Goonclown Steven Bonnell II / Destiny / Destiny.gg - Emotionally Unstable Manchild, Creeps on Teenagers, Incest Supporter, Degenerate Foot Sniffer, Cum Felcher, Gooner

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Thinking it's dumb to jail 15 year olds for fucking other 15 year olds is not the same as wanting to fuck 15 year olds.

Goddamn pedo apologists are dumber than the peds they defend.

Its okay, the girl I diddled was 15 three years ago when I was 25.. I'm 28 now so I think I should be forgiven for asking for nudes and jacking off to them. Should be a year limit on being a pedo then I can chase some more underage ones, I might even go for a 10 year old next.
~Destiny probably
 
I never really post on here, I kinda just read threads and giggle to myself like a fucking exceptional individual but sometimes I just can't keep my mouth shut.

Let's be real here. A lot of European countries are reasonable and have age of consent set to 14-15-16.
(might I add that not a single one of these countries has problems with teen pregnancy like Arkansas, Oklahoma, Texas etc.)

Does your moral compass rely on US Law? Is that where you get your absolute righteousness from? I can enlist to go into an active war at 18 but I can't have a fucking beer. US Law is obviously very far behind because of exceptional religious bullshit.

So is it really that fucking wrong to find a well endowed teenager that matured very quickly attractive? Fucking hell.
Whelp, we found the Islamist. Wonderful.
 
I haven't caught up on this thread, what's he been up to? Has Steve been caught giving a five-year-old the five finger fillet yet?
 
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I never really post on here, I kinda just read threads and giggle to myself like a fucking exceptional individual but sometimes I just can't keep my mouth shut.

Let's be real here. A lot of European countries are reasonable and have age of consent set to 14-15-16.
(might I add that not a single one of these countries has problems with teen pregnancy like Arkansas, Oklahoma, Texas etc.)

Now the logs of that skype group have been posted on Pastebin in 2012, it might even be older than that. Destiny is like what? 28-29 now? That was 6 years ago. In most European countries him having sex with that girl would've been legal.

Does your moral compass rely on US Law? Is that where you get your absolute righteousness from? I can enlist to go into an active war at 18 but I can't have a fucking beer. US Law is obviously very far behind because of exceptional religious bullshit.

So is it really that fucking wrong to find a well endowed teenager that matured very quickly attractive? Fucking hell.
Some people already said and it may as well be said again: those laws are there so a 15 doesn't get in trouble for banging a 15 year old. That's different from say a 50 year old fat fuck wanting to bang a 14 year old.
 
Ok so you retards don't actually do any research.
You kinda just spout shit that seems reasonable to you and hope it's right.

UK - as long as the person is not in a position of authority(police officer, teacher, counselor) they can fuck a 16 year old.

Germany - as long as person is not over the age of 21 they can have sex with a 14 year old.(This is somewhat like what you had in mind, except to a much larger age gap)

Austria, Bulgaria, Estonia, Hungary, Italy, Montengro, Portugal
- As long as you're not in a position of authority an adult can have sex with a 14 year old.

There's way more laws like this but I couldn't be bothered to go through all of them. Most countries have the same thing 15-16 and as long as they're not in a position of power.

Source - Wikipedia
If you select a country underneath the text you will see a link to that country's penal code.

As to my preference. I could never fuck a 14 year old. I'm 22, the age difference is getting to creepy levels, their not experienced enough and the sex is probably awful. 16 year old thots tho I'm cool with that. They'll fuck your brains out and thank you for it.

Yes, because they're not "matured" by any meaningful metric dude. The legal status of an act does not in any way reflect upon the morality of it, and that aside the main reason for the legal age of consent in such countries to be so low is so that people of that age can fuck each other and not get in trouble for it. It's not for grown-ass people to go cradle-robbing, which you even suggesting that it is is the reason why people like myself are for more nuanced "Romeo and Juliet" style laws to be implemented instead so that we don't have people extrapolating from the fact that it's legal the entirely fucking wrong message.

Edit: Was a bit too harsh the first time round.

You're the only one that gave a reasonable, not moronic, response so that's why I decided to reply again in the first place. The "maturedness" is determined by the penal code. And most penal codes in Europe decide that when they define the word "child" as someone below the age of 13.

I know this seems like it's all sorts of wrong and that the people that came up with these laws are degenerates. But I assure you psychologists and doctors have advised cabinets when these laws were written.
 
As to my preference. I could never fuck a 14 year old. I'm 22, the age difference is getting to creepy levels, their not experienced enough and the sex is probably awful. 16 year old thots tho I'm cool with that. They'll fuck your brains out and thank you for it.
The fuck?

You're the only one that gave a reasonable, not moronic, response so that's why I decided to reply again in the first place. The "maturedness" is determined by the penal code. And most penal codes in Europe decide that when they define the word "child" as someone below the age of 13.

I know this seems like it's all sorts of wrong and that the people that came up with these laws are degenerates. But I assure you psychologists and doctors have advised cabinets when these laws were written.
Then I guess the "psychologists" and "doctors" who wrote those laws are filled with degenerates too.

And whats the the autistic tier of condescension in your posts? Are you Destiny himself? :thinking:
 
Ok so you exceptional individuals don't actually do any research.
You kinda just spout shit that seems reasonable to you and hope it's right.

UK - as long as the person is not in a position of authority(police officer, teacher, counselor) they can fuck a 16 year old.

Germany - as long as person is not over the age of 21 they can have sex with a 14 year old.(This is somewhat like what you had in mind, except to a much larger age gap)

Austria, Bulgaria, Estonia, Hungary, Italy, Montengro, Portugal
- As long as you're not in a position of authority an adult can have sex with a 14 year old.

There's way more laws like this but I couldn't be bothered to go through all of them. Most countries have the same thing 15-16 and as long as they're not in a position of power.

Source - Wikipedia
If you select a country underneath the text you will see a link to that country's penal code.

As to my preference. I could never fuck a 14 year old. I'm 22, the age difference is getting to creepy levels, their not experienced enough and the sex is probably awful. 16 year old thots tho I'm cool with that. They'll fuck your brains out and thank you for it.



You're the only one that gave a reasonable, not moronic, response so that's why I decided to reply again in the first place. The "maturedness" is determined by the penal code. And most penal codes in Europe decide that when they define the word "child" as someone below the age of 13.

I know this seems like it's all sorts of wrong and that the people that came up with these laws are degenerates. But I assure you psychologists and doctors have advised cabinets when these laws were written.
>Ok so you exceptional individuals don't actually do any research.
>Source - Wikipedia
>As to my preference. I could never fuck a 14 year old. I'm 22, the age difference is getting to creepy levels, their not experienced enough and the sex is probably awful. 16 year old thots tho I'm cool with that. They'll fuck your brains out and thank you for it.


Thanks for giving me a reason to pay attention to this thread again.
 
The fuck?


Then I guess the "psychologists" and "doctors" who wrote those laws are filled with degenerates too.

And whats the the autistic tier of condescension in your posts? Are you Destiny himself? :thinking:

How dense do you have to be to think that you know better than people who have spent probably 8-10 years of their adult life studying this field?

I'm condescending because I was contradicted by people that have not done any research whatsoever. And I contradicted them with facts.

>Ok so you exceptional individuals don't actually do any research.
>Source - Wikipedia
>As to my preference. I could never fuck a 14 year old. I'm 22, the age difference is getting to creepy levels, their not experienced enough and the sex is probably awful. 16 year old thots tho I'm cool with that. They'll fuck your brains out and thank you for it.


Thanks for giving me a reason to pay attention to this thread again.

A link to every single country's penal code is listed next to every piece of data on that Wikipedia page. That page is backed by 160 sources. But go on be autistic. I noticed that seems to be the trend around here.

Not actually giving shit what's right or wrong but you yourself being right.
 

Nothing, in the entirety of your post, actually disproves this:

Yes, because they're not "matured" by any meaningful metric dude. The legal status of an act does not in any way reflect upon the morality of it, and that aside the main reason for the legal age of consent in such countries to be so low is so that people of that age can fuck each other and not get in trouble for it.

and if you need me to explain why, I'd be glad to.
 
Nothing, in the entirety of your post, actually disproves this:



and if you need me to explain why, I'd be glad to.

But who are we to deem what's moral and what isn't?
The fact of the matter is, legally speaking, having sex with a 16 year old as an adult does not make you a pedophile in most European nations.

Age isn't arbitrary. And there's absolutely no point in arguing about morality. I'm sure someone in here will argue having sex with Piper Perri is incredibly immoral. I'm sure there's people who will argue sex before marriage is immoral and having sex for any other reason than giving birth is immoral.

My point is morality is arbitrary. Morality is whatever you want it to be therefore it's an absolutely pointless subject of discussion.
 
In what world do 16 year old thots have that much experience to “fuck your brain out”?

18 year old thots THAT I can believe and confirm

The girl that I knew was from a broken family and had an older sister. I didn't know her for very long.

I just checked her facebook, she appears to be happily married and has a kid. Look at that... some stories do have a good ending.
 
But who are we to deem what's moral and what isn't?
The fact of the matter is, legally speaking, having sex with a 16 year old as an adult does not make you a pedophile in most European nations.

That doesn't change the fact that it does, in fact, still make you one.

Age isn't arbitrary. And there's absolutely no point in arguing about morality. I'm sure someone in here will argue having sex with Piper Perri is incredibly immoral. I'm sure there's people who will argue sex before marriage is immoral and having sex for any other reason than giving birth is immoral.

This is a non-starter because you're trying to conflate the fact that morality is subjective and age isn't, and the point of the current topic is the morality of having sex with someone who is a teenager, with the idea that it's inherently as absurd as other subjective topics that are less reasonable like that sex before marriage or sex for pleasure are immoral. What you're doing here is an unfair comparison.

My point is morality is arbitrary. Morality is whatever you want it to be therefore it's an absolutely pointless subject of discussion.

No, it isn't a pointless subject of discussion considering that we're not talking about something that has absolutely no benefit to being discussed, which is the fact that people who are that young are easily manipulated and vulnerable to sexually predatory people who are older than them. They're not fully matured, not mentally nor physically, despite whatever claims you can dredge up from pedophile-apologist psychiatrists. The consensus has been that they aren't for quite a while now.
 
But who are we to deem what's moral and what isn't?
The fact of the matter is, legally speaking, having sex with a 16 year old as an adult does not make you a pedophile in most European nations.

Age isn't arbitrary. And there's absolutely no point in arguing about morality. I'm sure someone in here will argue having sex with Piper Perri is incredibly immoral. I'm sure there's people who will argue sex before marriage is immoral and having sex for any other reason than giving birth is immoral.

My point is morality is arbitrary. Morality is whatever you want it to be therefore it's an absolutely pointless subject of discussion.
I take back what I said. You're not Destiny, your JF :story:
 
That doesn't change the fact that it does, in fact, still make you one.

That's just like... an opinion man. You're entitled to yours just like everyone else is entitled to theirs.

This is a non-starter because you're trying to conflate the fact that morality is subjective and age isn't, and the point of the current topic is the morality of having sex with someone who is a teenager, with the idea that it's inherently as absurd as other subjective topics that are less reasonable like that sex before marriage or sex for pleasure are immoral. What you're doing here is an unfair comparison.
But where is that line that makes this an unfair comparison? Assume we were ragheads and we were having this discussion in the middle east. Suddenly any woman showing her ankles is immoral and degenerate.

It seems like you're drawing the line at the age of 18. Which is more or less in line with US Law, because you probably live there and your parents passed down their values and morals onto you. If you can't catch yourself doing this, and can't take a look at a subject like this from an unbiased point of view we're not gonna get anywhere.

which is the fact that people who are that young are easily manipulated and vulnerable to sexually predatory people who are older than them. They're not fully matured, not mentally nor physically
Oh man this was actually going pretty well until you went for the strawman. Come on.

Why do we have to bring in external factors that are not relevant to this discussion? We are talking consensual sex between an adult man and a 16 year old woman, correct?
What you're doing is granulating the issue with statements such as "but what if?"

If you actually look at that wikipedia page you'll see a lot of countries have laws in place in that case of that. In the case of manipulation and sexual coercion. It's legal but if the minor ever comes forward and says she felt like she was taken advantage of the man can always be prosecuted.

What's really annoying is that you moved the goalpost from "is it moral to have sex with a minor" to "but what if the minor is manipulated into it".

I take back what I said. You're not Destiny, your JF :story:

Ok that was actually funny.

For the record, in most European countries JF would've been prosecuted for taking advantage of a mentally deficient person. She was a minor too wasn't she? He would've gotten at least 5 years in prison. You can actually get prosecuted for that even if they're an adult.
 
That's just like... an opinion man. You're entitled to yours just like everyone else is entitled to theirs.

No, it really isn't. It's still having sex with what society would consider someone who isn't mature - a child.

But where is that line that makes this an unfair comparison? Assume we were ragheads and we were having this discussion in the middle east. Suddenly any woman showing her ankles is immoral and degenerate.

It seems like you're drawing the line at the age of 18. Which is more or less in line with US Law, because you probably live there and your parents passed down their values and morals onto you. If you can't catch yourself doing this, and can't take a look at a subject like this from an unbiased point of view we're not gonna get anywhere.

Trying not to be rude here but if I must I'll go looking for corroborating evidence for my point. Also, while I'm not "drawing the line" at eighteen, it's approximately around that age that a lot of people become fully capable of being a rational actor when it comes to the topic of sex. If it were me I'd actually move the age of consent closer to twenty and instead have "Romeo & Juliet laws". Which on that topic it's rather difficult to just change laws willy-nilly considering both that the wheels of any government tend to grind slowly and a "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality that, while on this specific topic is unfortunately common, I can understand and appreciate.

Oh man this was actually going pretty well until you went for the strawman. Come on.

Why do we have to bring in external factors that are not relevant to this discussion? We are talking consensual sex between an adult man and a 16 year old woman, correct?
What you're doing is granulating the issue with statements such as "but what if?"

If you actually look at that wikipedia page you'll see a lot of countries have laws in place in that case of that. In the case of manipulation and sexual coercion. It's legal but if the minor ever comes forward and says she felt like she was taken advantage of the man can always be prosecuted.

Manipulation does not necessarily mean the manipulator is leveraging institutional power. This fact has some crossover with another of Destiny's favorite talking points, incest. Just like an incestual "relationship", the familiarity and trust that being a member of someone's family is manipulative psychologically, even if it isn't intentional. The same is with older men/women, the very fact that they are older and more knowledgeable when it comes to how to get someone to have sex makes them predatory, and if they are significantly older they are courting someone who is naive, inexperienced, and not fully mature - does that not constitute a form of power over someone to you?

What's really annoying is that you moved the goalpost from "is it moral to have sex with a minor" to "but what if the minor is manipulated into it".

I didn't move the goalpost, considering I still believe it's immoral to have sex with someone who isn't fully mature and capable of giving consent, and by the very definition someone who is older would have more experience in the ability to convince someone at around that age to have sex with them, inherently being manipulative.
 
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