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[WULULULULU]

Funny to hear coming from the games that made lootboxes acceptable on PC in the first place. However there are smidgets of sence in these words. You can actually convert cosmetics into money and buy yourself some games, or even cash out through some shady services. I remember buying CS:GO for 2.5 bux, playing sporadically for ~2 weeks and getting my money back from selling dropped cosmetics on marketplace.

Games are meant to have fun, not be a sporadic job. If you wanna earn while having fun, that is where cryptocurrency exists. Not to mention TF2 has a boatload of autists that have some form of attachment to a bunch of pixels that can even be recreated in Gmod.

 

[The Anarki Main]

I remember when people would spend $100 on those virtual engagement rings in order to make dumb jokes in the midst of pubs.

One did make me laugh though. The entire TF2 community has accepted that "The game is dead." Congratulations!

there was a really funny one i saw ingame once. if i find the old screencap of it i'll post it here

 

[Phys]

Creators.tf is a safe haven for trannies and quite dead. Just a reminder to not play on their servers. Also Tyler McWigger is a fag.

10 months ago:
https://old.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/hfgzcr/further_information_on_why_the_creatorstf_servers/ (archive)



https://jonathan.tf/?p=93 (archive)



Tyler getting upset at a creators.tf mod because of the word "tranny" and wanting to vote said mod off the team for saying it.

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Well, creators.tf (C.TF) is dead in the water. The game server plugins were open sourced a few weeks ago, likely in (very late) response to staff going rogue and leaking the plugins themselves as a result of the Tyler McVicker drama last year (quoted above) or because the project is pretty much a sinking ship. C.TF is also now registered as a non-profit company in the UK.

The reason for the decline of the network is a maze. In addition to what I documented in above quoted post, there's been 4chan threads, now deleted Google docs, Vocaroos etc. It's just too much to get into for something so insignificant in today's terms from so long time ago already. I put off making this thread for way too long.

Ok, back to 2020. Quick rundown on this leak: It happened on the clear web on a domain that the rogue ex-staff hi-jacked from the team. It was initially intended as a redirect for the actual website named creator.tf (archive) in case of some tard misspelling the domain. From what I can deduce the website was hosted on Github Pages and was taken down with an abuse report from C.TF itself quoted below. The website also linked to Tyler's thread here on KF. I would assume that the ownership of the domain is transferred to C.TF now as the redirect works as normal.

Hi - I can not find any evidence of this content on my systems. This website has been pointing to external services for a few months now, not using OVH hosting service.
This person has been harassing/slandering me and my colleagues for 6 months now and I would appreciate if there would be no further communication from anyone affiliated with their organisation.
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Le mardi, 2 février 2021 20:19, ticket@abuse.ovh.net a écrit : Hello,
The hosting of an abusive content (Copyright) on your shared hosting creator[.]tf has been reported to or noticed by our Abuse Team.
Technical details (such as URLs) showing the aforementioned problem follow :
-- start of the technical details -- --- about --- hxxpx : / /creator [.] tf/
Hello, my name is Daniel.
I am the project lead of hxxpx : / /Creators.TF - a community driven project, purpose of which is to create new content for the online multiplayer game - Team Fortress 2. And a while ago we discovered an issue, that we would be grateful if you help us resolve.
Our website is accessible through our main domain: creators.tf. Our visitors use it to check the news in our blog, manage their virtual item inventory and manage their quests and tasks that they may complete on our game servers.
We value the trust of our users, and that's why we try to be as transparent with our users as possible. We do not generate any revenue from the site itself, all the content on the site is free of charge for every user. We only rely on our player's donations, which help us cover server costs for our website and servers.
What is the issue?
Around a year ago a former staff member registered an alias for our website - "hxxp : / /creator [.] tf" using the OVH domain registrar. This domain's purpose initially was to help users reach the main site, even if they type the name of the original domain incorrectly. This staff member was later removed from the team for hateful behaviour towards other staff members and our users. However, they refused to transfer ownership of the domain back to us, and decided to keep it.
This domain has now been used to host misinformation, illegal content, and content that was maliciously posted to the public. Such as, dumps of our core database, source code of our website, and game server plugins. This raised a lot of privacy issues and concerns, that despite them all being addressed and resolved appropriately, still are damaging to us and our users' trust.
Currently, this domain is hosting private information as well as transphobic and hateful content towards one of our staff team members, containing their real life images used without their consent. This issue still persists to this day and this content is still accessible from this domain name. This has resulted in several pernicious members of this domain to go after this said staff member by obtaining their full real name, address, and prank calling and threatening them and their parents.
We respect the trust of our users as well as the privacy of our staff members, so we please ask you to help us stop the spread of this illegal content and misinformation by terminating this domain's activity immediately.
Best Regards, Daniel. Creators.TF Team
// Current Site
hxxpx : / /creator [.] tf // Oct 30 2020 hxxpx : / /web.archive.org/web/20201103225336/hxxpx : / /creator [.] tf/ Category: copyright --- Forwarded email(s) ---
-- end of the technical details --
Your should investigate and fix this problem, as it constitutes a violation to our terms of service.
Please answer to this e-mail indicating which measures you've taken to stop the abusive behaviour.
Cordially,
The OVHcloud Abuse team.

On the website, someone from the staff team went on to leak Discord chat logs, a server cost spreadsheet (archive), server plugins, the creators.tf website source code and the staff team's Google Drive. According to the spreadsheet, in the first half of 2020 Jonathan (the server sysadmin at the time who quit) paid the server hosting out of his own pocket at a loss of almost $500 as he didn't receive the Patreon funds for the time. It's unclear if he ever received the money at the time.

Most of the leaks are available on either Wayback Machine or the Github account linked to the leak.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cobZmHkGc8RTE0h8FmucfasivD4tiHmI/view - Google Drive leak
https://github.com/CreatorTF/creators.tf-website - Leaked website source code
https://github.com/CreatorTF/creators.tf-gameservers - Leaked server plugins (compiled?)
https://github.com/CreatorsTF/gameservers - Official server plugin source code repo

 

[WULULULULU]

Well, creators.tf (C.TF) is dead in the water. The game server plugins were open sourced a few weeks ago, likely in (very late) response to staff going rogue and leaking the plugins themselves as a result of the Tyler McVicker drama last year (quoted above) or because the project is pretty much a sinking ship. C.TF is also now registered as a non-profit company in the UK.

The reason for the decline of the network is a maze. In addition to what I documented in above quoted post, there's been 4chan threads, now deleted Google docs, Vocaroos etc. It's just too much to get into for something so insignificant in today's terms from so long time ago already. I put off making this thread for way too long.

Ok, back to 2020. Quick rundown on this leak: It happened on the clear web on a domain that the rogue ex-staff hi-jacked from the team. It was initially intended as a redirect for the actual website named creator.tf (archive) in case of some tard misspelling the domain. From what I can deduce the website was hosted on Github Pages and was taken down with an abuse report from C.TF itself quoted below. The website also linked to Tyler's thread here on KF. I would assume that the ownership of the domain is transferred to C.TF now as the redirect works as normal.



On the website, someone from the staff team went on to leak Discord chat logs, a server cost spreadsheet (archive), server plugins, the creators.tf website source code and the staff team's Google Drive. According to the spreadsheet, in the first half of 2020 Jonathan (the server sysadmin at the time who quit) paid the server hosting out of his own pocket at a loss of almost $500 as he didn't receive the Patreon funds for the time. It's unclear if he ever received the money at the time.

Most of the leaks are available on either Wayback Machine or the Github account linked to the leak.

And nothing of value was lost.

Community Updates are not the answer my friend. It has to be with coordination with the actual devs, otherwise you get this.

 

[privateemails]

C.TF is also now registered as a non-profit company in the UK.

There they go promising to release financial records "soon" again. It's been a priority of theirs since January of 2020 according to one of the former staff. I wonder if they'll even show anything from when the guy was paying out of pocket.

 

[The handsome tard]

Man, the memories I have from this game. All those late nights staying up, playing with your friends on that specific server where everyone knew each other, watching your favorite TF2tubers and learning new strategies, maps and eagerly waiting for new updates. Good times.

It was nice playing when younger, but seeing all that yiff, furry shit, porn, anime and hentai in everyone's spray tags and custom servers probably didn't help growing up. But I don't care TF2, I still love you.

TF2 is the only game (the only other thing is my recording software) I never uninstall from my Stream library...legit, with all its flaws, there is this purity and fun in the game that never gets old and keeps me engaged through all these years. Its just something about source games that have this perfection to them...maybe it was a lightning in a bottle team equivalent, having creativity and tech on their side.

I legit dont want a sequel to this game, only more content and enhancements.

 

[seri0us]

TF2 is the only game (the only other thing is my recording software) I never uninstall from my Stream library

@The handsome tard Why would you install recording software from Steam?

 

[The handsome tard]

@The handsome tard Why would you install recording software from Steam?

Because I got a particularly good one that suits my needs during a very good sale. Thats it.

 

[privateemails]

Zeesastrous is a troon that made a fairly popular HUD called ZeesHUD. The HUD features a a scrolling list of donators on the main menu which many people have found workarounds to get rid of. Having found out about these workarounds, Zee went into a fit of rage and threatened to update his HUD with the capabilities to brick the games of anyone who removes the list.

Archive of the Reddit thread

This isn't the first time Zee has been called out on Reddit. Just a month ago, he was claiming that bots were using in game sprays to save gore and CP to everyone's computers (despite the fact that Valve disabled spray sharing on their servers years ago).

Oh, and he sent nudes to multiple minors, which he claimed was for "body positivity reasons" and "had consent" from one. Unfortunately, the thread calling him out was deleted by mods at the request of Zee. Zee has gone private on Twitter since being called out again.

Might be worthy of his own thread at this point

 

[RSLUG30]

on the creators.tf stuff, i really do think that they're trying to sail a sinking ship right now as their servers only seem to be peaking at about 20 members in the most ideal times of day and the week. looking at their serverlist as i'm writing this, i only see a single person online in their entire network of 27 servers, merely 5 days after releasing a big content update for their platform.
it's obvious that whatever they're producing is not what the community wants out of TF2, but they don't see it that way, they refuse to see it that way, obviously the TF2 community just doesn't know what's good for them! for example, they changed that "players online" counter to a "monthly players" counter to make it seem like they actually receive a lot of players on their network and disguise the fact that few give a shit about their updates anymore.

the entire team seems to get into monthly fights over nothing and splinter down further and further as time goes on, this latest restructuring and change of management is just another attempt to wrangle the team of horny and confused teens who think they can be the next valve. it's not going to work and i guarantee you that they'll have a tearful shutdown by early next year, they will of course try to blame the community for not gobbling up their half-baked buggy shit but at that point they'll have fallen so far into obscurity that nobody will care.

think of it this way, if the community still prefers to play on bot ridden hellscapes in stock casual matchmaking and not your "safe enhanced servers", that really says something about the quality and efficacy of the service you provide.

 

[privateemails]

Speaking of community servers, Casual.tf has shut down. Or at least one of their owners is trying to shut it down before their planned date.

(I have no idea what the situation is, I just got these photos from /tf2g/)

These servers were reminiscent of pre-MYM community servers. Everything was decided by server votes, so there were no power tripping mods or no no words unless majority of the server disagrees(rarely the case, I've seen troons bullied there often). A real fucking shame to see them go.

 

[RSLUG30]

Speaking of community servers, Casual.tf has shut down. Or at least one of their owners is trying to shut it down before their planned date.
-snip-
These servers were reminiscent of pre-MYM community servers. Everything was decided by server votes, so there were no power tripping mods or no no words unless majority of the server disagrees(rarely the case, I've seen troons bullied there often). A real fucking shame to see them go.

unfortunately they were basically silenced by the creators.tf circlejerk, skial muscling in to keep their throne, and faceit desperately trying to remain relevant with their whole 2 players and solarlight.
i loved their servers because they also just straight up offered plain vanilla servers to play on; no changed gamerules, no class limits, no free item plugins, it was just tf2 without the skids. sure it wasn't the most populated thing out there, but you'd usually see one or two servers per region get filled in at peak time.

back to skial purgatory for me i guess.

 

[Vermin God]

Speaking of community servers, Casual.tf has shut down. Or at least one of their owners is trying to shut it down before their planned date.

(I have no idea what the situation is, I just got these photos from /tf2g/)


These servers were reminiscent of pre-MYM community servers. Everything was decided by server votes, so there were no power tripping mods or no no words unless majority of the server disagrees(rarely the case, I've seen troons bullied there often). A real fucking shame to see them go.

Fortunately it seems like Radiusculling (one of the cofounders) is going to host a similar set of servers under a different name:

 

[XMassAllYearRound]

The situation on casual.tf as I understand it:
The servers are run by two people RadiusCulling and Naleksuh, on September 5 Naleksuh used the official account (Which is managed by him as well as the servers) to pre-emptively tell people he was thinking about closing down the servers

The idea was brought up due to a private conversation between Radius and Naleksuh (Already posted by @privateemails) where Radius admitted to selling drugs and Naleksuh not wanting anything to do with it. Naleksuh then closed the servers without telling Radius first and only informed him via DM after he had done so, which Radius proceeded to leak to the entire server (Also already posted). The result of this was Naleksuh throwing a tantrum and using casual.tf official twitter to leak their steam conversation.

He then went on a tirade about people criticizing him for doing this

Then picking up a fight with wamo of all people

(DM's leaked by Wamo, I've attached the google drive doc linked, it's a rather boring read of how Wamo first snubbed and then tried and failed miserably to leech off casual.tf)

And finally just replying to everything with "Who cares, servers are gone anyways lol".

Overall a sad way to go, I too enjoyed the servers greatly.

 

[Unconcerned Drifter]

https://teamwork.tf/community/statistics

The game is nowhere near as alive as the steam player count would have you believe

Okay the difference is that Steam counts unique players for an hour, where teamwork tf show realtime players.
Steam does it this way because it counts players for all games on steam, i think.

 

[RSLUG30]

the mods TF2Classic and OpenFortress have been temporarily closed by Valve request.
[OpenFortress Archive] [TF2Classic Archive]


the fact that valve themselves ordered this and it only being temporary has spawned countless rumors in the games community, such as valve handing the game over to these community teams (pff), valve moving them over to the steam platform (most likely), or a new update that makes use of assets from these mods (plausible given how much they rely on the workshop).
both mod teams have claimed that this is nothing to worry about and that "something big/exciting" is coming.

 

[kingripperass]

I remember when people would spend $100 on those virtual engagement rings in order to make dumb jokes in the midst of pubs.

One did make me laugh though. The entire TF2 community has accepted that "The game is dead." Congratulations!

imo, stuff like this is funnier

r/tf2 - Somebody spent $100 to make a tasteless, racist joke.

6 votes and 29 comments so far on Reddit

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[Nikes_JustDoIt]

the mods TF2Classic and OpenFortress have been temporarily closed by Valve request.
[OpenFortress Archive] [TF2Classic Archive]
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the fact that valve themselves ordered this and it only being temporary has spawned countless rumors in the games community, such as valve handing the game over to these community teams (pff), valve moving them over to the steam platform (most likely), or a new update that makes use of assets from these mods (plausible given how much they rely on the workshop).
both mod teams have claimed that this is nothing to worry about and that "something big/exciting" is coming.

I really hope that Valve does not give the Tf2 to the community, with the source leak and seeing the degenerate shit that some of the community is making on the workshop / mods its gonna ruin the game beyond the bots.

 

[RSLUG30]

I really hope that Valve does not give the Tf2 to the community, with the source leak and seeing the degenerate shit that some of the community is making on the workshop / mods its gonna ruin the game beyond the bots.

couldn't have said it better myself, every community project made for TF2 seems to always have an inherent fog of drama and infighting, typically originating from the one tranny that somehow worms their way into the team. the invasion update, creators.tf, and the HiGPS balance mod are all great examples as to why making TF2 completely community ran with little valve intervention is a terrible idea.
(why the fuck does demoman have full airblast resistance against pyros in that mod???)

if you need a refresher on the invasion update drama, the update was delayed due to revenue share fighting as one team decided to give themselves significantly more than anyone else and also because the webpage for the update wasn't even close to completion by the time the actual update was ready. valve had to eventually step in and take over revenue shares for them. a lot of this has unfortunately been lost when facepunch was killed, but there's probably an archive of that thread still floating around.

 

[kingripperass]

Speaking of the coomunity does anyone know the validity of Team Comtress 2?
In it's current state it's a community bug "fixed" mod of TF2, but based on the outdated client side source code iirc that retards hope Valve will eventually pickup and merge into actual TF2.
Genuinely curious how bad or good this actually is.

GitHub - mastercomfig/team-comtress-2: Team Fortress 2, but with a lot of fixes, QoL improvements and performance optimizations!

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