Goonclown Steven Bonnell II / Destiny / Destiny.gg - Emotionally Unstable Manchild, Creeps on Teenagers, Incest Supporter, Degenerate Foot Sniffer, Cum Felcher, Gooner

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I didn't move the goalpost, considering I still believe it's immoral to have sex with someone who isn't fully mature and capable of giving consent, and by the very definition someone who is older would have more experience in the ability to convince someone at around that age to have sex with them, inherently being manipulative.

Doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists who have all been part of making these laws in Europe have concluded that either 14-15 or 16 is mature enough to have consensual sexual relationships with adults.

They have deemed that most people between the age of 1-15 are children and that most people who are 16 are mature. It's the same reason as to why some 14-15-16 year olds can be tried as an adult in a court of law.

I don't know how many 16 year olds you have spoken to but they're pretty fucking mature man. Like this isn't a child. I'm not gonna tell you to sit around a high school and start talking to 16 year olds but like... if you ever had a younger sister or cousin and you spoke to her and her friends when they were 16 you would understand this issue much better.

Considering the website we're posting on it's safe to say a majority of us grew up posting on image boards and being social outcasts. When I was 16 I was playing World of Warcraft from the time I got home till I went to bed. But like... the 16 year old girls in my class were having sex. Just because we weren't matured at that age doesn't mean they aren't. Not to mention women go through puberty waaay before men.

I personally don't have the expertise to say when child matures and is ready to have sex. So I'm gonna refer to the experts. And judging by their years of expertise and work in this field I would say it is safe to trust them.

Oh I don't even know why I'm addressing this but... if say 1 country said it was okay for 15 year olds while every other country said it was 18 then yes there would be a reason to be suspicious of that country and how it reached that conclusion. But when a conglomeration of governments that rule over a billion people come to the same conclusion it's hard to make the argument that a cabal of pedo psychiatrists and psychologists are behind this.
 
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Doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists who have all been part of making these laws in Europe have concluded that either 14-15 or 16 is mature enough to have consensual sexual relationships with adults.

They have deemed that someone between the age of 1-15 is a child and that someone who is 16 is mature. It's the same reason as to why some 14-15-16 year olds can be tried as an adult in a court of law.

I don't know how many 16 year olds you have spoken to but they're pretty fucking mature man. Like this isn't a child. I'm not gonna tell you to sit around a high school and start talking to 16 year olds but like... if you ever had a younger sister or cousin and you spoke to her and her friends when they were 16 you would understand this issue much better.

Considering the website we're posting on it's safe to say a majority of us grew up posting on image boards and being social outcasts. When I was 16 I was playing World of Warcraft from the time I got home till I went to bed. But like... the 16 year old girls in my class were having sex. Just because we weren't matured at that age doesn't mean they aren't. Not to mention women go through puberty waaay before men.

I personally don't have the expertise to say when child matures and is ready to have sex. So I'm gonna refer to the experts. And judging by their years of expertise and work in this field I would say it is safe to trust them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_lobe

The function of the frontal lobe involves the ability to project future consequences resulting from current actions, the choice between good and bad actions (or better and best) (also known as conscience), the override and suppression of socially unacceptable responses, and the determination of similarities and differences between things or events.

In humans, the frontal lobe reaches full maturity around the late 20s,[2] marking the cognitive maturity associated with adulthood.

Oh I don't even know why I'm addressing this but... if say 1 country said it was okay for 15 year olds while every other country said it was 18 then yes there would be a reason to be suspicious of that country and how it reached that conclusion. But when a conglomeration of governments that rule over a billion people come to the same conclusion it's hard to make the argument that a cabal of pedo psychiatrists and psychologists are behind this.

Again, you're trying to conflate the fact that it's mostly for other people of that age with the idea that it's just a minimum water-mark for someone who's legally able to fuck.
 
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How dense do you have to be to think that you know better than people who have spent probably 8-10 years of their adult life studying this field?
The guy who socked a dude over the head with a bike lock and then hid behind a bunch of women was a professor of ethics, the people who divided the pencil test (used in South Africa to determine wether someone was white or not (usually reserved for coloreds)) got the go ahead from people with doctorates. Could go on forever but I'm sure you've gleaned my point

My point is morality is arbitrary. Morality is whatever you want it to be therefore it's an absolutely pointless subject of discussion.
It may be "arbitrary" but so are the rest of our normative system, but that doesn't make them not worth discussing and evaluating

The girl that I knew was from a broken family and had an older sister. I didn't know her for very long.

I just checked her facebook, she appears to be happily married and has a kid.
I knew a 16 year old girl who ran away from home because she got into a relationship with some guy in his late twenties.She left home and with no education her job prospects were poor; she ended up getting involved in some shady brothel and wound up burnt alive in a car in some ditch next to the highway.

This story could be entirely false, or not, the point is anecdotal evidence in support of a claim is pointless.

An adult shouldn't be able to have a relationship (especially sexual) with someone who hasn't even finished high school. At that stage in your life you can't support yourself and your ability to make rational decisions isn't at its best.

You mention laws being made by
scientists and doctors (thus validating them?) but then you also bring up the weird irony that you can enlist in the army before you can legally consume alcohol, which is absolutely right but also serves to undermine your point in the rationality of certain laws.

You're style of argumentation is incredibly obnoxious, my dude.
 
It's ok dude. You want to fuck 16 year olds. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery. We support you.
 
holy shit you guys are seriously arguing about fucking teenagers in a thread about me, this is hilarious

If this is really you can you talk to metokur again? Not debate just convo, talk about IBS, Ice and Sargon.
 
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The manlet has bigger balls than half the skeptic community but unfortunately a manlet is still a manlet. So Destiny do you plan to lecture us on the ethics of CP?
 
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