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My question is : What would everyone rather have rotpocket or rotdog ??
I'd get the nullo surgery. If dog or amhole are the only choices, I'd say rotpocket. As fucked up as they all are, it seems they're less prone to catastrophic multi-system failure and you don't have as many piss pipe problems all rotdogs seem to have. And dogs come with that telltale arm scarring that is both aesthetically and functionally disfiguring. Amholes only disfigure your dick unless your butcher fucks it up and ends up needing to sew in pieces of poop chute.

I think my opinion would change if I'd been born with a dick. Men seem very attached to those little guys.
This amhole is making me laugh nonstop for some reason
Perhaps I'm desensitized from being a viewer of r/neovaginadisasters (RIP) and having read every page of this thread but this one isn't too bad? This is the best result a troon could hope for, visually. Still an open wound made out of dick skin and filled with bacteria-laden hairballs, aesthetically not a gaping oozing Sarlacc pit with empty balls stapled around the sides.
Has anyone else experienced sediment in their urine while having an SP translating into issues during voiding?
It's posts like these that make me deeply contemplate how insane it is for troons and their psycho doctors to mess with such a delicate bodily system. This thread makes me appreciate the simple joy of taking an uneventful piss, how in the immortal words of Todd Howard "it just works." How can they even push out an opiate shit after their crotch has been medically blown up like a firecracker accident? Can't cum, can't shit, the pooners can't even piss. No wonder they're all at such high risk of suicide, I'd kill myself too if I'd done that to myself.
 
My question is : What would everyone rather have rotpocket or rotdog ??

Easy, I'd speed run killing myself.

Option 1) Rot dog. I lose plenty of function in one of my arms, smell like piss, have a useless hunk of flesh slowly rotting away too high up on my crotch, etc etc.

Or

Option 2) Rot pocket. Best outcome, gaping wound where my dick once was with a hole in the wrong spot that's constantly smelling like shit. Worst outcome, I'm slowly dying because the doctor who inverted my dick went back to pretending they don't speak English, but I can't let the heckin Terf Chuds know they were right, so I just complain on Reddit and hoping the asspats save my life.
 
Personal sperg:
Yup ! I had never realised until a good friend died of cancer how much of our health / existence is the piss and shit pipes running properly everyday. That’s what they want to know about in hospital : have you moved your bowels today? Etc. Morbid but when she died that became obvious, at the moment of death everything ‘came out’ and I was aware that that’s what is at the crux of our body just working. Seems obvious but it’s not something you consider until it happens in front of you. ‘The soft machine’ and all that ..
So, yes agreed it would be utter misery to not have a decent piss / shit.. ever again.
Brings to mind Richie (Tulip R) who has been discussed in this thread before has a bend in his urethra now which I believe he has to dilate etc. He has my sympathy as he had serious mental health problems that weren’t addressed before putting him on the surgery track.. totally depressing.
 
I was showing him pics from this thread and Mr kitten had a good question I've never seen asked here and now I'd like to know too.. to build the rot dog why do they take skin from the front of the thigh? Why not take it from the back? Or, he also pondered aloud, even the butt cheek? Why not take it from somewhere less visible?
In addition to the recovery-related problems other posters noted, I know that surgeons avoid flipping patients whenever possible because very serious problems can arise if you try to flip someone who is already anesthetized. Any of the tubes/monitors can get dislodged (the anesthesiologist is specifically tasked with doing nothing but watching the info from these monitors and adjusting drugs so they get rightfully freaked out if they can't tell what is going on), staff can get hurt lifting patients, the surgical field can become contaminated, and patients can get injured from being malpositioned during surgery (think your foot falls asleep or pain from "sleeping wrong" but on a random part of your body, or potentially a worse injury). A ton of these patients are fat, too, which increases several of the risks.
 
u/konnolly has posted about her near-death experience with phalloplasty. Major infection and her abdomen split open + necrotic phallus tip that was amputated. This was in 2020. 60% mortality rate.
In 2021 she had a 'tunneling' wound appear overnight without warning.
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I had a super gnarly experience with wound separation during my multistage delayed abdominal phalloplasty and I wanted to share some of the photos.

First 3 pics are from early 2020, right before covid hit. I developed a major infection (with a 60% 20 day mortality rate) and my abdomen split open. Then my dick tip became necrotic and they amputated it while I was awake and I video documented the whole thing lol. I had a wound vac from February to July.

During that time, I was extensively seen by visiting nurses multiple times a week at my home in addition to seeing my surgeon and another local surgeon who stepped in to assist on top of going to adult daycare for daily PICC line infusions. It was a really suboptimal time to nearly die with covid striking at the same time.

The 4th pic was my second bout of wound separation that occurred in early 2021. The second time, I had a wound vac for 3.5 months. It was a tunneling wound that seemingly appeared out of nowhere overnight. Much less painful than the abdominal wound and necrotic dick tip.

5th pic is present day. Very pleased with my penis. I had 8 surgeries total and have 1 additional surgery scheduled to remove excess scarring on my pubic mound, fix an abdominal dog ear and fix a small dog ear leftover from my top surgery 11 years ago.

It's wild going through old pics and seeing how far things have come. Reflecting, it's all kind of a blur. I was on A LOT of heavy drugs for an extensive period of time and the world was seemingly ending and the slow progression of a multistage surgery wasn't something I could have prepared for.

To summarize, my surgeon basically prepared the abdominal flap during stage 1. Stage 2, my penis was constructed on my abdomen/ upper pubic mound and during the 6 subsequent surgeries, it was moved lower and centralized. All the repositioning surgeries were pretty mild and the recovery was very easy (except for the 2 wound separation situations). My last surgery I went on a 3 month long vacation 2 days after my 1 week post-op appointment and had telehealth follow-ups with my surgeon virtually while traveling.

Might make a huge post at some point documenting the process, if anyone is curious to see how things got from point a to point b. Just wanted to share these gross pics with you to show how you can bounce back from what may feel like earth shattering wound complications. If you're going through wound separation and need support, feel free to reach out.
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Someone in the comments asks how she knew everything was going wrong and this is her reply.

She claims that she got the infection because her nurse picked up her dropped dick pillow and put it back on.
Claims the same nurse tried to impersonate her to get narcotics at the pharmacy and talks about how another transphobic nurse and security assaulted her as she was dying and forced her to leave hospital in the middle of the night in just her gown and IV against medical advice.
Basically, I did 1 night in the hospital after they constructed my penis and was released the following day. Right before being released, my "phallus palace" (the foam donut propping my penis) fell to the ground, and the nurse just picked it up and put it back on. That is how I acquired the shitty infection, as a result of this inept nurses negligence... same nurse who tried to impersonate me at the pharmacy a day later trying to obtain narcotics fraudulently.

Got home and 2 days later, my whole abdomen, groin, penis and right upper thigh started turning super red out of nowhere. No pain, but everything felt warm to the touch. All my incisions looked great at that point, but I called my surgeon and sent pics and they suggested I go to the local ER. Went to the local ER and next thing I know shit went into overdrive.

Was transported from my local hospital by ambulance across the state to get to my surgeons hospital. I was hospitalized for nearly a month before things spiraled even further due to covid and a situation with a transphobic nurse and at that point, security assaulted me as i was dying and forced me to leave the hospital against medical advice in the middle of the night, wearing only a hospital gown and socks in the streets of boston with an IV still in my arm 😅

My surgeon and local care network were great and everyone went into overdrive after hours on the weekend and made other arrangements for me, couldn't have had a better team in that regard. After a few more weeks, they finally found the right type of antibiotic to treat my infection (after trying at least 2 dozen different types). Once the infection got under control, I was able to begin with the wound vac and everything healed up very nicely.

She has a big post of text where she goes into everything in better detail. I'll post it here.
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Dr. Winograd vs. DOC for final delayed abdominal surgery which has nothing to do with my penis.

To preface I had an 8 stage experimental delayed abdominal technique in 2020 with a surgeon who is no longer practicing. I was the first person to undergo this method which has since been discontinued. I think my dick is great in terms of appearance, sensation and functionality and it's not clockable in casual nude settings. I had planned to have just one final surgery to possibly minimally debulk (no more than 1cm) and clean up some scarring on my pubic mound and dog earring on abdomen from the og surgery as well as 1 small dog ear on my right side post top surgery 10 years ago.

My og surgeon was replaced by another surgeon who is named winograd. Had an in person consult today with winograd after meeting virtually last July. Originally I wanted to debulk my dick, remove an abdominal dog ear, a small dog ear from my top surgery 10 years ago and clean up this heavy scarring on my pubic mound which kind of from certain angles make my dick look a few millimeters right of where it should be. The appointment was good. Decided debulking isn't worth the risk (possible loss to penis and/or sensation/ wound healing issues, etc) and with how things have settled over the years, and with some recent weight loss, I just wanted a small girth reduction but the recovery time and possibility of compromising the safety of my dick and its sensation does not seem worth it, so I'm opting out.

He said the scar revisions and dog ear removals are all easily done and very superficial surgeries and that I would only need 1 in person post-op appointment and the rest could be virtual which is great. He also has operating privileges at mgh waltham as well as mgh north shore/ danvers where I had 6 of my phallo surgeries after an extensive nightmare with security and nursing at main mgh and said he'd be happy to do the surgery there. He knew all about my experience and so we talked about that and he was super trauma informed and I really appreciated him taking accountability for system failure, as did my og suregon and the entire mgh trans department as well as infectious disease folks who were heavily involved in my case.

Being the first person to undergo delayed abdominal was rough, and I caught a gnarly multi drug resistant esbl e.coli bsi infection (which has an extremely high 20 day mortality rate) because a nurse picked up my penis cloud when it fell on the floor and put it back on my surgical site. After that, another nurse attempted to impersonate me at the mgh pharmacy to illegally obtain narcotics, then another transphobic nurse accused me of "flashing myself" at her when she walked into my room during my multi week stay at the hospital right as covid struck. I was naked in bed, with my dick necrotic and with a huge abdominal wound (at least a foot long by 1 inch wide by 1 inch deep) legitimately dying and needing to get a picc line for intravenous infusions of 1 very specific and rare medication, after having tried 20 different varieties to fight the infection ... and my partner was with me and there was absolutely zero percent possibility I was sexually flashing anyone. And I was naked from the getgo. Anyway, that spiraled into a whole chain of transphobic events and as a result of my tragic experience they made a lot of fundamental changes for their trans patients as a result. My og surgeon was great the whole time and really worked with me to accommodate my needs and help my accomplish the dick of my dreams, allowing me all virtual appointments and coordinating to have all my surgeries in danvers so I would never have to experience the main mgh campus again. He also took an active role in networking with my local providers and got me linked up with a local surgeon to deal with my abdominal wound debriding and wound vac during the height of covid and I have nothing but appreciation for the way he handled a very troubling situation and his continued reaching out and regular check-ins. I feel that he went above and beyond with regard to my personal situation and I'm very appreciative of my dick, it met all my needs- is passing and I can have sex, and thats really all I wanted.

I've simultaneously consulted with DOC last year and have surgery scheduled for August with him but now I'm heavily leaning towards winograd instead. Winograd's approach for removing the pubic mound scarring was conservative and the risk is minimal and would just involve excision of the old scar and cleaning it up. DOC had a different approach and involved extending the scar more to the left. Winograd said if he did that, it might pull on my labia and cause it to lean leftward (which he demonstrated) , DOC didn't mention that as a possibility with his approach. I love my natal anatomy just the way it is so anything that would even remotely alter its appearance is off the table for me. DOC didn't mention that possibility so now I feel like maybe winograd is thinking about the situation more rationally and getting my vibe more than DOC so I will probably go with winograd who is scheduling 7 months out.

As for some of his stats, he's done at least 500 gender confirming surgeries but the majority were top and breast augmentation. He's done 50-75 vaginoplasties and he's taken over all of my og surgeon's patients who decided to stay. Since then, he has had much success and hasn't lost a penis lol. He did say one person did get an amputation, with no plans to get another phallo so thats the only loss he's experienced and it was purposely requested.

In terms of the urethral shit, which im not pursuing but want to share as is may be relevant to others is that he says the primary urologist they are now using (since the old one left) is a pediatric urologist name Beth, and a handful of times an oncology urologist has stepped in the fill the gap. Multiple people have gotten arm grafts to do UL and 1 person should have their hookup next month which he believes will be successful.

In terms of areas of interest, he said his primary interests were nerves and microsurgeries. His most complicated surgeries relate to thoracic outlet syndrome. Additionally, he is not a baby of nepotism. His great great grandfather was a pediatrician and the only MD in his family lineage though his dad was a practicing orthodontist. For me that was important, I like to know my providers have worked hard personally to achieve their dreams rather than have family name or privilege giving them a leg up.

As for who is with him during surgeries, he said there is always his PA named Angela and then there will be 1 to 2 harvard residents (as with all mgh surgeries, it is a teaching hospital) who are all 4th year residents, they don't do anything beyond their scope of skills or unsupervised and winograd makes all the primary incisions so that was also good to know.

Just wanted to give you all an update.
I had an 8 stage experimental delayed abdominal technique in 2020 with a surgeon who is no longer practicing. I was the first person to undergo this method which has since been discontinued.
my dick is great in terms of appearance, sensation and functionality and it's not clockable in casual nude settings.
A nurse picked up my penis cloud when it fell on the floor and put it back on my surgical site. After that, another nurse attempted to impersonate me at the mgh pharmacy to illegally obtain narcotics, then another transphobic nurse accused me of "flashing myself" at her when she walked into my room during my multi week stay at the hospital right as covid struck. I was naked in bed, with my dick necrotic and with a huge abdominal wound (at least a foot long by 1 inch wide by 1 inch deep) legitimately dying and needing to get a picc line for intravenous infusions of 1 very specific and rare medication, after having tried 20 different varieties to fight the infection ... and my partner was with me and there was absolutely zero percent possibility I was sexually flashing anyone. And I was naked from the getgo. Anyway, that spiraled into a whole chain of transphobic events and as a result of my tragic experience they made a lot of fundamental changes for their trans patients as a result.
 
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No lil pooner, don't do it! Your very masc butterfly tattoo is gonna get ruined dood!
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This is my first post. I got the phone call and email with all the pre op forms, doctors forms, consent forms, etc on March.18th, told to return everything asap. I'm currently waiting on my updated health card with my actual name so I can get the rest done with my doctor and have everything sent off.. I absolutely do not care about UL because standing to pee is a big no for me, just RFF phalloplasty. Honestly not set on getting an ED because I've read other posts on folks having success with penetration without one. I have very little hair on my donour arm and none on my inner arm. So I may not need electrolysis. I know it's not determined but will they definitely be adding the butterfly tattoo to my dick or could they possibly go just under? Yes best to ask them but I like knowing things before because if the tattoo stays I'll be getting it removed before then. Photos attached of my arm as well. I live in Manitoba so if anyone else does hey!
 
I would get a Rumer Amhole, straight to the point, no frills, just a hole and some scar tissue. Those fancy Thai neovags with the bells and whistles always make me laugh.
"Where is my labia minora?!"
"Sir, that is just some repurposed ballsack."
"Where is my labia minora?"
"Hannukah is a ways off yet. Don't worry, you'll find it in time."
*pee-wees playhouse theme beings playing for some reason*

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This is the tool they use to perform those surgeries. The HRT BOOT KNIFE
I wonder what kind of damage an HRT overdose does? That has to be common.
 

This is so horrifying. How is she just existing, taking pics and casually talking about this on reddit? Is it normal to have this kind of open wound on your body and not be in a hospital? You're allowed to just go outside and live your life while your inside meats are exposed and about to fall out of your skin, and it's totally fine and doctors and nurses will just discharge you like this? I kind of feel like my mind is breaking.
 

This is so horrifying. How is she just existing, taking pics and casually talking about this on reddit? Is it normal to have this kind of open wound on your body and not be in a hospital? You're allowed to just go outside and live your life while your inside meats are exposed and about to fall out of your skin, and it's totally fine and doctors and nurses will just discharge you like this? I kind of feel like my mind is breaking.
Yeah, wound care doesn't necessitate inpatient stay. From the text she was having medical treatment ("hospital in the home") as well as attending the hospital/a medical facility as an outpatient for her PICC line.
 
Just wanted to share these gross pics with you to show how you can bounce back from what may feel like earth shattering wound complications.

If that was meant as a PSA and not just as over-sharing, that is entirely the wrong conclusion to draw from the horrorshow.

security assaulted me as i was dying and forced me to leave the hospital against medical advice in the middle of the night, wearing only a hospital gown and socks in the streets of boston with an IV still in my arm 😅

Pooners can be annoying and nurses transphobic, but in what hospital in a major US city does a security guard get anywhere near a „dying” patient to assault them for funsies? How is a „dying” patient able to make such an important decision competently, yet not pull on a pair of pants or put on shoes? I’d say [X] to doubt, but this goes way beyond that. It’s another ridiculous fantasy to justify another stupid life choice.
 
To preface I had an 8 stage experimental delayed abdominal technique in 2020 with a surgeon who is no longer practicing. I was the first person to undergo this method which has since been discontinued.
I think we might have found the Proto-ElephantDick.
I'm pretty sure this is Cetrulo's first victim.
He did say one person did get an amputation, with no plans to get another phallo so thats the only loss he's experienced and it was purposely requested.
Yeah this was Cetrulo's first victim alright.
I think this one they're taking about is ElephantDick herself.
 
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I think we might have found the Proto-ElephantDick.
I'm pretty sure this is Cetrulo's first victim.

Yeah this was Cetrulo's first victim alright.
I think this one they're taking about is ElephantDick herself.
Looks like it
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I had delayed abdominal phalloplasty with dr. Cetrulo . Beginning January of 2020 (edit: i originally typed 2000) and finishing November 2021. I've had 8 surgeries. Actually have a 9th surgery scheduled next year for pubic mound scar revision. I'm like 5 x 5 inches.
Damn I never thought we'd get to find out about patient guinea pig no.01
She's as delusional as I'd thought she'd be though.
I think this one they're taking about is ElephantDick herself.
Interesting that it says ElephantDick wasn't interested on getting another rotdog. She was probably lying because she didn't want him to offer to do it and she's too much of a meek woman to decline to his face.
 
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Damn I never thought we'd get to find out about patient guinea pig no.01
She's as delusional as I'd thought she'd be though.

Interesting that it says ElephantDick wasn't interested on getting another rotdog. She was probably lying because she didn't want him to offer to do it and she's too much of a meek woman to decline to his face.
Her mentioning she had "delayed abdominal phalloplasty" caught my attention, especially when she said the Butcher wasn't practicing anymore and the procedure has been discontinued. As far as I know Cetrulo invented and was the only guy attempting the procedure he used and he's basically abandoned it and ghosted all the women he fleshcrafted tentacles on. Seems the surgeon she sees now is the poor fuck who has had to attempt to pick up the pieces of Fabius Bile's Cetrulo's insane experiments.

Confirmed it for me when she she has a scar in the same place as ElephantDick does around her waist, and when she said another patient had gotten their "dick" amputated, although as far as I know ElephantDick was wanting it replaced with the usual flesh roll. After all the shit she had with her fucking trunk I don't blame her for telling the guy removing it she was done, obviously the heccin' valid manly dudebro isn't quite heccin' manly enough to just tell the surgeon she wants someone else to do it, unless she's since come to her senses and decided to leave well enough alone. If having a fucking Lovecraftian tentacle grafted to your stomach isn't enough to put you off you're a lost cause.

I also never thought we'd find patient victim 0, quite a find.
 
No lil pooner, don't do it! Your very masc butterfly tattoo is gonna get ruined dood!
This is my first post. I got the phone call and email with all the pre op forms, doctors forms, consent forms, etc on March.18th, told to return everything asap. I'm currently waiting on my updated health card with my actual name so I can get the rest done with my doctor and have everything sent off.. I absolutely do not care about UL because standing to pee is a big no for me, just RFF phalloplasty. Honestly not set on getting an ED because I've read other posts on folks having success with penetration without one. I have very little hair on my donour arm and none on my inner arm. So I may not need electrolysis. I know it's not determined but will they definitely be adding the butterfly tattoo to my dick or could they possibly go just under? Yes best to ask them but I like knowing things before because if the tattoo stays I'll be getting it removed before then. Photos attached of my arm as well. I live in Manitoba so if anyone else does hey!
Normal pooner arm. Complete with self harm scars. The classic "ribbed for literally no-one's pleasure".
 
Puts a new spin on ‘never going back again.’
Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow could be the Pooner Cope anthem.

This is so horrifying. How is she just existing, taking pics and casually talking about this on reddit? Is it normal to have this kind of open wound on your body and not be in a hospital? You're allowed to just go outside and live your life while your inside meats are exposed and about to fall out of your skin, and it's totally fine and doctors and nurses will just discharge you like this? I kind of feel like my mind is breaking.
She's fine with it because it's not really painful. Her fleshlog has basically no sensation.
 
Pooners can be annoying and nurses transphobic, but in what hospital in a major US city does a security guard get anywhere near a „dying” patient to assault them for funsies? How is a „dying” patient able to make such an important decision competently, yet not pull on a pair of pants or put on shoes? I’d say [X] to doubt, but this goes way beyond that. It’s another ridiculous fantasy to justify another stupid life choice.

She's totally delusional. I don't believe a word of the 'transphobic nurse' or the tried-to-steal-my-meds or the assault. I also highly doubt that the massive infection came from her dick donut touching the floor. Those damn open wounds tend to get infected no matter what you do or don't do with them.

The biggest tell, though, is the picture of her torso splayed open and half her arm stitched onto her crotch like something out of the Human Centipede. SHE WAS HEALTHY. She had that done, not because she had cancer or was in a horrible accident. Because she thinks her BRAIN IS MALE. Goddamn, that's a horrific thing to have done for no. medical. reason.

P.S: As of the time of this post, I checked on Babysoots (aka tripleditch), he's still missing, 6 days after his last post.
 
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