo, familiarize myself with the process of SSHing into a remote Linux server, and, of course, troll the fuck out of SB's extremely tight-assed jannies by showing them that I didn't need them and could comfortably run a board of my own.

I quickly discovered that being a forum admin is absolutely thankless and that you're in charge of safeguarding other people's PII from hackers and troublemakers to an extent that is actually, honestly nauseating, which takes a lot of the joy out of things. My compliments to anyone who can put up with that bullshit.

Fun fact: Kier Darby, the former owner of SpaceBattles, was also the main guy behind XenForo. SpaceBattles, in forum antiquity, used to run on vBulletin, but was ported to XenForo 1 and then, eventually, XF 2, just like what KF runs. In short, SpaceBattles was actually a testbed for the XenForo software over the years. The database contains absolutely ancient posts that were made using vBulletin. The constant updates and breakage of things in the vB > XF1 > XF2 era, before the software had settled out, were a source of major griping among the userbase, with many left to conclude that the forum backend was essentially haunted.

When you look at SpaceBattles, you're looking at XenForo Ground Zero, technically.
 
So, what's the issue here? Can't recall much of Pathfinder's lore nor I care as good GMs will use their own stuff. It's SV the one that goes with the inane "don't hate fictional races" idea*, lest someone reaches the conclusion that Skaven are jews or something. Considering that Pathfinder allows anyone to become a god at will by passing a test IIRC, it can't be that bad, right?

*I wonder if this kind of inane mentality by the lefties resulted in current DnD's mexican orcs.
 
So, what's the issue here? Can't recall much of Pathfinder's lore nor I care as good GMs will use their own stuff. It's SV the one that goes with the inane "don't hate fictional races" idea*, lest someone reaches the conclusion that Skaven are jews or something. Considering that Pathfinder allows anyone to become a god at will by passing a test IIRC, it can't be that bad, right?

*I wonder if this kind of inane mentality by the lefties resulted in current DnD's mexican orcs.

I thought orcs were blacks and tyranids jewish as per modern twitter lore. Mexicans are more like gnomes (very productive ones double as dwarves).
 
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