Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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Recurrent kidney infections are dangerous for both reasons. Most UTIs thankfully don’t get up to the kidneys but when they do it can cause a lot of damage. Kidneys are relatively delicate organs and Gruffin’s UTIs have progressed to the point of sepsis so these are not mild infections. Major infections like hers often cause scarring on the kidneys and if such scarring gets severe enough it can lead to renal failure. Either chronic kidney infections or a single big infection that goes septic can do serious damage, and Gruffin is prone to BOTH.
fucking hell. thank you for explaining so clearly. i didn't realise how fragile the kidneys were and that kidney infections and sepsis both render the patient susceptible to the other.

As On A Journey said above me, the answer is both. If the nephron (functional unit of the kidney) is destroyed, it is gone for good. And the post-infection repair can cause scaring of the kidneys and the urinary tract, which in turn give additional nook and crannies that bacteria can hide and perhaps even evade being exposed to antibiotics.

I brought up Gram-negative because most urinary-tract infections are Gram-negative, and Gram-negative endotoxins are directly cardiotoxic. This said both Gram-neg and -pos bacteria have evolved antibiotic resistance with equal gusto, and Gram-pos bacteria -- such as the Staph that Elephant Dick is having right now, can cause widespread damage through their own mechanisms.

Hard to say how repeated infection affects her immune system. I don't think it predispose her to lupus, but it does make her lupus harder to treat (many drugs used for lupus are immunosuppressives, contraindicated for people prone to infections)
thank you. it makes sense that the repaired areas will be easier for bacteria to colonise and hide in. it sounds like the entire situation is just a clusterfuck, with loads of things that can go wrong and each of them on its own has consequences, and they all increasesuceptibility to the others. there is just no way someone who consents to this as a possibility is sane enough to give consent.

i'm friends with someone who works on identifying pathways that could be targeted by novel antibiotics. she said the academics have tons of strong leads for new antibiotcs, and the reason they aren't being developed is because pharma companies prefer investing in drugs that you'll go on for life, not a week or two. she also said bacteria from the air colonised her agar plates that had been treated with antibiotics, so resistance is just in the air. just great.

i don't understand how governments aren't stepping in and getting new antibiotics developed. generally i prefer small government but in cases like this where we are all so vulnerable and nothing is being done in industry, i feel like no harm can come by governments funding new antibiotic development.

but at least she'd had her life-saving surgery, right?
and what a life she's living. can't imagine she ever feels well enough to fully enjoy herself.
 
As On A Journey said above me, the answer is both. If the nephron (functional unit of the kidney) is destroyed, it is gone for good. And the post-infection repair can cause scaring of the kidneys and the urinary tract, which in turn give additional nook and crannies that bacteria can hide and perhaps even evade being exposed to antibiotics.
I brought up Gram-negative because most urinary-tract infections are Gram-negative, and Gram-negative endotoxins are directly cardiotoxic. This said both Gram-neg and -pos bacteria have evolved antibiotic resistance with equal gusto, and Gram-pos bacteria -- such as the Staph that Tentacle Dick is having right now, can cause widespread damage through their own mechanisms.

Hard to say how repeated infection affects her immune system. I don't think it predispose her to lupus, but it does make her lupus harder to treat (many drugs used for lupus are immunosuppressives, contraindicated for people prone to infections) but at least she'd had her life-saving surgery, right?
Lol when is your STEP 1 exam?

As an aside, Lupus could be drug induced lupus via antibodies on histone bodies, if having heart problems was probably RX Procainamide
 
Her gender journey leads into an early grave.
Don't all gender journeys generally end that way?

Even without suicide. I imagine that pumping cross sex hormones into your body for years is going to shave off time from your lifespan.

As far as I know, the examples of people who transitioned very young and then made it to an old age are non-existent.

Time will tell for this generation. But I suspect that millennials and zoomers are not going to have as large an elderly population as the boomers or gen x ers.
 
It's not an official medical thing as far as I know, but from the many troon medical posts (of both sexes) it seems that taking hormones from the wrong sex either gives you autoimmune conditions or exacerbates any pre-existing ones. Lupus is an autoimmune condition.
It's not really permitted to do research that goes against the troon narrative, so this observation will stay as amateur medical sperging for the forseeable future.
One of my parents has it, so I knew it was autoimmune, but I am under the impression that it is largely genetic. That would make sense if, as you said, hormones could awaken or exacerbate something that is latent and otherwise would not have emerged for years. My parent was diagnosed in their early thirties.
 
No one will ever convince me that women like tentacle are not filled to the brim with regret. When almost all your woes (and there seems to be a lot) can be traced to one thing, in this case transitioning, it seems unlikely they can keep up the NO RAGRATS facade.

It's one thing to be unlucky with health problems due to fate but knowing you did all this to yourself, I think I would off myself.
 
I'm just absolutely speechless with Gruffins situation. I hope things improve for her. Sadly I don't think it will.
Not in the bit I quoted but she mentioned OD’ing on opioids at some point.
She got addicted to opioids and quit waaaayyyy before her phalloplasty. She's quit at 16. ( KF post)
I wouldn't be surprised if she's lapsed though. She must be uncomfortable 24/7, I wouldn't even blame her at this point.
And as a reminder she was put on T at 14.

Here's a TiF that just got her rotdog u/StarryNight_7665
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Phallo on June 7th, AMA. *WARNING: GRAPHIC SURGICAL PHOTOS*

I had rff phalloplasty with gupta and Khouri on June 7th. I’m having a delayed forearm flap with fish skin in a process similar but not identical to integra. I’ll be back under the knife for a new graft on July 7th. So far everything has gone really well and I’m ecstatic with the results! Happy to answer questions.

*the black portion at the end of my phallus is a tattoo. Yes, i have been spooking many nurses.

She's 21 and an EMT. Was a lifeguard at some point. 5 years on T Is a gayden. Has had a bloodclot in her arm a year ago so it'll be interesting to see if she gets any complications. Betting she didn't tell her surgeon either.
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I was told today by a vascular surgeon/doctor that the superficial blood clot in my arm may never go away, and the hard/cord like vein may scar and stay that way forever. It has sent me down a spiral of absolute terror and panic, because it’s starting to scare my partner who never worries about illness unless its serious. He’s usually my gauge for how bad things actually are so I can ground myself and not loose my mind in a panic. Now I’m freaking out about a lump on the back of my neck. It was seen a couple of months ago, two separate providers (one nurse practitioner, one ENT) said they thought it was a swollen lymph node. The ENT said to monitor it and if it didnt go away in a couple months to go back to either him or the nurse practitioner for ultrasound and further testing. It shrunk a bunch in the first week or two, but then stopped shrinking after a while and stayed hard and unmoving. I’m absolutely terrified now that I have cancer. I’m only 20. I hate doctors and medical issues because I’m constantly convinced my body will fail on me. I’m scared I’ll die before I have the chance to live the life I wanted. I feel like I’m going into a panic.
 
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Is it really body dysmorphia when you ARE repulsive? She’s been butchered to fuck, her body is ruined

She went from just a fat woman to a walking failed experiment

I wonder when the trans community will wake up and realise the “trans genocide” isn’t being done by the people who won’t use your preferred pronouns, it’s by the doctors who have been experimenting on them and sterilising them in the process
This is why I can't look at the detrans communities long. I don't even get MATI, I just start seeing the logic in suicide, and that's not a good frame of mind. But yeah, detrans when you still have your body in one piece, you have an embarrassing life lesson. Detrans after things have been cut off or stapled on or drilled in, what's even the point? What's left for such a person? We need desert hermitages for them, that's not even a joke.

Not a medfag so probably dumb questions- is it the repeated kidney infections that put her at risk of renal failure? And if so is it cos every one does a bit of damage, or because it increases the probability of a really bad one that does a ton of damage?I.e is every infection she gets damaging whichever organs/systems it reaches? How do repeated infections affect the immune system?
In addition to what others said, all the massive blood loss from surgical complications is another ding on the kidneys. They don't tolerate ischemia well at all. You choke off their blood flow with a hemorrhage, then expect them to clock in and work overtime when you flood the body with blood transfusions and fluids to try to resus. And of course lupus attacks the kidneys pretty commonly too. Those two beans are fucked.

All that aside, I can't get over the chosen name "Gruffin." This girl never wanted to be a man, she wanted to be a boy dog muppet.
 
Tif plans to defraud medicaid in order to get coveted peen:
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My road map for surgeries (hysto, phallo) with insurance coverage - how realistic is this? Any revisions I should make?

I just had top surgery a few weeks ago, mostly covered by my insurance, and I've been thinking about how to accomplish the rest of my surgeries within the next few years. I want a total hysterectomy, RFF phalloplasty, UL, scrotoplasty, v-ectomy, an erectile pump implant, and possibly glansplasty. I'm under my mom's insurance (BCBS of Michigan) currently but she just left her job and I'll only be covered for 18 more months. I was planning on switching to Medicaid of Illinois but I made $900 too much last year to qualify for it since I work full time and am not in college. Here's what I've been thinking:

- Start my hysto planning (finding surgeons, getting consults, etc. at the end of this year (2023)

- either quit working completely or drastically cut my hours in 2024 so I can qualify for medicaid in 2025. Start college so I have something to do with my time.

- Get the hysto sometime in 2024 (will give me enough time to fully recover from top + enjoy having full autonomy for a bit before I'm back in recovery mode)

- Start electrolysis once I'm recovered from hysto (I've got a decent amount of hair on my arm so it'll prolly take a few sessions)

- start phallo consults end of 2024

- apply for medicaid in mid-2025, continuing to ensure my income is under the limit

- get stage 1 phallo under medicaid in 2025

- get stage 2 phallo in 2026

- prolly a revision surgery either between the first two stages or after the second stage (since I'm getting so much done I just want to plan for one now to avoid disappointment later down the road)

- optional glansplasty in 2027

With this road map I'd be completely done with transitioning by age 25-26 which is as ideal as I can hope for. It also gives me a reason to start college since I've been putting it off for so long. I feel great writing it out like this especially since I've felt so directionless in life for so long. I am first and foremost trying to be realistic though so if anyone who's undergone this has any advice please let me know! Am I being a little too idealistic? Am I skipping a few steps? Am I underestimating my recovery times or the accessibility of surgeons?
 
It also gives me a reason to start college since I've been putting it off for so long. I feel great writing it out like this especially since I've felt so directionless in life for so long.
She's so close to realize her problem is lacking a purpose in life, but she just ignore that feeling to get a gangrenous sausage sewn to her crotch.
 
That girl is twenty-one fucking years old talking about getting a full hysterectomy while I know multiple women that have been refused tubal litigation in their late twenties to early thirties because they only had one child or no children. Fuck this gay earth. And the pure entitlement emanating from that entire post is rage-inducing. Maybe get a grownup job that offers insurance instead of sucking off the government tit for your million-dollar rotdog, Aiden.
 
All of these unnecessary surgeries paid for by insurance are starting to piss me off. Slight powerlevel, over twenty years ago I developed a hernia due to an injury on the job. I wasn't able to conclusively prove that the injury happened at work, so no workman's comp, but insurance covered the surgery to repair it, problem solved. Much more recently, I injured myself clearing brush and sod on my parents' property. Abdominal bulge, assumed it was probably a hernia, my primary care doctor agreed. Sent me to see a specialist, a thoracic surgeon. He told me that the issue was an injury, but not a hernia. It was a stretching of the Linea Alba (white line), the connective tissue between the two halves of the abdominal muscles. This condition is called Diastasis Recti. Relatively rare in men but extremely common in women who give birth without a c-section. Insurance companies universally consider this to be a cosmetic rather than a medical issue, so repair would be an out of pocket cost. Everytime I sit up the middle of my belly bulges out between the two sides as if my intestines are trying to burst through the skin, but this is a cosmetic issue. And insurance pays for all of these Dr. Frankenstein surgeries on troons and pooners.
 
That girl is twenty-one fucking years old talking about getting a full hysterectomy while I know multiple women that have been refused tubal litigation in their late twenties to early thirties because they only had one child or no children.
And insurance pays for all of these Dr. Frankenstein surgeries on troons and pooners.
It is absolutely killing any empathy I might have for these people, even the young ones. It took me three times to read the Gruffin post in full, I was so butthurt. We live in a world with the best healthcare mankind ever had, but it is still a scare and expensive resource. And these clowns don't deserve any of it. Let the butchers who take them on deal with all the emergencies and complications in their own bloody clinics instead of sending these idiots to the ER and elsewhere.
 
she also said bacteria from the air colonised her agar plates that had been treated with antibiotics, so resistance is just in the air.
Goddamn. And that sounds like it’s in a laboratory environment so imagine the bacteria floating around in a hospital. It makes me so fucking mad that these surgeons are knowingly putting their patients at risk for chronic infections when the antibiotic resistance scenario is as dire as it is.

She got addicted to opioids and quit waaaayyyy before her phalloplasty. She's quit at 16.
I didn’t realize that it was when she was so young. How did she even get addicted to opioids as a teenager? What a great candidate for a series of dangerous invasive surgeries though.
 
That girl is twenty-one fucking years old talking about getting a full hysterectomy while I know multiple women that have been refused tubal litigation in their late twenties to early thirties because they only had one child or no children. Fuck this gay earth. And the pure entitlement emanating from that entire post is rage-inducing. Maybe get a grownup job that offers insurance instead of sucking off the government tit for your million-dollar rotdog, Aiden.
I get so mad at trannies and health insurance giving them a free ride to mutilation. Surgeries that would actually benefit a person get rejected all the time by insurance but Aiden has pronouns, gotta give zir what ze wants.

Another example: The hoops a woman has to go through for breast reduction to be covered by insurance so her back stops hurting vs a teen girl getting a teat yeet. And FFS: there is no way without gender ideology that insurance would cover something so cosmetic as a nose job.

Trannies have some serious (dare I say it) privilege.
 
Ting is supposed to be an expert and he's saying the chances of a revision are a coin flip tossup? 3 blood transfusions from internal bleeding? Thats significant assuming this person doesn't have many comorbidities. For reference there was a study from '19 about cosmetic surgery complications, only 2.04% experienced any bleeding complications. Of that 2.04% were people with hypertension, prev bleeding conditions and those with long surgery times.
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Ting was one of the Butchers that mangled Jazz Jennings amhole, it's such a well known case of malpractice I'm amazed these troonified faggots go to him, then again the Butcher of Ardmore still gets clients victims so maybe it's not surprising afterall.
 
follow up question regarding the very informative answers to my previous questions.

so, fucking with your urethra makes UTIs a frequent problem for rotdog patients. does anyone have any info on whether these surgeons do medical screening? i.e. if you already have problems with frequent UTIs, or an issue that would complicate one, would they reject the patient? i can see them not caring cos someone else will ahve to deal with the damage, wondering how low the ethical bar is.
 
I agree that the pink anus-looking part is the urethra and the hole that just looks like a skin tunnel (easiest to see in the 10-month photo) is the canal. This happens with many amholes, there are even stories where a man attempting to penetrate one mistakenly goes into the urethra instead of the canal because superficially the urethra looks more like vagina. As you can probably guess, this is excruciating for the troon.

What I don’t get is how it went from a bad but relatively normal (for an amhole) in the 10-month photo to having that horrible swollen urethra area just two months later. It might be the angles but I doubt that’s the whole reason, there’s got to be some kind of urethral complication. It just looks like peeing through it would be so painful.
Prolapsed Urethra is my guess, like Lucas.
Her gender journey leads into an early grave.
This is what she chose.
There is no turning back.
 
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would they reject the patient?

I feel like they operate via don't ask, don't tell. We've seen many examples in this thread of patients with existing self harm scars all over their chest and arms showing off their yeeted teets, and somehow these obvious red flags didn't stop the surgeon. Why let a few old UTIs stand in the way of $$$$$ gender affirming care.
 
follow up question regarding the very informative answers to my previous questions.

so, fucking with your urethra makes UTIs a frequent problem for rotdog patients. does anyone have any info on whether these surgeons do medical screening? i.e. if you already have problems with frequent UTIs, or an issue that would complicate one, would they reject the patient? i can see them not caring cos someone else will ahve to deal with the damage, wondering how low the ethical bar is.
Here's the problem with medical screening in this context:

At age say, 23 or even 30, let alone age 15, even a morbidly obese person who never exercises and eats mostly Pringles and Snickers is probably going to have mostly, if not completely, normal lab values for all the stuff they are likely to check.

They won't be having signs of kidney failure (creatinine, proteinuria), they won't have signs of fatty liver disease (AST, ALT), they won't have signs of rampant inflammation (CRP, ESR), they may even have a normal HBA1C.

But given a smooth trajectory from present to age 40, all of those things will begin to deteriorate. And in the mean time, they will have taxed their systems with all these radical interventions, meaning that "do nothing, stay fat, eat pringles, but no trooning out" may have resulted in T2DM and its sequelae starting at age 50 before, but now it's gonna be 35.

We've all known someone who did everything wrong and lived a fairly normal lifespan anyhow. That guy who smoked like a chimney and lived to 80. The Trump figure, obese and living off McDoubles and still going strong at 75. Those guys are lucky and have a lot of natural, genetic resilience helping them along. These people are basically blowing up those reserves and blasting through them age age 21, instead of saving them to come back from pneumonia in a weekend and make their enemies mad when they are 72.
 
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