Goonclown Steven Bonnell II / Destiny / Destiny.gg - Emotionally Unstable Manchild, Creeps on Teenagers, Incest Supporter, Degenerate Foot Sniffer, Cum Felcher, Gooner

[Baap]

@Destiny you still got molested as a kid btw.

Can I please have the lore behind this?

 

[Phantom Kant]

Destiny’s actions often reveal a disconnect between his stated principles and his behavior. Whether it’s spite-driven decisions, disrespectful conduct, or dishonest behavior.

We don't disagree too much on the previous points, except for one or two things. But I think it's worth reiterating my position on this specific issue, which is the crux of my initial post, albeit a bit pedantic.

The disconnect between stated principle and behavior is a false appearance that only holds up if one ignores what Steven's fundamental (and stated) principles are. In a roundabout manner, which I explored more in-depth previously, Steven is, or at least has convinced himself to be (and thus arguably must almost also be so), a truth-seeker. These truths, however shallow, have led him to hedonism, and thus any appearance of dishonesty (as conforming to 'secondary' principles) is easily dismantled when one realizes how they conform to his primary metaphysical positions. Steven might not be the brightest tool in the shed, but he realizes the role that philosophy plays in grounding downstream decisions (notably here in the sphere of a politics, at least an order of magnitude below ethical axioms).

Steven hasn't made any significant effort to hide this fact, and I believe he actually quite enjoys entertaining others' realization of it (notably with Blav), there's a sort of intellectual perversion at play, but that merits a proper dissection.

Can I please have the lore behind this?

I'm fairly certain Blav was the first to hypothesize or at least propose this seriously, he recalled hearing it from Destiny in a stream that he couldn't find anymore. I don't believe these clips were ever discovered, but some evidence to support this were some vague tweets where Destiny could be interpreted as alluding to understanding the experience of sexual trauma by virtue of having been through it. You can find the original posts by going through Blav's post history.

 

[StrangerMe]

Can I please have the lore behind this?

Destiny's molestation is pretty much something that a lot of regulars sort of remember that he has talked about only a few times, and hasn't really mentioned it in depth for a long time now.
The vods from those years have been almost entirely lost forever since a bunch of the channels that were used in youtube as "vaults" for his vods were mass reported by groypers and Hasan fans during the thousand times that he has fought with those communities.
If anyone has those vods it must be the dgger called Ofelia, as she was the person who ran the most complete Vault channel of Destiny vods.

So recovering the clips that we are talking about is pretty much impossible.

However, a lot of us remember Destiny talking about a situation in which an older kid either overpowered him, or held him at knife point, Destiny was extremely vague about talking about the situation, however some of us interpret it as he having been molested by the older kid, however, you can also find other people in random Destiny threads from many years ago saying that he didn't really mention anything sexual happening.

I do remember claims of an "older boy holding [him] down" with vague allusions to a sexual nature, but this could be used to describe anything from full blown rape to he was playing with a friend who got a stiffy.

Here Noom Boom (another thread regular) talks about remembering the exact thing, also mentioning about how vague he was.

However, I'm of the personal opinion that he did get molested. There's also some people who remember something about him mentioning a situation with his uncle, but I really have no recollection of that one.

It seems like every time that he has talked about it he has been vague enough that either the autistic people end up interpreting the story as him getting molested, or the autistic people end up completely missing the subtle implication of the molestation, and I'm too autistic to decipher whether my interpretation of the story is correct in an objective, definitive, manner.

However, the reason why I think my interpretation is the correct one, that he was molested, is because there are little hints about it.
When he's debating with someone topics regarding rape/molestation he gets really involved, however, he doesn't seem to weaponize it either way, will never mention whether he has had a similar experience or not.
HOWEVER, if someone tries to invalidate his opinion saying something like "why are you talking about this, you've never been through something like this" he starts to seethe extremely hard, almost like a person who's trauma is being invalidated.

Also, I believe it was Pepsi who made reference about it once, that during a conversation with Brittany Simon (I believe it must have been when he's justifying the idea that trauma from rape/molestation is mostly socially constructed) Destiny argues that getting beat/jumped is probably worse than rape. I believe he states however, that he has never been jumped/beat up, but he completely avoids mentioning whether he has been raped/molested.

Destiny having been molested also explains why he personally believes that rape/molestation trauma is largely socially constructed, Destiny completely avoids-supresses things so instead of being the kind of person that brings up his trauma in every occasion he's the type that downplays it and constantly says it wasn't really that bad.

A separate time in which he discusses trauma being socially constructed is with Aella (this must have been before the Brittany one, and likely what triggered the Brittany one a few days later).
Aella tells the story about how once when she was escorting she had a client that treated her very rough, and she hated the experience, but she didn't think of it as rape and although the experience bothered her she wasn't traumatized in a "rape" sense by it, however, when she told her friends about the experience they all explained to her that she was actually raped, and that after having received all their feedback that's when it actually started to affect her and she actually felt "raped" (I hope I'm not butchering my recollection of this convo with Aella, as I have only listened to it once, and it's all from memory).

After that Aella explains how there's tribes in which when the boys come of age, to become "men" they have to suck on the tip of the penis of the elders, or something like that, and although it's technically molestation/rape that they don't seem present any trauma by it. So by the end of the convo both Destiny and Aella agree that trauma is almost entirely socially constructed.
I talk about this specific example with Aella because both Aella and Destiny are avoidant personality disorders. Both would react to trauma as downplaying it and if they aren't "affected by it" then it must be that it's all entirely socially constructed.

It's kinda the reason why Destiny has stated multiple times that he hates therapists/psychologists, as he feels they try to convince him stop supressing his feelings about his traumas, when he thinks he's genuinely simply not traumatized by it, at least not in a debilitating way.

So in short, whether Destiny was molested or not has pretty much become a choose your own adventure option, as people remember different things about it and there's no way to prove it as the vods have been lost.

In rustlesearch if you search back you can sometimes find people referencing it, but you have to search between all the retarded memes about Day9 raping/molesting Destiny to try to find a serious convo about when Destiny was talking about what actually happened when he was a kid, but it always devolves into memeing so not even with the logs can you accurately figure out what Destiny was actually saying at the time.
The reason why I mention his molestation as much as possible is because he can't help himself, he's compulsive about keeping up with the thread, so I just make sure to always remind him about it (it's extremely fucked up, which is why I only started to do it after Destiny became irredeemable in my eyes).


Also, Destiny is cartoonishly manipulative, to a level in which it's completely deranged, and the most likely explanation is that it comes from some sort of trauma, and to quote Tiny's favorite TV show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijuzvl8tv8k&t=237s

 

[zerocult]

However, a lot of us remember Destiny talking about a situation in which an older kid either overpowered him, or held him at knife point

I remember a stream where he mentioned this. If my memory is correct it was when he moved to California to his second apartment, the one he was in when he got the Displate sponsor and had those metal posters behind him, not the apartment where Denims slept with Atlas that had the stairs in the background. I remember him saying the older kid pinned him down with a knife and him saying he had the scars on his back. I wish these vods or clips can be found because I know I'm not crazy lol.

 

[loldggL]

I remember a stream where he mentioned this. If my memory is correct it was when he moved to California to his second apartment, the one he was in when he got the Displate sponsor and had those metal posters behind him, not the apartment where Denims slept with Atlas that had the stairs in the background. I remember him saying the older kid pinned him down with a knife and him saying he had the scars on his back. I wish these vods or clips can be found because I know I'm not crazy lol.

I also recall this stream.

 

[StrangerMe]

I remember a stream where he mentioned this. If my memory is correct it was when he moved to California to his second apartment, the one he was in when he got the Displate sponsor and had those metal posters behind him, not the apartment where Denims slept with Atlas that had the stairs in the background. I remember him saying the older kid pinned him down with a knife and him saying he had the scars on his back. I wish these vods or clips can be found because I know I'm not crazy lol.

Yeah, I believe that must have been the most recent one/last one.

In rustlesearch you can find people arrive to the same conclusion during one of his retellings of the story back in 2015, or at least I'm assuming it was one of the retellings, as again, it's hard to even identify from logs what was actually being talked about.
But in this single screenshot you can see the same thing happening, some people say he was hinting that he got molested, others meme about it, and others say that no such thing was mentioned. (Again, I wouldn't rely on this screenshot as proof tho, as I can't even remember if this was one of the streams I was thinking of)

*Edit:
Also, I believe I've mentioned it multiple times, but although I constantly joke about Tiny's molestation. I don't really find the topic to be funny, making fun of someone's molestation or rape I think it's extremely fucked up.
That's why for 90% of my posting in the thread I never even mentioned his molestation even tho it was something I was always aware off, I only started to do it because Destiny will extremely often weaponize extremely personal details about someone to try to hurt them, Destiny is pretty much the exception to all my morals (I know how immoral, and hypocritical that is to even say and admit).

But I genuinely do believe that you can't deal with someone like Tiny by "playing fair" or being ethical.

Well, Melina is the other exception, but I will always fight to the death about my hatred for her being justified. Destiny has always been a degenerate, but Melina basically enabled all his worst traits and set him lose to the world. So not to remove any blame from Destiny, but I do believe that a lot of the reasons of why Destiny acts the way he does currently is because Melina enabled him.

Well, I don't think I should go into too much detail, because I don't want to antagonize Melina too much since Destiny is the actual most immoral person regarding all the recent "happenings", but "someone" was talking not too long ago about how Melina was who taught Destiny to do the taping everything, and fucking all their friends, Destiny simply took it to the extreme by secretly starting to record people and sending the videos without consent, and by sleeping with everything that has a pulse, no matter how immoral it is.

 

[Nothing Worth]

I've learned so much about Destiny being molested today. Thank you for telling us all about how Destiny was molested!

 

[the clap]

He certainly got raped by Norman Finkelstein

 

[net and yahoo]

Spoiler

Okay, I turned the camera off - what do you want to really say now

Well, well, well. It comes naturally with Steven. He just can't help himself.

Has the statue of limitations expired on this one boys?

 

[Datman]

Destiny copes about people comparing his drama with Hasan, saying it's just "personal stuff."

https://youtu.be/tjOLEPmk7NY?t=7310

Nigga it's literally a public lawsuit involving people who were frequently featured on your stream that you've provably lied about on multiple occasions and omitted information about (Pxie's intent, your subreddit post). You could twist this same stupid argument in defense of Tim Pool with the Tenet media stuff and it would hold just as much validity. Both of these situations (the tenet media and Destiny scandal) both hold serious implications on their credibility with respect to being honest with their audiences. Also isn't consent something that he'd constantly talk about on stream?

Not to mention, some of the leaks show that you were willing to platform, and change your views for, a now confirmed Russian asset in exchange for romantic and sexual benefits - If that's not something that's not a "politically" relevant critique that directly impacts your content than idk what is.

 

[Nothing Worth]

Not to mention, some of the leaks show that you were willing to platform, and change your views for, a now confirmed Russian asset in exchange for romantic and sexual benefits - If that's not something that's not a "politically" relevant critique that directly impacts your content than idk what is.

Case in point: Hasan's 3 million dollar house and the way he spends his money.

Usual preface, Hasan is bad and awful and shouldn't have a platform.

Destiny and co. love showing the contrast between Hasan's stated values (collectivism, elimination of billionaires, leftist authoritarianism) and how he actually lives his life. Hasan is spoiled and shallow and is perfectly happy with the status quo because in this system and his stated ideal system he would be okay. Hasan is fine with consumption and exploitation. These criticisms of Hasan are valid.

Likewise, Destiny talks about consent and respecting women (to an extent). If we hold that liberal values allow for men and women to freely give their consent either interpersonally or by virtue of their vote then someone who openly violates consent and maliciously records and logs people should have no place talking about these topics broadly and be taken seriously. If we operate from the idea that women can and should earn their place in the workforce given the opportunities and necessary respect then someone who disrespects women and platforms only women who have been sexually useful to him should not be taken seriously.

If everyone is in it for themselves, whether that's Destiny's penchant for sex crimes or Hasan's spending habits or Tim Pool's Russian connections than all things are equal. A commentor with a criminal history has no leg to stand on when their opponents biggest moral failings are, to date and until proven otherwise, not crimes.

 

[EntropyIsInevitable]

Destiny copes about people comparing his drama with Hasan, saying it's just "personal stuff."

https://youtu.be/tjOLEPmk7NY?t=7310

Nigga it's literally a public lawsuit involving people who were frequently featured on your stream that you've provably lied about on multiple occasions and omitted information about (Pxie's intent, your subreddit post). You could twist this same stupid argument in defense of Tim Pool with the Tenet media stuff and it would hold just as much validity. Both of these situations (the tenet media and Destiny scandal) both hold serious implications on their credibility with respect to being honest with their audiences. Also isn't consent something that he'd constantly talk about on stream?

Not to mention, some of the leaks show that you were willing to platform, and change your views for, a now confirmed Russian asset in exchange for romantic and sexual benefits - If that's not something that's not a "politically" relevant critique that directly impacts your content than idk what is.

So much for the "Live your morals" guy, what a fucking faggot lol, this molested retard can talk shit about hasan living in a mansion all day, but if we talk about how his lifestyle is treating woman as subhuman filth that lives just to entertain his worm dick, now thats personal and not okay, kill yourself Destiny.

Also it is funny how to destiny every single woman that turns against him it's because she got rejected.

Anavoir, chaeiry, lauren delaguna, this random person that he was talking weeks ago that was clearly thisting for his ugly dick and totally not baiting him at all! What a feminist! Saying every woman that had bad interactions with you are either vengeful rejected whores or gold diggers(pxie).

 

[Baap]

chaeiry with some word salad on twitter:

https://x.com/itschaeiry/status/1886479508124975464 | https://ghostarchive.org/archive/DiYyH

 

[Gabriel Apostate of Hate]

chaeiry with some word salad on twitter:
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https://x.com/itschaeiry/status/1886479508124975464 | https://ghostarchive.org/archive/DiYyH

I disagree. I think that is an apt description of the coomer gremlin himself. Tiny is extremely interested in preserving his image of this logical, moral, and reasonable liberal. As much as its memed on, he DOES want to be the Joe Rogan of the left. That is why he constantly purges wrongthink in his community, to make sure that image is preserved. The only thing that is held higher than that image is cooming.

 

[Datman]

Destiny and co. love showing the contrast between Hasan's stated values (collectivism, elimination of billionaires, leftist authoritarianism) and how he actually lives his life. Hasan is spoiled and shallow and is perfectly happy with the status quo because in this system and his stated ideal system he would be okay. Hasan is fine with consumption and exploitation. These criticisms of Hasan are valid.

Highlighting his hypocrisy, and his hypocrisy with respect to his stated VIEWS on hypocrisy (e.g. his Vaush debate on living your values) is certainly valid to point out.

I think what needs to be pointed out more, since I'm starting to she it crop up worryingly a lot, is just how shallow the "it doesn't impact his politics," or the "separate the art from the artist" arguments actually are in this case. There is a deference between retrospectively appreciating a piece of art (e.g. a Roman Polanski movie), and doing something that either purposefully or unintentionally enables the vehicle that allows a bad actor to continue whatever their misconduct that they've shown to be a pattern of behavior.

To use an example - One of my favorite horror movies growing up was Jeepers Creepers. The writer and director of that movie, Victor Salva, is a well-known pedophile and groomer. My appreciation for that movie is not at all impacted by this fact as it isn't really doing anything to enable that behavior. Lets say however, hypothetically that I continued to this day to promote his NEW movies and projects, then i think that changes how justifiable it is. I use Victor Salva as an example because he has, in the past, directly used his position as an director to sexually groom and abuse child actors in at least one of his movies - Even going as far as to direct scenes a certain way that that but the child actors in more "reveling" positions and outfits.

The point being, you can directly tie his work as being what enabled his misconduct since it gave him access to a child actor he was able to get close to because he was friends with the parents. (a better example to use would probably be dan schneider since his case was even more of a pattern of behavior, I'm just more familiar with this one)

So yeah, TLDR - Loan-Her-Box is a fucking retard for saying you can do the "separate the art from the artist" shit to whatever overlap there is with his and Destiny's community.

 

[Nothing Worth]

So yeah, TLDR - Loan-Her-Box is a fucking retard for saying you can do the "separate the art from the artist" shit to whatever overlap there is with his and Destiny's community.

This kind of thinking is also in framing it as "the artist is dead." That you, the consumer of art, are the only arbiter of the qualities of the art regardless of the artist's original intent. This isn't a wrong framing where applicable re: enjoying art but this is nearly impossible in the modern age. Artists themselves use their life experiences to explain the art they create and even if they try to erase themselves from the work they are still present within it. i.e. I can understand why all of Woody Allen's movies are about faux cosmopolitan ideals with put upon dorky leads and screeching women because the main character is a Woody Allen self-insert.

You can enjoy art that is done by a bad person or has a taboo subject as long as you aren't defending the artist and you understand what little thing it says about you if you're actively seeking out and consuming the work.

The whole problem is the political is personal. We cannot arrive at political positions without having some kind of life experience or profitable grift leading us there. Steven and Destiny are not separate people; Destiny is not a character on stream with a made-up backstory about his wacky sex life. Destiny uses his life experiences to minister to others. Is debate the artform in question? It doesn't matter. It's all a cope to justify putting eyes on him and money in his pocket without having to self-examine why his content is more important than your time and integrity or just plain admitting that you like his content without shame.

 

[twitter clout chaser]

I wonder if tiny knows what he's gotten himself into with empathychan...she's currently throwing jetneptune of fishtank fame under the bus for trying to fuck her, has screen shots and voicemail recordings etc.

i wonder how much shit she has on tiny...

 

[kendoubleyou]

We don't disagree too much on the previous points, except for one or two things. But I think it's worth reiterating my position on this specific issue, which is the crux of my initial post, albeit a bit pedantic.

To be mean. Your posts suck and don't make any sense. I'm not going to make an arguement, just state basic facts that I hope will get through to you.

Destiny engages in purposeful intellectual dishonesty constantly. He's much more concerned with the image of being intellectual than actually being intellectual. This is because destiny is the archetypical egomaniac. His main goal isn't to be the smartest, it's literally world domination. He wants to control everything. He considers himself to be God. He needs influence to get to that position, and in order to acquire that influence he thinks he has to construct a public persona of a godlike genius type.

He isn't even intelligent, he's a master manipulative and is willing to do whatever it takes to get to the top and sit on a throne of skulls. You seem very confused about the guy, hopefully this helps.

 

[Goku 1000000 O]

Little did we know, Trump is Destiny’s greatest alog.

Suffah Blav

 

[Code Cave]

https://x.com/itschaeiry/status/1885934500292509867 | https://ghostarchive.org/archive/56gJV
Some random clips:
"I've fucked with a lot of people on twitch, no-one has ever come out and ever accused me of being rapey.."
"I probably was in the early 2010s.."

Joking (?) about selling a Lauren Delaguna sextape that she didn't know about:

Personal favorite, he would agree with this tweet if "multiple women that were coming out with accusations" against him :

https://x.com/DatKatee/status/1632522369842413568 | https://ghostarchive.org/archive/dFsad