Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[RussianBlonde]

I meant the "attachments" so to say in the male pelvis. It's a complicated network in there, that's why when a rotdog is placed on a TIF it never looks the same.

Sure. It's from here. I know it's the Kinsey Institute, and yes I know it's only 1400. There's stuff like this too.

Ah yeah, Kinsey, also famous for researching about orgasms in raped little children. Indeed a source worth quoting.

First sentence from the conclusion of your second study: "The findings indicate that women differ greatly from one another in terms of their tendency and capacity to experience orgasms."

Nothing to see here.

Imagine fingering a woman and pulling your bloody finger out with out goddamn wound tissue attached.

Fucking horrific.

uWu Just womanly things!

Hey, it was probably just period blood, bigot.

 

[sheepworldvizor]

“Transwoman” fingered, wife founds out the hard way that it’s a goddamn wound.

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Imagine fingering a woman and pulling your bloody finger out with out goddamn wound tissue attached.

Fucking horrific.

uWu Just womanly things!

“It felt great for us” is enough enriched copium to power Chennai for 3 weeks.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Girl, speak for yourself, seriously. I don't understand why some women speak for all women, it also further contributes to the issue of men assuming all women think/are alike.

This is actually a very good point; thank you.

 

[Procrastinhater]

“Transwoman” fingered, wife founds out the hard way that it’s a goddamn wound.

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Imagine fingering a woman and pulling your bloody finger out with out goddamn wound tissue attached.

Fucking horrific.

uWu Just womanly things!

Goddamn that is fucking Islamic. Fucking bits of "tissue" just dangling out of his amhole what the fuck, troons are without doubt the most grotesque fucking gargoyles imaginable and tranny fuckers are the lowest of the low.
That's some repugnant shit.

 

[vomitusdeux]

So, if fingering causes all those flesh chunks to come out, then I think people who are claiming they had a penis in their amhole are either lying or the guy offed himself after he realized it wasn't a period.

 

[Got Milk!]

Do we have any repository, a masterlist for the fact that this shit is definitely being done to kids?

People keep saying that doctors are not operating under-18 and while I don't know much, I know enough of it to smell the bullshit. Kim Petras at 16, Jazz at 17, Susie Green's son at 16. I've no doubt I just haven't heard of any other high profile cases.
If we know it happened at those times, if we know WPATH has eunuch-fetish perverts on board, if we know blockers are poison, if we know doctors have cut off breast tissue on girls as young as twelve, if we know actual hormones have been given to underage kids, why should I not think there's more going on?

I'm pretty sure in Oregon (for example) the age of medical consent is 15. And since "gender dysphoria" is considered a medically correctable diagnosis now, they can get whatever done at 15 with no permission.
(Unless they have changed the law but it was 100% true in the past few years. But it's Oregon so I doubt it's changed)

This article implies it was still the case until 2020 for sure.

 

[sanguis draconis]

Hey guys, coming here today with the 2 absolute worst gifs I've ever posted, the surgery gore has nothing on those gross things fully healed in their "natural state"

First one:

Almost 1 year post op wittenberg. This is a very visual video of how everything kinda interacts. Educational purposes only, as i got lots of questions about my surgery. Cropped my face out of to avoid pervs (by u/Renna_FGC)
(archive)

Spoiler: absolutely disgusting, I WISH it was just gore

Answers don't say much, it's PPV (Peritoneal Pull-Through Vaginoplasty) performed by
Heidi Wittenberg

There's this disturbing tidbit:

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Newbury108 33 points 16 hours ago

thank you for sharing and for demonstrating what it’s like when you tense muscles. I’d been wondering about how much that exists

Renna_FGC[S] 26 points 16 hours ago

Yes! I was curious before surgery. You can definitely control it all in there

And his "clit" is supposedly "fully functional"

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missTransiness 35 points 16 hours ago

How sensitive are clitoris? And how does sex feels? Are you happy with the results? Did you had any revision?

Renna_FGC[S] 66 points 16 hours ago

No revision. My clit is fully functioning and i can orgasm rather quickly

missTransiness 19 points 16 hours ago

I am so happy for you and jelous ofcourse.

This second video is a PI, it's a few days late but I don't remember it being shared, correct me if I'm wrong tho!

Happy 6 month anniversary to my vagina! (PI vaginoplasty with scrotal graft, by Doctors Melissa Poh and Pauline Reyblat, at Kaiser Permanente West LA.) (by u/Post-Op-Swordmaiden)

Spoiler: Forgive me Allah

This one talks a lot more in the comments, apparently everything is great:

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Post-Op-Swordmaiden[S] 1 point 17 days ago

Overall, recovery has been both easier and harder than I expected. I was prepared for things to be swollen and bloody and messy for a while, and so I was astonished at how clean everything looked, even at the start. I didn't have any complications aside from a small amount of granulation tissue inside the vagina that they cleaned up with a few drops of silver nitrate at a post-op appointment. I pushed myself pretty aggressively with the dilation, and overdid it, backslid, and had to learn to listen to my body as it healed. I think the hardest part was that it took about a month longer than I'd expected to feel like my energy was back, and about the same amount of time to begin sitting upright comfortably. I'd anticipated 12 weeks of recovery, and it was closer to 16 before I felt like I was coming out of the main recovery period. But, at 6 months I feel like I can do pretty much everything I could do before, except pee standing up. And I absolutely LOVE having a vagina! Clothes fit better, sex is better, orgasms are better, my overall dysphoria levels have dropped significantly... it's amazing!

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nesting-doll 25 points 17 days ago

x2 on the Wow! I’ve been looking at a LOT of vulvas lately in my search for reference photos to provide my surgeon, and I can say without reservation that you’ve achieved basically cis identical aesthetics. Congratulations! How is everything else? Oh! And thank you for posting video. It was somehow very helpful and more informative than stills.

Post-Op-Swordmaiden[S] 29 points 17 days ago

Thank you so much! I couldn't be happier with my results! I've got about 7-8 inches of depth (depending on how you measure), I'm able to have clitoral and vaginal orgasms, including really intense squirting vaginal orgasms, I'm self-lubricating (up to a point), and everything feels "right", inside and out.
And yeah, I prefer video because I think it's more honest/accurate about how the anatomy looks and feels and moves. I'm glad you appreciate it!

From another post (where the video looks practically the same except it's after he "shaved for the first time"):

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softasnight 3 points 2 months ago

You look amazing! I’m FTM and also went to Dr. Poh but for phalloplasty! It’s cool to see the other side of things

Post-Op-Swordmaiden[S] 4 points 2 months ago

That's so rad! She does such amazing work, and is also actually hilarious, in a really arch way! Like ...my only complication was that I had a bit of nonviable tissue on the tip of my clit that took a while to drop off (it was like a soft scab that needed the tissue underneath to heal first). At one point I got freaked out about it and she made time in her schedule to see me, so we drove up to LA. The tissue was greyish white in color, and it looked a bit like I had a...well ..a molar....in between my labia. My very own case of vagina dentata! So I point this out to her and she laughs, and then as I'm reading through the after visit notes I see that she is now referring to it as my "vaginal molar"!
Dr Reyblat, the urologist she works with is also a delight! She did my orchiectomy a few years ago, and I remember in the post op visit that she gleefully picked away the scab from the incision, like a kid in a candy store. And then, after my vaginoplasty she did the same with some of the stray sutures!

Paid by insurance!

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wiwagrn 1 point 2 months ago

How much did it cost ?

Post-Op-Swordmaiden[S] 2 points 2 months ago

It's complicated..... because it was covered by my insurance the copay for the hospital stay was only $300(!) The 80 hours of electrolysis that I needed before they'd approve me for surgery cost about $6000. The delays to my surgery from COVID cost me $25,0000 in lost income for some very complicated reasons that I won't elaborate upon.

A post from this man from r/Femaleorgasmdenial

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Denied by my own pussy... [Edging] (self.Femaleorgasmdenial)
submitted 3 months ago by Post-Op-Swordmaiden
So I'm a post-op trans woman, and I wanted to share my recent experiences with a kind of orgasm denial that I've found profoundly enjoyable! I'm not sure if any of the other ladies here might relate to this, but perhaps you might?
I had my bottom surgery almost 4 months ago. Before my lady bits were reconfigured I couldn't go for more than 48 hours without an orgasm...and this was after years of being on estrogen, and an orchiectomy that had removed my testosterone producing parts! Don't let anyone tell you that all trans women lose their sex drive on HRT! Some of us remain very sexually active, although almost everything about how I experienced sex, desire, and orgasm changed to feel more feminine, even before getting any surgeries. But one thing that remained consistent for me was that almost every session with my vibrator would end in some kind of "release"... sometimes with accompanying wetness, sometimes without. Before surgery I could edge myself - sometimes for quite a while - but eventually I always gave in to the need to orgasm.
But now, on this side of surgery, things are deliciously different! The pleasure I get from my new vagina is extraordinary! It's so unlike anything I ever experienced with my old anatomy. Now, when I touch myself, I can slowly build myself up right to the point where I would have had a "release" before surgery, but now it just keeps going....and going....and going! I lose time. One, two, three hours will pass, all with me right on the edge of that release that never comes! It is magic beyond anything I might have imagined (and I imagined a lot of things)! I can feel that squirting orgasm, just out of reach, but it still hasn't arrived. Instead I get to exist in that exquisite space just before squirting that I seldom was able to reach before.
Someday I may reach that release...I can feel the possibility in my body...but for now I'm at almost four months of a kind of denial that I'm finding extremely pleasurable. Curious if any other gals can relate to this?

This entire post is some extremely degen AGP coomer shit

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Post-Op-Swordmaiden[S] 2 points 3 months ago

Girlfriend is sleeping peacefully, and I'm awake and looking forward to some proper time with her tomorrow once she's recovered from the travel. Currently imagining us grinding our cunts together (she's also trans, and had her bottom surgery over a year ago).
My polycule/coven currently consists of two fox girls, a rat boi, one kestrel, and an incarnation of Bastet. All trans, and all scattered across the planet. We're a hecking menagerie, but the vixens have the upper hand at the moment!

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Pristine_Proposal_84 1 point 3 months ago

Oh please do keep us updated. Very curious what the orgasm would feel like. Is this going to be your first time with a partner since the surgery?

Post-Op-Swordmaiden[S] 2 points 3 months ago

One of my other girlfriends actually just left on Wednesday, after a wonderful two week long visit, but despite her best efforts I didn't tip over that edge!


Pristine_Proposal_84 1 point 3 months ago

Oh okay, wow! God I have so many questions .. Like what does penetration feel like? What does rubbing the bean feel like? how does the lubrication and cleaning work? Just fascinating stuff on so many levels. I completely understand though if you don't want to go into details here

Post-Op-Swordmaiden[S] 4 points 3 months ago

Heehee....all perfectly reasonable questions!
The short, short, answer is: pretty much just like a natal vagina, with a few minor differences. When my surgeon constructed my vaginal canal, she also relocated my prostate gland above it, so I have the equivalent of a "g-spot" which makes penetration really enjoyable! My clit is extremely sensitive, such that I need a lot of gentle and delicate touch through my hood before I can handle having her touched directly. I'm self-lubricating, but only up to a point: if I finger myself for too long, or use a vibe for too long, I need to supplement with saliva, or a drop of lube to keep things feeling nice.
As far as cleaning and maintenance is concerned, I dilate twice a day to keep everything opened up, since my body is going to spend a while trying to close things up (think about it like healing a piercing, but on a much bigger scale!). But, fun fact: penatrative sex counts as a dilation session! Eventually I'll reduce my dilation schedule to once a day, and maybe less, depending on how I heal. I needed to douche regularly at the beginning because there was a lot of healing happening, but now that everything has settled down I keep myself clean the same way any other girl would, without really having to worry about any specific additional steps or routines.
Honestly, once the scars fade a bit more nobody would ever know that I hadn't been born this way! I can't get over how good everything feels and looks and works! It's really wonderful!

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Pristine_Proposal_84 1 point 3 months ago

Wow, just wow, that is so awesome. Absolutely incredible. I'm definitely a little jealous! One follow up question though...you mentioned self lubrication, where does it come from?

Post-Op-Swordmaiden[S] 3 points 3 months ago* Show original

So this started before surgery....HRT made me start to get wet... literally....when aroused. Since surgery it's the same, except that because a lot of those same tissues are now internal instead of external it gets even wetter over time.

And a comment from an earlier post, more context on this mess of a man. He's an obese type 2 diabetic with "a whole bunch of chronic health problems":

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Correct-Ad4808 2 points 4 months ago

My original birth certificate was male nor female... I'm thinking about having my testes removed and turned sack into a female genitalia and keeping my penis which is buried and very small it looks like I have labia and I don't get erections ... per se I get wet and I do orgasm so I can take something dildo or penis internally I'm only about four to five inches deep it's hard to ask a female straight to finger you to orgasm the comment about being brave I'm just checking when it comes to pain I understand they leave prostate so there is an orgasm or lubrication or wetness but you have a very perfect female genitalia and the surgery very successful but I also scar really easy I'm probably three or four times your age

Post-Op-Swordmaiden[S] -1 points 4 months ago

Heehee.... I'd.be impressed if you were three or four times my age, since I'm in my mid 40s! Thank you for the additional context.
Some info on my circumstances: I'm 43, been on HRT for 3 years. I'm disabled and have a whole bunch of chronic health problems, including type 2 diabetes. I'm a big girl, and lead a sedentary lifestyle (due to chronic pain,. stiffness, and inflammation). I had an orchiectomy in the fall of 2020, which left me able to receive some penatration of my inguinal canals that was likely similar to what you experience (am I right in assuming that you are intersex?). My pre-op orgasms were soft and moist in some very affirming ways, but ultimately I decided that I needed to take this next step for myself. Part of my reasoning for starting with the orchi was that I didn't know how well my body would tolerate surgery due to my various risk factors, and I wanted to start with something that had an easier recovery period.
At two months out from surgery things are starting to feel amazing! The worst complication I experienced was some nonviable tissue on the tip of my clit that took about 7 weeks to heal and ultimately drop off, leaving new healthy tissue behind. This was gross and unpleasant, but hasn't had any long term consequences,.my doctors were very supportive and reassuring about it at every step of the way.
I'm currently at the "omg this feels amazing and I don't want to stop touching it" stage of recovery! I've not yet had a prostate orgasm, or anything that quite maps to the same kinds of release that I experienced pre-op, but I can tell that it's only a matter of time. In the meantime, masturbation is this glorious, unending, wave of pleasure where I can get myself right up to the edge of where I'd have ejaculated previously, and just...stay there. I legit lose time in this state. My last "girlgasm" lasted for almost two hours until my hands were too numb from the magic wand for me to continue. I cannot wait for my girlfriend to be in town next month, to explore how deep this proverbial rabbit hole goes!

There's an earlier video in that post that's similar with the first one but shows the holes in a little more detail, the urethra(?) is somehow very disturbing

Spoiler: video, absolutely haram

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

“Transwoman” fingered, wife founds out the hard way that it’s a goddamn wound.

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Imagine fingering a woman and pulling your bloody finger out with out goddamn wound tissue attached.

Fucking horrific.

uWu Just womanly things!

It's OK! Her hymen just broke!

 

[blanketdog]

“I have to pretend to be happy because I can’t let people know I regret it and they were right!”

Phallo surgeries are really the elite level of Sunk Cost Fallacy, aren’t they?

You could even say… sunk cost phallocy.

He seems to be doing trans surgeries as a his main shtick. He offers:

• Body contouring
• Breast augmentation
• Clavicle/shoulder lengthening
• Clavicle/shoulder shortening
• FFS
• Fat grafting
• Hair grafting
• Hip implants

Clavicle lengthening? I never come across a TiF doing ths? He has a video on it showing the process on a TiF.

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and here's the end result.
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I know perfectly well what FFS is but keep reading it wrong. List contains body contouring and for fuck’s sake.

 

[Geranium]

New Ashton Williams update! She talks about how having the suprapubic catheter in for so long (7 months) has left her with a scar that looks like a second belly button.

Poor thing, she looks like she's about to burst into tears. Her mouth's range of motion is still clearly restricted.

 

[Iraq Lobster]

New Ashton Williams update! She talks about how having the suprapubic catheter in for so long (7 months) has left her with a scar that looks like a second belly button.
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Poor thing, she looks like she's about to burst into tears. Her mouth's range of motion is still clearly restricted.

Wow those hips when she takes a step back

 

[Slideshow Bill]

I hate the eugenics argument because trannies are, clearly, the MOST susceptible to propaganda. Why the hell would you want to kill THOSE people off, as a govt. official? Or maybe that's what they want me to think...

Trannies are useful idiots, which is great short term but can backfire horribly long term. The ones who can be convinced to risk their lives and health for a retarded ideology, in the government's mind, can just as easily be convinced to do so for an enemy's ideology. The best sheep to keep around are the people who disagree with transgenderism but are too afraid to say anything. Those are the ones that are ruled by fear and social conditioning/ostracization. Predatory troons don't care about social ostracization because they have no shame. Pitiful troons (prey troons?) become trans because of conditioning, and are unpredictable because they have no loyalty; they can be conditioned to do anything. And then there's the bonus of free human experimentation and bingo bango. Troons are the lame horses of society and trans butchers are the glue/mystery meat factory.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

“Transwoman” fingered, wife founds out the hard way that it’s a goddamn wound.

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Trans sex = inserting body parts into open wounds with the chance of blood and tissue sticking to said body parts

 

[RussianBlonde]

@sanguis draconis, you have done the gods work there but I absolutely couldn't force myself to click on these videos, maybe when. I'm a bit drunk I'll have more courage. Until then let me ask, did that guy really have completely normal authentic looking vagina, like one of the reddittors commented?

Also, fuck these pervs posting on all these subreddits trying to chat up women and compare pussy experiences. Disgusting fucking freaks.

 

[Piss Bear]

“Transwoman” fingered, wife founds out the hard way that it’s a goddamn wound.

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Imagine fingering a woman and pulling your bloody finger out with out goddamn wound tissue attached.

Fucking horrific.

uWu Just womanly things!

You didn't include the full post! It doesn't end just there.

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(NB) My GF is ~4 months post op from bottom surgery. Her surgeon cleared her for penetrative sex on the 14th of this month. About a month ago she asked her nurse if fingering was ok and her nurse said as long as she is very gentle. So she explored herself on her own.
Yesterday, we started having sex and she invited me to finger her. It was my first time, it felt great for us, I asked her to guide me and tell me what feels good and what doesn't. After a while I looked down and saw loose granulation tissue hanging around a previous wound dyhesion. It was one granular pea sized tissue hanging on by a bit of tissue right at her opening. The granule was loose and moving almost freely. I stopped and she checked herself out, after which another loose granule appeared. It started bleeding for a few minutes before stopping.
I felt awful, that I may have hurt her or done some damage. She was also very worried. I apologized for being so rough, neither of us realized she had been hurt. We left it at that.
Today she feels ok, but I'm not comfortable fingering her anymore. I thought the first time I was being extra careful about being too rough but it got away from me. I don't want to risk that again and I don't feel comfortable with it. If something happens that will be on me. Regardless if the risk is high or low. I want to wait until the original date that her surgeon gave us. I would be the one responsible for any permanent damage, logical or not.
She feels like the time line is arbitrary and waiting another week won't make a difference. I told her I wasn't comfortable. This recovery has pushed a lot of my comfort levels. I don't want to tell her what to do with her body but I also don't want to risk myself hurting her. Any time I have brought up her surgeons recovery timelines, she makes an argument that she knows what's best for her body and she should be able to make those choices. I told her I supported whatever she wanted to do, I didn't want to fight anymore about trying to follow the guidelines.
I'm not comfortable having sex with her and even less so now that she's upset. She's upset that I am infantilizing her and said if I were in the same I would feel the same way if she didn't want to have sex with me, even if I felt I was alright. I wouldn't push her to have sex with me if that were the case.
I told her I was not telling her what to do and asked her if she was upset about me being uncomfortable having sex. She got upset and abruptly ended the conversation then told me nevermind, she won't tell me about her feelings next time.
I feel fucking gutted. I'm not comfortable having sex and that should be enough. Regardless about how she feels and whether or not a cis man (the surgeon) can tell her how to treat her body because the trans community knows better any ways. I don't want to have to defend not wanting to take any risks or whether or not it's transphobic for me to be uncomfortable. I understand her feelings but I am still not comfortable, even less so now because of this reaction.

 

[Fapcop]

Trans sex = inserting body parts into open wounds with the chance of blood and tissue sticking to said body parts

“I want to pound your puss until the stitches burst open!”

Troon pick up line, probably.

 

[batteredpancakes]

You didn't include the full post! It doesn't end just there.
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(NB) My GF is ~4 months post op from bottom surgery. Her surgeon cleared her for penetrative sex on the 14th of this month. About a month ago she asked her nurse if fingering was ok and her nurse said as long as she is very gentle. So she explored herself on her own.
Yesterday, we started having sex and she invited me to finger her. It was my first time, it felt great for us, I asked her to guide me and tell me what feels good and what doesn't. After a while I looked down and saw loose granulation tissue hanging around a previous wound dyhesion. It was one granular pea sized tissue hanging on by a bit of tissue right at her opening. The granule was loose and moving almost freely. I stopped and she checked herself out, after which another loose granule appeared. It started bleeding for a few minutes before stopping.
I felt awful, that I may have hurt her or done some damage. She was also very worried. I apologized for being so rough, neither of us realized she had been hurt. We left it at that.
Today she feels ok, but I'm not comfortable fingering her anymore. I thought the first time I was being extra careful about being too rough but it got away from me. I don't want to risk that again and I don't feel comfortable with it. If something happens that will be on me. Regardless if the risk is high or low. I want to wait until the original date that her surgeon gave us. I would be the one responsible for any permanent damage, logical or not.
She feels like the time line is arbitrary and waiting another week won't make a difference. I told her I wasn't comfortable. This recovery has pushed a lot of my comfort levels. I don't want to tell her what to do with her body but I also don't want to risk myself hurting her. Any time I have brought up her surgeons recovery timelines, she makes an argument that she knows what's best for her body and she should be able to make those choices. I told her I supported whatever she wanted to do, I didn't want to fight anymore about trying to follow the guidelines.
I'm not comfortable having sex with her and even less so now that she's upset. She's upset that I am infantilizing her and said if I were in the same I would feel the same way if she didn't want to have sex with me, even if I felt I was alright. I wouldn't push her to have sex with me if that were the case.
I told her I was not telling her what to do and asked her if she was upset about me being uncomfortable having sex. She got upset and abruptly ended the conversation then told me nevermind, she won't tell me about her feelings next time.
I feel fucking gutted. I'm not comfortable having sex and that should be enough. Regardless about how she feels and whether or not a cis man (the surgeon) can tell her how to treat her body because the trans community knows better any ways. I don't want to have to defend not wanting to take any risks or whether or not it's transphobic for me to be uncomfortable. I understand her feelings but I am still not comfortable, even less so now because of this reaction.

Fuck it lets pull out her entire post history
u/Top-Appearance3095 all from the last day for this post. From oldest to newest.

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Response from the comment: "Four months doesn't seem too bad but I certainly might be a longer recovery"​

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The recovery for bottom surgery is typically a year she is no where near done recovering nor is she in a place where everything is stabalized. Even now at the 4 month mark it is an incredible struggle. Dilating 4x a day is a massive commitment that can take anywhere from 15-45 minutes depending on what is going on. The process is painful, for the longest time she lost depth and it was too painful to push and get any back, it's a constant battle against body and mind. That was incredibly taxing on both of us emotionally and physically. As a couple we have had to make sacrifices, travel plans are put on hold, going out for day trips is not something we can do, and between dilation and work we just feel at a stand still. We've both said that the commitment to bottom surgery was far more involved than we anticipated. There just wasn't a way to understand the time commitment until it happened.

On my end, I've been insecure because sex is no longer as easy or the same as it was when she had a penis. There is little sensation on the labia or clit, her body can't distinguish what feels good and what doesn't yet either. The lube we need to use has a bitter taste which isn't great for oral. There is a rainbow of discharge at all times, and the smells are also different and not always appetizing. It's a sharp learning curve that's left us both emotionally drained.

Emotional and verbal validation isn't enough sometimes. Emotional responses are not always logical regardless of how many times I tell her that things will work out eventually or how I love her pussy. As much as I want to do it it's also not reasonable to put the expectations of validation on me. I can do so much but it's not my job. The burden falls to her to process what she is feeling and how to better herself.

Hard conversations are a part of recovery, new boundaries need to be put in place, and sometimes there isn't an easy way to talk it out. With the scope of recovery, we've had to leave some things unresolved for the time being because it's not feasible to work certain things out at this point. Maybe in the future. Bottom surgery is a whole new circus.

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Response from the comment: "

I absolutely agree with everyone that NO means NO and regardless of the reason, you should not be pressured to do any sexual act.​

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I work in healthcare/medical. The timelines may seem arbitrary and people believe they know what’s best for their bodies, but the reality is they are not arbitrary (research is done) and people sometimes conflate their emotional wants with no active pain to “im all healed and better”. I am not saying she doesn’t know her body and her limits, but I’ve seen a lot of patients who thought they were better, only to end up pushing it too far post-op and end up needing longer recoveries. While 6 weeks is the general timeline, I am surprised the doctor would not want a follow-up to clear her. Anyway I’m sorry you’re going through this and hang in there!"​

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I haven't worked in people's healthcare but I've worked in zoo's and gone to veterinary school. Also growing up on a farm familiarized me with field medicine. People and animals are not the same at all but I know that no pain isn't just a go ahead with life as normal. The timelines are there for a reason regardless of what other vets do or another farmer tries. How a person feels about their recovery doesn't erase the fact that the body needs that time for the best results.

I've tried explaining it to her, but she just defaults back to "Well if you were comfortable with x then why are you suddenly not comfortable with y". Or taking my other words and focusing on the inconsistencies when I said something different several weeks ago. She asks for examples of when she did or said x before but then I give her examples and suddenly I'm bringing up the past and "we've already reconciled that why are you bringing it up" on and on until we are both confused and upset. It's exhausting, I feel crazy sometimes.

Spoiler: Comment 3

Response from comment: "​

This is certainly a fear I have of bottom surgery because I’m not inherently flexible so I’ve started doing yoga and I’m trying to get on a regiment of that so I can incorporate dilating into it 2x a day. I didn’t realize it was four times per day but it’s good information and I’m optimistic because I work from home this won’t be a problem.​

It’s a major surgery and I’ve had two very major surgeries recently, one where half my intestines were removed so I’m prepared for the reality but I’m not sure if my boyfriend will be or not.​

I’m most concerned if I will still be able to have the same sort of sex I have now with him while I heal. I’m guessing probably not?​

It’s going to be incredibly challenging but I’m in peak physical fitness and I’m fairly certain I can handle it, it’s just a mental fight the whole time.​

So in other words, like the rest of my life has been… one big struggle to prosperity, acceptance, and peace. Thanks God (you asshole!)"​

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The post op regime depends on your surgeon and your body. There's a whole word salad out there about what is the best way to do x or if z makes a difference. Her surgeon actually recommended up to 5x a day which is more than we've seen other girls get. It tapers off after a year, were hoping to get down to 2x a day at some point.

Luckily this surgery is an inpatient procedure so there's a buffer between operation and getting home. I'm so grateful for the hospital stay, it was hell going through it even with the professionals there to keep on top of pain management. Out of the three (FFS and BA) this has been the most involved recovery.

My biggest advice is to prepare easy to make meals for an entire month, get a bidet, and track your dilations and symptoms religiously.

Spoiler: Comment 4

Response from comment:"

Your reaction is normal. You had felt you hurt her, and honestly this withdrawal from intimacy comes from love.​

Talk about it once again, let her know this isn’t forever and that you will be intimate with her as soon as things settle down with the bottom surgery. Sadly it is an open wound that she needs to keep open and should be understanding of it because again, you’re afraid of hurting her.​

Communication is key, talk with her and let her talk to the doctor as well about what happened as recovery is never linear and you’ll be back on track with the relationship and everything involved.​

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I’m sorry there’s a discrepancy between the two of you. Wishing you both the best and speedy recovery"​

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It is a surgical wound she needs to keep open. That is not medical misinformation, that is the truth. It is a surgical incision made to accommodate the vaginal canal. It can close if not properly maintained and without proper dilation procedures.

It won't magically stay open and needs to be treated as the surgical site it is. Losing depth and width or just having it close up all together is a *very real" risk regardless of how healed it is. Saying once it's healed, it's healed is misinformation and sets people up to fail when they wake up and are faced with bloody stitches and swollen bruised flesh. Being there for my partner during the healing process is made even more difficult by people sugar coating the procedure with wishful thinking, as though calling it anything other than a vagina will shatter the illusion. That erases the very real reality that is the neovagina, a surgical site.

Yes it is a vagina, no one is denying that, but it is still a surgically created vagina. The vagina is not at all vagina like in the first few weeks and it's taken the both of us a very long time to look at it as a vagina and not a surgical site. The fact that hardly any one talks about the reality of bottom surgery left us woefully under prepared emotionally and physically.

Treating it like a surgical site does not diminish the vagina in any way but what it does do is prepare people and partners for the emotional and physical work needed to heal and process the changes of their body. Vaginas don't look like that, vaginas don't have stitches and staples, vaginas don't slough skin and graft tissue, vaginas don't crust over with scabs. Surgical sites do those things, surgically created vaginas go through that change. Her vagina is a vagina but it is also a surgical site that she needs to keep from closing.

Another AGP forcing his straight wife into participating in his lesbian fantasies.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

Yeah, he's a rapist. "If you're comfortable with X why are you not comfortable with Y?" Out the door you go, rapey abusive fuck. Edit: she's also about to get booted and banned for stating the fact that it's a surgical site and not a natal vagina. 'Surgically created vagina' isn't good enough for trannies, she should've learnt that from living with one.

As for the amhole videos, of course it's the standard porn pussy spread fake fingering and masturbation, but the second one especially is obvious deflated ballsack skin, both are caverns to nowhere, both have mangled blobs for fake clits. The first guy has seemingly rock solid skin half hemispheres stuck to his chest too, and although I couldn't see an adam's apple, the way his neck tensed when he was busy trying to manhandle the amhole was all male.

They believe their dickflips are perfect because they can sit in front of a camera and watch themselves perform like the women they see in porn, is all. That's all any of the MtF crap is about.

 

[Fapcop]

I’m most concerned if I will still be able to have the same sort of sex I have now with him while I heal.

It’s always the coom with these sickfucks. Even a few months without coooooming seems like an insurmountable challenge, requiring superhuman effort and willpower to them.

Wifey’s “Oh I don’t want to hurt her!” Seems like cope and trying to masquerade the fact that she’s revolted by hubbies stinkditch. And he of course doesn’t care, but keeps badgering her to wear down her resistance.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

“Transwoman” fingered, wife founds out the hard way that it’s a goddamn wound.

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Imagine fingering a woman and pulling your bloody finger out with out goddamn wound tissue attached.

Fucking horrific.

uWu Just womanly things!

I find the reaction of both parties involved in this truly foul scenario to be pretty unusual.

Spoiler: Allow me to elaborate

First, I'm assuming the "NB" preceding the post indicates that the poster is a mentally ill heterosexual female non-binary. She likely has an actual vagina. I find it very improbable that she's not at least somewhat familiar with the sundry effluvia which can be thence disgorged. The trans community are very quick to deploy the hoary old "even cis women!" chestnut when they sense an agnostic in their midst, but there's no goddamn way that this woman believes that "even cis women" routinely experience multiple bleeding proud flesh dingleberries with digital penetration of the vagina.

Instead of recognizing how completely abnormal and repulsive this is and reacting accordingly, however, she immediately takes on the role of transgressor. It's not difficult to imagine, having seen myriad previous examples of troon (mis)behavior, that when she describes him as "very worried" about his ravaged fuckhole, she means that he unleashed a torrent of passive-aggressive bullshit the likes of which we probably cannot imagine and "suggested" that she'd been too rough or is otherwise at fault. He's the one so overcome with gender euphoria that he wanted to open his amhole for business almost two weeks ahead of the surgeon's projected timeline. He's the one who "invited" her to validate him by sticking her fingers into the fetid trench of abjection that was once his genitalia. She outright "asked [him] to guide [her] and tell [her] what feels good and what doesn't". This incident is completely, unquestionably his fault, but she's so completely focused on propitiation that she fucking apologizes to him!

It's also absolutely mind-boggling that she doesn't mention, even in passing, how embarrassed or ashamed he is. Yes, bodies are weird and unpredictable and sometimes slightly disgusting. Having sex necessarily requires us to share the most private parts of ourselves with another human being in a really physical, primal way. Sometimes, it's awkward. There are funny noises or gross stains. Healthy adults can laugh it off when this happens, but there's always that moment, however fleeting, of bashfulness upon realizing that you were unintentionally gross when you were trying to be sexy. This is something far, far more disgusting than an untimely fart or a period that begins a few days early. I think I can speak for us all when I say that having even one unidentifiable agglomeration of putrid matter spontaneously materialize from our vaginas during a sex act would be humbling, at the very least. Most women would be completely mortified in this scenario, yet the only thing this troon seems to be concerned about is whether the mangled flesh between his legs is still fuckworthy.

Finally, it's established that neovaginas have such incredible sensation that many trans women regularly experience hours-long, whole body trembling, screaming sexual climax with the slightest provocation. The average neovagina is so amazingly sensate, in fact, that trans women commonly achieve these remarkable orgasms with no physical stimulation at all. This is basic biology and constitutes yet another way transwomen are superior to their pathetic cis counterparts. Just in case we didn't already know this obvious fact, the poster makes sure to mention that "it felt great for both of us". Of course it did, and I am so very, very bitter and unfulfilled, yet her girlfriend apparently felt nothing as literal chunks of bleeding flesh were ripped out of her unhealed surgically created fuckhole. Sure, that seems legit. Even gynecologists can't tell the difference!