Goonclown Steven Bonnell II / Destiny / Destiny.gg - Emotionally Unstable Manchild, Creeps on Teenagers, Incest Supporter, Degenerate Foot Sniffer, Cum Felcher, Gooner

[Brap God]

But I think the point I'm really trying to make is that I think it's odd that Vaush/Hasan fans didn't come in here to hate on Destiny when those breakups happened.

Most Vaush and Hasan fans don't step outside the confines of their reddit or discord community safe space. And if they do it's either to astroturf or brigade another subreddit. If they wanted to gossip about tiny or someone else, likewise you'll probably once again find them in one of the drama or snark subreddits which are basically the farms, but for the most raging of homosexuals.

 

[Pepsi Vs Coke. Fight!]

Wesbtw said she booked him in a really shitty hotel, and wes is fucking hilarious. Pretty terrible of her if you ask me.

I do like Wes. Unfortunately this doesn't cross the threshold. But keep your eyes peeled for me, boys. I'm ready to get back in the game.

I'm just gonna say it Hassan is definitely the bottom all Turkish men or bottoms

Damn dude, I can't believe you just came out and said it. Most of us try to tip toe around it, but you just went all in. There's no limits with you, are there?

Most Vaush and Hasan fans don't step outside the confines of their reddit or discord community safe space. And if they do it's either to astroturf or brigade another subreddit. If they wanted to gossip about tiny or someone else, likewise you'll probably once again find them in one of the drama or snark subreddits which are basically the farms, but for the most raging of homosexuals.

I didn't think about that. I suppose if you were a Destiny fan and you wanted to go as hard on Destiny as Sargon's wife's son just went on Hasan, this would be the best place to do it.

I have no idea who Abby is but Destiny gets insanely uncomfortable. Someone fill us in:

Wes and Dan really fucked up by not getting Destiny drunk. They need to get him drunk and then ask these kinds of questions since Destiny drinks like a teenage girl having her first Smirnoff Ice

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Damn dude, I can't believe you just came out and said it. Most of us try to tip toe around it, but you just went all in. There's no limits with you, are there?

I do have no filter and that information is confidential which means I used to have a flaming homosexual friend in high school and he would explain these things in great detail to me without prompting.
Yes apparently white men are on the top of the homosexual hierarchy Middle Eastern men are somewhere near the bottom apparently blacks are lower than them and Asians it goes depending on the Asian.

 

[Wicked]

I have no idea who Abby is but Destiny gets insanely uncomfortable. Someone fill us in:

I did some searching in dgg chat, multiple people are saying she was Darius' roommate. I'm sure Blav will be able to figure it out if I'm incorrect.

Possibly this girl, she follows Darius and Ahrelevant is in the photo.

Photo with Darius below.

Her instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/abbylizmc/?hl=en

Edit: Forgot to mention her Instagram says she's in Texas, I'm pretty sure that's where Darius lives.

 

[Pepsi Vs Coke. Fight!]

Damn this creepy fuck hears "will fuck anything that walks even Wes" and his dick springs to attention like some kind of divining rod.

A small divining rod. Very small.

Those canvasing events have to smell terrible if everyone is just passing everyone around.

 

[Guyspleasedontfight]

So

No one here cares that Destiny is banned. We probably all think it's funny. Literally none of us are saying we hope this leads to Destiny being unbanned. But inconsistent application of rules grates at autistic people, and kiwifarms is full of them.


All of a sudden 4Thots hatred for Lav makes sense. He's staring deep into that dog's eyes, praying for it to make the first move. It drives him crazy that she got to fuck her dog and it's just a fantasy for him. This guy has probably written down every piece of dating advice Destiny has given on stream, hoping for the right combination of words to get that dog to want to fuck him.

I’m legitimately curious, I’ve seen some of your other posts and you’re saying that destiny owned this Owen guy. I’ll come out and say that I hate destiny and I was never retarded enough to actually enjoy listening to him like you were. As a former sycophant can you tell me what about destiny makes his supporters so deranged and cultish? I haven’t watched the Owen debate and I could care less about whether you think destiny won or lost. I just have never seen a destiny supporter admit that he lost a debate, even in the super obvious cases (such as his debate with metokur where he wanted to have US planes bomb Mexico). I’ve seen destiny win debates, and lose them but I’ve never seen any of his supporters ever admit it no matter how poorly he did. I just don’t see this sort of blind devotion for pretty much any other “political” internet figure. Can you shed light on why his defenders are so ardent? Ive seen destiny’s bullshit for close to a decade and his cultist followers don’t seem to have any less energy.

 

[Blav]

I also can't remember if it was @Blav , one of Blav's alts, or someone else that was theory crafting if Destiny gets pegged, but Wes asked him if he's ever been fucked in the ass and he just stared straight ahead without acknowledging the question.

Yeah it was me. It was his response to Awnuh that made me think he unironically gets pegged.

I have no idea who Abby is but Destiny gets insanely uncomfortable. Someone fill us in

I'm sure Blav will be able to figure it out if I'm incorrect.

Yeah she's one of Darius' roommates, Darius was fucking her when him and Xena were taking "breaks" (don't know what else to called them since they broke up and made up so many times) if I'm not misremembering.
Wes although funny, gets extremely rapey when drunk, and he got weird with Abby once, if I'm not misremembering, during one of Darius' streams.

Abby also kissed Erobb (Tyler1's brother) during a party, or something like that. Darius spoke about it on stream and speculated that might have been the reason why Erobb and his kid's mother broke up, that angered Erobb which made him confront Darius irl which led to a fight.

Not surprised that she has fucked Tiny tho.

*Edit:
Not really important, but the new batch of women following Tiny are Ethan Klein fans, so I'm sure Tiny is grateful to Dan, mainly only for that, since that's the only thing that this degenerate coomer cares about.

I'm kinda feeling like I've rested enough, and since BabyPeach is still at it and I've kinda given up on the subhuman stopping I'll try to get her exact building too. I'll also do the extremely annoying and tedious thing of stalking hundreds of Michigan retards that went to her same school to try to find her family and real name.
I genuinely wish death on this person, really hoping a Detroit nigger kills her in the most humiliating way possible.

Obviously, I already wrote the people I'll be trying to dox.
I also just checked jstlk's discord for the first time in a month, and one of his retarded jannies (I think it was Tape?) disgustingly accused me of being esportsbatman (he's a lawyer with a squeaky voice that has been a Tiny chatter/member of his community for a long time), which angered me, so blame Peach and Tape for the newests doxes I'll be doing, obviously, Tiny himself is the most to blame tho.

Won't be carrying them out fast, as I've lost interest in the topic and I'll only be doing them because I want to keep my word, so expect them throughout the next month. I'll also see what else I can dox about Layna and the people around her, but I'll wait for her to fly back to Canada for that one.

As a former sycophant can you tell me what about destiny makes his supporters so deranged and cultish?

I think there's many reasons for this:

• Livestreaming naturally forms that kind of relationship between viewer and streamer.
• Online politics is basically a team sport, team sports just lead to that kind of behaviour, we are wired that way.
• Destiny culls his community. I disagree with Max (mrgirl/mrpedo) that Tiny self-saboges so he can stay out of mainstream so they don't know he's a creepy sex addict, I think he does that because he's a self-sabotaging retard. But I do agree with him that he purposely culls his community. It's not even the "permabans", as most of them aren't really permanent, it's the large amount of bans that he does, eventually you just learn to type a mocking emote "PepeLaugh" instead of actually arguing with him whenever he's saying something extremely retarded, and even then he bans those too, so you learn to stop typing altogether whenever he's being a retard.
• The community is very self isolated, with a very strong "Us vs Them" mentality. Whenever someone starts acting in any way as "Them" the other chatters notice and start to ostracize you slowly.
• Destiny is extremely manipulative, both in his private life and in his work. In the same way as he convinces the retarded whores that he cares about them he does the same thing to his viewers, except that what he tries to convince them isn't that he cares about them but rather that he cares about the topic he's talking about at the moment.

Tiny's fans are deluded into thinking that he actually cares about politics in any way, as I'm sure that Tiny himself has deluded himself too, so when people call him a grifter and a retard they easily dismiss that person as being unaware, not knowing what he's talking about, and that person is the actual grifter and retard instead.
But it's all about ego and his sex life, Tiny doesn't have any hobbies, no real dreams, doesn't even care about money that much, he only cares about the coom, it's the only constant in his life.

He's genuinely a husk of a human being.

 

[Pepsi Vs Coke. Fight!]

So

I’m legitimately curious, I’ve seen some of your other posts and you’re saying that destiny owned this Owen guy. I’ll come out and say that I hate destiny and I was never retarded enough to actually enjoy listening to him like you were. As a former sycophant can you tell me what about destiny makes his supporters so deranged and cultish? I haven’t watched the Owen debate and I could care less about whether you think destiny won or lost. I just have never seen a destiny supporter admit that he lost a debate, even in the super obvious cases (such as his debate with metokur where he wanted to have US planes bomb Mexico). I’ve seen destiny win debates, and lose them but I’ve never seen any of his supporters ever admit it no matter how poorly he did. I just don’t see this sort of blind devotion for pretty much any other “political” internet figure. Can you shed light on why his defenders are so ardent? Ive seen destiny’s bullshit for close to a decade and his cultist followers don’t seem to have any less energy.

I'm probably not the best person to ask. I've never been a DGGer in the traditional sense. I don't use the discord, I don't use reddit, I don't watch him stream, I generally just watched him on youtube. I'm a left leaning person insofar as I generally oppose most wars, I support social programs, and I believe in treating people respectfully and looking out for each other. (This is why I have so many conflicts with some of my behavior in this thread.) But I also have a great amount of respect for art/creativity and allowing people to take risks when it comes to creativity. So I don't lose my mind if someone uses a racial slur when they're making a joke and it really bothers me when people try to restrict other people's speech. I try to look at people's intentions rather than just making blanket rules about what you can and cannot do. I would say overall, this is fairly similar to Destiny's viewpoint on things. Or at least, it was when I found him in 2021. I don't actually believe Destiny has a consistent worldview.

Since I typically separate the words people say from their actions or what I think their intentions are, I have a very easy time with a lot of things that people like Hasan, or Destiny, or mrgirl say. For example, right now people are taking Hasan saying that "the rapes don't matter" out of context. He's not saying he doesn't care about rape, he's saying that the bad actions of bad actors don't diminish the cause that they're fighting for. Or when Destiny talks about a potential for ethical CP, I don't think he's saying that CP is ethical, I recognize that he's just exploring thought experiments on ways that CP could potentially be ethical.

You will see me disagree with arguments even if I agree with his overall point Probably the most obvious example was his view on trans people. Personally, I treat trans people how they want to be treated. I don't misgender them, I try not to mock them unless they're nuts. But I don't view them as real women because I wouldn't sleep with a trans woman. So when Destiny makes arguments about how words mean different things to different people and are complicated, I will attack him, because he doesn't apply this same logic to the word cuck. I think he has retarded arguments for trans people. And i think he has retarded pro-abortion arguments even though I'm pro-choice.

I'm probably more in alignment with Destiny politically than I am with most other influencers, but I don't have much respect for him because I think he's too inconsistent and self serving. I think he believes what he says when he says them, but I think he'll change his mind very quickly. So, you'll see me criticize his yapping about Israel/Palestine. I won't derail this thread with what side I take on Israel/Palestine, but I am likely to talk about how Destiny shouldn't be taken seriously when he'll argue strongly in favor of Palestine when he was speaking to Lauren Southern, but then change his mind later. I don't think DGGers should take him seriously because you can't trust that he'll spend a significant amount of time learning about anything before he'll start yapping and he's very inconsistent. Let's say he's got the correct position on Israel/Palestine today. Isn't it problematic that he was so fucking sure of himself when he was arguing with Lauren and giving his retarded fan base arguments against Israel?

I've seen people like WhickTV or his DGG Footsoldiers cover for Destiny by saying, "heh, so he learned more about something and then changed his mind. You think that's a bad thing?" Yes. I do. Because he was speaking very confidently a few years ago, influencing a ton of people, and now he's going in the other direction and influencing more people. How do you know he's right now? I don't think most DGGers actually care whether he is or isn't right, I think they'll just go along with what he says because they're in a cult.

You know how they say that people hate in other people what they see in themselves? I think Destiny's hatred for Donald Trump and MAGA is 100 percent related to the Trump behaviors he sees in himself and the cultish MAGA behaviors he sees in DGG. Seriously, between the whoring, narcissism, self serving behavior, monuments to his ego, refusal to take accountability for anything etc, etc, you can see a ton of parallels between the two of them. It's actually crazy to me that no one has ever mentioned that to him before.

As for whether he wins or loses debates, I think he wins them more often than not. But I also know that debating is a skill. You can be wrong and still win a debate. If you spend any amount of time listening to Libertarians debate people, they win more often than not simply because they know how to control the conversation. For example, they will argue that taxation is theft. They make it hard to argue against that. So they'll win that argument with a lot of people unless their opponent says that theft is better than the alternative. Otherwise the libertarian is controlling the flow of the debate to be about the definition of theft.

So I don't put that much stock into that. I utilized Destiny in the same way I utilize Sam Seder or Dave Smith. I listen to them talk, they will say something I might not be aware of, I'll look into it more and see if I agree or not. I just happen to agree with Destiny more often than not.

Edit: My major issue with Destiny is that I think he's a bad person. He reminds me of a person I know whose motivations and behaviors were not immediately obvious to me. I think some people are very very good at obscuring their real reasons for saying and doing the things that they do and now that I see them I have to point them out. I noticed it a lot during the mrgirl saga and thats why I decided to start commenting on it. And I think he engages in some of this behavior during his debates.

Edit 2: There are definitely instances where Destiny has lost debates. The early posters in this thread were correct when they said that Destiny will call something a "conversation" instead of a debate when he loses. He was clearly outclassed by Zheanna, Martin Shrkelli, and the first conversation with Ryan Dawson.

And I will also say that I think that the criticisms from former fans probably bother Destiny more than the ones that come from conservatives. He's said before that when you get attacked by people on your side that it hurts more. I do think this thread is served very well by having people who politically agree with him.

TLDR: Destiny is a short cuck loser who can't keep a wife or friend and he lost to Mr Metokur and Naked Ape and also he abandoned his son and thank god he did because he's also a pedophile so we wouldn't want him near a kid anyway.

 

[the clap]

Of the ones I've watched, Destiny lost against:

• Mr Metokur
• Martin Shkreli
• Ryan Dawson
• Sargon (lol seizure)
• JFG
• Naked Ape
• Andrew Wilson
• Candace Owens
• Norman Finkelstein

Destiny won against:

• Vaush
• Eric Striker
• James Allsup
• Zoom
• Tonkasaw
• David Pakman
• Sam Seder ('buckets of cum')
• theSerfsTV

Destiny is gay for:

• Hasan Piker
• Nick Fuentes
• Lauren Southern

 

[Code Cave]

Yeah it was me. It was his response to Awnuh that made me think he unironically gets pegged.

I wasn't going to clip it but if it helps a blav theory count me IN

Wes saying how cringe Destiny's DMs are, Destiny dodges it:

Wes brings it back on track, "maybe you should target other women":

Destiny saying he likes girls with a "college vibe":

I take this as him basically falling for the ramona flowers meme, which also explains why all the prostitutes he flies out are young girls who are terrible at art. However, people can (and will) interpret this in whatever way they want. I'm sure the 'skype logs' section of the thread will view this as a 35 year old, twice divorced, deadbeat dad admitting he likes chasing college girls (not untrue tbf).

Any time he says the fake boobs/fake lips women are disgusting/gross, I am reminded that he paid for this botched monster to live with him earlier in the year

Spoiler: awnuh

Wes also asked him about sleeping with both Denims and Bella (yellow spoon girl) and he was extremely cagey about it, I'm not clipping that though.

 

[Blav]

I wasn't going to clip it but if it helps a blav theory count me IN
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Wes saying how cringe Destiny's DMs are, Destiny dodges it:
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Wes brings it back on track, "maybe you should target other women":
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Destiny saying he likes girls with a "college vibe":
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I take this as him basically falling for the ramona flowers meme, which also explains why all the prostitutes he flies out are young girls who are terrible at art. However, people can (and will) interpret this in whatever way they want. I'm sure the 'skype logs' section of the thread will view this as a 35 year old, twice divorced, deadbeat dad admitting he likes chasing college girls (not untrue tbf).

Any time he says the fake boobs/fake lips women are disgusting/gross, I am reminded that he paid for this botched monster to live with him earlier in the year


Wes also asked him about sleeping with both Denims and Bella (yellow spoon girl) and he was extremely cagey about it, I'm not clipping that though.

I couldn't finish those last two clips, way too cringe.
I would blow my brains out if this was me as a 35 year old man. Wes is 100% right.

Funny how the jew who's having his midlife crisis by trying to destroy a streaming site (based) and has 12k hours of his life wasted in Rust, and the fat retard who makes dick/pussy jokes and travels to Thailand to fuck ladyboys, seem to be aware of this fact, but the goblin looking thing who gets fucked in the ass lacks total self awareness of how this behaviour (even for a 25+ year old man, let alone a 35+ year old man) is completely embarrassing.

 

[Lords Greatsword]

Of the ones I've watched, Destiny lost against:

• Mr Metokur

That debate was fucking gold, still remember having it on in the background and laughing my ass off at the absurdity his proposals for the border issue escalated to.

 

[dezazlop]

Of the ones I've watched, Destiny lost against:

• ...
• Norman Finkelstein

Best part about this one was that after it, finkelstein came off as a guy who had one bad day when dealing with a retard, and mr bonelli just kept his status as a debate bro that is not ready for the big boys table.

 

[Brap God]

"At least the girls that like the cat faces don't have fake lips and fake tits, fake boobs and fake fucking asses."
This is the mother of all cope. He can never in good faith accuse someone of being delusional without being the biggest hypocrite on the planet. As insufferable of a faggot as Wes usually is, I must thank him for baiting the gnome into full retardation. More people need to start needling him about his creepy obsession with women that act like teenagers.

 

[S. Key Leton]

I take this as him basically falling for the ramona flowers meme, which also explains why all the prostitutes he flies out are young girls who are terrible at art. However, people can (and will) interpret this in whatever way they want. I'm sure the 'skype logs' section of the thread will view this as a 35 year old, twice divorced, deadbeat dad admitting he likes chasing college girls (not untrue tbf).

insane how he fucked up in those 3 clips, literally the most suspect answers you can give (or not give at all)

on side note, shortfatotaku released video about Jan 6 that Destiny always wanted to - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzMTeopD6f4

embarrassing for Gnome that dramatuber did his job quicker, better and without so much wasted time on "research"

 

[CrunkLord420]

I look at the Destiny thread for 1 second and I'm immediately reading about January 6th. Something I never heard about, ever. Only Destiny and his circle of people have mythologized J6 to the point where you can call it "J6" and have anyone know wtf you're talking about.

I can't believe people are still contorting themselves into knots over an unscheduled boomer tour, lmao.

 

[#FF0000]

 

[Pepsi Vs Coke. Fight!]

Of the ones I've watched, Destiny lost against:

• Mr Metokur
• Martin Shkreli
• Ryan Dawson
• Sargon (lol seizure)
• JFG
• Naked Ape
• Andrew Wilson
• Candace Owens
• Norman Finkelstein

I disagree with a lot of these, but not really because I agree with Destiny. I mostly just think his opponents usually don't do a very good job. I'll just use Metokur as a quick example, but I could do it with Naked Ape, too.

I listened to about 50 minutes of the two hour call with Metokur this morning and Metokur was on the backfoot for most of the debate. For example, at first Destiny and Metokur argue over whether or not Trump actually got lobbyists out of Washington. Destiny pointed out that Trump had a fair number of lobbyists in his cabinet and Metokur asked him to name names because he didn't believe him, which Destiny couldn't. But he said that even Trump agrees he has lobbyists in his cabinet and they played a video where Trump talks about how he doesn't like lobbyists but then when he was pushed on it by the interviewer, he admitted that he does actually have a lot of lobbyists in his cabinet because that's all there are. Metokur didn't have an argument for how Trump doesn't have a ton of lobbyists. And the obviious question is, why is Metokur arguing this point if he doesn't actually know what he's talking about?

After he eventually agreed that Trump did have lobbyists and Destiny used Bernie Sanders as an example of anti-lobbyist politician, Metokur said that Bernie probably also had lobbyists because he has 2 houses and a couple of Audis. IIRC, he was probably referencing that 4Chan meme. And Bernie's second house came from his wife's family. So you would only think Metokur made a good point if you're not following up on his claims. If you ARE following up on his claims, he seems like kind of an idiot. For Metokur to win this part of the debate, he would really need to demonstrate that Trump didn't have lobbyists and Bernie Sanders took lobbyist money. He didn't do that.

After that they spend a long time arguing over what Trump meant when he said that Mexico wasn't sending their best. Destiny made the point that Trump framing Mexicans as violent criminals is bad, and Metokur argues that they're definitionally criminals because they're breaking the law to be here. Which doesn't really have anything to do with what Destiny said and isn't what Trump was saying. So this is another point where I don't know how you could say Metokur did a good job whether you agree with him or not. He never adequately argues that the illegals are mostly dangerous or that the ones who are would outweigh the benefits of illegal immigration. Then he asked Destiny how he knows that most illegals are here for work, which is on its face one of the dumbest things I've ever heard asked in a Destiny debate. It was a poor showing.

I can go through the rest of it to provide examples but I suspect it's going to turn into a political debate, which I'm not really interested in. I'm commenting on why people would not consider those losses for Destiny even if he said some retarded shit about bombing Mexico. Some of what he was saying were clearly jokes and some people in this thread are too autistic to catch on. Like saying we should have islamic terrorists embedded into the cartels probably wasn't a serious proposal. I don't think anyone needs to agree with Destiny in those debates, I just think they should also recognize that a lot of his opponents are retarded and do a bad job.

Anyway, that's why the more liberal members of this thread focus on other things. I probably won't respond to anything else about this , because I'm not really interested in defending Destiny. Which I'm actually not, I'm mostly insulting his opponents which isn't quite the same thing. I just want to clarify why some of us don't focus on Destiny's debate topics, we'll usually focus on what a cum sucking foot licker he is.

Best part about this one was that after it, finkelstein came off as a guy who had one bad day when dealing with a retard, and mr bonelli just kept his status as a debate bro that is not ready for the big boys table.

Like for this one I think they both come off as retards. Finkelstein came off like an immature child, and Destiny came off an arrogant cunt who is disingenuous because he spent weeks talking shit about Finkelstein and then acting surprised when Finkelstein treats him like a child. And then Destiny wanted to play victim over it like he wasn't the one who poisoned the well. (Like he did with Sam Seder, Emma Vigeland, etc) And Destiny looks even worse when you consider that he has demonstrated himself as someone who will argue a point without knowing much about it, IE the Israel argument he had with Lauren. He could agree with Norm 15 years from now.

Though I might agree that Norm technically won because he accomplished his self serving goal and Destiny did not accomplish his self serving goal.

insane how he fucked up in those 3 clips, literally the most suspect answers you can give (or not give at all)

on side note, shortfatotaku released video about Jan 6 that Destiny always wanted to - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzMTeopD6f4

embarrassing for Gnome that dramatuber did his job quicker, better and without so much wasted time on "research"

It's because SFO is in a long term committed relationship and doesn't have spend a significant amount of his time questing for young dumb pussy.

 

[Hirbowedge]

I’m legitimately curious, I’ve seen some of your other posts and you’re saying that destiny owned this Owen guy. I’ll come out and say that I hate destiny and I was never retarded enough to actually enjoy listening to him like you were. As a former sycophant can you tell me what about destiny makes his supporters so deranged and cultish?

I don't want to become the Estaban defender of this thread. Reporting the idiocy from his subreddit was one of the reasons I even made an account here in the first place. And even when I was a fan, I don't think I would qualify as a footsoldier and I resent the accusation of being a sycophant. I never gave him any money, never used his Discord, never actively used his chat. I used to watch his Vods all the way back in Starcraft days and continued sporadically as he transitioned to other content.

To answer your question, for most issues, Steven doesn't have his own opinions. He just wants to be correct.

The 'truthiness' of a statement in our modern society is determined by academia and 'trusted institutions'. If you read Moldbug, this superstructure can be called the Cathedral. These institutions determine what's true, what's false, what's moral and what's immoral. To highlight what this means using a historical contrast; rather than looking at the Bible and the Christian tradition to figure out if it is acceptable to reject a migrant at the border, modern society looks at a professor of migration studies. Even if the average person in the past couldn't read the Bible, or the average person today has never read an issue of Journal of Migration Studies, these things disseminate to the population through osmosis.

So if you are carpet cleaning collage dropout who just wants to be correct, you just parrot what the Cathedral says. If it says hormone blockers are totally fine for kids, they are. If they say migration is good for society and the economy, it is.

It's not even a bad strategy. For vast majority of people, you are supporting your arguments to the foundation of societal reality. If you want to argue against him, you need to undermine this whole structure. You need to explain why you don't give a shit about the totality of social sciences, and why they can just be discarded.

To be clear, I don't give a shit about what some social science academic says about most things. I think 90% of humanities is total bullshit. But to win against Steven in a debate, you need to coherently argue this point. Because he's going to come at you with 5 different studies from Harvard and Yale and use the institutional prestige of the whole Cathedral to discredit you.

A debate where one side argues that trannies should be removed from society, because they are disgusting sex pests, and the other side just parrots what NYT and Harvard says, ends with the second guy winning: because most people still place value in the brands of NYT and Harvard.

Even if you know that trannies are disgusting sex pests, you still need to argue your point.

 

[Brap God]

Who "won" an internet debate is largely irrelevant anyway. Nothing of value is achieved when one side's nigger out-argues the other side's nigger. Mr. bologna and Finkelfuck can have 50 debates over the I/P conflict, it won't amount to anything in reality. (outside of lining their pockets)