Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Fapcop]

Unusual sure, but not totally out of line for that subreddit.

The non-troons on r/mypartneristrans seem to be divided into three groups.

The “normal” ones: Regular, horrified women who don’t know what tf to do and are still shellshocked after hubby came out.

The true believers: Who sometime actively try to push their husbands “out of the closet” and have some deep seated need for becoming PROUD AND AFFIRMING trans partners.

And lastly:

The caretakers: These are by far the most insane of the bunch, and often post about how they can possibly run intervention for their troon-hun-husband, and neurotic posts about how they’re “worried for her safety”, brake lines being cut, and fantasize about all the horrific, transphobic violence their husbands MIGHT have to endure.

I reckon this lady’s hesitancy is 50% unconscious disgust and 50% “muh poor little delicate flower!” Neurosis.

TLDR: A lot of these chicks are batshit insane.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Unusual sure, but not totally out of line for that subreddit.

Yeah, sometimes I forget and try to use a normal population control, which is sort of useless when it comes to discussing cult members.

I think all of the women who stay with a man who troons out are batshit insane. They have to be. Truly the only sane response to your partner announcing his intention to transition is to run for the hills to save yourself.

I get the impression from some of these women that they choose to stay out of self-loathing. Whether it's conscious or otherwise, they keep their troon partner in their lives to punish themselves. I'm not sure if it's a "you chose this, you are obligated to stay" or a feeling of responsibility for their partner's decision to transition or something else entirely. I guess in some cases it's probably akin to those couples who very obviously hate each other and have for a very long time, but don't separate because they get too much enjoyment out of making each other miserable. They both know they'd be happier without the other around but can't bring themselves to actually get out. Sometimes, it's because they can't stand to see the other party happy, but sometimes I honestly think it's self-hatred. They stay because on some level, they feel they deserve it.

Any thoughts on which troon partner personality from your typology is the most frequent? I am surprised at how often the "caretaker" persona crops up. Women are socialized to be nurturing, but Jesus Christ, ladies. Have some self-respect.

It's also rather interesting how infrequently we hear from men whose wives or girlfriends have transitioned. My suspicion is that most men have a lower tolerance for that kind of bullshit in a relationship.

 

[Fapcop]

Yeah, sometimes I forget and try to use a normal population control, which is sort of useless when it comes to discussing cult members.

I think all of the women who stay with a man who troons out are batshit insane. They have to be. Truly the only sane response to your partner announcing his intention to transition is to run for the hills to save yourself.

I get the impression from some of these women that they choose to stay out of self-loathing. Whether it's conscious or otherwise, they keep their troon partner in their lives to punish themselves. I'm not sure if it's a "you chose this, you are obligated to stay" or a feeling of responsibility for their partner's decision to transition or something else entirely. I guess in some cases it's probably akin to those couples who very obviously hate each other and have for a very long time, but don't separate because they get too much enjoyment out of making each other miserable. They both know they'd be happier without the other around but can't bring themselves to actually get out. Sometimes, it's because they can't stand to see the other party happy, but sometimes I honestly think it's self-hatred. They stay because on some level, they feel they deserve it.

In some cases, definetely.
Sometimes you see these absolute desperate broads who will do anything and everything to ensure their troon partner doesn’t leave.

Like this one:


Who without even a hint of embarrassment confesses that she’s paying for everything including the hormones.
Self hatred must be at play here as well as a desperation to avoid being alone.

And of course, let’s not forget that many of the troons choose a moment where their wive is the most vulnerable to come out. Like right after giving birth or becoming pregnant.

It’s easy to say: “Fuck this! I’m leaving!” But if you have a kid with another one on the way, or your entire financials are entwined, it’s really tempting to say: “Well maybe it won’t be that bad! Maybe I can get used to it!”

Any thoughts on which troon partner personality from your typology is the most frequent? I am surprised at how often the "caretaker" persona crops up. Women are socialized to be nurturing, but Jesus Christ, ladies. Have some self-respect.

Which one is more frequent? I reckon they’re all roughly equally represented though there’s an artificial bias towards the “caretakers” and “true believers” simply because the sane woman don’t stay for long. And quit the subreddit as soon as they recognize how wacky it is.

It's also rather interesting how infrequently we hear from men whose wives or girlfriends have transitioned. My suspicion is that most men have a lower tolerance for that kind of bullshit in a relationship.

I’ve seen a few though there’s definetely not a lot. I reckon mostly because the chicks that are the most likely to catch the mindvirus, aren’t exactly marriage material to begin with

 

[batteredpancakes]

Yeah, sometimes I forget and try to use a normal population control, which is sort of useless when it comes to discussing cult members.

I think all of the women who stay with a man who troons out are batshit insane. They have to be. Truly the only sane response to your partner announcing his intention to transition is to run for the hills to save yourself.

I get the impression from some of these women that they choose to stay out of self-loathing. Whether it's conscious or otherwise, they keep their troon partner in their lives to punish themselves. I'm not sure if it's a "you chose this, you are obligated to stay" or a feeling of responsibility for their partner's decision to transition or something else entirely. I guess in some cases it's probably akin to those couples who very obviously hate each other and have for a very long time, but don't separate because they get too much enjoyment out of making each other miserable. They both know they'd be happier without the other around but can't bring themselves to actually get out. Sometimes, it's because they can't stand to see the other party happy, but sometimes I honestly think it's self-hatred. They stay because on some level, they feel they deserve it.

Any thoughts on which troon partner personality from your typology is the most frequent? I am surprised at how often the "caretaker" persona crops up. Women are socialized to be nurturing, but Jesus Christ, ladies. Have some self-respect.

It's also rather interesting how infrequently we hear from men whose wives or girlfriends have transitioned. My suspicion is that most men have a lower tolerance for that kind of bullshit in a relationship.

Woman are far more susceptible to the sunk cost fallacy to when it comes to relationships. There's a very significant gender discrepancy in risk aversion. Woman being much more conservative in investing than men.

If children are involved this will mean that she's going to have to juggle caring for a child along with working enough to pay bills so her life quality will reduce significantly. We've seen more than a few of these AGPs drop their gross fetish on their unsuspecting wives while she's either pregnant or has a young baby. Right when she's most vulnerable. These men are abusive manipulators and the woman they pick out are mostly the meekest and dependent of the lot.

Basically these woman prefer denial and safety over taking a risk and completely derailing their life. Not insane just weak-minded and coping.

The one TiF example I've seen married a very religious man and had specifically came out after they were married. He basically said in the video that divorce wasn't an option for him and he wasn't attracted to her at all now. I think it was a Truly/Barcroft video but I watched it years ago before I peaked. Even then I realized she had swindled him.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Look at how many women stay with men who beat them, diddle their kids, cheat on them with whores, spend the family paycheck on booze, and so forth.

Like it's easy for me to sit here and have the attitude that these women should run screaming into the night because I see troonery as part of a deep and comprehensive personality rot.

I get that women who are married to troons have a lot to unpack and coming to the realization that your husband sees you as nothing more than a prop in his sexual fantasies is a hard one to come to terms with.

The woman who was fingering her husband and there was a rainbow of fluids coming out? Her marriage is over. She just doesn't accept it yet.

 

[Cloacan]

This was the supposed main advantage of abdominal lol.

I want to ask 'whats up doc' about the paint by numbers carrot penis.

Answers don't say much, it's PPV (Peritoneal Pull-Through Vaginoplasty)

re: that video
I kept expecting he would jam his fingers in and it would start whistling Sitting On The Dock Of The Bay.

Since surgery it's the same, except that because a lot of those same tissues are now internal instead of external it gets even wetter over time.

Just prior he declared no douching anymore, so unsure how that accumulation of seminal fluid is going to age. On a penis that goes rank almost immediately. Cheesy discharge inevitable.

Since surgery it's the same, except that because a lot of those same tissues are now internal instead of external it gets even wetter over time.

lol at every other one being some 1 in a million intersex case. "My penis is buried under 50 lbs of fat, so it looka tiny. That's called 'intersex'"

penetration of inguinal canal

I think that sentence gave me a virtual bladder infection. oww.

If you're going to be somewhat cute, somewhat young, I can understand wanting vaginoplasty. That is, if you think you might have a penetrable future. Middle-aged obese dude does not have that. wtf are you doing dude? I say with all due seriousness: imagine the smell.

 

[One Quick Post]

She got upset and abruptly ended the conversation then told me nevermind, she won't tell me about her feelings next time.

I told her I wasn't comfortable. This recovery has pushed a lot of my comfort levels.
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I wouldn't push her to have sex with me if that were the case.
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I told her I supported whatever she wanted to do, I didn't want to fight anymore about trying to follow the guidelines.

she just defaults back to "Well if you were comfortable with x then why are you suddenly not comfortable with y"

She asks for examples of when she did or said x before but then I give her examples and suddenly I'm bringing up the past and "we've already reconciled that why are you bringing it up" on and on until we are both confused and upset. It's exhausting, I feel crazy sometimes.

CLUSTER B PERSONALITY DISORDER ALERT!
COMMENCE PROTOCOL: VERY FUCKING CAREFULLY GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE

 

[YouGuysAren'tThatSmart]

New Ashton Williams update! She talks about how having the suprapubic catheter in for so long (7 months) has left her with a scar that looks like a second belly button.
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Poor thing, she looks like she's about to burst into tears. Her mouth's range of motion is still clearly restricted.

Lol, was it worth it?! This nigger is killer herself in less than a year.

 

[Fapcop]

Lol, was it worth it?! This nigger is killer herself in less than a year.

This chick is as stubborn as she is batshit crazy.

If her doctor told her tomorrow that her testosterone has given her cancer and she has 3 months left to live, she’d be on the phone the next day to get quotes from undertakers on a gravestone that says: “IT WAS WORTH IT! NO REGRETS!”

 

[Meiwaku]

How much longer before we start seeing pics of hands mutilated to alter the ring fingers? (Which are telltale signs someone is male or female)

Actually it's just the amount of T you were exposed to in the womb. Some women have the same ring and pointer finger length

 

[YouGuysAren'tThatSmart]

This chick is as stubborn as she is batshit crazy.

If her doctor told her tomorrow that her testosterone has given her cancer and she has 3 months left to live, she’d be on the phone the next day to get quotes from undertakers on a gravestone that says: “IT WAS WORTH IT! NO REGRETS!”

Honestly don't know who this is, but can't believe how someone could be this stupid, but I guess you just have to keep doubling down, when you mutilate yourself and turn yourself into a eunuch.

 

[Fapcop]

Honestly don't know who this is, but can't believe how someone could be this stupid, but I guess you just have to keep doubling down, when you mutilate yourself and turn yourself into a eunuch.

Ashton Williams is a chick on TikTok who used to be a perfectly bangable 7.5/10 lesbian, who trooned out, ruined her body with surgery and currently has a rot dog that’s split in half in her pants, all so she can pee standing up.
She’s best known for her stubborn “Yes it was worth it!” Denials, and generates enough cope on her channel to drive a fleet of city busses, if it could be harnessed.

 

[SuperShibuyaFighter]

I find the reaction of both parties involved in this truly foul scenario to be pretty unusual.

Spoiler: Allow me to elaborate

First, I'm assuming the "NB" preceding the post indicates that the poster is a mentally ill heterosexual female non-binary. She likely has an actual vagina. I find it very improbable that she's not at least somewhat familiar with the sundry effluvia which can be thence disgorged. The trans community are very quick to deploy the hoary old "even cis women!" chestnut when they sense an agnostic in their midst, but there's no goddamn way that this woman believes that "even cis women" routinely experience multiple bleeding proud flesh dingleberries with digital penetration of the vagina.

Instead of recognizing how completely abnormal and repulsive this is and reacting accordingly, however, she immediately takes on the role of transgressor. It's not difficult to imagine, having seen myriad previous examples of troon (mis)behavior, that when she describes him as "very worried" about his ravaged fuckhole, she means that he unleashed a torrent of passive-aggressive bullshit the likes of which we probably cannot imagine and "suggested" that she'd been too rough or is otherwise at fault. He's the one so overcome with gender euphoria that he wanted to open his amhole for business almost two weeks ahead of the surgeon's projected timeline. He's the one who "invited" her to validate him by sticking her fingers into the fetid trench of abjection that was once his genitalia. She outright "asked [him] to guide [her] and tell [her] what feels good and what doesn't". This incident is completely, unquestionably his fault, but she's so completely focused on propitiation that she fucking apologizes to him!

It's also absolutely mind-boggling that she doesn't mention, even in passing, how embarrassed or ashamed he is. Yes, bodies are weird and unpredictable and sometimes slightly disgusting. Having sex necessarily requires us to share the most private parts of ourselves with another human being in a really physical, primal way. Sometimes, it's awkward. There are funny noises or gross stains. Healthy adults can laugh it off when this happens, but there's always that moment, however fleeting, of bashfulness upon realizing that you were unintentionally gross when you were trying to be sexy. This is something far, far more disgusting than an untimely fart or a period that begins a few days early. I think I can speak for us all when I say that having even one unidentifiable agglomeration of putrid matter spontaneously materialize from our vaginas during a sex act would be humbling, at the very least. Most women would be completely mortified in this scenario, yet the only thing this troon seems to be concerned about is whether the mangled flesh between his legs is still fuckworthy.

Finally, it's established that neovaginas have such incredible sensation that many trans women regularly experience hours-long, whole body trembling, screaming sexual climax with the slightest provocation. The average neovagina is so amazingly sensate, in fact, that trans women commonly achieve these remarkable orgasms with no physical stimulation at all. This is basic biology and constitutes yet another way transwomen are superior to their pathetic cis counterparts. Just in case we didn't already know this obvious fact, the poster makes sure to mention that "it felt great for both of us". Of course it did, and I am so very, very bitter and unfulfilled, yet her girlfriend apparently felt nothing as literal chunks of bleeding flesh were ripped out of her unhealed surgically created fuckhole. Sure, that seems legit. Even gynecologists can't tell the difference!

With all this talk about how this woman is being emotionally and mentally manipulated by her narcissist brain damaged husband, it made realize something.

Someday (whether it be our lifetime's distant future or after our time), there will be many TV specials and documentaries on the horrors women were forced to endure in these abusive tranny relationships.

I honestly believe this type of crap is the tip of the ice berg, I agree imagine what she isn't saying about this situation, or what she hasn't fully realized herself yet, imagine all the women who are demanded or feel the urge to stay silent about this stuff.

 

[YourFriendlyLurker 2.0]

Any thoughts on which troon partner personality from your typology is the most frequent?

I remember reading abook of one jewish guy who got into concentration camp in early 1940-s and later got out and became a psychiatrist. The most bizzare thing he described was that he and his jewish pals knew what's coming, they knew well that they are gonna end up in camps. They knew where it's going and saw other guys getting arrested and still didn't do shit to flee. Most of people cling to stability till the very end even if this is shit kind of stability. It stretches from extreme cases like people staying in the conflict zones or refusing to leave their batshit abusive spouses to the blatant unwillingness to get your ass off and do something with your sorry existance. And the key shit - people always come up with excuses sometimes coping so hard that they start to believe in their own cope.

I think what most of those women can't really comprehend is that the process happening with their husbands is ultimate. It's not some kink they wanna explore in bed, not some temporary fad they are gonna overcome. Deep down they think that it's gonna be ok if they are patient / understanding enough. The husband starts taking T - well ok, just tablets! The husband's dick is out of equation - well ok, but we still love each other, aren't we? It goes on and on and they don't understand that the man they once loved doesn't exist anymore and perhaps never existed at all. Getting to the truth means shattering the stability you lived the last years (devades?) and it's not something all of us can do that easily.

It's also rather interesting how infrequently we hear from men whose wives or girlfriends have transitioned. My suspicion is that most men have a lower tolerance for that kind of bullshit in a relationship.

Most of TIFs are virgins whose knowledge of the opposite sex is limited by fanfiction. Real men scare and repulse them, also they psychological and communication problems prevent them from enetring any long-lasting relationships at first place.

 

[batteredpancakes]

TiF is trying to mimic the dick twitch lol u/Oemuff

Spoiler: video

Link | Archive

 

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New Ashton Williams update! She talks about how having the suprapubic catheter in for so long (7 months) has left her with a scar that looks like a second belly button.
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Poor thing, she looks like she's about to burst into tears. Her mouth's range of motion is still clearly restricted.

Her hairline has started to receede siginificantly,particularly along the temples.

How long before she posts another cope-video where her head is shaved and she lets us know how affirming is to go bald due to Testosterone (ab)use even if she didn't expect it (although she absolutely doesn't regret it even though it may not be for everyone).

 

[Otterly]

I’ve seen a few claims of being able to control muscles in the amhole, ‘just like a real girl!’ so a few words about that:
The actual female vagina is a fibromuscular structure in and of itself. An amhole is not. It’s a tube created from various tissues, none of which have any muscular contribution. Women also have pelvic floor muscles which support and surround parts of the vagina. Men also have pelvic floor muscles of course. Womens are supposed to have three gaps in, and men two.
A man with an amhole has a hole which was created by pushing through the male pelvic floor muscles. This damages them, but it’s the only way of squeezing anything. Contraction of the male pelvic floor would allow a small area to be contracted around the entrance of the amhole. Very different to what women can do. Troons lie.

 

[Autistic Faggot]

New Ashton Williams update! She talks about how having the suprapubic catheter in for so long (7 months) has left her with a scar that looks like a second belly button.
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Poor thing, she looks like she's about to burst into tears. Her mouth's range of motion is still clearly restricted.

She looks rougher and rougher every time. The receding hairline, the aging face, the gauntness.. not-so-fun side effects of T huh ladies?

She kinda looks like Edward Norton in Fight Club right around when he lost his mind and went full schizophrenic. Life imitates art.

 

[Meiwaku]

I’ve seen a few claims of being able to control muscles in the amhole, ‘just like a real girl!’ so a few words about that:
The actual female vagina is a fibromuscular structure in and of itself. An amhole is not. It’s a tube created from various tissues, none of which have any muscular contribution. Women also have pelvic floor muscles which support and surround parts of the vagina. Men also have pelvic floor muscles of course. Womens are supposed to have three gaps in, and men two.
A man with an amhole has a hole which was created by pushing through the male pelvic floor muscles. This damages them, but it’s the only way of squeezing anything. Contraction of the male pelvic floor would allow a small area to be contracted around the entrance of the amhole. Very different to what women can do. Troons lie.

I think its hard to discern because when a vagina contracts unless you're looking/feeling the inside you can't tell that it's THE WHOLE THING kegeling. So being able to do an outside amhole shot can look believable as a muscle control because he has control of the immediate muscles around the area.

Also lmao the ball sack line and lmao the "inner labia" that go inside the fauxgina and the clit that's buried into a crater in his pelvis like every true and honest waman.

 

[Foxymophandlemama]

Do we have any repository, a masterlist for the fact that this shit is definitely being done to kids?

People keep saying that doctors are not operating under-18 and while I don't know much, I know enough of it to smell the bullshit. Kim Petras at 16, Jazz at 17, Susie Green's son at 16. I've no doubt I just haven't heard of any other high profile cases.
If we know it happened at those times, if we know WPATH has eunuch-fetish perverts on board, if we know blockers are poison, if we know doctors have cut off breast tissue on girls as young as twelve, if we know actual hormones have been given to underage kids, why should I not think there's more going on?

There's this article about a girl that claims she had top surgery with Dr. Gallagher as a minor. If it's true, it is a terrifying reality as their bodies aren't fully developed yet.

Edit: other links

Chest Reconstruction and Chest Dysphoria in Transmasculine Minors and Young Adults​

It appears that some are as young as 13 and 14 year old.​