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"He's not taken seriously in the Israel/Palestine world" -Guy who ignored the conflict up until 6 months ago and has sourced all his info regarding it solely from wikipedia.

He's ass blasted.
 
He's ass blasted.
He is trying to mentally manipulate/prep his parasocial fanbase to think he won before the debate is released where I am sure there will me multiple moments of him getiting BTFO'd.... but since he has prepped his fanbase prior to the release of the debate, they will know the talking points to defend their edaddy's honor.
 
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"He's not taken seriously in the Israel/Palestine world" -Guy who ignored the conflict up until 6 months ago and has sourced all his info regarding it solely from wikipedia.

He's ass blasted.
I can’t speak on Finklestien since I’m not knowledgeable when it comes to him or politics or certainly middle eastern history but I agree just because you crammed for a test and decently passed it (if that’s the case) its not what I’d call a triumph. What did you do? Study for years and years making it your life’s work to engage in a debate where you could express this insight and erudition you’ve studied a long time or did you shove a bunch of Wikipedia info down your throat in a few months to regurgitate it for the debate. I can praise Tiny’s memory of things he reads, I can paise him being articulate in expressing what he’s retained but thoroughly knowledgeable and proficient, fuck no. However I’d be remiss to ignore the argument of optics, like Destiny wrecked him and the sad part is Finklestein made this his career and passion. It would be disappointing to see a so called expert be out-done by a streamer who studied a few months, but that’s speaks more to Finklestein’s ineptitude as an older man debating a younger, more heated and resolute person rather than Destiny being superlative in this group.
 
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"He's not taken seriously in the Israel/Palestine world" -Guy who ignored the conflict up until 6 months ago and has sourced all his info regarding it solely from wikipedia.

He's ass blasted.

I caught a few of his research streams and don't know where this perception comes from that he only read Wikipedia articles. Makes your side look retarded. He started out with wiki but has read a ton of international law, articles and even books on stream. He interviewed Benny Morris and talked with lots of other people. To say he only reads wikipedia is stupid
 
I can't see little stevie reacting like this if he looked good in teh debate.
I can definitely see it if he got frustrated enough, and it seems like most, if not all, of his research was pretty much worthless for the debate. But I do agree, the debate didn't go as he would have liked to.

Full logs of Destiny's thoughts regarding the debate:
(Starts from the bottom, "Finkelstein is actually retarded LULW", and scroll upwards)
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I never expected him to get humiliated but saying he lost the debate is obviously going to trigger him so I hope that's the overriding consensus. This is such a morally loaded subject that, in general, people won't be convinced either way and just back whoever is arguing their side.

I caught a few of his research streams and don't know where this perception comes from that he only read Wikipedia articles.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with reading Wikipedia articles, especially when you follow up and read the linked sources. The problem with what Destiny does is he's trying to min/max his understanding of a decades old conflict by memorizing factoids to suit his narrative. He started with a conclusion and has done everything he can to enforce that narrative in his head.

I've mentioned these before but just to re-iterate incase it happens on the lex video - this is a largely emotional topic that Destiny is trying to "facts and logic" his way out of. I'm not going to get too into it, but the easiest example is talking about the food/aid situation in Gaza right now. Destiny, for some reason, will staunchly argue against there being any sort of famine or food insecurity in Gaza, despite every aid agency involved saying that it's an issue. Destiny just doesn't believe them and demands people film starving babies with bloated stomachs in 4K to even give it a shred of credibility. He read a Wikipedia article about famine in Yemen and now his brain can only think of things in relation to that.

Basically, this is how conversations with him go:
"There are serious issues relating to malnutrition and aid in Gaza right now"
"Is there really? I haven't seen any evidence of that. Besides, did you know that 80 years ago some Palestinian diplomat turned down a peace deal with Israel? Palestinians don't even want peace and deserve everything that's happening"

On another note, Kaceytron is still down BAD about Destiny. In Hasan's discord:

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Some youtuber drama:

one of the many debate cuckolds Noah Samsen made a video on his Israel tweets:



He's also been dragged into some drama by massive youtuber Ludwig, who bent the knee to crybaby Hasan and deleted/reuploaded his video. In order to make up for his transgression (i.e, not agreeing with everything Hasan says), Ludwig decided to pin random abusive tweets on Destiny, despite Destiny agreeing with Hasan's original take.


 
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with reading Wikipedia articles, especially when you follow up and read the linked sources.
But then you are only going by the same biased sources wikipedia has.

Some people claim wiki is ok if its looking up band members of some 70s synth rock band, as its not contentious or controversial, less likely to be manipulated.

Now, do you think the page on the Israel Palay affair is a contentious subject? Do you think it might be one of the most hotly argued debates for the last 60 years?

Even bothering with the wiki shows a desire to only tow the line, which we already know.

He has never won a debate in his life, because he has no opinion, just shit he read someone else say. You may as well argue google, exactly the same result.
 
But then you are only going by the same biased sources wikipedia has.
This is true, but my general point is it's a good place to start. If you care enough to actually check the sources you're probably aware of the biases that the source material may have, and that should allow you to follow up with other sources. The autists that contribute to Wikipedia are also worse than the autists on here, especially when it comes to things like maths or physics. Obviously things will tend to slant in one direction (especially when a certain nation state pays propagandists to Post Online), but imo it's good to get an overview of subjects.

As @KekwPrime mentioned, he finally launched the first episode of his "Bridges" podcast with the charisma vacuum that is NotSoErudite. His first guest was some subreddit moderator and it's getting slaughtered by his fans. Obviously the notoriously thick skinned, hardened debater is responding to this by banning everyone who's talking about it:


This is how the youtube page looks, with all the fucking test streams they did still listed:

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Here is the tweet they put out to promote it:


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Reddit threads shitting on the graphic:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1b40ng5/bridges_today_5pm_est/


I caught a bit of jstlk's stream and wolfgangad was saying that he made it and didn't see what the problem is with it. It looks like someone has followed a beginner photoshop tutorial in 2012 to make a forum signature. Also the fact that erudite has posted a screenshot of the image (you can see the white bar at the bottom) and not the actual image is an additional treat.

Here is what people are critiquing:

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Some of things that are awful:
  • The glare on the art
  • The random, scattered art
  • Fan art of the hosts themselves is super weird and narcissistic
  • Framing of the shots (tiny literally looks like a child)
  • Different dress-codes (why is she wearing a fucking blazer?)
  • The table looks cheap and reflects the light/blends into the panels
  • The felt panels make this look like they've set up some mics at a conference booth
  • The bits of paper with sharpie written on them
Destiny has been planning on starting a podcast for over a year now, but this one specifically:

NotSoErudite
To be clear, people have been saying a year as a meme. I pitched the idea in late August and wasn’t even in Florida until early October. So it didn’t actually take a year. But also yes the whole set up looked like ass and needs a massive overhaul totally agree


Iirc, Destiny is taking this fairly seriously and him and Erudite have set up an LLC and are 50/50 partners. The impression is that Destiny has done literally 0 work for this, probably because he's "too busy" with "work" to bother, but Erudite has admitted it flopped and is going to rework things:

@notsoErudite

Holy fuck. I am staying in Miami I guess and gonna have to do a whole work over. Thank you to everyone who’s been kind regardless! Will be working on fixing up everything bottom to top! All I can control is myself and my reaction to life.

lol sorry if that seemed melodramatic and vague posting . Context. Episode 1 of Bridges sucked and I need to tweak a number of areas to make episode 2 stronger.
 
Banning people who have legitimate criticisms whether they are harsh or constructive, which seems to be the mixture, is the ultimate pussy move, what a little bitch lol. People are also complaining that because he’s rich he should have better optics, but have you guys seen what he wears to public engagements? Are you surprised that he doesn’t put in effort to other things in his life?
Also as far as NSE, I agree this is not the ideal environment for her rhetoric. I actually find her to be a very informative person and the areas that I like her in is the red pill space or more combative type guests that don’t have the same ideas or values that she does. When I saw her on F & F , I was incredibly impressed with her because she was able to articulate her thoughts/opinions in a very calm and persuasive manner with these people who generally spout retarded nonsense ideals, they tend to get worked up easily at any push back and tend to surround themselves with a bunch of relatively uneducated, pick me women and she handled them all like fucking mommy. I’m not super interested in listening to a bunch of people jerk each other off because they all believe in the same shit and there is zero contention, if that’s the case then they all have to be big personalities with charisma and humor and they all bounce off each other well to keep my interest, I don’t care about Ohio canvassing type interview formats, boring as fuck.
 
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I used to think Hasan had the dumbest fanbase of all breadtubers, but now I'm wondering if Destiny has him beat. They're all praising Ethan Klein for having the bravery to come out and say what we're all thinking but few dare to utter in hushed whispers: that "zionist" is an antisemitic slur and that antisemitism is surging all throughout the west.
His subreddit is just r/Israel 2.0. It was getting suggested to people in Israel and has had a massive influx of propaganda posters who don't even know who Destiny is. His little reddit jannie 4THOT encourages it because he has family in the IDF and unironically wants to genocide Palestinian people.
 
This is how the youtube page looks, with all the fucking test streams they did still listed:

you know it was a shitty fucking show when there was barely 1k watching this. idk why they thought having a serious tier academic podcast was going to be good, it was boring ad shit and it seemed like the lady was more into it than tiny.

i bet this is another attempt to give someone tiny wants to fuck something they want in order to fuck them and Erudite is unaware and just doing what she wants with this project
 
His subreddit is just r/Israel 2.0. It was getting suggested to people in Israel and has had a massive influx of propaganda posters who don't even know who Destiny is. His little reddit jannie 4THOT encourages it because he has family in the IDF and unironically wants to genocide Palestinian people.
That makes a lot of sense. I was a bit surprised by the amount of people praising Ethan for his bravery and insight, as if accusing Israel's critics of antisemitism isn't so worn out and hollow t's basically a meme at this point. It's also telling that when BLM pulled the same "everyone's racist against us" card Destiny and his fans rejected it for being a cheap generalization with no substantial evidence, but now that it fits his contrarian center right bad boy image they're all suddenly fine with those kinds of charges.
 
Cuckstiny has a girl over; he's making an active effort to hide who though. He has the black curtain covering the background of his apartment, and he's using the AFK screen whenever he goes to the other room, both of which he usually only uses when he has someone over and the person doesn't want to be seen on stream.
He started stream until 4:20 pm, Miami time, and seems to have gone to sleep until very late in the morning. He was tweeting https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1763853111418921443 at 4:05 am, Miami time. At 10:26 am, Miami time, he was on discord mobile. Either he stayed up until around that time or he woke up for a short time, checked discord, and went back to sleep.
Lycan brought two food plates, again, confirming there's someone else in there.
I have some thoughts but I'll wait a few days.
 
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